MelRock Awards - 2008 Late Edition

[Andrew]

The melodies are tighter and stronger than they were on Erase the Slate (another great record), so it's exciting to hear a net gain in the band's sound over the last decade.

No arguement there....Levin and Soto really made this record.

[weatherman90]

The melodies are tighter and stronger than they were on Erase the Slate (another great record), so it's exciting to hear a net gain in the band's sound over the last decade.

No arguement there....Levin and Soto really made this record.

Levin is truly a godsend for Dokken. You could search the earth time and time again without finding a more suitable player.

[yulog]

Wasnt that Deeno?

no it wasn't. and it's deano, not deeno. unless you are referring to someone other than "rockindeno."

Correct.
All hail The Chief (34Mac) for DHOTY.

Guy deservered the award just for his ignorant comments about Brad Delp alone, way to go

[JasonD]

Lame attempt on the DHOTY. I believe everyone knows that it realistically should've been Ed. He certainly has caused more 'problem' here than Chief ever did. Even though Andrew and Ed are on civil terms with one another now (and Ed is a friend of mine & I mean no disrespect to him), this seems like a cowardly way out to me.

Congrats to Eric Ragno for his KBPOTY award!

Well at the same time that Andrew rightfully thinks that Chief did deserve to be named the DHOTY ( due to some empty threats against MR) , and while Ed/AR did do some minor damage here and there, I dont think it was big enough for him to top Chief and even if it was, Andrew wouldnt give Ed the pleasure of getting attention he would love to get as a bad boy of the boards!

I'm not sure how "empty" those threats were B. He made the threats, and followed through with them. He started a board, courted some of Andrews sponsors, did interviews, reviewed new releases. I don't think any of that is empty. He was running his version of MR. He INTENDED to run Andrew out of business. I would take that very very personal, seeing how Drew's got a wife and kids to feed. Chief just wasn't savvy enough to make his plan work.

I was stunned that he pulled that shit.

well said rick

+1

Yes, Rick, that just about sums it up. Good post!

[Rip Rokken]

Dude, he's out of tune and struggling to his basic notes....he was a good vocalist, but that wasn't present on LSA.

I don't hear out of tune at all. He does of course struggle in places, but for the most part he sings within himself. Everyone's voice ages differently and I could dwell on it, but as a listener I tend to turn it up to 11 and never look back when that Standing on the Outside riff kicks in.

The melodies are tighter and stronger than they were on Erase the Slate (another great record), so it's exciting to hear a net gain in the band's sound over the last decade.

I really think Andrew has something against The Don -- always have felt that for some reason. Leaving him off the list must be some passive-aggressive swipe at him.

[stevew2]

Lame attempt on the DHOTY. I believe everyone knows that it realistically should've been Ed. He certainly has caused more 'problem' here than Chief ever did. Even though Andrew and Ed are on civil terms with one another now (and Ed is a friend of mine & I mean no disrespect to him), this seems like a cowardly way out to me.

Congrats to Eric Ragno for his KBPOTY award!

Well at the same time that Andrew rightfully thinks that Chief did deserve to be named the DHOTY ( due to some empty threats against MR) , and while Ed/AR did do some minor damage here and there, I dont think it was big enough for him to top Chief and even if it was, Andrew wouldnt give Ed the pleasure of getting attention he would love to get as a bad boy of the boards!

I'm not sure how "empty" those threats were B. He made the threats, and followed through with them. He started a board, courted some of Andrews sponsors, did interviews, reviewed new releases. I don't think any of that is empty. He was running his version of MR. He INTENDED to run Andrew out of business. I would take that very very personal, seeing how Drew's got a wife and kids to feed. Chief just wasn't savvy enough to make his plan work.

I was stunned that he pulled that shit.

well said rick

+1

Yes, Rick, that just about sums it up. Good post!

I think you have a thing for Rick

[Rip Rokken]

The melodies are tighter and stronger than they were on Erase the Slate (another great record), so it's exciting to hear a net gain in the band's sound over the last decade.

No arguement there....Levin and Soto really made this record.

Can't leave out Wild Mick on the skins, either. An integral part of the Dokken sound. But now I'm more curious than ever -- I've always kind of gotten a vibe from you that you don't care for Don personally. So what did he do to you?

[Andrew]

I've always kind of gotten a vibe from you that you don't care for Don personally. So what did he do to you?

Seriously? Why? I don't get it....

I think Don's pretty cool and was one hell of a vocalist. I own almost all the Dokken releases too. Never met or talked to Don aside from a couple of e-mails, but I still respect the man and the legacy.

Not sure why you get that vibe, but couldn't be further from the truth. No bias one way or the other.

[donnaplease]

Lame attempt on the DHOTY. I believe everyone knows that it realistically should've been Ed. He certainly has caused more 'problem' here than Chief ever did. Even though Andrew and Ed are on civil terms with one another now (and Ed is a friend of mine & I mean no disrespect to him), this seems like a cowardly way out to me.

You gotta be kidding me right? Thanks for the post of the week.

I didn't even consider Ed.

Yeah, Eds "badboy" persona was debunked a year ago on WTF. Why would he be on the list for this past year. This last year has been super quiet overall in comparison to 2 yrs ago..its been like a library

He was banned very late December or early January of 2008, and then came the alleged breaking into here using fake IPs and other people's accounts. It eventually led to Andrew having to approve people's memberships I believe. And trust me when I say that I know when all the crap went down and he became the villain of MR, because several others of us became guilty by association with him and a few others. Don't forget guys that we're over halfway through 2009 by now...

[Rip Rokken]

I've always kind of gotten a vibe from you that you don't care for Don personally. So what did he do to you?

Seriously? Why? I don't get it....

I think Don's pretty cool and was one hell of a vocalist. I own almost all the Dokken releases too. Never met or talked to Don aside from a couple of e-mails, but I still respect the man and the legacy.

Not sure why you get that vibe, but couldn't be further from the truth. No bias one way or the other.

Gotcha! Just wanted to hear you say something nice about Dokken. Haha...

Hey, what is his e-mail address? Just want to make sure yours is up-to-date.



Have you heard Solitary, btw? His voice really shines on it. Beautiful album, and really haunting in places.

[Chubby321]

[steveo777]

I think you quoted out of context there.

[Behshad]

Lame attempt on the DHOTY. I believe everyone knows that it realistically should've been Ed. He certainly has caused more 'problem' here than Chief ever did. Even though Andrew and Ed are on civil terms with one another now (and Ed is a friend of mine & I mean no disrespect to him), this seems like a cowardly way out to me.

Congrats to Eric Ragno for his KBPOTY award!

Well at the same time that Andrew rightfully thinks that Chief did deserve to be named the DHOTY ( due to some empty threats against MR) , and while Ed/AR did do some minor damage here and there, I dont think it was big enough for him to top Chief and even if it was, Andrew wouldnt give Ed the pleasure of getting attention he would love to get as a bad boy of the boards!

I'm not sure how "empty" those threats were B. He made the threats, and followed through with them. He started a board, courted some of Andrews sponsors, did interviews, reviewed new releases. I don't think any of that is empty. He was running his version of MR. He INTENDED to run Andrew out of business. I would take that very very personal, seeing how Drew's got a wife and kids to feed. Chief just wasn't savvy enough to make his plan work.

I was stunned that he pulled that shit.

well said rick

+1

Yes, Rick, that just about sums it up. Good post!

I think you have a thing for Rick

I think you have a thing for Dick

[yulog]

I think you quoted out of context there.

how did you do that ,misquote by the wrong person

[Behshad]

As moonie would say, "Lady Lula, your post is unusual, but amusing"

[Chubby321]

I think you quoted out of context there.

how did you do that ,misquote by the wrong person

Oh shit

[JasonD]

I think you quoted out of context there.

how did you do that ,misquote by the wrong person

Oh shit

Deano's gonna beat your ass. Run, Chubby!!!

I especially like what you quoted youkeepmewaiting as saying. Riveting!

[Chubby321]

I think you quoted out of context there.

how did you do that ,misquote by the wrong person

Oh shit

Deano's gonna beat your ass. Run, Chubby!!!

I especially like what you quoted youkeepmewaiting as saying. Riveting!

Damn, I hope I can convince the plokkers to be my human shield.

[steveo777]

I think you quoted out of context there.

how did you do that ,misquote by the wrong person

Oh shit

Deano's gonna beat your ass. Run, Chubby!!!

I especially like what you quoted youkeepmewaiting as saying. Riveting!

A+
Would definitely read again!

[JasonD]

I think you quoted out of context there.

how did you do that ,misquote by the wrong person

Oh shit

Deano's gonna beat your ass. Run, Chubby!!!

I especially like what you quoted youkeepmewaiting as saying. Riveting!

Damn, I hope I can convince the plokkers to be my human shield.

Do you guys realize that none of our quotes are lining up with the name of the person who wrote them? For example, this is me JASON writing this post, but at the top of this post it will say it’s posted by Chubby321 b/c all of the post are one person behind...or one person in front... or just plain jacked up b/c my previous post says it was written by Yulog. Damn. If we keep this up, Andrew won’t know who to block. (only kidding.)

[Don]

Wasnt that Deeno?

no it wasn't. and it's deano, not deeno. unless you are referring to someone other than "rockindeno."

Correct.
All hail The Chief (34Mac) for DHOTY.

Guy deservered the award just for his ignorant comments about Brad Delp alone, way to go

I think you quoted out of context there.

how did you do that ,misquote by the wrong person

Oh shit

Deano's gonna beat your ass. Run, Chubby!!!

I especially like what you quoted youkeepmewaiting as saying. Riveting!

Damn, I hope I can convince the plokkers to be my human shield.

Do you guys realize that none of our quotes are lining up with the name of the person who wrote them? For example, this is me JASON writing this post, but at the top of this post it will say it’s posted by Chubby321 b/c all of the post are one person behind...or one person in front... or just plain jacked up b/c my previous post says it was written by Yulog. Damn. If we keep this up, Andrew won’t know who to block. (only kidding.)

Got it now, guys?

[JasonD]

Wasnt that Deeno?

no it wasn't. and it's deano, not deeno. unless you are referring to someone other than "rockindeno."

Correct.
All hail The Chief (34Mac) for DHOTY.

Guy deservered the award just for his ignorant comments about Brad Delp alone, way to go

I think you quoted out of context there.

how did you do that ,misquote by the wrong person

Oh shit

Deano's gonna beat your ass. Run, Chubby!!!

I especially like what you quoted youkeepmewaiting as saying. Riveting!

Damn, I hope I can convince the plokkers to be my human shield.

Do you guys realize that none of our quotes are lining up with the name of the person who wrote them? For example, this is me JASON writing this post, but at the top of this post it will say it’s posted by Chubby321 b/c all of the post are one person behind...or one person in front... or just plain jacked up b/c my previous post says it was written by Yulog. Damn. If we keep this up, Andrew won’t know who to block. (only kidding.)

Got it now, guys?

Damn--- the jig is up! EVERYBODY RUN !!!!!!!!

[Chubby321]

Blame it on Yulog ......and that dick in the head.

[Chubby321]

Back to topic.

Question for Wombat....just curious, any particular reason why you did not include What I Needed?

[Red13JoePa]

Like he said personal preference but he did RATE Turn Down The World Tonight and I love What It Takes To Win @#26 overall on the year....underatted song...

[strangegrey]

Lame attempt on the DHOTY. I believe everyone knows that it realistically should've been Ed. He certainly has caused more 'problem' here than Chief ever did. Even though Andrew and Ed are on civil terms with one another now (and Ed is a friend of mine & I mean no disrespect to him), this seems like a cowardly way out to me.

You gotta be kidding me right? Thanks for the post of the week.

I didn't even consider Ed.

Andrew, with all due respect...and not saying this to stir the shit, just saying what's on my mind....the DHOTY in and of itself has grown lame....at least to me. What I feel it does, is that it cheapens the rest of the awards. Sure, it's great fun to find one guy and kick him at the end of each year...but the way it reads to me is out of one side of you're mouth you're praising artists for their hard work while putting the full weight of melodicrock's reputation behind such praise and accolades to justify these awards.

....while out of the other side of the mouth, you pick an insignificant fan (who's not even a recording artist) to bitch slap. The forums get a kick out of it, because, well, the forums are a mob. They enjoy making a circle and watching someone get kicked in the guts until he cries for mommy...


But in all seriousness, think of it from these set of glasses....it's like watching the Grammys or the Oscars on TV and at the end of the night, after Sean Connery or Bruce Springsteen or whomever, walks off with their lifetime achievement awards, out comes one of the guys from the band Right Said Fred to announce the "cock-nozzle of the year" award. The award has 4 nominees, William Hung is one of them. But the winner, is some guy that serves hot dogs down on the street where the Academy's offices are located....the guy is a sterno-bum and sings top 40 songs to people as they buy his dirty water dogs!

Can you imagine how Sean Connery feels?? He was bestowed some great honor by the academy, and he has to watch the academy give an award to some sterno-drunk that sells hotdogs.

Was Jeff (chief) smart in announcing you as such a blatant target? No, not at all. Did he stand a chance? Probably not. But by awarding him this 'honor' you are giving credence to such an attempt. Also, there's such a thing as grace in victory.....as, afaik, one of the reasons he closed up shop was that his wife developed serious health problems and he had to give up to take care of her.

Even if it's not Jeff but anyone else, once you label them as DHOTY, you have to then deal with them the following year, because the title will either anger the recipient, or egg them on. It hardly makes them 'go away'...



Regardless, still think about it in terms of how it makes the awards look silly. That's really the main point I'm trying to make. It's hard to take the real awards seriously, when right underneath, you're giving someone who may or may not have been a thorn in your side for part of the year....Just my $0.02.....without the DHOTY award, the rest of the awards look FAR more legit. They might not have the fun-factor here.....

...but are you doing these awards for the forum members here? or the serious movers and shakers in MR that want to utilize your opinions when marketing their artists?

[yulog]

Holy Crap TVL has taken over strangegreys posts

[Rocker Chic]

Lame attempt on the DHOTY. I believe everyone knows that it realistically should've been Ed. He certainly has caused more 'problem' here than Chief ever did. Even though Andrew and Ed are on civil terms with one another now (and Ed is a friend of mine & I mean no disrespect to him), this seems like a cowardly way out to me.

Congrats to Eric Ragno for his KBPOTY award!

I actually thought someone else, who we are not allowed to discuss anywhere any longer, would have gotten that award (he really disserves it), but I suspect that would have unleased a whole host of additional nightmares. The man is downright creepy, dillusional, and quite a loose cannon. To many, he is most definitely the biggest DHOTY ever!

I never had any doubt that Eric would pick up the KPOTY award again. There just wasn't any real competition anyway! Congrats, Eric!

Debbie

[bluejeangirl76]

once you label them as DHOTY, you have to then deal with them the following year, because the title will either anger the recipient, or egg them on. It hardly makes them 'go away'...

Right. That's why I'll keep my nominees to myself.

[Lula]

Holy Crap TVL has taken over strangegreys posts

the dhoty said publicly he would wipe andrew and mr out. that is nothing other than mean. those of us who knew that little contingent of manipulator(s) are glad to see them gone. sorry to hear of the illness that has struck his wife. i don't think that is what stopped him from taking over andrew's domain; years of hard work establishing a reputation and building a reputable site do not come easy. shame on that little pair that thought they could take over.