This is why we have a death penalty

[Carla777]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

[JasonD]

Here are just four of the reasons why I don’t believe in the death penalty:


Joyce Ann Brown ~~ http://www.massjab.org/content-brown.html

Randall Adams ~~ http://www.law.northwestern.edu/wrongfu ... mmary.html

Clarence Elkins ~~ http://www.19actionnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=3120934

Michael Crowe ~~ http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/noto ... ons/6.html


Of course there are tons of other stories just like these, but that's already a lot of reading & I ain't trying to lose anyone's attention. (I know, I know, .... too late. )

[stevew2]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

[Saint John]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

[stevew2]

Here are just four of the reasons why I don’t believe in the death penalty:


Joyce Ann Brown ~~ http://www.massjab.org/content-brown.html

Randall Adams ~~ http://www.law.northwestern.edu/wrongfu ... mmary.html

Clarence Elkins ~~ http://www.19actionnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=3120934

Michael Crowe ~~ http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/noto ... ons/6.html


Of course there are tons of other stories just like these, but that's already a lot of reading & I ain't trying to lose anyone's attention. (I know, I know, .... too late. )

Im lockin your ass up tom, night Jason

[stevew2]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

hell yeh. my fuckin DSL and phone has been down since 4:00 am, Im fuckin wired dan

[JasonD]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

hell yeh. my fuckin DSL and phone has been down since 4:00 am, Im fuckin wired dan

Wired, huh? Oooooo, I'm so tempted to poke a stick at ya. I only wish you were on earlier before I got all mellow & sleepy.

[Voyager]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

hell yeh. my fuckin DSL and phone has been down since 4:00 am, Im fuckin wired dan

I always say when the DSL goes down, break out the LSD. Is that your motto too - is that what you are wired on?

[stevew2]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

hell yeh. my fuckin DSL and phone has been down since 4:00 am, Im fuckin wired dan

Wired, huh? Oooooo, I'm so tempted to poke a stick at ya. I only wish you were on earlier before I got all mellow & sleepy.

You sleeply from shakein your stick and putting it in some shaven dude?

[stevew2]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

hell yeh. my fuckin DSL and phone has been down since 4:00 am, Im fuckin wired dan

I always say when the DSL goes down, break out the LSD. Is that your motto too - is that what you are wired on?

wine and lack of MR

[JasonD]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

hell yeh. my fuckin DSL and phone has been down since 4:00 am, Im fuckin wired dan

Wired, huh? Oooooo, I'm so tempted to poke a stick at ya. I only wish you were on earlier before I got all mellow & sleepy.

You sleeply from shakein your stick and putting it in some shaven dude?

Man don't torture me with the sex talk. It's been forever for me!!!!

[Saint John]

Man don't torture me with the sex talk. It's been forever for me!!!!

Can't you just go sit on a plunger or something?

[stevew2]

Man don't torture me with the sex talk. It's been forever for me!!!!

Can't you just go sit on a plunger or something?

he doesnt take it he plunges it , selfish bastard

[stevew2]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

hell yeh. my fuckin DSL and phone has been down since 4:00 am, Im fuckin wired dan

Wired, huh? Oooooo, I'm so tempted to poke a stick at ya. I only wish you were on earlier before I got all mellow & sleepy.

You sleeply from shakein your stick and putting it in some shaven dude?

Man don't torture me with the sex talk. It's been forever for me!!!!

You cant get laid?? Hit the fuckin airport Jason

[JasonD]

You cant get laid?? Hit the fuckin airport Jason

Now you're talking over my head, Steve. What's at the airport?

(This is where Saint John says, "You could always go visit the cockpit.")

[Saint John]

You cant get laid?? Hit the fuckin airport Jason

Now you're talking over my head, Steve. What's at the airport?

(This is where Saint John says, "You could always go visit the cockpit.")

lol...good one!

[nutz4Neal]

It blows my mind why this case wasn't solved long ago. Neighbors saw tents in the back yard, heard children playing in the yard, saw power lines from those tents and called the authorties who didn't do their jobs and failed this little girl. Breaks my heart.

[stevew2]

You cant get laid?? Hit the fuckin airport Jason

Now you're talking over my head, Steve. What's at the airport?

(This is where Saint John says, "You could always go visit the cockpit.")

you retard, dont you remember that "footies" thing that fag congressmen did 6 months ago? Fags love publc bathrooms, that why i piss outside, or hit a port a pot,or just whip it out the truck

[verslibre]

It's been forever for me!!!!

Didn't you just say in another thread that you "get naked for a living"? I took that (and going by other things I've read on here) to mean you're a gay porn actor. Or fluffer.

[Andrew]

not a proponent of the death penalty, i think a life in prison is an apt punishment. who wants to spend the remainder of their days with no freedoms? besides, death penalty prisoners cost the tax payers more with all of the appeals.

how this case wasn't solved sooner is mind boggling. investigators saw power chords running into the trees and didn't look further. very sad, very sick.

Agree with you..i don't know about USA but here be in prison is not paradise, i work in there so i know how it works, beside i do believe for some cases in rehabilitation, and for the helpless cases, think that the worse is jail forever, dead is the fast way out

Im your prisoner forever

Drinkin' tonight, huh?

hell yeh. my fuckin DSL and phone has been down since 4:00 am, Im fuckin wired dan

Wired, huh? Oooooo, I'm so tempted to poke a stick at ya. I only wish you were on earlier before I got all mellow & sleepy.

You sleeply from shakein your stick and putting it in some shaven dude?

Is there one bloody thread that you can perhaps refrain from turning into some homosexual Q&A? Seriously....you have MAJOR issues. But I'm not going to put up with this in every damn thread.

[annie89509]

It ... is a bummer when an interesting discussion degenerates into sex babble ... makes it hard to come in with a serious post. Luv ya, though, Steve .

I was just going say that at the time the kidnapping hit this here parts, local media was all over it. Volunteers out searching for the girl for months. Seemingly, there were no leads or explanation of how it could have happened. ... only the stepdad's account. As he now says ... he was actually suspected for doing something unseemingly to the girl, as there were no other eyewitnesses to the kidnapping but just his word.

I remember, for a few years after that, the local news media would bring it back around the anniversary dates .... as they have done for other cold case crimes, to see if they can drum up some leads for law enforcement. After so many years, unless you were directly involved with the families, it just leaves everyone's consciousness. And, I see now the family actually moved out of the Lake Tahoe area to So Cal. Then, when the story broke about the girl's reappearance, it all came flooding back.

What great joy to learn that Jaycee's alive ... but also great sadness contemplating what the little girl must have had to endure having her childhood stripped away like that. There are some sick and evil people out there! Well, more fodder for the media circus that's bound to come out now ...

[Saint John]

What great joy to learn that Jaycee's alive ... but also great sadness contemplating what the little girl must have had to endure having her childhood stripped away like that.

Great point. "Jaycee" is still physically alive, but you have to wonder how much of her died emotionally and spirtitually many years ago. This is where the victim needs to know that the motherfucker that did this is dead at some point. I really believe it would help the healing process.

[Arkansas]

Uh oh, you've stirred the pot now. I'm in 100% support of the death penalty. I think every state needs to have it. But there are too many whack jobs who play the 'we are better than them' card. You're better than sadistic child molestationists and murderers by letting them live? BULL!

There's two reasons I'm on the fence about the death penalty. The first is the chance of being wrong, as we've found out in the past many of the wrong people were executed. The second one, it's too easy for some of those people who are truly guilty who deserve to be beaten and tortured every day for their rest of their lives until they die naturally.


I also think if you're a Christian and FOR the death penalty, it's hypocritical.

Why? The Bible is filled with punishment and death. God handed out punishment to those who disobeyed.

It's hypocritical for someone to kill someone in cold blood for no reason, and then not be punished for it.

Because God handed out punishment. Modern Christians don't live by the Old Testament any longer, Jesus fulfilled that. In my opinion, you can't in one breath say you're a Christian, "Christ-like" and then turn around a be for the killing of anyone.





Deb, I think those found guilty of horrible crimes against children, old people or anyone should be done the same way they did their victims.

So you think it's justified for a cold blooded murderer to live out the rest of his life and die of natural causes? Have some respect for those who he/she murdered. Did they get a 2nd chance at life? Did they get to live out their life? Did they?

This may be a decision for the Scottish government.


later~

[Ehwmatt]

What great joy to learn that Jaycee's alive ... but also great sadness contemplating what the little girl must have had to endure having her childhood stripped away like that.

Great point. "Jaycee" is still physically alive, but you have to wonder how much of her died emotionally and spirtitually many years ago. This is where the victim needs to know that the motherfucker that did this is dead at some point. I really believe it would help the healing process.

Same thing with rape... it's not the end result of the crime in such a black and white measurement. It should be the depravity of the act. I'd be quicker to give this guy the death penalty than give it to some guy who tracked down his wife's lover, following him from his and his wife's house where they fucked in his bed, and killed him. Althogh not legally justifiable (any more), it's not as morally depraved as what this guy did to Jaycee.

[Voyager]

Last night Jaycee, 29, and her daughters were in a hotel in northern California after having an emotional reunion with her mother Terry, 53.

Last night detectives were continuing to search Garrido’s back garden for clues in the unsolved murders of nine prostitutes whose bodies were dumped near an industrial park where Garrido worked in the 1990s.

Damn... this fucker probably raped and killed them too.

I can't seem to get this story out of my head. It's the worst case of abuse I can ever remember hearing.

Dugard, now 29, was reunited with her mother, sister and another relative Thursday. She is said to be in good health, but feeling guilty about developing a bond with Garrido, said her stepfather Carl Probyn. Her two children, 11 and 15, remain with her.

"Jaycee has strong feelings with this guy. She really feels it's almost like a marriage," said Probyn, who was there when little Jaycee was snatched from a bus stop in 1991 and has been in contact with her mother since they found out the girl was alive.

"Hi, mom, I have babies," was Dugard's first words to her mother when they were reunited Thursday, Probyn said, adding it appears she never told them she was kidnapped by their father.

Man, that is messed up.

[Saint John]

Stockholm Syndrone...isn't that what it's called? This is exactly why I am for the death penalty. The human mind is very strong and will eventually adjust to its surroundings and "happiness" becomes relative. Death makes sure that doesn't happen. Not to mention that it gives the victim closure in most cases.

[Lula]

not to be a pain in the ass, sj..... but..... the whole closure thing is a load of crap. when something tragic happens that is life altering it never leaves you. we learn to cope and move forward, but there isn't closure. sorry, i don't mean to be a pain

[Saint John]

not to be a pain in the ass, sj..... but..... the whole closure thing is a load of crap. when something tragic happens that is life altering it never leaves you. we learn to cope and move forward, but there isn't closure. sorry, i don't mean to be a pain

You're full of poop. There's evidence to suggest that victims are often terrified that the person that harmed them is going to return. Killing that motherfucker eliminates that possibility and there is closure in that sense.

[walkslikealady]

I like the idea of castration for him...don't know if that would decrease his drive for violence though.

Personally, I find the wife helping him worse in some ways. Come on, what kind of woman helps her husband keep a young girl as a sex slave.

[Lula]

not to be a pain in the ass, sj..... but..... the whole closure thing is a load of crap. when something tragic happens that is life altering it never leaves you. we learn to cope and move forward, but there isn't closure. sorry, i don't mean to be a pain

You're full of shit. There's evidence to suggest that victims are often terrified that the person that harmed them is going to return. Killing that motherfucker eliminates that possibility and there is closure in that sense.

well pardon the fuck out of me.