Perry Never Looks At The Audience???

by **Laydee** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:50 am

I was watching Journey 1983 in Japan today and I was watching Steve singing. Then I remembered that I once read where Herbie Herbert said that Perry NEVER looked at the audience. I can't remember where I read or saw that at, but I say Bullshit! You can tell he is looking out at the audience. From where I am looking he is at least. Any thoughts on this matter, anyone????

by **perryfaithful** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:08 am

Laydee wrote:I was watching Journey 1983 in Japan today and I was watching Steve singing. Then I remembered that I once read where Herbie Herbert said that Perry NEVER looked at the audience. I can't remember where I read or saw that at, but I say Bullshit! You can tell he is looking out at the audience. From where I am looking he is at least. Any thoughts on this matter, anyone????

http://members.cox.net/mrcarty/index.html

You may be remembering the Herbie Herbert interview, section 4, where he says Perry never had eye contact with the audience

by **portland** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:12 am

HH is a windbag....that's my observation :wink:

by **swataz** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:27 am

Again, I am not absolving SP or canonizing the guy, but HH came off SO BITTER in that interview, you'd have to believe that many of the things he stated as fact and truth were in large part embellished with his bile.

by **perryfaithful** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:33 am

swataz wrote:Again, I am not absolving SP or canonizing the guy, but HH came off SO BITTER in that interview, you'd have to believe that many of the things he stated as fact and truth were in large part embellished with his bile.

this interview is a topic (thread) in itself.....and has been many time over the years! I just threw it up in answer to laydees questions WHERE she might have heard someone say that Perry did not look at his audience. thought this might be the "culprit" LOL

by **journeyrock** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:44 am

That statement has GOT to be the stupidest statement HH has EVER made! And he's made some doozies over the years.

Who does he profess that connected the audiences.........Neal? :roll:

by **swataz** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:03 am

Wasn't HH quoted as describing SP as a piece of living excrement?

by **whirlwind** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:03 am

HH is about the only one who ever gave that a mention.

I loved it when he got lost in his singing and sometimes closed his eyes.

by **jrnyman28** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:33 am

It may have been a reference to the early years. Perry was described as shy an MANY an occasion. Maybe in the early performances he avoided specific eye contact...

by **donnaplease** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:51 am

jrnyman28 wrote:It may have been a reference to the early years. Perry was described as shy an MANY an occasion. Maybe in the early performances he avoided specific eye contact...

Didn't seem to be the case here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPiZpVtjHH0

by **donnaplease** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:52 am

Or here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP-yr6iWPMs

by **moangel58** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:15 am

Laydee wrote:I was watching Journey 1983 in Japan today and I was watching Steve singing. Then I remembered that I once read where Herbie Herbert said that Perry NEVER looked at the audience. I can't remember where I read or saw that at, but I say Bullshit! You can tell he is looking out at the audience. From where I am looking he is at least. Any thoughts on this matter, anyone????

Here are two reasons why you should not believe HH:

by **indigo** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:43 am

Of course he looked at the audience. Ever notice how many pictures there are of him pointing at someone.

by **Laydee** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:46 am

Well, I watched another DVD just to make sure. Nope.... he looks like he's looking at everyone in this one too. Maybe I need to watch another one.

Here is a clip from the Midnight Special that proves my point! Steve's looking at more than fans in this one! :lol:

The little devil! :twisted:

http://rapidshare.com/files/256964931/V ... WMV_V9.wmv

by **journeygirl** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:03 am

Yeah, Mr. Perry, we know what you was looking at in this one. :oops:

by **indigo** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:04 am

Well, that girl got what she wanted. :lol:

by **Peartree12249** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:15 am

HH is just angry and bitter, because Perry didn't let HH lead him around like he did Neal. HH is pissed because he blames Perry for losing his job and all that wonderful money.

by **artist4perry** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:18 am

Seen Perry sing live twice. He looks at the audience, he engages with different members of the audience, he would talk to certain folks in the audience............sour grapes on HH's feelings perhaps? :wink:

by **tammy** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:40 am

The HH statement just makes you realize how much he exaggerates. There are too many instances that we KNOW SP looked & connected with the audience. Remember SP talking about a ROR concert when he lost his mom & felt he couldn't make it through...he saw a cute little girl in the audience wearing thick coke bottle eyeglasses who was so excited to be there...he focused on her and he got the strength to do the show. Need to find that interview 'cuz it is one of the many that are so touching.
One thing I can surmise is that SP is VERY observant. He notices tiny things. Like the drowning bird in the pond when he was on the FTLOSM tour...then he & the band rescuing it. I love these stories.

by **TRAGChick** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:52 am

What the hell...

He connected with me, during the "Frontiers" Tour....when I was in Section 215 ROW DOUBLE FREAKIN' M ~ at the Hartford Civic Center.

To connect with someone who is LITERALLY sitting on the CEILING....come on, now...
That was the "turning point" in my Life....that's why I'm a Singer.

And then, after that....being fortunate enough to see him in Feb. 95.....at the foot of the stage.....locking eyes with him for a few seconds.....

Yeah; right....he NEVER looked at the audience.... :roll:

by **Michigan Girl** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:20 pm

TRAGChick wrote:What the hell...

He connected with me, during the "Frontiers" Tour....when I was in Section 215 ROW DOUBLE FREAKIN' M ~ at the Hartford Civic Center.

To connect with someone who is LITERALLY sitting on the CEILING....come on, now...
That was the "turning point" in my Life....that's why I'm a Singer.
And then, after that....being fortunate enough to see him in Feb. 95.....at the foot of the stage.....locking eyes with him for a few seconds.....

Yeah; right....he NEVER looked at the audience....

No, it is not a true statement....but I like this^^^^Nice, Nora!!! :wink:

by **journeyrock** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:29 pm

jrnyman28 wrote:It may have been a reference to the early years. Perry was described as shy an MANY an occasion. Maybe in the early performances he avoided specific eye contact...

Oh, you mean like on LTS on the Midnight Special? Yeah, he sure avoided looking at that girl in the audience. :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnO7RE3f0-A

by **tbear1256** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:22 pm

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OK! Let's just say that if Steve Perry didn't Look at the audience, there would never have been the Journey we have all come to know and love.
Steve Perry made Journey!
Between his magnificent voice and the emotions he puts forth in the songs, plus his stage presence and the energy that went into those performances.
He ALWAYS looked into the audience and made contact with the fans, he made you feel like he was singing just to you!

Answer me this one, then if Steve Perry was so awful, then why do they keep coming up with copy-cat Perry clones?
The songs they made in Journey were good, let's hear Neal, Jon or Ross sing them.
Why do they still need to have the missing ingredient to the Journey recipe?
The Pear Tree is gone, but yet they still want his sound.
Why? Because he made Journey! He was the reason why we all fell in love with those songs and the group.
Steve made all of them rich without his voice they would have never gotten on the radio or on MTV.
Jealousy is an ulgy thing MR HH, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Without Steve you might still be a roadie for Neal!
Steve with his charisma and talents no one can copy because that suff he has is unique and can't be duplicated.

I think that MR HH is very envious that Steve Perry is still loved and adored by his many fans to this day.
After all, didn't Steve fire HH, maybe he is still a little mad about that.
Steve is the one with the talent and HH is the one with the grudge.
I remember at the WOF Steve said thanks to HH for giving him the chance to work with Journey.
Whenever Steve speaks of the others in Journey he is very resecptful to all, but when ever the others, meaning Jon, Neal and Ross speak of Steve they
are down right rude.

PEACE.

by **SP Fan in Oregon** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:30 pm

tbear1256 wrote:]

OK! Let's just say that if Steve Perry didn't Look at the audience, there would never have been the Journey we have all come to know and love.
Steve Perry made Journey!
Between his magnificent voice and the emotions he puts forth in the songs, plus his stage presence and the energy that went into those performances.
He ALWAYS looked into the audience and made contact with the fans, he made you feel like he was singing just to you!

Answer me this one, then if Steve Perry was so awful, then why do they keep coming up with copy-cat Perry clones?
The songs they made in Journey were good, let's hear Neal, Jon or Ross sing them.
Why do they still need to have the missing ingredient to the Journey recipe?
The Pear Tree is gone, but yet they still want his sound.
Why? Because he made Journey! He was the reason why we all fell in love with those songs and the group.
Steve made all of them rich without his voice they would have never gotten on the radio or on MTV.
Jealousy is an ulgy thing MR HH, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Without Steve you might still be a roadie for Neal!
Steve with his charisma and talents no one can copy because that suff he has is unique and can't be duplicated.

I think that MR HH is very envious that Steve Perry is still loved and adored by his many fans to this day.
After all, didn't Steve fire HH, maybe he is still a little mad about that.
Steve is the one with the talent and HH is the one with the grudge.
I remember at the WOF Steve said thanks to HH for giving him the chance to work with Journey.
Whenever Steve speaks of the others in Journey he is very resecptful to all, but when ever the others, meaning Jon, Neal and Ross speak of Steve they
are down right rude.

PEACE.

Leaders are like Eagles, they don't flock, you find them one at a time. :wink:

We all know who the leader was.

by **texafana** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:13 pm

Except for the obvious when he's engaging in a one on one hello, it looks like he uses the standard "look just above their eyes into the back of the building" when he's singing. Lots of singers do this. When I saw JSS in Ft.Worth when there was was only about 75 peeps, that technique was in full swing.

by **Jeremey** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:39 pm

I never saw Perry live, but he never appeared to be too shy about engaging the audience, which I think is the point Herbie tried making in his interview. To be honest, I am willing to bet that with rare exceptions, Perry never was able to see much past the third or fourth row of the crowd anyway.

Jonathan Cain told me a story about why there was so much lingering animosity for Perry with Herbie. It was basically a business situation, and Perry was very strong willed in his belief that Herbie was overstepping some boundaries. The band sided with Perry, and apparently Herbie still carries some of that anger around. After all, the guy does believe that he was the reason for all of Journey's success and popularity, and that's an awful lot of "$ucce$$" to lose control of...

by **walkslikealady** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:27 pm

Always wondered how much a singer could see from the stage with all those lights shining at you...

by **perryfaithful** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:21 pm

Jeremey wrote:I never saw Perry live, but he never appeared to be too shy about engaging the audience, which I think is the point Herbie tried making in his interview. To be honest, I am willing to bet that with rare exceptions, Perry never was able to see much past the third or fourth row of the crowd anyway.

Jonathan Cain told me a story about why there was so much lingering animosity for Perry with Herbie. It was basically a business situation, and Perry was very strong willed in his belief that Herbie was overstepping some boundaries. The band sided with Perry, and apparently Herbie still carries some of that anger around. After all, the guy does believe that he was the reason for all of Journey's success and popularity, and that's an awful lot of "$ucce$$" to lose control of...

thanks Jeremy

by **Suzanne** » Tue Aug 18, 2009 9:31 pm

portland wrote:HH is a windbag....that's my observation

+ 1

by **journeyrock** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:41 am

Jeremey wrote:I never saw Perry live, but he never appeared to be too shy about engaging the audience, which I think is the point Herbie tried making in his interview. To be honest, I am willing to bet that with rare exceptions, Perry never was able to see much past the third or fourth row of the crowd anyway.

Jonathan Cain told me a story about why there was so much lingering animosity for Perry with Herbie. It was basically a business situation, and Perry was very strong willed in his belief that Herbie was overstepping some boundaries. The band sided with Perry, and apparently Herbie still carries some of that anger around. After all, the guy does believe that he was the reason for all of Journey's success and popularity, and that's an awful lot of "$ucce$$" to lose control of...

Very interesting, thanks for that Jeremey! BTW, as much as I don't care for HH, I DO believe that he was VERY instrumental in the success of Journey, he is the one that pushed and pushed and marketed and marketed, since the band became successful on touring, not hits. Steve was the voice behind it, but in actuality, Herbie was the business behind it. For that I am grateful to HH.

And Perry reiterated that at the WOF ceremony as well!

MR