New Perry Vocal Isolation (DSB).

[Art Vandelay]

ALSO-

"Lovin Touchin Squeezin" wouldn't exist without "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have for You"

Perry COMPLETELY ripped the first line off from that tune as well as it's phrasing.
Perry was a Great Great singer, but without Sam, you gotta wonder what SP woulda sounded like. Perry copped a LOT of Sam's style and licks.

I think it's fair to say that he paid tribute to his vocal influence rather than ripped off. It's a catchy harmony that worked great as a lead-in to LTS.

[youkeepmewaiting]

ALSO-

"Lovin Touchin Squeezin" wouldn't exist without "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have for You"

Perry COMPLETELY ripped the first line off from that tune as well as it's phrasing.
Perry was a Great Great singer, but without Sam, you gotta wonder what SP woulda sounded like. Perry copped a LOT of Sam's style and licks.

I think it's fair to say that he paid tribute to his vocal influence rather than ripped off. It's a catchy harmony that worked great as a lead-in to LTS.

Perry turned "NCECTLIHFY" into a bloody awful song.

[Art Vandelay]

ALSO-

"Lovin Touchin Squeezin" wouldn't exist without "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have for You"

Perry COMPLETELY ripped the first line off from that tune as well as it's phrasing.
Perry was a Great Great singer, but without Sam, you gotta wonder what SP woulda sounded like. Perry copped a LOT of Sam's style and licks.

I think it's fair to say that he paid tribute to his vocal influence rather than ripped off. It's a catchy harmony that worked great as a lead-in to LTS.

Perry turned "NCECTLIHFY" into a bloody awful song.

He didn't turn "NCECTLIHFY" into anything. He didn't remake the song. Just three words and the melody as the intro to his own song.

[youkeepmewaiting]

ALSO-

"Lovin Touchin Squeezin" wouldn't exist without "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have for You"

Perry COMPLETELY ripped the first line off from that tune as well as it's phrasing.
Perry was a Great Great singer, but without Sam, you gotta wonder what SP woulda sounded like. Perry copped a LOT of Sam's style and licks.

I think it's fair to say that he paid tribute to his vocal influence rather than ripped off. It's a catchy harmony that worked great as a lead-in to LTS.

Perry turned "NCECTLIHFY" into a bloody awful song.

He didn't turn "NCECTLIHFY" into anything. He didn't remake the song. Just three words and the melody as the intro to his own song.

...which was bloody awful...

[brywool]

ALSO-

"Lovin Touchin Squeezin" wouldn't exist without "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have for You"

Perry COMPLETELY ripped the first line off from that tune as well as it's phrasing.
Perry was a Great Great singer, but without Sam, you gotta wonder what SP woulda sounded like. Perry copped a LOT of Sam's style and licks.

I think it's fair to say that he paid tribute to his vocal influence rather than ripped off. It's a catchy harmony that worked great as a lead-in to LTS.

he... I dunno. If Harrison's My Sweet Lord was guilty of ripping of He's So Fine, Then LTS is DEFINITELY guilty of ripping of Sam. Almost the same words, definitely the same melody.

[Art Vandelay]

ALSO-

"Lovin Touchin Squeezin" wouldn't exist without "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have for You"

Perry COMPLETELY ripped the first line off from that tune as well as it's phrasing.
Perry was a Great Great singer, but without Sam, you gotta wonder what SP woulda sounded like. Perry copped a LOT of Sam's style and licks.

I think it's fair to say that he paid tribute to his vocal influence rather than ripped off. It's a catchy harmony that worked great as a lead-in to LTS.

he... I dunno. If Harrison's My Sweet Lord was guilty of ripping of He's So Fine, Then LTS is DEFINITELY guilty of ripping of Sam. Almost the same words, definitely the same melody.

I dunno about that either....you're talking a 5 second intro compared to the melody of a complete song. The entire chorus of MSW is exactly the same as HSF and used throughout the entire song.

[brywool]

ALSO-

"Lovin Touchin Squeezin" wouldn't exist without "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have for You"

Perry COMPLETELY ripped the first line off from that tune as well as it's phrasing.
Perry was a Great Great singer, but without Sam, you gotta wonder what SP woulda sounded like. Perry copped a LOT of Sam's style and licks.

I think it's fair to say that he paid tribute to his vocal influence rather than ripped off. It's a catchy harmony that worked great as a lead-in to LTS.

he... I dunno. If Harrison's My Sweet Lord was guilty of ripping of He's So Fine, Then LTS is DEFINITELY guilty of ripping of Sam. Almost the same words, definitely the same melody.

I dunno about that either....you're talking a 5 second intro compared to the melody of a complete song. The entire chorus of MSW is exactly the same as HSF and used throughout the entire song.

I guess so, I don't see those as sounding that much alike. Harrison didn't also borrow the real singer's vocal style and tone.
Oh well, everybody has their influences. Some where them like a badge, some not so much. In the scheme of things, it's no big deal, just not too original. LTS was never my favorite Journey song and I'm actually pretty sick of it. On the other hand, "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have For You"- I could listen to all day.
I just reread my original post above.... Holy Crap, have some caffeine man!

[Art Vandelay]

ALSO-

"Lovin Touchin Squeezin" wouldn't exist without "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have for You"

Perry COMPLETELY ripped the first line off from that tune as well as it's phrasing.
Perry was a Great Great singer, but without Sam, you gotta wonder what SP woulda sounded like. Perry copped a LOT of Sam's style and licks.

I think it's fair to say that he paid tribute to his vocal influence rather than ripped off. It's a catchy harmony that worked great as a lead-in to LTS.

he... I dunno. If Harrison's My Sweet Lord was guilty of ripping of He's So Fine, Then LTS is DEFINITELY guilty of ripping of Sam. Almost the same words, definitely the same melody.

I dunno about that either....you're talking a 5 second intro compared to the melody of a complete song. The entire chorus of MSW is exactly the same as HSF and used throughout the entire song.

I guess so, I don't see those as sounding that much alike. Harrison didn't also borrow the real singer's vocal style and tone.
Oh well, everybody has their influences. Some where them like a badge, some not so much. In the scheme of things, it's no big deal, just not too original. LTS was never my favorite Journey song and I'm actually pretty sick of it. On the other hand, "Nothing Can Ever Change This Love I Have For You"- I could listen to all day.
I just reread my original post above.... Holy Crap, have some caffeine man!

Works for me!

[kgdjpubs]

Here is a compilation of Freddy Curci high notes. He's pretty amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJt9ktfCBxc

This guys range in off the charts !! HOWEVER, it is too high and reminds me of a little girl screaming like when kids are playing or they get startled. This guy just seems like he is saying, "look at me, I can sing really, really high. He was obviously more worried about serving his ego than the music. That is what I hear anyway.

It was show-off only in Sheriff. Take a 19-year old guy with an exceptional voice out of freshman year of college and throw him in a studio, and that's what you get sometimes. By the time the Alias record was done, he had come down quite a bit except for choice locations (most of which were in that compilation), and is quite restrained and VERY effective on his solo album Dreamer's Road.

Curci certainly isn't the only one to do oversinging--and that post makes it worse than it really is, unless you just like to hear how high you can push the male voice. A lot of singers have been guilty of oversinging at one point or another from Hugo to John Farnham to Tony Harnell (who makes Curci sound like a baritone).

Truthfully, there IS a place in some songs where high notes can be done well without coming off as showboating--the outro of Why Can't This Night Go On Forever is a good example. The key, or talent, is knowing what songs and where it is appropriate to do vocal acrobatics....and when NOT to and just sing the melody.

[Ftloperry]

He was THE fucking man with his vocals, and I don't think we will EVER hear anyone else that can do what
The only person I have heard that I would compare with Perry is Sam Cooke, who was obviously major influence #1. Sam Cooke could do things Perry couldn't, but Perry had more range. As to who is better, I don't know.

If you've never heard Cooke, please listen to Lost and Looking, from the Night Beat album. Forget the pop stuff that made the radio. THIS was the real Sam Cooke--and probably one of the best vocals I have ever heard by any singer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvY-PYbXGV4

Sam Cooke when he sang you heard every single syllable in every word. It's amazing....Sam Cooke was amazing. The only other singer that does that is Steve Perry. The comparison vocally between Sam and Steve are incredible. If you listen to "Summer of Luv" by Steve Perry you can hear vocal reference styles to Sam Cooke that are so close to Sam's vocals on "Send Me Some Lovin". The similarities are amazing. There will never be another incredible singer like Steve Perry ever! Truly a special gift.

SUMMER OF LUV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE9xCnwGcxQ

SEND ME SOME LOVIN'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXR5tuqLGOc

[portland]

He was THE fucking man with his vocals, and I don't think we will EVER hear anyone else that can do what
The only person I have heard that I would compare with Perry is Sam Cooke, who was obviously major influence #1. Sam Cooke could do things Perry couldn't, but Perry had more range. As to who is better, I don't know.

If you've never heard Cooke, please listen to Lost and Looking, from the Night Beat album. Forget the pop stuff that made the radio. THIS was the real Sam Cooke--and probably one of the best vocals I have ever heard by any singer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvY-PYbXGV4

Sam Cooke when he sang you heard every single syllable in every word. It's amazing....Sam Cooke was amazing. The only other singer that does that is Steve Perry. The comparison vocally between Sam and Steve are incredible. If you listen to "Summer of Luv" by Steve Perry you can hear vocal reference styles to Sam Cooke that are so close to Sam's vocals on "Send Me Some Lovin". The similarities are amazing. There will never be another incredible singer like Steve Perry ever! Truly a special gift.

SUMMER OF LUV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE9xCnwGcxQ

SEND ME SOME LOVIN'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXR5tuqLGOc

I love Summer of LUV - run duck for cover........I know a lot of you don't....but I do

[jrnyman28]

A lot of singers have been guilty of oversinging at one point or another from Hugo to John Farnham to Tony Harnell (who makes Curci sound like a baritone).

Truthfully, there IS a place in some songs where high notes can be done well without coming off as showboating--

Including Most R&B, pop-diva singers of today.

[youkeepmewaiting]

He was THE fucking man with his vocals, and I don't think we will EVER hear anyone else that can do what
The only person I have heard that I would compare with Perry is Sam Cooke, who was obviously major influence #1. Sam Cooke could do things Perry couldn't, but Perry had more range. As to who is better, I don't know.

If you've never heard Cooke, please listen to Lost and Looking, from the Night Beat album. Forget the pop stuff that made the radio. THIS was the real Sam Cooke--and probably one of the best vocals I have ever heard by any singer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvY-PYbXGV4

Sam Cooke when he sang you heard every single syllable in every word. It's amazing....Sam Cooke was amazing. The only other singer that does that is Steve Perry. The comparison vocally between Sam and Steve are incredible. If you listen to "Summer of Luv" by Steve Perry you can hear vocal reference styles to Sam Cooke that are so close to Sam's vocals on "Send Me Some Lovin". The similarities are amazing. There will never be another incredible singer like Steve Perry ever! Truly a special gift.

SUMMER OF LUV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE9xCnwGcxQ

SEND ME SOME LOVIN'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXR5tuqLGOc

I love Summer of LUV - run duck for cover........I know a lot of you don't....but I do

Yeah me too. "get me to the church on time" was a bit cringy though

[Don]

Here is a compilation of Freddy Curci high notes. He's pretty amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJt9ktfCBxc

This guys range in off the charts !! HOWEVER, it is too high and reminds me of a little girl screaming like when kids are playing or they get startled. This guy just seems like he is saying, "look at me, I can sing really, really high. He was obviously more worried about serving his ego than the music. That is what I hear anyway.

It was show-off only in Sheriff. Take a 19-year old guy with an exceptional voice out of freshman year of college and throw him in a studio, and that's what you get sometimes. By the time the Alias record was done, he had come down quite a bit except for choice locations (most of which were in that compilation), and is quite restrained and VERY effective on his solo album Dreamer's Road.

Curci certainly isn't the only one to do oversinging--and that post makes it worse than it really is, unless you just like to hear how high you can push the male voice. A lot of singers have been guilty of oversinging at one point or another from Hugo to John Farnham to Tony Harnell (who makes Curci sound like a baritone).

Truthfully, there IS a place in some songs where high notes can be done well without coming off as showboating--the outro of Why Can't This Night Go On Forever is a good example. The key, or talent, is knowing what songs and where it is appropriate to do vocal acrobatics....and when NOT to and just sing the melody.

Wasn't that a sticking pick with Little River Band, they thought John over sang too much when in concert? Also his wondering towards the crowd while singing, a reason they duct taped his mic cord to the floor so he couldn't wonder off.

[portland]

oh and Splasy,



sucks to be right about the beaked one, but been waiting for years. He won't be doing anything soon.

You must use a of your positive energy somewhere else....cause we never see it here

[Don]

oh and Splasy,



sucks to be right about the beaked one, but been waiting for years. He won't be doing anything soon.

You must use a of your positive energy somewhere else....cause we never see it here

I thought he was spending time over with the pinheads. That has to utilize all his positive energy for sure. No frowns allowed in Pinhead town!

[portland]

oh and Splasy,



sucks to be right about the beaked one, but been waiting for years. He won't be doing anything soon.

You must use a of your positive energy somewhere else....cause we never see it here

I thought he was spending time over with the pinheads. That has to utilize all his positive energy for sure. No frowns allowed in Pinhead town!

a smile is only a frown turned upside down!!!! It must be such a happy place...almost like Neverland!

[Jana]

oh and Splasy,



sucks to be right about the beaked one, but been waiting for years. He won't be doing anything soon.

You must use a of your positive energy somewhere else....cause we never see it here

I thought he was spending time over with the pinheads. That has to utilize all his positive energy for sure. No frowns allowed in Pinhead town!

[Jana]

oh and Splasy,



sucks to be right about the beaked one, but been waiting for years. He won't be doing anything soon.

You must use a of your positive energy somewhere else....cause we never see it here

I thought he was spending time over with the pinheads. That has to utilize all his positive energy for sure. No frowns allowed in Pinhead town!

Brywool has lots of positive energy here. Gunbot's negative self just cancels it out

[portland]

oh and Splasy,



sucks to be right about the beaked one, but been waiting for years. He won't be doing anything soon.

You must use a of your positive energy somewhere else....cause we never see it here

I thought he was spending time over with the pinheads. That has to utilize all his positive energy for sure. No frowns allowed in Pinhead town!

Brywool has lots of positive energy here. Gunbot's negative self just cancels it out

Jana.......GB is not a negative person, just a realist......remember!

[Jana]

oh and Splasy,



sucks to be right about the beaked one, but been waiting for years. He won't be doing anything soon.

You must use a of your positive energy somewhere else....cause we never see it here

I thought he was spending time over with the pinheads. That has to utilize all his positive energy for sure. No frowns allowed in Pinhead town!

Brywool has lots of positive energy here. Gunbot's negative self just cancels it out

Jana.......GB is not a negative person, just a realist......remember!

I'm trying to be a positive influence on you Portland and not let him take you all the way to the dark side.

[Don]

I have been very positive as of late, I just don't give into affirmative action. I am selective in my joviality.

[kgdjpubs]

Curci certainly isn't the only one to do oversinging--and that post makes it worse than it really is, unless you just like to hear how high you can push the male voice. A lot of singers have been guilty of oversinging at one point or another from Hugo to John Farnham to Tony Harnell (who makes Curci sound like a baritone).

Wasn't that a sticking pick with Little River Band, they thought John over sang too much when in concert? Also his wondering towards the crowd while singing, a reason they duct taped his mic cord to the floor so he couldn't wonder off.

Probably a combination of oversinging, acting as the frontman and Farnham's usual thing of ad-libs and changing up the melody when singing live. He's never been one to give you an exact studio replica--and I doubt that sat too well with LRB. As long as he had been around even at that point though, LRB should have known what they were getting into as far as a performance standpoint. If they didn't know, it was their own fault.

If you haven't seen it, PLEASE go look/listen to this interview with Farnham talking about the LRB experience, oversinging, Mariah Carey, and some other choice topics. Absolutely classic Farnham! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25a24u7UFA

[Don]

Curci certainly isn't the only one to do oversinging--and that post makes it worse than it really is, unless you just like to hear how high you can push the male voice. A lot of singers have been guilty of oversinging at one point or another from Hugo to John Farnham to Tony Harnell (who makes Curci sound like a baritone).

Wasn't that a sticking pick with Little River Band, they thought John over sang too much when in concert? Also his wondering towards the crowd while singing, a reason they duct taped his mic cord to the floor so he couldn't wonder off.

Probably a combination of oversinging, acting as the frontman and Farnham's usual thing of ad-libs and changing up the melody when singing live. He's never been one to give you an exact studio replica--and I doubt that sat too well with LRB. As long as he had been around even at that point though, LRB should have known what they were getting into as far as a performance standpoint. If they didn't know, it was their own fault.

If you haven't seen it, PLEASE go look/listen to this interview with Farnham talking about the LRB experience, oversinging, Mariah Carey, and some other choice topics. Absolutely classic Farnham! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f25a24u7UFA

I'd love to have a few pints with that guy, he would be a riot.