Perry Tribute Site Bites The Dust

[perryfaithful]

I don't want to rehash all the bad that this woman has done I could go on for a mile and half with stuff but to get members who became very good friends to hate each other all because she would log into people accounts and read their personal messages and then answer them as that member is not someone who is a fan but a hateful person. She did it to me many times over when I was a member there long ago. When members openly questioned why their passwords were not working and that they had to change them over and over the answer always was....the host forum is having problems with this; we are not the only board with this issue. Because of this one action those many members no longer will support Steve Perry or Journey and will never join anything Journey or Steve Perry related. I lost some great friends because of this. What an awful thing for a Steve Perry fan to do but turn his own fans to no longer support him and to hate each other. The woman needs to atone for her hateful actions.

I guess getting fans to hate each other is unbelievable dedication......oh please.....

Happened to me also, the old "password does not work, giving you a new one" scam

[CatEyes]

That Make a Wish Foundation scam has been running for WWAAYAYY more than a couple of years. Tell your friend to dig deep.

Tell your friend to pm me here.

I have been dealing with Kathy since around 2002 - a friend of mine and I even bought the place back for her.

The site host banned her for all of her coniving and general all around crap - however, we wanted to maintain the site for the members. So I took over as administrator.

We caught Kathy in the Make-A-Wish scam back then.

Finally got sick of her crap and her fooling everyone, hiding behind God, the Flag and Steve Perry.

So I left and started another site. She thru out all of the members then and closed the place down. Most of them came to our new site.

When I got sick I turned that over to my mods and admin.

She then re-opened the place "locked" - no lurking.

She has used the money from the sale of tapes vids and everything else for her personal stuff from day one.

Cat

[Rockindeano]

Cat, you 100% sure about all that? I don't disagree with you at all, for I do not know.

Kathy is a registered member here- I wonder if she will take up the fight and come in here and try to clear name.

[nolippin]

The people who have proof of the amount donated through PV need to turn over the info to MAWF. They may be in a better position to prosecute her as she stole from them and the people who donated to PV in good faith.

I remember MAWF reporting to someone the amount donated and it was much less than what mempbers at PV had donated.

She donates enough to generate a thank you letter from MAWF.

That Make a Wish Foundation scam has been running for WWAAYAYY more than a couple of years. Tell your friend to dig deep.

Tell your friend to pm me here.

I have been dealing with Kathy since around 2002 - a friend of mine and I even bought the place back for her.

The site host banned her for all of her coniving and general all around crap - however, we wanted to maintain the site for the members. So I took over as administrator.

We caught Kathy in the Make-A-Wish scam back then.

Finally got sick of her crap and her fooling everyone, hiding behind God, the Flag and Steve Perry.

So I left and started another site. She thru out all of the members then and closed the place down. Most of them came to our new site.

When I got sick I turned that over to my mods and admin.

She then re-opened the place "locked" - no lurking.

She has used the money from the sale of tapes vids and everything else for her personal stuff from day one.

Cat

[perryswoman]

That Make a Wish Foundation scam has been running for WWAAYAYY more than a couple of years. Tell your friend to dig deep.

Tell your friend to pm me here.

I have been dealing with Kathy since around 2002 - a friend of mine and I even bought the place back for her.

The site host banned her for all of her coniving and general all around crap - however, we wanted to maintain the site for the members. So I took over as administrator.

We caught Kathy in the Make-A-Wish scam back then.

Finally got sick of her crap and her fooling everyone, hiding behind God, the Flag and Steve Perry.

So I left and started another site. She thru out all of the members then and closed the place down. Most of them came to our new site.

When I got sick I turned that over to my mods and admin.

She then re-opened the place "locked" - no lurking.

She has used the money from the sale of tapes vids and everything else for her personal stuff from day one.

Cat

Why is this girl not in jail? Someome needs to do something to this low life!!

[Marabelle]

I'm dumbfounded. If this was discovered a few years ago, why wasn't it reported. I'm not casting blame but it seems to me that a lot more money would not have been diverted to places we really know nothing about. A good deed turned into something tragic and it kept getting worse and people lost alot of money. I'm really sickened by what happened and if this is true I think that something immediately needs to be done; not just to the owner (Kathy) but all her croonies who assisted in perpetrating this scan for all those years. I don't think coming here and bemoaning the fact isn't doing any body any good; it's a waste of time and just magnifies a problem rather than seeking a remedy. Enough is enough. Somebody should do something other than allowing this thing to fester and re-appear under another name at another site with the same situation in a few more weeks.

[perryswoman]

I'm dumbfounded. If this was discovered a few years ago, why wasn't it reported. I'm not casting blame but it seems to me that a lot more money would not have been diverted to places we really know nothing about. A good deed turned into something tragic and it kept getting worse and people lost alot of money. I'm really sickened by what happened and if this is true I think that something immediately needs to be done; not just to the owner (Kathy) but all her croonies who assisted in perpetrating this scan for all those years. I don't think coming here and bemoaning the fact isn't doing any body any good; it's a waste of time and just magnifies a problem rather than seeking a remedy. Enough is enough. Somebody should do something other than allowing this thing to fester and re-appear under another name at another site with the same situation in a few more weeks.

This is so true!! What about all of the people that still don't know and still donating? This is sick and she should be prosecuted immediately!!

[Playitloudforme]

Question out to the few lawyers I know we have out there:

Is this a class-action lawsuit? Many many many people against one entity... Is that the definition? I agree, enough is enough, but it will take those who were involved to make the decision to pursue legal action against her. They would have to be the ones to have her arrested for misappropriation of funds. Let's hope.

[nolippin]

I believe that MAWF could actually bring charges against her.

Question out to the few lawyers I know we have out there:

Is this a class-action lawsuit? Many many many people against one entity... Is that the definition? I agree, enough is enough, but it will take those who were involved to make the decision to pursue legal action against her. They would have to be the ones to have her arrested for misappropriation of funds. Let's hope.

[perryfaithful]

Cat, you 100% sure about all that? I don't disagree with you at all, for I do not know.

Kathy is a registered member here- I wonder if she will take up the fight and come in here and try to clear name.

and as I remember, she has shown up on occasion

[perryfaithful]

That Make a Wish Foundation scam has been running for WWAAYAYY more than a couple of years. Tell your friend to dig deep.

Tell your friend to pm me here.

I have been dealing with Kathy since around 2002 - a friend of mine and I even bought the place back for her.

The site host banned her for all of her coniving and general all around crap - however, we wanted to maintain the site for the members. So I took over as administrator.

We caught Kathy in the Make-A-Wish scam back then.

Finally got sick of her crap and her fooling everyone, hiding behind God, the Flag and Steve Perry.

So I left and started another site. She thru out all of the members then and closed the place down. Most of them came to our new site.

When I got sick I turned that over to my mods and admin.

She then re-opened the place "locked" - no lurking.

She has used the money from the sale of tapes vids and everything else for her personal stuff from day one.

Cat

Cat, is your old site still around?

I traveled to the spin offs for a short time, finally swearing off Perry forums. Too much weirdness, though I met some great REAL ladies along the way and went to keeping in touch by email only. I never participated in donations for charities thru Kathy, though I bought some Perry/Journey stuff without problem. She had a partner back then, a girl from Texas, can't remember her name. May have been a nasty split there as well

[bluejeangirl76]

Question out to the few lawyers I know we have out there:

Is this a class-action lawsuit? Many many many people against one entity... Is that the definition? I agree, enough is enough, but it will take those who were involved to make the decision to pursue legal action against her. They would have to be the ones to have her arrested for misappropriation of funds. Let's hope.

I believe that MAWF could actually bring charges against her.

Problem would be getting everyone to be able to show hard proof of exactly how much (each) donated each time this was done. If this was via check or paypal, no problem, but every single participant would have to be rounded up to show proof, I would think. If that happened - or at least if enough people were able to prove donations adding up to more than what MAWF received, then yeah, someone would have some serious 'splaining to do.

Let's just say MAWF received a donation of $1000.

So, say 40 people claim to have donated $50 each. That's $2000.

You'd need all of those people to be able to come up with a cancelled check or a printed paypal transaction, or money order carbon. If we're talking a few years back, then what are the odds that all of the members will still have those things?

Would be nice those who sent money to that site for any reason at anytime all got together to compare notes. Charges to belong to a message board hosted on something called "freeservers", what sounds like questionable donation practices, sales for merchandise not received... lots of shady things reported in this thread. I dunno - I didn't take part in all that, but for those that did and IF they lost $, I feel bad.

[CatEyes]

Cat, you 100% sure about all that? I don't disagree with you at all, for I do not know.

Kathy is a registered member here- I wonder if she will take up the fight and come in here and try to clear name.

Deano

My friend and I were the one pulling her ass from the fire constantly. My friend paid for the site for a couple of years and I took over the admin duties when the missing money became and issue - she finally admitted it to us.

We brought the site back when it was taken over by the folks from PerryTales - they had been mods - We sent them cash to get the rights to the site back so the members wouldn't be left out in the cold.

Of course shortly after that, in retaliation, Kathy hacked into their site and brought it down.

The host net work closed PV since Kathy was still listed with them as the owner. After a couple of days of negotiations and a written apoplogy from Kathy, copies of cancelled checks from us the host let us open back up however banned Kathy.

She has a hundred scams running at anyone time. It was tough to stay ahead of her. we did allow her to post under an alias however, she was still causing crap.

When I could not stand the sight of her name any more I stepped down as admin and started distancing myself. I finally opened up another forum (not to steal her members, even tho that is what she will swear to) My friend told Kathy that she would no longer pay for the site. Kathy rplied "Just use the MAW funds"

Since she could not find anyone to pay for her site right away - she started locking members out and closing down over a two-day period - historically she likes the drama that way.

Most of the members came to my new forum.

When I got sick, I turned that forum over to the people who had been the mods and admins .

Yes deano. I swear it is all true.

Cat

[perryswoman]

Question out to the few lawyers I know we have out there:

Is this a class-action lawsuit? Many many many people against one entity... Is that the definition? I agree, enough is enough, but it will take those who were involved to make the decision to pursue legal action against her. They would have to be the ones to have her arrested for misappropriation of funds. Let's hope.

I believe that MAWF could actually bring charges against her.

Problem would be getting everyone to be able to show hard proof of exactly how much (each) donated each time this was done. If this was via check or paypal, no problem, but every single participant would have to be rounded up to show proof, I would think. If that happened - or at least if enough people were able to prove donations adding up to more than what MAWF received, then yeah, someone would have some serious 'splaining to do.

Let's just say MAWF received a donation of $1000.

So, say 40 people claim to have donated $50 each. That's $2000.

You'd need all of those people to be able to come up with a cancelled check or a printed paypal transaction, or money order carbon. If we're talking a few years back, then what are the odds that all of the members will still have those things?

Would be nice those who sent money to that site for any reason at anytime all got together to compare notes. Charges to belong to a message board hosted on something called "freeservers", what sounds like questionable donation practices, sales for merchandise not received... lots of shady things reported in this thread. I dunno - I didn't take part in all that, but for those that did and IF they lost $, I feel bad.

I am sure over several years it is probably a shit load of money not donated and someone needs their butt prosecuted. If enough people get wind of it and get together I am sure they can start the process and just 1 complaint to the US attorneys office would start some investigating. With everyone who reads this board, that has probably already happened or will very soon.

[CatEyes]

I'm dumbfounded. If this was discovered a few years ago, why wasn't it reported. I'm not casting blame but it seems to me that a lot more money would not have been diverted to places we really know nothing about. A good deed turned into something tragic and it kept getting worse and people lost alot of money. I'm really sickened by what happened and if this is true I think that something immediately needs to be done; not just to the owner (Kathy) but all her croonies who assisted in perpetrating this scan for all those years. I don't think coming here and bemoaning the fact isn't doing any body any good; it's a waste of time and just magnifies a problem rather than seeking a remedy. Enough is enough. Somebody should do something other than allowing this thing to fester and re-appear under another name at another site with the same situation in a few more weeks.

Oh crap - I told everryone I could - but Kathy was really good as I said at hiding behind God the Flag and Steve Perry. She had people fooled enough that they would stand and fight for her.

We warned people and Kathy would tell them that we were just upset because she banned us. - crap she did not ban us -

Cat

[journeygirl]

I don't know if this will help any, but as I stated in an previous post, that I have worked for The Make A Wish Foundation. So I called up an old friend who is still there. He said that if anyone suspects fraud with MAWF then they should contact the Home Office in Phoenix AZ. Sadly though he also said that there is a big scamm right now from several different internet sites that are under investigation. He also told me that they are prosecuting these people to the fullest extent of the law. So if someone has evidence of any wrong doing they should come forward and call the home office or you can contact me and I have the number.

[nolippin]

Well, there ya go. I would think that a notarized statement to MAWF from the people she told to use the MAW funds, the people who donated and/or witnessed what was going on would be enough to sink her ship.

Most people when they donate to charities keep the receipts as it can be a tax deduction. Tax records should be kept for at least 5 years, so it shouldn't be too hard to dig up those receipts.

I don't know if this will help any, but as I stated in an previous post, that I have worked for The Make A Wish Foundation. So I called up an old friend who is still there. He said that if anyone suspects fraud with MAWF then they should contact the Home Office in Phoenix AZ. Sadly though he also said that there is a big scamm right now from several different internet sites that are under investigation. He also told me that they are prosecuting these people to the fullest extent of the law. So if someone has evidence of any wrong doing they should come forward and call the home office or you can contact me and I have the number.

[Rockindeano]

Cat, you 100% sure about all that? I don't disagree with you at all, for I do not know.

Kathy is a registered member here- I wonder if she will take up the fight and come in here and try to clear name.

Deano

My friend and I were the one pulling her ass from the fire constantly. My friend paid for the site for a couple of years and I took over the admin duties when the missing money became and issue - she finally admitted it to us.

We brought the site back when it was taken over by the folks from PerryTales - they had been mods - We sent them cash to get the rights to the site back so the members wouldn't be left out in the cold.

Of course shortly after that, in retaliation, Kathy hacked into their site and brought it down.

The host net work closed PV since Kathy was still listed with them as the owner. After a couple of days of negotiations and a written apoplogy from Kathy, copies of cancelled checks from us the host let us open back up however banned Kathy.

She has a hundred scams running at anyone time. It was tough to stay ahead of her. we did allow her to post under an alias however, she was still causing crap.

When I could not stand the sight of her name any more I stepped down as admin and started distancing myself. I finally opened up another forum (not to steal her members, even tho that is what she will swear to) My friend told Kathy that she would no longer pay for the site. Kathy rplied "Just use the MAW funds"

Since she could not find anyone to pay for her site right away - she started locking members out and closing down over a two-day period - historically she likes the drama that way.

Most of the members came to my new forum.

When I got sick, I turned that forum over to the people who had been the mods and admins .

Yes deano. I swear it is all true.

Cat

Well that's pretty convincing. I never said you were lying, just wanting to make sure.

I guess we won't be seeing her name popping up here to defend herself.

Thanks for the info.

I remember her LOVING me during Tapegate. She pleaded and begged me to come over to her site- now remember, the Loons hated my ass, and rightfully so, but they hated Augeri and Journey, most notably Schon more. At that time, as everyone knows, I was battling daily, and she recruited me big time. I think I made a couple posts and that was it.

[tammy]

Cat, you 100% sure about all that? I don't disagree with you at all, for I do not know.

Kathy is a registered member here- I wonder if she will take up the fight and come in here and try to clear name.

Deano

My friend and I were the one pulling her ass from the fire constantly. My friend paid for the site for a couple of years and I took over the admin duties when the missing money became and issue - she finally admitted it to us.

We brought the site back when it was taken over by the folks from PerryTales - they had been mods - We sent them cash to get the rights to the site back so the members wouldn't be left out in the cold.

Of course shortly after that, in retaliation, Kathy hacked into their site and brought it down.

The host net work closed PV since Kathy was still listed with them as the owner. After a couple of days of negotiations and a written apoplogy from Kathy, copies of cancelled checks from us the host let us open back up however banned Kathy.

She has a hundred scams running at anyone time. It was tough to stay ahead of her. we did allow her to post under an alias however, she was still causing crap.

When I could not stand the sight of her name any more I stepped down as admin and started distancing myself. I finally opened up another forum (not to steal her members, even tho that is what she will swear to) My friend told Kathy that she would no longer pay for the site. Kathy rplied "Just use the MAW funds"

Since she could not find anyone to pay for her site right away - she started locking members out and closing down over a two-day period - historically she likes the drama that way.

Most of the members came to my new forum.

When I got sick, I turned that forum over to the people who had been the mods and admins .

Yes deano. I swear it is all true.

Cat

Holy crap! Had no idea she was really THAT messed up. Sick! She needs to be nailed for this shit.

[Laydee]

You know I never understood (until now that is), why Kathy was charging for her forum. It was through FourmCo, which I used to have a board up with the same company, and there never was a fee for the forum. It was free. Since I have the website up now, and there is a monthly fee for hosting plus an annual domain fee, but I would never charge anyone to come to my site or join my forum. I do have a new SP forum up now, but it's free as well. I know Kathy would contact me and say I was stealing her shit and putting it on my site and I was using it to make my videos. But it's like I told her, my images comes from the internet for the most part and I get alot of pictures given to me to use on my site by fans. If anyone submits a pic to my site, they get credit for it. And I try to not post marked photos and if I do I give credit where credit is due. It's only fair. The last time Kathy contacted me she wanted to know why I did not have PV listed in my link page. I simply told her I did not want to be associated with her site, not because she was stealing or anything like that, I just didn't like her as a person. She tried to tell me that my site would never amount to anything, well, my site is doing very well thank you and look where she is right now! So I guess I had the last laugh in that one.

[Matthew]

I remember her LOVING me during Tapegate. She pleaded and begged me to come over to her site- now remember, the Loons hated my ass, and rightfully so, but they hated Augeri and Journey, most notably Schon more. At that time, as everyone knows, I was battling daily, and she recruited me big time. I think I made a couple posts and that was it.

I was on Perryville at that time and it's true: we all greeted you like a conquering hero....

[WykkedSensation]

I feel sure there are alot better sites with most of what she had.Just look and you may find it.You sound like a big fan of Kathy's.And i am not trying to start anything when i say that.

Name one...

www.fortheloveofsteveperry.com

Thanks...I'll check that out...

http://arrivealive.proboards.com/index.cgi? is THE best on the net, not just for the Perry era and solo, but ALL era's and solo's.

[artist4perry]

I remember her LOVING me during Tapegate. She pleaded and begged me to come over to her site- now remember, the Loons hated my ass, and rightfully so, but they hated Augeri and Journey, most notably Schon more. At that time, as everyone knows, I was battling daily, and she recruited me big time. I think I made a couple posts and that was it.

I was on Perryville at that time and it's true: we all greeted you like a conquering hero....

Maybe I missed a lot back then, but what the heck did Deano do to be a "hero"? I am sure his delightful bubbly personality was more than most of the loons there could mannage........I know I swoon at his very presence on this site! Loves ya you old fart!

[Don]

I googled Journey forum and came up with this place at the top of the page. There were three other sites listed on the first page but all seem to be dead. As far as forums go, it appears that we here at MR are the voices of Journey Music, now.

[portland]

I googled Journey forum and came up with this place at the top of the page. There were three other sites listed on the first page but all seem to be dead. As far as forums go, it appears that we here at MR are the voices of Journey Music, now.

Oh that's good news

[Matthew]

I remember her LOVING me during Tapegate. She pleaded and begged me to come over to her site- now remember, the Loons hated my ass, and rightfully so, but they hated Augeri and Journey, most notably Schon more. At that time, as everyone knows, I was battling daily, and she recruited me big time. I think I made a couple posts and that was it.

I was on Perryville at that time and it's true: we all greeted you like a conquering hero....

Maybe I missed a lot back then, but what the heck did Deano do to be a "hero"? I am sure his delightful bubbly personality was more than most of the loons there could mannage........I know I swoon at his very presence on this site! Loves ya you old fart!

What did he do? Seriously...you don't know?

[HERO]

Cat, you 100% sure about all that? I don't disagree with you at all, for I do not know.

Kathy is a registered member here- I wonder if she will take up the fight and come in here and try to clear name.

Deano

My friend and I were the one pulling her ass from the fire constantly. My friend paid for the site for a couple of years and I took over the admin duties when the missing money became and issue - she finally admitted it to us.

We brought the site back when it was taken over by the folks from PerryTales - they had been mods - We sent them cash to get the rights to the site back so the members wouldn't be left out in the cold.

Of course shortly after that, in retaliation, Kathy hacked into their site and brought it down.

The host net work closed PV since Kathy was still listed with them as the owner. After a couple of days of negotiations and a written apoplogy from Kathy, copies of cancelled checks from us the host let us open back up however banned Kathy.

She has a hundred scams running at anyone time. It was tough to stay ahead of her. we did allow her to post under an alias however, she was still causing crap.

When I could not stand the sight of her name any more I stepped down as admin and started distancing myself. I finally opened up another forum (not to steal her members, even tho that is what she will swear to) My friend told Kathy that she would no longer pay for the site. Kathy rplied "Just use the MAW funds"

Since she could not find anyone to pay for her site right away - she started locking members out and closing down over a two-day period - historically she likes the drama that way.

Most of the members came to my new forum.

When I got sick, I turned that forum over to the people who had been the mods and admins .

Yes deano. I swear it is all true.

Cat

I will back up everything Catseyes has written 100%. As a former member of PV I am sadly all too familiar with the actions of Kathy. I have met some really nice people at that site, and for quite a while enjoyed being a member. Yes there were rumours but the powers that be always managed to dismiss them and offer plausible explanations. Sadly any investigations always led to the same answer. Things were not as they seemed. Kathy had history. And not a favourable one. Not for the first time PM's were being read by those who were in positions of trust. Any member brave enough to mention the goings on in a post found themselves banned. Obviously Kathy didn't want word spreading, although some members did find an amusing way of registering their "disappointment" in the way they were treated, after they were banned. Alas Kathy never does seem to learn her lesson. I'm sure that it will only be a matter of time before PV is up and running again, and people will once again be duped.

[artist4perry]

I remember her LOVING me during Tapegate. She pleaded and begged me to come over to her site- now remember, the Loons hated my ass, and rightfully so, but they hated Augeri and Journey, most notably Schon more. At that time, as everyone knows, I was battling daily, and she recruited me big time. I think I made a couple posts and that was it.

I was on Perryville at that time and it's true: we all greeted you like a conquering hero....

Maybe I missed a lot back then, but what the heck did Deano do to be a "hero"? I am sure his delightful bubbly personality was more than most of the loons there could mannage........I know I swoon at his very presence on this site! Loves ya you old fart!

What did he do? Seriously...you don't know?

Nope, personally I had a life to live, and did not get on the computer much. I was busy so let me know what the little darling did for your site that was so exquisite that it has you flitting for joy.............

[bluejeangirl76]

I googled Journey forum and came up with this place at the top of the page. There were three other sites listed on the first page but all seem to be dead. As far as forums go, it appears that we here at MR are the voices of Journey Music, now.

I always seemed to find that Perry sites, specifically, don't come up in searches because they're private/unviewable. I was late in the game with all this drama that goes back years, but a lot of folks I've talked to all seemed to have at one time belonged to PV and left for this or that reason and chose to do their own thing instead, but kept the boards private because of the people they left behind and the drama that went on.

Instead of being "hey cool, this is our favorite singer, let's have fun with it and talk about it and meet people" it was a bunch of "you stole pictures from me! *BAN*" Whatever.

Then it became a trust issue... this or that person was from this or that site and might be here "SPYING!" Too much intensity and drama.

[HERO]

You know I never understood (until now that is), why Kathy was charging for her forum. It was through FourmCo, which I used to have a board up with the same company, and there never was a fee for the forum. It was free. Since I have the website up now, and there is a monthly fee for hosting plus an annual domain fee, but I would never charge anyone to come to my site or join my forum. I do have a new SP forum up now, but it's free as well. I know Kathy would contact me and say I was stealing her shit and putting it on my site and I was using it to make my videos. But it's like I told her, my images comes from the internet for the most part and I get alot of pictures given to me to use on my site by fans. If anyone submits a pic to my site, they get credit for it. And I try to not post marked photos and if I do I give credit where credit is due. It's only fair. The last time Kathy contacted me she wanted to know why I did not have PV listed in my link page. I simply told her I did not want to be associated with her site, not because she was stealing or anything like that, I just didn't like her as a person. She tried to tell me that my site would never amount to anything, well, my site is doing very well thank you and look where she is right now! So I guess I had the last laugh in that one.

Are you still accepting new members? Would you be averse to accepting a PV refugee for example?