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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:36 am

Fact Finder wrote:The Wons numbers are going down because even the Dems (voters) didn't do their homework regarding O before the election. Now that he's in office they are realizing he is not the moderate Dem he portrayed himself to be. Instead he his a radical leftist pushing Big Gov down the populaces throats against their collective will.



They gotta be dumber than they even appear then, anyone could tell this guy was a far lefty since he first came on the scene. I love it. Give the guy 8 years.. punish all these fools who voted for him. In fact, repeal presidential term limits and give him 16... let him fuck this country up so bad that people learn a lesson to NEVER ever trust an agenda or a belief system like this ever again. I'm willing to sacrifice in the mean time. I truly am if it means I don't have to live through this garbage ever again.
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Postby RaisedOnRadio92 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:21 am

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Fact Finder wrote:The Wons numbers are going down because even the Dems (voters) didn't do their homework regarding O before the election. Now that he's in office they are realizing he is not the moderate Dem he portrayed himself to be. Instead he his a radical leftist pushing Big Gov down the populaces throats against their collective will.



They gotta be dumber than they even appear then, anyone could tell this guy was a far lefty since he first came on the scene. I love it. Give the guy 8 years.. punish all these fools who voted for him. In fact, repeal presidential term limits and give him 16... let him fuck this country up so bad that people learn a lesson to NEVER ever trust an agenda or a belief system like this ever again. I'm willing to sacrifice in the mean time. I truly am if it means I don't have to live through this garbage ever again.



I love the fact that people voted for him because they didn't want to be branded as a 'racist'. I met a guy last fall and he said he wouldn't vote for McCain, I asked him why, he said, 'I don't want people to call me prejudice'.

It's nice to know our country voted for the guy simply out of concern for their self-image. Isn't it?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:31 am

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Lula wrote:beck's ratings don't mean anything to me other than fear others will be influenced by his twisted view of reality and act upon his crazed comments.


No one has disputed any of the facts he has brought forth. In fact, the Whitehouse's only concern was that he referred to someone as a Czar who isn't really a czar, but just a special advisor.

I have no freaking idea if Glenn is right in how he is connecting these dots or not, but it does bother me that the POTUS has so many associations with self proclaimed communists, anti capitalists and anti Americans.

There is something not right about Barack Obama and the country is starting to feel that. His poll numbers are going down with remarkable speed and you can't attribute that to Glenn Beck alone.


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Postby donnaplease » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:12 pm

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Lula wrote:beck's ratings don't mean anything to me other than fear others will be influenced by his twisted view of reality and act upon his crazed comments.


No one has disputed any of the facts he has brought forth. In fact, the Whitehouse's only concern was that he referred to someone as a Czar who isn't really a czar, but just a special advisor.

I have no freaking idea if Glenn is right in how he is connecting these dots or not, but it does bother me that the POTUS has so many associations with self proclaimed communists, anti capitalists and anti Americans.

There is something not right about Barack Obama and the country is starting to feel that. His poll numbers are going down with remarkable speed and you can't attribute that to Glenn Beck alone.


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Postby separate_wayz » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:51 am

Get a load of this Democrat congresswoman (Diane Watson) praising Fidel Castro ("one of the brightest leaders I have ever met"), the Cuban revolution, the Cuban health care system .....

What a completely retarded numbskull. She needs to go back and get her GED.

I guess this is what passes for deep thinking in the Democrat Party.

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Postby donnaplease » Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:16 pm

separate_wayz wrote:Get a load of this Democrat congresswoman (Diane Watson) praising Fidel Castro ("one of the brightest leaders I have ever met"), the Cuban revolution, the Cuban health care system .....

What a completely retarded numbskull. She needs to go back and get her GED.

I guess this is what passes for deep thinking in the Democrat Party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqsPoVYY7s


Of course, when people (such as Glen Beck) bring things like this to the public's attention, they are the ones branded as lunatics. Go figure... :roll:
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Postby yak » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:45 pm

RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:
I love the fact that people voted for him because they didn't want to be branded as a 'racist'. I met a guy last fall and he said he wouldn't vote for McCain, I asked him why, he said, 'I don't want people to call me prejudice'.

It's nice to know our country voted for the guy simply out of concern for their self-image. Isn't it?



Yeah, for sure. Where is it written that this guy has to divulge who he voted for, in the first place? Anybody who did their homework last year knew this was coming down the pike. The Blind leading the blind. God help us all. Did you ever think you'd see this kind of insanity in your lifetime?
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Postby Rick » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:54 pm

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Ehwmatt wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:The Wons numbers are going down because even the Dems (voters) didn't do their homework regarding O before the election. Now that he's in office they are realizing he is not the moderate Dem he portrayed himself to be. Instead he his a radical leftist pushing Big Gov down the populaces throats against their collective will.



They gotta be dumber than they even appear then, anyone could tell this guy was a far lefty since he first came on the scene. I love it. Give the guy 8 years.. punish all these fools who voted for him. In fact, repeal presidential term limits and give him 16... let him fuck this country up so bad that people learn a lesson to NEVER ever trust an agenda or a belief system like this ever again. I'm willing to sacrifice in the mean time. I truly am if it means I don't have to live through this garbage ever again.



I love the fact that people voted for him because they didn't want to be branded as a 'racist'. I met a guy last fall and he said he wouldn't vote for McCain, I asked him why, he said, 'I don't want people to call me prejudice'.

It's nice to know our country voted for the guy simply out of concern for their self-image. Isn't it?


There aren't people that voted for him for that reason, there's that one person.

People voted for him because they would have rather had Hitler at the helm than another Republican, who would follow his footsteps.

I voted for him because he was the best candidate of the two. Wasn't much of a decision.
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Postby yak » Sun Aug 30, 2009 4:01 pm

AlteredDNA wrote:Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.

"I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness," said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. "It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill."

Representatives of other large Internet and telecommunications companies expressed concerns about the bill in a teleconference with Rockefeller's aides this week, but were not immediately available for interviews on Thursday.

A spokesman for Rockefeller also declined to comment on the record Thursday, saying that many people were unavailable because of the summer recess. A Senate source familiar with the bill compared the president's power to take control of portions of the Internet to what President Bush did when grounding all aircraft on Sept. 11, 2001. The source said that one primary concern was the electrical grid, and what would happen if it were attacked from a broadband connection.

When Rockefeller, the chairman of the Senate Commerce committee, and Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) introduced the original bill in April, they claimed it was vital to protect national cybersecurity. "We must protect our critical infrastructure at all costs--from our water to our electricity, to banking, traffic lights and electronic health records," Rockefeller said.

The Rockefeller proposal plays out against a broader concern in Washington, D.C., about the government's role in cybersecurity. In May, President Obama acknowledged that the government is "not as prepared" as it should be to respond to disruptions and announced that a new cybersecurity coordinator position would be created inside the White House staff. Three months later, that post remains empty, one top cybersecurity aide has quit, and some wags have begun to wonder why a government that receives failing marks on cybersecurity should be trusted to instruct the private sector what to do.

Rockefeller's revised legislation seeks to reshuffle the way the federal government addresses the topic. It requires a "cybersecurity workforce plan" from every federal agency, a "dashboard" pilot project, measurements of hiring effectiveness, and the implementation of a "comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy" in six months--even though its mandatory legal review will take a year to complete.

The privacy implications of sweeping changes implemented before the legal review is finished worry Lee Tien, a senior staff attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco. "As soon as you're saying that the federal government is going to be exercising this kind of power over private networks, it's going to be a really big issue," he says.

Probably the most controversial language begins in Section 201, which permits the president to "direct the national response to the cyber threat" if necessary for "the national defense and security." The White House is supposed to engage in "periodic mapping" of private networks deemed to be critical, and those companies "shall share" requested information with the federal government. ("Cyber" is defined as anything having to do with the Internet, telecommunications, computers, or computer networks.)

"The language has changed but it doesn't contain any real additional limits," EFF's Tien says. "It simply switches the more direct and obvious language they had originally to the more ambiguous (version)...The designation of what is a critical infrastructure system or network as far as I can tell has no specific process. There's no provision for any administrative process or review. That's where the problems seem to start. And then you have the amorphous powers that go along with it."

Translation: If your company is deemed "critical," a new set of regulations kick in involving who you can hire, what information you must disclose, and when the government would exercise control over your computers or network.

The Internet Security Alliance's Clinton adds that his group is "supportive of increased federal involvement to enhance cyber security, but we believe that the wrong approach, as embodied in this bill as introduced, will be counterproductive both from an national economic and national secuity perspective."




If this isn't enough to open the robots eyes, I don't know what is. Nobody owns the net. What kind of "emergency" could there ever be to shut down the net? This is a blatant attempt to shut down the dissenting voices. How stupid do these people think we are, just because they have sheeple on their end?

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Postby Eric » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:31 am

Rick wrote:

I voted for him because he was the best candidate of the two. Wasn't much of a decision.


BULLSHIT! John McCain would have been the perfect moderate to lead this country right now.
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:35 am

Eric wrote:
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I voted for him because he was the best candidate of the two. Wasn't much of a decision.


BULLSHIT! John McCain would have been the perfect moderate to lead this country right now.

No, McCain would be doing much the same as Bamster, while further damaging the Republican party. Right now Bamster is taking Harry Reid and the rest of the democrats with him.
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Postby Eric » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:38 am

RedWingFan wrote:
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Rick wrote:

I voted for him because he was the best candidate of the two. Wasn't much of a decision.


BULLSHIT! John McCain would have been the perfect moderate to lead this country right now.

No, McCain would be doing much the same as Bamster, while further damaging the Republican party. Right now Bamster is taking Harry Reid and the rest of the democrats with him.


I think McCain is someone we could all be looking up to and respecting now....and that alone would go a long way.
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Postby Gibby » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:40 am

This could get very ugly. You can't take people's freedoms away or they will revolt. Man's greatest gift is free will and it is worth fighting for. I assume that many Dem's on the hill are very nervous about what kind of scenes could play out across the country. The demonstrations and the protests would be massive. Imagine one man standing up to one of Obama's tanks in the middle of the capital mall. Remember China?
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:47 am

Rick wrote:
RaisedOnRadio92 wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:The Wons numbers are going down because even the Dems (voters) didn't do their homework regarding O before the election. Now that he's in office they are realizing he is not the moderate Dem he portrayed himself to be. Instead he his a radical leftist pushing Big Gov down the populaces throats against their collective will.



They gotta be dumber than they even appear then, anyone could tell this guy was a far lefty since he first came on the scene. I love it. Give the guy 8 years.. punish all these fools who voted for him. In fact, repeal presidential term limits and give him 16... let him fuck this country up so bad that people learn a lesson to NEVER ever trust an agenda or a belief system like this ever again. I'm willing to sacrifice in the mean time. I truly am if it means I don't have to live through this garbage ever again.



I love the fact that people voted for him because they didn't want to be branded as a 'racist'. I met a guy last fall and he said he wouldn't vote for McCain, I asked him why, he said, 'I don't want people to call me prejudice'.

It's nice to know our country voted for the guy simply out of concern for their self-image. Isn't it?


There aren't people that voted for him for that reason, there's that one person.

People voted for him because they would have rather had Hitler at the helm than another Republican, who would follow his footsteps.

I voted for him because he was the best candidate of the two. Wasn't much of a decision.


Therein lies the problem, and it's two-fold: (1) Our two-party system is broken, it's led by bozos on both sides of the most extreme nature but then again most of the people out there are just as stupid and extreme, and (2) If those were the two best choices we had to lead the country, then God help us, and I'm not even religious. Those guys were and are sacks of shit. Both prongs of that lead to an unfortunate conclusion: People who want to vote are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils. Horrible.
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Postby yak » Mon Aug 31, 2009 8:43 am

How about this?


"DHS: Expect your computer to be seized without suspicion"


http://www.betanews.com/article/DHS-Exp ... 1251488759
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Postby Lula » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:03 am

scary things were passed through with the 'patriot act.' i understand the need to defend our country, but at some point we have to ask ourselves 'at what cost?' this new bill, 'cyber security' about giving the president the power of shutting down the internet, is too much. rockefeller has already changed the language and it hasn't reached the senate floor yet.... we'll see how this goes.
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Postby yak » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:13 am

Lula wrote:scary things were passed through with the 'patriot act.' i understand the need to defend our country, but at some point we have to ask ourselves 'at what cost?' this new bill, 'cyber security' about giving the president the power of shutting down the internet, is too much. rockefeller has already changed the language and it hasn't reached the senate floor yet.... we'll see how this goes.



The person who occupies the WH is continuing the policies of Bush. Therse are dangerous times; why can't you see that?

I prefer not to "wait" and see how things go. By then it will be too late. The time to speak up is now. I am concerned for all children, including yours.
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Postby Lula » Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:30 am

so wait.... you're okay with the seizing of computers without suspicion, but not okay with a proposed and unfinished bill giving the president power to control the internet for 180 days?
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Postby yak » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:29 am

Lula wrote:so wait.... you're okay with the seizing of computers without suspicion, but not okay with a proposed and unfinished bill giving the president power to control the internet for 180 days?



??? Where did I say that? I am not for the seizing of anything. I posted that link as news I had just found. I thought some here might be interested. I'm for freedom in America, for you and me, and everyone else. I don't care what side of the aisle you stand on; we have one country and we share it, and it's going to hell in a handbasket.

Let me put it this way, Lula. Hypothetically speaking, I might not like the way you raise your children, but unless you are an abusive parent, it is your right to raise your child as you see fit. No government has the right to tell you how to raise your child, nor to change the definition of 'abuse' to fit their agenda, and I will defend that right. NOBODY has the right to come into your home and tell you what you can and can't teach your child. But that's what's coming down the road.
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Postby Lula » Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:38 am

my apologies, yak, i misunderstood. i agree about government keeping out of our homes. we may not see things the same, but that's okay. 8)
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Postby yak » Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:19 am

Lula wrote:my apologies, yak, i misunderstood. i agree about government keeping out of our homes. we may not see things the same, but that's okay. 8)



Apology not neccessary. We're cool. 8)
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Postby Lula » Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:41 pm

yak wrote:
Lula wrote:my apologies, yak, i misunderstood. i agree about government keeping out of our homes. we may not see things the same, but that's okay. 8)



Apology not neccessary. We're cool. 8)


awww, now i'm feeling all warm and fuzzy :lol:

thank you.
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Postby Peartree12249 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:12 pm

I ran across this today. If it was already posted I apologize. Thought we could all use a chuckle.

http://sendables.jibjab.com/originals/hes_barack_obama
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Postby Blueskies » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:38 pm

I already got a good laugh from the last few pages of this thread....that anyone would watch that Glenn Beck guy and take anything he says seriously is funny as heck! Thats like watching and taking Jerry Springer seriously. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Lula » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:50 pm

better watch it there phyllis, lot's of folks here like glenn beck ;)
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Postby Blueskies » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:55 pm

Lula wrote:better watch it there phyllis, lot's of folks here like glenn beck ;)


I noticed. :shock: and like I said...it's funny as heck! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Andrew » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:27 pm

You people are all completely nuts.

Move to Australia where we think all politicians are dickheads, but don't really give a flying zucchini overall. One independant party here for the longest time had the political slogan "keeping the bastards honest". God love 'em.
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Postby Blueskies » Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:48 pm

Andrew wrote:You people are all completely nuts.

Move to Australia where we think all politicians are dickheads, but don't really give a flying zucchini overall. One independant party here for the longest time had the political slgan "keeping the bastards honest". God love 'em.


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