OT: Brian May Furious Over MJ Demos on YouTube

[StoneCold]

Queen is one of them most well known bands around the world. The run of albums they had from A Night at the Opera through The Game was amazing. There wasn't a single bad song on those albums. Leppard on the other hand hasn't made an album that can say that.

Damn straight. DL was great in the 80's, hit n miss in the 90's and doing covers in the 00's.

Freddie's been gone almost 20 years and their music lives on.

some killer cuts

KYA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JofwEB9g1zg

KQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMz-wi50ACU

[youkeepmewaiting]

I think because Queens good songs were... great...it makes up for the million shoddy ones.


The best Mercury song ever ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFAHiTVRvnU

[Red13JoePa]

BRIAN MAY FURIOUS OVER FREDDIE MERCURY AND MICHAEL JACKSON DEMOS ON YOU TUBE

Shut up, May.
No one cares

[StoneCold]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRE0slFf4Zg

[strangegrey]

I'll take Def Leppard FTW.

Def Leppard's catalog is much better than Queen's.

Wow. crystal meth and crack abuse can destroy whole families....seek help, Dan...

[Behshad]

BRIAN MAY FURIOUS OVER FREDDIE MERCURY AND MICHAEL JACKSON DEMOS ON YOU TUBE

Shut up, May.
No one cares

Whoa! That better have shut him up, cause its rarely you see RedJoepa get mad at someone and tell em to shut up !

[Glenn]

Why Def Leppard can even be used in the same conversation with Queen is mind boggling.


Freddie is 100 times the vocalist and front man than Joe could ever be.


Look, I like Lep...I like alot of their early stuff and really like a lot of their album cuts (non singles)

But Queen is in an a whole other league.

But like Andrew said, some folks get Queen, some don't.

One of the most original bands ever.

[Red13JoePa]

BRIAN MAY FURIOUS OVER FREDDIE MERCURY AND MICHAEL JACKSON DEMOS ON YOU TUBE

Shut up, May.
No one cares

Whoa! That better have shut him up, cause its rarely you see RedJoepa get mad at someone and tell em to shut up !

Rarely moved to post anymore but what a sanctimonious windbag.

[Behshad]

BRIAN MAY FURIOUS OVER FREDDIE MERCURY AND MICHAEL JACKSON DEMOS ON YOU TUBE

Shut up, May.
No one cares

Whoa! That better have shut him up, cause its rarely you see RedJoepa get mad at someone and tell em to shut up !

Rarely moved to post anymore but what a sanctimonious windbag.

Glad I got you moved enough to post again just dont call me a sanctimonious windbag again, k?

[strangegrey]

Why Def Leppard can even be used in the same conversation with Queen is mind boggling.


Freddie is 100 times the vocalist and front man than Joe could ever be.


Look, I like Lep...I like alot of their early stuff and really like a lot of their album cuts (non singles)

But Queen is in an a whole other league.

But like Andrew said, some folks get Queen, some don't.

One of the most original bands ever.

If Queen doesn't exist, Def Leppard doesn't either....and I think Joe Elliott will be the first to say such a thing.

I'm not going to dis the Leppers their due either....but to say that Def Leppard has a better catalog than Queen is just fucking lunacy.....Def Leppard had 2 great albums in their career...and a whole lot of bad ones.

Queen has an entire career of great albums. It's a difference. a big one.


Queen is one of those generational spanning rock groups. They had achieved monumental status in the 70s, 80s and 90s....and maintained that status with the help of Paul Rogers in this past decade.


Def Leppard, love em or not, never escaped the stigma of the 80s. They were hated in the 90s, and now, they're desperately trying to reinvent themselves as a 70s band. Kinda sad. When you think of someone trying to reinvent themselves, doing so with eyes to the past and not future, is always a recipe for failure...

[Red13JoePa]

BRIAN MAY FURIOUS OVER FREDDIE MERCURY AND MICHAEL JACKSON DEMOS ON YOU TUBE

Shut up, May.
No one cares

Whoa! That better have shut him up, cause its rarely you see RedJoepa get mad at someone and tell em to shut up !

Rarely moved to post anymore but what a sanctimonious windbag.

Glad I got you moved enough to post again just dont call me a sanctimonious windbag again, k?

Final post of the day.
When I boot I'm coming back as the left buckle on the bottom of your av's bikini.

[Duncan]

Why Def Leppard can even be used in the same conversation with Queen is mind boggling.


Freddie is 100 times the vocalist and front man than Joe could ever be.


Look, I like Lep...I like alot of their early stuff and really like a lot of their album cuts (non singles)

But Queen is in an a whole other league.

But like Andrew said, some folks get Queen, some don't.

One of the most original bands ever.

To an extent, but a band that ran out of steam in my opinion. C'mon, I Want it All, Breakthrough et al... total crap. This might have been a better argument if I wasn't playing Faster Pussycat as i write this.

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Now playing: Faster Pussycat - Nonstop To Nowhere

[JeremyP]

To an extent, but a band that ran out of steam in my opinion. C'mon, I Want it All, Breakthrough et al... total crap. This might have been a better argument if I wasn't playing Faster Pussycat as i write this.

I don't know how anyone could think "I Want It All" is crap. Brian's guitar playing is especially awesome.

[Duncan]

To an extent, but a band that ran out of steam in my opinion. C'mon, I Want it All, Breakthrough et al... total crap. This might have been a better argument if I wasn't playing Faster Pussycat as i write this.

I don't know how anyone could think "I Want It All" is crap. Brian's guitar playing is especially awesome.

No one who can actually hear can possibly think, in terms of songwriting, that this is a patch on previous Queen songs.The fact that May burns it up all over the song, doesn't hide the fact that it is a crap song. If anyone else had released it it would have died a death. Now shut the fuck up and put Seven Seas of Rhye on.

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Now playing: Queen - Seven Seas Of Rhye

[JeremyP]

To an extent, but a band that ran out of steam in my opinion. C'mon, I Want it All, Breakthrough et al... total crap. This might have been a better argument if I wasn't playing Faster Pussycat as i write this.

I don't know how anyone could think "I Want It All" is crap. Brian's guitar playing is especially awesome.

No one who can actually hear can possibly think, in terms of songwriting, that this is a patch on previous Queen songs.The fact that May burns it up all over the song, doesn't hide the fact that it is a crap song. If anyone else had released it it would have died a death. Now shut the fuck up and put Seven Seas of Rhye on.

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Now playing: Queen - Seven Seas Of Rhye

Nah, that's one of my faves. I like all their albums though and there's only a couple of songs I skip out of the entire discography.

[Duncan]

To an extent, but a band that ran out of steam in my opinion. C'mon, I Want it All, Breakthrough et al... total crap. This might have been a better argument if I wasn't playing Faster Pussycat as i write this.

I don't know how anyone could think "I Want It All" is crap. Brian's guitar playing is especially awesome.

No one who can actually hear can possibly think, in terms of songwriting, that this is a patch on previous Queen songs.The fact that May burns it up all over the song, doesn't hide the fact that it is a crap song. If anyone else had released it it would have died a death. Now shut the fuck up and put Seven Seas of Rhye on.

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Now playing: Queen - Seven Seas Of Rhye

Nah, that's one of my faves. I like all their albums though and there's only a couple of songs I skip out of the entire discography.

Fair enough - I hear a band than ran out of ideas.

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Now playing: Steve Lukather - New World

[Carla777]

To an extent, but a band that ran out of steam in my opinion. C'mon, I Want it All, Breakthrough et al... total crap. This might have been a better argument if I wasn't playing Faster Pussycat as i write this.

I don't know how anyone could think "I Want It All" is crap. Brian's guitar playing is especially awesome.

No one who can actually hear can possibly think, in terms of songwriting, that this is a patch on previous Queen songs.The fact that May burns it up all over the song, doesn't hide the fact that it is a crap song. If anyone else had released it it would have died a death. Now shut the fuck up and put Seven Seas of Rhye on.

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Now playing: Queen - Seven Seas Of Rhye

really?....I'm no expert...but i love I want it All! is one of my favs from Queen
The guitar work is amazing..so energetic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv9mHY6greU

[Duncan]

To an extent, but a band that ran out of steam in my opinion. C'mon, I Want it All, Breakthrough et al... total crap. This might have been a better argument if I wasn't playing Faster Pussycat as i write this.

I don't know how anyone could think "I Want It All" is crap. Brian's guitar playing is especially awesome.

No one who can actually hear can possibly think, in terms of songwriting, that this is a patch on previous Queen songs.The fact that May burns it up all over the song, doesn't hide the fact that it is a crap song. If anyone else had released it it would have died a death. Now shut the fuck up and put Seven Seas of Rhye on.

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Now playing: Queen - Seven Seas Of Rhye

really?....I'm no expert...but i love I want it All! is one of my favs from Queen
The guitar work is amazing..so energetic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv9mHY6greU

I'm talking about creativity. Not great guitar playing. You either do not not know Queen's back catalogue or don't recognise ground breaking music. Queen were totally original. I Want It All is totally derivative.

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Now playing: Brother Firetribe - Runaways

[Carla777]

I'm talking about creativity. Not great guitar playing. You either do not not know Queen's back catalogue or don't recognise ground breaking music. Queen were totally original. I Want It All is totally derivative.

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Now playing: Brother Firetribe - Runaways

hey hey you ..I'm no expert like i say, i do know some older Queen albums not all (is not my fav band or anything).. maybe because of my heavy metal background i like more the heavy catchy sound that i think this song have..
I like the darn song deal with it Mister!!

[JeremyP]

I'm talking about creativity. Not great guitar playing. You either do not not know Queen's back catalogue or don't recognise ground breaking music. Queen were totally original. I Want It All is totally derivative.

Nice sweeping generalization there. "You either like the color red or you don't recognize colors!"

Opinions are fun.

[conversationpc]

If Queen doesn't exist, Def Leppard doesn't either....and I think Joe Elliott will be the first to say such a thing.

I'm not going to dis the Leppers their due either....but to say that Def Leppard has a better catalog than Queen is just fucking lunacy.....Def Leppard had 2 great albums in their career...and a whole lot of bad ones.

Queen has an entire career of great albums. It's a difference. a big one.


Queen is one of those generational spanning rock groups. They had achieved monumental status in the 70s, 80s and 90s....and maintained that status with the help of Paul Rogers in this past decade.


Def Leppard, love em or not, never escaped the stigma of the 80s. They were hated in the 90s, and now, they're desperately trying to reinvent themselves as a 70s band. Kinda sad. When you think of someone trying to reinvent themselves, doing so with eyes to the past and not future, is always a recipe for failure...

Agree with everything here except that DL had 3 great albums, "High 'N' Dry", "Pyromania", and "Hysteria".

[Duncan]

I'm talking about creativity. Not great guitar playing. You either do not not know Queen's back catalogue or don't recognise ground breaking music. Queen were totally original. I Want It All is totally derivative.

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Now playing: Brother Firetribe - Runaways

hey hey you ..I'm no expert like i say, i do know some older Queen albums not all (is not my fav band or anything).. maybe because of my heavy metal background i like more the heavy catchy sound that i think this song have..
I like the darn song deal with it Mister!!

...but your missing the point. I'm trying make a point about a band that was original and ground breaking that ended up turning out run of the mill rock songs. Can you tell me that I Want It All has any originalty? That's what I'm talking about. That is not say that I think they became a bad band, just not an original one. The truth is that they were a better live band than on record.

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Now playing: Brother Firetribe - Out of My Head

[Carla777]

Agree with everything here except that DL had 3 great albums, "High 'N' Dry", "Pyromania", and "Hysteria".

I like On through the Night too, is different very NWOBHM..i love that!

[Duncan]

I'm talking about creativity. Not great guitar playing. You either do not not know Queen's back catalogue or don't recognise ground breaking music. Queen were totally original. I Want It All is totally derivative.

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Now playing: Brother Firetribe - Runaways

hey hey you ..I'm no expert like i say, i do know some older Queen albums not all (is not my fav band or anything).. maybe because of my heavy metal background i like more the heavy catchy sound that i think this song have..
I like the darn song deal with it Mister!!

Sorry to answer my own post, but Queen have done 3 greatest hits albums called I, II & III. Go listen to them in order and then tell me I'm wrong.

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Now playing: Brother Firetribe - I Am Rock

[Ftloperry]

Queen is 100 times better than Def Leopard. No one can touch Freddie's voice....he was pure magic....

You Don't Fool Me one of Freddie's last songs he ever did with Queen. Not long after doing this Freddie passed away....vocals are incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff_bL-2koP8&feature=related

[RedWingFan]

Queen is 100 times better than Def Leopard. No one can touch Freddie's voice....he was pure magic....

You Don't Fool Me one of Freddie's last songs he ever did with Queen. Not long after doing this Freddie passed away....vocals are incredible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff_bL-2koP8&feature=related

Wow. I have this Billy Squire cd with Freddie on background vocals, but I've never heard this extended version with Freddie's opening!!! Dude was the best!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etz1buEq7io

[jrnyman28]

I'm talking about creativity. Not great guitar playing. You either do not not know Queen's back catalogue or don't recognise ground breaking music. Queen were totally original. I Want It All is totally derivative.

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Now playing: Brother Firetribe - Runaways

hey hey you ..I'm no expert like i say, i do know some older Queen albums not all (is not my fav band or anything).. maybe because of my heavy metal background i like more the heavy catchy sound that i think this song have..
I like the darn song deal with it Mister!!

Sorry to answer my own post, but Queen have done 3 greatest hits albums called I, II & III. Go listen to them in order and then tell me I'm wrong.

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Now playing: Brother Firetribe - I Am Rock

It could be argued that Queen learned to craft very good "run-og-the-mill" rock songs. The fact is they learned to craft commercial rock. IMO, for the band to survive, they needed to follow that direction more. Their previous work would not sell nor be as viable in the 80's. Sort of like Yes' 90125. It's not like this direction was new to Queen, look at "You're My Best Friend" or "Crazy Little Thing Called Love". Queen were always all over the map and that continued to a lesser degree in their later years. Innuendo is one of my favorite CDs. And the title track still shows a band that can construct a very creative, interesting song. Add the emotional connection on some of the other songs to Freddie's condition and it blows me away. Yet they still have a quirky song like "Delilah" on there too. As for "I Want It All", I think the hook of that chorus is monstrous. And the shout-out style of it was rather unique. You might think it is a derivative, pop, commercial sound but it took 20 years to make it into a commercial. I think it was a little ahead of it's time back then.

[JeremyP]

It could be argued that Queen learned to craft very good "run-og-the-mill" rock songs. The fact is they learned to craft commercial rock. IMO, for the band to survive, they needed to follow that direction more. Their previous work would not sell nor be as viable in the 80's. Sort of like Yes' 90125. It's not like this direction was new to Queen, look at "You're My Best Friend" or "Crazy Little Thing Called Love". Queen were always all over the map and that continued to a lesser degree in their later years. Innuendo is one of my favorite CDs. And the title track still shows a band that can construct a very creative, interesting song. Add the emotional connection on some of the other songs to Freddie's condition and it blows me away. Yet they still have a quirky song like "Delilah" on there too. As for "I Want It All", I think the hook of that chorus is monstrous. And the shout-out style of it was rather unique. You might think it is a derivative, pop, commercial sound but it took 20 years to make it into a commercial. I think it was a little ahead of it's time back then.

Great post. I agree 100%.

[brywool]

To an extent, but a band that ran out of steam in my opinion. C'mon, I Want it All, Breakthrough et al... total crap. This might have been a better argument if I wasn't playing Faster Pussycat as i write this.

I don't know how anyone could think "I Want It All" is crap. Brian's guitar playing is especially awesome.

I love Queen. DL's okay too, but TO ME, they just don't have the imagination Queen does.
However- I have never liked I Want it All. It was a low point for me as far as Queen goes. I did like that album, just that song was lost on me. I think one of my favorite Queen albums is "The Works". It's not as imaginative as Opera or Races, but it's a good well rounded album.