OT: Props to President Clinton!

[Maui Tom]

Bill....you'd better let these gals come back with me or else.....that's all I got to say.

Kim....Way ahead of you....

The End

[perryswoman]

Nicely done, Sir.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

Absolutely. Bill is the man.

Stupid term limits!!

No kidding. As much as I think Hillary is a bitch I so wanted her in that White House so Bill would be in control again!! He's the man!!

[Voyager]

Nicely done, Sir.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

Absolutely. Bill is the man.

Stupid term limits!!

No kidding. As much as I think Hillary is a bitch I so wanted her in that White House so Bill would be in control again!! He's the man!!

I'm sure Obama solicits Bill's advice on a regular basis.

[slucero]

Lets wait and see just how much this costs us (I mean the the U.S., oh wait, that IS us..)

The last time we "settled" with North Korea on Clinton's watch it cost 4.1 Billion dollars... and the promise (from NK) that they wouldn't build nukes...

Kudos to President Clinton. I'm very glad for the two woman and their families. What a relief it must be for them. However, I have to agree with you that Kim Jong did not release these women out of the kindness of his heart or because he was charmed into by Bill Clinton. He wanted something from the US and I'm sure he got what he wanted. Don't you find it interesting that just a few days before our hostages in Korea were released, Iran picks up a couple more. Hmmmmm? Wonder what getting them back is going to cost us?

Who gives a shit? Those two souls doing slave labour and probably dying in that shithole country for hiking 3 meters inside NK's border is reprehensible. That is the State's job, The US' responsibility is to get them freed. They did it. We'll never know the cost. Props to the administration, and for the record, had W accomplished this with say James Baker III, I would also applaud it. This is one of those bi-partisan deals where we should all be happy, yet a few straggly assholes have popped up their collective domes in this thread questioning the feat. Unfuckingbelievable.

I am just surprised Obama sent Bill, and tha Hillary didn't go. She is after all the Secretary of State. this might prove that Kim Dong Ill wanted a political rock star over there, to be seen with a huge name, and perhaps Hillary isn't quite there yet, as Bill is. They should reroute Bill over to Iran and have him get those hikers out of there as well, and let all of them have an orgy on the way home. Bill deserves a menage trois if you ask me.

Just in case yer talking to me Deano... screw you too...

[Onestepper]

Actually there is word that it turns out that NK told the US through the Swedish government, that if they sent Billy boy, they would release them to him. Seems they have been wanting him to visit since 2000. I'm sure he had to give something, but it looks like they put it on a platter to some degree.

[Jana]

Nicely done, Sir.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

Absolutely. Bill is the man.

Stupid term limits!!

No kidding. As much as I think Hillary is a bitch I so wanted her in that White House so Bill would be in control again!! He's the man!!

I love Bill also, but make no mistake, Hillary would have been the President. After watching her go the distance in that race and the unbelieveable amount of debates she was in which showed her composure, wisdom, her platform and depth of knowledge regarding issues, I had full confidence in her to be POTUS and had my full support. Even Bill has said Hillary is smarter than him and would probably be a better president that he was. He has such a huge belief in her to be president. I can't think of another man who was president that would want his wife to shine more than he in that role, but he did. That speaks volumes about Bill Clinton. But, obviously, their true partnership and passion and knowledge of political affairs and his time as president would have been invaluable and comforting to me.

BTW, no jokes about the word "affairs."

[Rockindeano]

Actually there is word that it turns out that NK told the US through the Swedish government, that if they sent Billy boy, they would release them to him. Seems they have been wanting him to visit since 2000. I'm sure he had to give something, but it looks like they put it on a platter to some degree.

Of course this was all completed prior to BC getting the wheels up. You think he would have flown over to that shitheap of a country and been embarrassed? hell no he wouldn't.

As for some who think he acted unilaterally..please, use your fucking head. BC didn't do anything w/o Obama's permission.

[RedWingFan]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

[stevew2]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

[RedWingFan]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

[stevew2]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

So damn the 4330 american soldiers killed in Iraq ? Where Bin Laden wasnt and isnt there

[Rockindeano]

Look at stevew rise from the deck, and deliver a serious roundhouse knock out punch.

Ding ding ding, game over.

Where did you pull that out of your ass stevie boy? I am in shock.

[stevew2]

Look at stevew rise from the deck, and deliver a serious roundhouse knock out punch.

Ding ding ding, game over.

Where did you pull that out of your ass stevie boy? I am in shock.

I have my moments, few ,but i do get um

[Voyager]

Hey RedWing, I see your Obama Joker and I raise you one Dubya Joker:



As a bonus you get a Laura Bush Joker too.

[stevew2]

Hey RedWing, I see your Obama Joker and I raise you one Dubya Joker:



As a bonus you get a Laura Bush Joker too.

Her grill is purple Probably from kissin GWs ass all them years

[RedWingFan]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

So damn the 4330 american soldiers killed in Iraq ? Where Bin Laden wasnt and isnt there

I didn't say anything about Iraq. I was talking about Clinton's inaction against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden!!! Nice diversion attempt though, it might have worked against someone who was feeble minded. I'm sure you probably fell for it!!!

[slucero]

Turns out Clinton would only go over to North Korea if the "deal was done".... meaning he didn't have to negotiate shit.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_go_pr_ ... a_analysis

Analysis: Obama lets NKorea's Kim save face

WASHINGTON – The Obama administration let North Korean leader Kim Jong Il save face by releasing two jailed Americans to former President Bill Clinton. The payoff — maybe not right away — is likely to be renewed dialogue with Pyongyang about its nuclear weapons program.

After meeting with Clinton, who made an unannounced visit to the North Korean capital Tuesday, Kim pardoned and freed the young journalists who allegedly crossed into the country from China earlier this year. They were serving 12-year prison sentences.

"It could provide an opportunity to move forward on the nuclear issue, and that's not necessarily a bad thing," said Victor Cha, former Asia chief at the National Security Council. "The history with the North Koreans, as they have just done the past few months, is to put themselves out on a ledge. And they always need help getting off that ledge."

Not so fast, said Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, who had spoken with her husband after the pair was released.

She said the U.S. was not counting on a breakthrough but also said it could lubricate the way for the North to return to six-party talks about its nuclear program with the U.S., Russia, China, Japan and South Korea.

But there, perhaps, is the rub. The North Koreans have been demanding bilateral talks with Washington. The U.S., however, has shot down such overtures, insisting that it will work only through the six-party format.

North Korean behavior — ever an enigma — has included in recent months the withdrawal from those talks. The regime also launched a long-range rocket, conducted a second nuclear test, test-fired a barrage of ballistic missiles, and restarted its atomic program in defiance of international criticism and the U.N. Security Council.

Obama, while pushing heavy sanctions against the North for its recent nose-thumbing of the international community, also has been low key as he pursues a resumption of talks with the Stalinist regime.

That's been difficult because the North is widely believed to be embroiled in a succession struggle after Kim reportedly suffered a stroke and began setting up a 27-year-old son to take power. Its saber-rattling was widely believed to indicate that its military wanted to show strength as a successor is chosen.

The White House has taken pains since Clinton's arrival in Pyongyang to play the mission as a private one designed only to win the release of Laura Ling, 32, and Euna Lee, 36, both with former Vice President Al Gore's Current TV media venture. They were captured while on assignment to collect material for a report about trafficking of North Korean women into China.

Bill Clinton undertook the mission, a senior administration official said, only after the North assured the White House that the reporters would be freed and allowed to return home with the former president.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to detail the back-channel negotiations, also said the north rejected Gore as a suitable emissary. The journalists' families, Gore and the White House then turned to Clinton. The official said President Barack Obama did not speak with Clinton about the mission.

Daniel Sneider, associate director of research at Stanford University's Shorenstein Asia-Pacific Research Center, said the journalists' release followed weeks of quiet negotiations between the State Department and the North Korean mission to the United Nations.

Clinton "didn't go to negotiate this, he went to reap the fruits of the negotiation," Sneider said.

In photographs of Clinton with Kim, the former president stood somberly at the North Korean leader's side, showing no signs of warmth. The official photographs were obviously intended for domestic consumption. Clinton is highly regarded in the North and his appearance with Kim will bolster him at home.

Pardoning Ling and Lee satisfied North Korea's need to continue maintaining that the two women had committed a crime while dispatching the former president as emissary served the Obama administration's desire not to expend diplomatic capital winning their freedom, Sneider said.

"Nobody wanted this to be a distraction from the more substantially difficult issues we have with North Korea," he said. "There was a desire by the administration to resolve this quietly, and from the very beginning they didn't allow it to become a huge public issue."

As a former leader, Clinton was a good choice to represent the United States in the delicate deliberations, according to Sneider. He had the cachet to get an audience with Kim but could claim to be acting as a private citizen.

North Korean media said Clinton had carried a message of apology from Obama and that the former president and Kim held wide-ranging talks, but White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said those claims were "not true."

Still, the diplomatic minuet was a success, more so if Obama indeed cracked open the door to resume dialogue with North Korea, whose nuclear program stands to destabilize Asia and compromise Obama's promise to work toward a world free of nuclear weapons.

Just don't hold your breath.

[stevew2]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

So damn the 4330 american soldiers killed in Iraq ? Where Bin Laden wasnt and isnt there

I didn't say anything about Iraq. I was talking about Clinton's inaction against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden!!! Nice diversion attempt though, it might have worked against someone who was feeble minded. I'm sure you probably fell for it!!!

Im smarter than you think,Clintons inaction and GW going to the wrong place to find Bin Laden got the same results altough Clintons actions didnt get 4330 troops killed Einsein

[RedWingFan]

Im smarter than you think,Clintons inaction and GW going to the wrong place to find Bin Laden got the same results altough Clintons actions didnt get 4330 troops killed Einsein

You think W sent troops to Iraq to find Bin Laden????? OMG...Speechless!!!

[KDOUBLEU]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

So damn the 4330 american soldiers killed in Iraq ? Where Bin Laden wasnt and isnt there

I didn't say anything about Iraq. I was talking about Clinton's inaction against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden!!! Nice diversion attempt though, it might have worked against someone who was feeble minded. I'm sure you probably fell for it!!!

Im smarter than you think,Clintons inaction and GW going to the wrong place to find Bin Laden got the same results altough Clintons actions didnt get 4330 troops killed Einsein

Who exactly is Einsein????

[stevew2]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

So damn the 4330 american soldiers killed in Iraq ? Where Bin Laden wasnt and isnt there

I didn't say anything about Iraq. I was talking about Clinton's inaction against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden!!! Nice diversion attempt though, it might have worked against someone who was feeble minded. I'm sure you probably fell for it!!!

Im smarter than you think,Clintons inaction and GW going to the wrong place to find Bin Laden got the same results altough Clintons actions didnt get 4330 troops killed Einsein

Who exactly is Einsein????

Einstein Sheriff Andy

[KDOUBLEU]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

So damn the 4330 american soldiers killed in Iraq ? Where Bin Laden wasnt and isnt there

I didn't say anything about Iraq. I was talking about Clinton's inaction against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden!!! Nice diversion attempt though, it might have worked against someone who was feeble minded. I'm sure you probably fell for it!!!

Im smarter than you think,Clintons inaction and GW going to the wrong place to find Bin Laden got the same results altough Clintons actions didnt get 4330 troops killed Einsein

Who exactly is Einsein????

Einstein Sheriff Andy

Thanks for the correction. And its Deputy.

[stevew2]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

So damn the 4330 american soldiers killed in Iraq ? Where Bin Laden wasnt and isnt there

I didn't say anything about Iraq. I was talking about Clinton's inaction against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden!!! Nice diversion attempt though, it might have worked against someone who was feeble minded. I'm sure you probably fell for it!!!

Im smarter than you think,Clintons inaction and GW going to the wrong place to find Bin Laden got the same results altough Clintons actions didnt get 4330 troops killed Einsein

Who exactly is Einsein????

Einstein Sheriff Andy

Thanks for the correction. And its Deputy.

Ok Beinard

[KDOUBLEU]

bill clinton....one of the best presidents ever.

Damn straight, no wars,good economy,balanced budget,poor bastard will be remember more for jizzen in the White House

Let's not forget Bill prosecuting those who carried out the WTC '93 attacks. But at least we didn't get into a messy war against Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda who masterminded it that may have dropped poll numbers, huh Steve?

damn straight,iwish he could have ran a third term, he was a lot better than that last retard we had. Fucking cowboy politics dont work

So damn the 3,000 dead in 9/11 huh? That's what they get for going to work.

So damn the 4330 american soldiers killed in Iraq ? Where Bin Laden wasnt and isnt there

I didn't say anything about Iraq. I was talking about Clinton's inaction against Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden!!! Nice diversion attempt though, it might have worked against someone who was feeble minded. I'm sure you probably fell for it!!!

Im smarter than you think,Clintons inaction and GW going to the wrong place to find Bin Laden got the same results altough Clintons actions didnt get 4330 troops killed Einsein

Who exactly is Einsein????

Einstein Sheriff Andy

Thanks for the correction. And its Deputy.

Ok Beinard

I think thats Bernard

[gtrplr1960]

Clinton probably got a facial today. Took one for the team.

[G.I.Jim]

Clinton probably got a facial today. Took one for the team.

I think he took one for the COUNTRY when he married that ugly-ass woman!

[strangegrey]

Im still wondering whether or not Clinton's recent visit has more to do with the nuclear material he gave the NK's back during his presidency...and that the release of the two girls, was merely a cover for the true intent of the visit...

[hoagiepete]

Clinton had more motives than just saving the girls. You're kidding yourself if you don't believe that. Everything he does is well orchestrated.

My biggest question is...what the hell inspires these folks to get themselves in these predicaments? Especially the hikers? They can't find mountains somewhere else? This is nuts.

[Rockindeano]

Hold the phone.....some of you might need to wipe Bills jizz off of your face....can you say "STAGED?"

Of course, post a comment from the always fair and balanced Fox News paper, The NY Post.

Everyone with a fucking brain knows it was staged dumb shit. The facts of this case is the only way those girls get out of that shithole is for Bill Clinton to go there and pose for pics with Kim Jong Ill. They passed over Gore. They wanted a top political figure, a guy is beloved around the world. You think if W was to go they would release the girls? Cheney? Fuck no. They wanted to pose with BC because it makes Kim Jong look good to his own states' people. They have closed circuit TV there, and what tv they do have is of course censured, so the people think Kim and BC are buddies now.

You think BC went over there "hoping" for a release? Hell, it was already arranged before his jet was off the ground. Obama's administration, Hillary, Emanuel and Obama himself set this up, and they used BC's rock star iconism to make it happen.

Yet you need to dumb yourself down post a bogus bullshit article, and piss on the good news. You would rather them remain in NK for 12 years, and end up dying there, because you want the Dems to not enjoy a smidget of victory.

PATHETIC.

[Rockindeano]

Clinton had more motives than just saving the girls. You're kidding yourself if you don't believe that. Everything he does is well orchestrated.

My biggest question is...what the hell inspires these folks to get themselves in these predicaments? Especially the hikers? They can't find mountains somewhere else? This is nuts.

They were reporters from Al Gores news agency, doing a report nearby. There's no proof they were ever really in NK.