President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

[Deacon]

...with no regard to context.

[Blueskies]

phyl... why aren't you here speaking up when it's tnc or others throwing out the vulgarities/personal attacks? i am noticing a pattern with you... i'm sure others see it as well.

good grief.
We have been thru this before and as you well know I have said something to TNC before as well as others. Once again, as simply as I can try to explain it....

TNC & " others" aren't the ones complaining about what is said to them.
The ones that are complaining have done the same exact thing...cuss, name call and insult.
So thats the point...I am not trying to defend anyone....I am just tired of reading some of y'all's griping about something you do yourselves. If insulted , called a name , whatever...y'all retaliate with the same ...you cuss, name call and insult.
Want to do that...cuss, call names, insult? Fine by me! Just don't complain about it being dished out to you then....it doesn't work that way...if you want to complain about a behavior then don't behave that way yourself...because if you do complain you don't have a leg to stand on if you've done the same.
Same behavior..same speech use....and therefore the hypocrisy of complaining about the same type of speech is the pattern that I'VE noticed and is what I am pointing out. I'm sure others see it as well.

I'm going to try to explain to you this LAST time... I jumped on TNC NOT for "cussing me out". I stated that ALL HE DOES is jump on people, degrade them, and is an asshole. He does this to pretty much everyone here, ALL the time. According to you though...I guess now I'M being an asshole to EVERYBODY here just like him. How many people have you seen me get short with, cuss out, or talk down to here? I can count only a couple.

Also, who the hell was I "complaining" to? I don't recall that. I recall him saying I was dumber than a candlestick, and I responded to HIM... not to Blueskies. I didn't complain, or whine to anyone! If I have a fucking problem with someone, they know it immediately! I don't beat around the bush or "pretend" that I like someone.

I stood up for you on here many times, but I'm starting to see what makes everyone jump on you when you post.

Are you drunk? Did I just address that post above to you personally....was I referring to you there??? I posted to you previously so why don't you respond to that if you wish because I didn't have you in mind when I wrote the post you just qouted and didn't mention you any where in it. and when the hell did you stand up for me??...yeah, right dude show me the posts....I think it has been the other way around since you sent me pm's thanking me for doing it.

Your whole joining in on this arguement was after I posted to TNC. I guess I should have quoted your post right before this where you say the word "prick", which was only said by me. Who the hell else would you be referring to than if it wasn't to me? And I HAVE stood up for you MANY times. Ask Beshad, Dan, Rhiannon, Stevew2, etc... I'm damn sure not wading through 5000 fucking posts to try to prove it. I appreciate the times you have stood up for me, but I've never asked you to.

For the record...no, I'm not drunk. I SHOULD be though!

Uhhh...Mr. Paranoid ..I guess you haven't noticed that Deacon has been trying to defend to me on HIS use of the term "prick" in the last few pages. He's the one I quoted that used the term, not you. So you were NOT the ONLY one who used the term and the discussion of the use of that term is not in reference to you and has nothing to do with you. Why don't you read before you post.

[G.I.Jim]

Blueskies, let's try this a different way... Here is EXACTLY what I posted:

"95% of the time that you post on here, you're either degrading someone, arguing with someone, or just plain being a PRICK! "

Now did I say he was cussing me out? NO! Am I complaining about it to anyone here? NO! I went directly to the source and told him what I thought! No complaining to anyone here by me.

If all he did was cuss at me, then I cussed him back in return, your explanation would work. That point is correct. If I said he shouldn't cuss, then I cussed at him, I would be a hypocrite. That's not what this was! It was me calling him out for being a prick to everyone ALL THE TIME! Am I a prick to everyone ALL THE TIME? Unless I'm a bad judge of my own character, I don't believe that I am.

I'm normally a very light-hearted guy who loves to joke around and make people smile. Now tell me if I'm missing something here.

[hoagiepete]

While a bit too gassed to read all the posts word for word...as they have been a bit wordy...i've got to side with GI Jim on this debate. Point...Jim.

[G.I.Jim]

Okay Blueskies, maybe this is why I thought you've been talking to ME about the word "Prick"...

Here's your direct quote from 2 pages ago.

"LOL! Hey, Jim...looks like TNC is rubbing off on you. You criticise him for doing it and then go on to call him a "prick' , an " uptight ass*ole" and tell him to inject things into his body. "

So I don't know WHY I would think that you're talking to me? Maybe if you call out someone by name instead of just generalizing your posts, I would have known the difference! I guess if you're not talking to me, then I can excuse myself from this conversation. Have a great night!

[Blueskies]

Yes, you are missing something here. Start by slowing down and reading what I just wrote in my last post before this one....then go back and review the last couple pages if you want to find out. You are not the focus here in this discussion.
...and today when I answered to Trees post it was to address ALL who criticise some on what they do themselves. It sure wasn't addressed to you individually and it sure didn't have your name in there anywhere.

[Blueskies]

Okay Blueskies, maybe this is why I thought you've been talking to ME about the word "Prick"...

Here's your direct quote from 2 pages ago.

"LOL! Hey, Jim...looks like TNC is rubbing off on you. You criticise him for doing it and then go on to call him a "prick' , an " uptight ass*ole" and tell him to inject things into his body. "

So I don't know WHY I would think that you're talking to me? Maybe if you call out someone by name instead of just generalizing your posts, I would have known the difference! I guess if you're not talking to me, then I can excuse myself from this conversation. Have a great night!

Are you blushing now? I bet you are!

I wasn't calling any single person out in that post and generalized for exactly this reason....so no one would get their panties in a bunch about it and to try to make my point with at least a semblance of civility.

[G.I.Jim]

Okay Blueskies, maybe this is why I thought you've been talking to ME about the word "Prick"...

Here's your direct quote from 2 pages ago.

"LOL! Hey, Jim...looks like TNC is rubbing off on you. You criticise him for doing it and then go on to call him a "prick' , an " uptight ass*ole" and tell him to inject things into his body. "

So I don't know WHY I would think that you're talking to me? Maybe if you call out someone by name instead of just generalizing your posts, I would have known the difference! I guess if you're not talking to me, then I can excuse myself from this conversation. Have a great night!

Are you blushing now? I bet you are!

I wasn't calling any single person out in that post and generalized for exactly this reason....so no one would get their panties in a bunch about it and to try to make my point with at least a semblance of civility.

Well I now know you're full of crap! Your last post said that you weren't referring to me. Now you say you were, but you didn't want to call me out, so I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch? How about if you have a beef with someone, just call them out by name so they know who you're talking to, and that way you can leave everyone else out of it.

I'm done with you and this conversation. I feel like having a debate with you just has the conversation going round and round in circles, and you make no damn sense. I feel like my IQ just dropped 20 points after this conversation, and now I don't even remember what day it is!

[Blueskies]

Now...Jim....you asked me why I didn't get in on the topic that was being debated in this thread a few pages back.
The topic was about Obama, the professor and the cop. I didn't discuss it because I saw it as a non-issue...a bunch of hoopla over nothing. All involved jumped to assumptions too quickly without knowing facts...the police, the professor and the President...IMO. All were wrong...the police for jailing someone whose home it was and who was not an intruder in it...the professor for getting overly defensive and jumping to the conclusion that he was being profiled...and the President for jumping to conclusions and reacting by comment when he shouldn't have in defense of a friend without knowing all the facts. I didn't follow the story and investigate it completely....so maybe there is something more to one's side or another but as I saw it...it was much ado about nothing...just assumptions jumped to and misunderstandings by all.,,,so there was nothing to debate about the issue, imo.

One thing that came out of the whole thing that I learned was....
Obama drinks Bud Light
The cop drinks Sam Adams
The teacher drinks Blue Moon
and Biden drinks a non-alcoholic brand that I can't recall.

[G.I.Jim]

Okay Blueskies, maybe this is why I thought you've been talking to ME about the word "Prick"...

Here's your direct quote from 2 pages ago.

"LOL! Hey, Jim...looks like TNC is rubbing off on you. You criticise him for doing it and then go on to call him a "prick' , an " uptight ass*ole" and tell him to inject things into his body. "

So I don't know WHY I would think that you're talking to me? Maybe if you call out someone by name instead of just generalizing your posts, I would have known the difference! I guess if you're not talking to me, then I can excuse myself from this conversation. Have a great night!

Are you blushing now? I bet you are!

I wasn't calling any single person out in that post and generalized for exactly this reason....so no one would get their panties in a bunch about it and to try to make my point with at least a semblance of civility.

You know what... I just re-read your post. I thought you were saying that I should be blushing for saying that to him. I totally missread what you said, and I appologize. I see now that you were saying it wasn't me. I do stand by what I said about posting though...you had already called me out for calling TNC a "prick", so without you calling someone by name, of COURSE I thought you were referring to me! Next time, call someone out by name, and all of this confusion would go away.

[Blueskies]

Okay Blueskies, maybe this is why I thought you've been talking to ME about the word "Prick"...

Here's your direct quote from 2 pages ago.

"LOL! Hey, Jim...looks like TNC is rubbing off on you. You criticise him for doing it and then go on to call him a "prick' , an " uptight ass*ole" and tell him to inject things into his body. "

So I don't know WHY I would think that you're talking to me? Maybe if you call out someone by name instead of just generalizing your posts, I would have known the difference! I guess if you're not talking to me, then I can excuse myself from this conversation. Have a great night!

Are you blushing now? I bet you are!

I wasn't calling any single person out in that post and generalized for exactly this reason....so no one would get their panties in a bunch about it and to try to make my point with at least a semblance of civility.

Well I now know you're full of crap! Your last post said that you weren't referring to me. Now you say you were, but you didn't want to call me out, so I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch? How about if you have a beef with someone, just call them out by name so they know who you're talking to, and that way you can leave everyone else out of it.

I'm done with you and this conversation. I feel like having a debate with you just has the conversation going round and round in circles, and you make no damn sense. I feel like my IQ just dropped 20 points after this conversation, and now I don't even remember what day it is!

Sorry, Jimbo but you are coming across as either drunk or a complete moron and very paranoid. Again...where did I name you or say that I was referring to you and you alone?
A generalized point means exactly that...to GENERALIZE thereby not referring to any one individual but to talk about a topic in general terms in regards to all, meaning all who may read and relate to what is said. YOU are the one who is seeing yourself in what I wrote....I didn't name you..didn't refer to you. Get a grip! maybe you would be better off to stop now before you start seeing yourself floating around the room youre in too. Sorry,,,I know you're a guy...but this time it's not all about you! :

[G.I.Jim]

Okay Blueskies, maybe this is why I thought you've been talking to ME about the word "Prick"...

Here's your direct quote from 2 pages ago.

"LOL! Hey, Jim...looks like TNC is rubbing off on you. You criticise him for doing it and then go on to call him a "prick' , an " uptight ass*ole" and tell him to inject things into his body. "

So I don't know WHY I would think that you're talking to me? Maybe if you call out someone by name instead of just generalizing your posts, I would have known the difference! I guess if you're not talking to me, then I can excuse myself from this conversation. Have a great night!

Are you blushing now? I bet you are!

I wasn't calling any single person out in that post and generalized for exactly this reason....so no one would get their panties in a bunch about it and to try to make my point with at least a semblance of civility.

Well I now know you're full of crap! Your last post said that you weren't referring to me. Now you say you were, but you didn't want to call me out, so I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch? How about if you have a beef with someone, just call them out by name so they know who you're talking to, and that way you can leave everyone else out of it.

I'm done with you and this conversation. I feel like having a debate with you just has the conversation going round and round in circles, and you make no damn sense. I feel like my IQ just dropped 20 points after this conversation, and now I don't even remember what day it is!

Sorry, Jimbo but you are coming across as either drunk or a complete moron and very paranoid. Again...where did I name you or say that I was referring to you and you alone?
A generalized point means exactly that...to GENERALIZE thereby not referring to any one individual but to talk about a topic in general terms in regards to all, meaning all who may read and relate to what is said. YOU are the one who is seeing yourself in what I wrote....I didn't name you..didn't refer to you. Get a grip! maybe you would be better off to stop now before you start seeing yourself floating around the room youre in too. Sorry,,,I know you're a guy...but this time it's not all about you! :

Alright, then SOMEONE on this site is a CRAZY ASS BITCH!!! I'm not referring to anyone in particular, just making a generalized statement so I don't offend anyone.

[Blueskies]

Okay Blueskies, maybe this is why I thought you've been talking to ME about the word "Prick"...

Here's your direct quote from 2 pages ago.

"LOL! Hey, Jim...looks like TNC is rubbing off on you. You criticise him for doing it and then go on to call him a "prick' , an " uptight ass*ole" and tell him to inject things into his body. "

So I don't know WHY I would think that you're talking to me? Maybe if you call out someone by name instead of just generalizing your posts, I would have known the difference! I guess if you're not talking to me, then I can excuse myself from this conversation. Have a great night!

Are you blushing now? I bet you are!

I wasn't calling any single person out in that post and generalized for exactly this reason....so no one would get their panties in a bunch about it and to try to make my point with at least a semblance of civility.

You know what... I just re-read your post. I thought you were saying that I should be blushing for saying that to him. I totally missread what you said, and I appologize. I see now that you were saying it wasn't me. I do stand by what I said about posting though...you had already called me out for calling TNC a "prick", so without you calling someone by name, of COURSE I thought you were referring to me! Next time, call someone out by name, and all of this confusion would go away.

Ahhhhhhhhhh!...FINALLY HE SEES THE LIGHT! ...Hey, Jim...you ever watch "This Old House" or "The New Yankee Workshop"? Have you heard Norm say " measure twice and cut once"? for this boards purposes he would say " read twice before responding".

[Blueskies]

Okay Blueskies, maybe this is why I thought you've been talking to ME about the word "Prick"...

Here's your direct quote from 2 pages ago.

"LOL! Hey, Jim...looks like TNC is rubbing off on you. You criticise him for doing it and then go on to call him a "prick' , an " uptight ass*ole" and tell him to inject things into his body. "

So I don't know WHY I would think that you're talking to me? Maybe if you call out someone by name instead of just generalizing your posts, I would have known the difference! I guess if you're not talking to me, then I can excuse myself from this conversation. Have a great night!

Are you blushing now? I bet you are!

I wasn't calling any single person out in that post and generalized for exactly this reason....so no one would get their panties in a bunch about it and to try to make my point with at least a semblance of civility.

Well I now know you're full of crap! Your last post said that you weren't referring to me. Now you say you were, but you didn't want to call me out, so I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch? How about if you have a beef with someone, just call them out by name so they know who you're talking to, and that way you can leave everyone else out of it.

I'm done with you and this conversation. I feel like having a debate with you just has the conversation going round and round in circles, and you make no damn sense. I feel like my IQ just dropped 20 points after this conversation, and now I don't even remember what day it is!

Sorry, Jimbo but you are coming across as either drunk or a complete moron and very paranoid. Again...where did I name you or say that I was referring to you and you alone?
A generalized point means exactly that...to GENERALIZE thereby not referring to any one individual but to talk about a topic in general terms in regards to all, meaning all who may read and relate to what is said. YOU are the one who is seeing yourself in what I wrote....I didn't name you..didn't refer to you. Get a grip! maybe you would be better off to stop now before you start seeing yourself floating around the room youre in too. Sorry,,,I know you're a guy...but this time it's not all about you! :

Alright, then SOMEONE on this site is a CRAZY ASS BITCH!!! I'm not referring to anyone in particular, just making a generalized statement so I don't offend anyone.

Well, I wouldn't go as far as calling you that on my own accord, ( although you've made me think it tonight) but okay if thats what you would like to be called now instead of Alice... Hello, crazy ass bitch!
...sorry if I offended ya at anytime Mz. crazy ass bitch.

[Jubilee]

[G.I.Jim]

[Blueskies]

Ahhhh...so I was right..you are drinking!
Either that or you're trying to cover up for your temporary ( I hope) insanity!

We all now know what the Prez and Vice Prez drinks...what are you drinking?

[separate_wayz]

[Michigan Girl]

Alright, then SOMEONE on this site is a CRAZY ASS BITCH!!! I'm not referring to anyone in particular, just making a generalized statement so I don't offend anyone.

I am LMAO!!!!
not at anyone in particular just in general!!!

[Deacon]

In before we get the "RASMUSSEN ISN'T RELIABLE!!!1!11" crap.

[Rockindeano]

Fools fools fools...

Have NO idea where you get your polling jollies from, but if it feels good I guess enjoy the moment, even though it's not correct.


Here are the real numbers, taken from Realclearpolitics.com-

RCP Average 7/19 - 7/31 -- 54.1 39.0 +15.1
Gallup 7/29 - 7/31 1547 A 56 38 +18
Rasmussen Reports 7/29 - 7/31 1500 LV 50 49 +1
Time 7/27 - 7/28 1002 A 56 38 +18
CBS News/NY Times 7/24 - 7/28 1050 A 58 30 +28
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/24 - 7/27 1011 A 53 40 +13
Pew Research 7/22 - 7/26 1506 A 54 34 +20
NPR 7/22 - 7/26 850 LV 53 42 +11
GWU/Battleground 7/19 - 7/23 1000 LV 53 42 +11
FOX News 7/21 - 7/22 900 RV 54 38 +16

Again, for the upteenth time, I will ask you dolts, you really want an election against Obama now? You'll lose convincingly. I don't care if you put Jesus fucking Christ on the ballot, you'll lose.

How is life in exile treating ya's?

[Deacon]

Is that the overall approval rating or strongly approve/disapprove rating?

[Rockindeano]

Is that the overall approval rating or strongly approve/disapprove rating?

It's an average of sample polling, done with methodology, the true consistent view and realism of what is really thought of out there in America's electorate. The Rasmussen shit is just that- shit. It's a republican polling firm asking conservatives what they think. Surprise! Cons don't view o very well. Obama's honeymoon is history, his numbers slid back to reality, but overall, the guy enjoys huge likability numbers and the fact he is taking on so much policy change, IMO, too much at once, speaks volumes, positive volumes for him.

[Rockindeano]

It also seems, to the detriment of you Cons(90% of this board), that the country thinks we are on the wrong track less than they did 2 weeks ago, and more less than a month ago, and so on.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latestpolls/


America is getting it's country back. FINALLY.

[Deacon]

Is that the overall approval rating or strongly approve/disapprove rating?

It's an average of sample polling, done with methodology, the true consistent view and realism of what is really thought of out there in America's electorate. The Rasmussen shit is just that- shit. It's a republican polling firm asking conservatives what they think. Surprise! Cons don't view o very well. Obama's honeymoon is history, his numbers slid back to reality, but overall, the guy enjoys huge likability numbers and the fact he is taking on so much policy change, IMO, too much at once, speaks volumes, positive volumes for him.

You do understand that the Rasmussen poll in the pic was the strongly approve/disapprove, correct?

[Rockindeano]

Is that the overall approval rating or strongly approve/disapprove rating?

It's an average of sample polling, done with methodology, the true consistent view and realism of what is really thought of out there in America's electorate. The Rasmussen shit is just that- shit. It's a republican polling firm asking conservatives what they think. Surprise! Cons don't view o very well. Obama's honeymoon is history, his numbers slid back to reality, but overall, the guy enjoys huge likability numbers and the fact he is taking on so much policy change, IMO, too much at once, speaks volumes, positive volumes for him.

You do understand that the Rasmussen poll in the pic was the strongly approve/disapprove, correct?

Dickless, no shit. I just explained to you exactly that, hence the ridiculousness of said poll. Rasmussen is garbage.

[Deacon]

Dickless, no shit. I just explained to you exactly that, hence the ridiculousness of said poll. Rasmussen is garbage.

Calm down, bud. You proceeded on an anti-Rasmussen rant, which didn't clearly describe anything except your hatred.

Edited out the question. It was arbitrary.

Mind you, I don't subscribe to polling information. It's a bunch of gobbledygook mashed together to make it look something it's not, IMHO.

[Rockindeano]

Mind you, I don't subscribe to polling information. It's a bunch of gobbledygook mashed together to make it look something it's not, IMHO.

And that's exactly why you are a punk assed kid with his fly open. Polling is very accurate, when done correctly. Look up the word methodology. Rasmussen obviously doesn't, hence his polls show the republicans winning last election. lol. What a dickless sack of crap he his. He doesn't care. He pulls at the heartstrings of conservatives, getting their hopes up, when there is zero chance of them winning squat. All of this and of course Fox news subsidizes his polling. REAL polling is damned accurate and has methodology based construction. The are never wrong.

[Deacon]

Mind you, I don't subscribe to polling information. It's a bunch of gobbledygook mashed together to make it look something it's not, IMHO.

And that's exactly why you are a punk assed kid with his fly open. Polling is very accurate, when done correctly. Look up the word methodology. Rasmussen obviously doesn't, hence his polls show the republicans winning last election. lol. What a dickless sack of crap he his. He doesn't care. He pulls at the heartstrings of conservatives, getting their hopes up, when there is zero chance of them winning squat. All of this and of course Fox news subsidizes his polling. REAL polling is damned accurate and has methodology based construction. The are never wrong.

That's all you had to say, what I've emboldened. I stopped subscribing to the polling information because I don't think that it was completed accurately during the election season.

[Rockindeano]

Mind you, I don't subscribe to polling information. It's a bunch of gobbledygook mashed together to make it look something it's not, IMHO.

And that's exactly why you are a punk assed kid with his fly open. Polling is very accurate, when done correctly. Look up the word methodology. Rasmussen obviously doesn't, hence his polls show the republicans winning last election. lol. What a dickless sack of crap he his. He doesn't care. He pulls at the heartstrings of conservatives, getting their hopes up, when there is zero chance of them winning squat. All of this and of course Fox news subsidizes his polling. REAL polling is damned accurate and has methodology based construction. The are never wrong.

That's all you had to say, what I've emboldened. I stopped subscribing to the polling information because I don't think that it was completed accurately during the election season.

Fuck, Wyatt, my 1 yr old at the time muttered the words, "O in landslide dadda." Hell, Ray Charles could see this train comin.'