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fredinator wrote:I meant they buy these things for their students, Einstein.
Lula wrote:yikes! have a bad experience in school separate wayz?
for the amount of higher education one must have to become a teacher i'd say overall teachers are a bit underpaid and are absolutely valued less by society than other professions requiring a 4 year degree and then some.
i did not go into teaching to become rich. i can't complain as i'm able to provide for my son, we do alright.
the amount of out of pocket expense is something i don't like to think about. i keep snacks, supplies (paper, pencils...), rewards in the classroom. i pay for all of the 'decor.' i supply books for a library in class. we get a standard 200 write off for taxes. I wish i only had to spend 200 a year on "supplies."
Lula wrote:conversationpc wrote:I think teachers should make more than they do. Period. However, they go into it knowing that they aren't going to be making much money. They should be the last ones complaining.
you're right. anyone going into teaching for the money is a fool, sorryit is a decent living tho. as long as i can keep a roof over our heads, feed our bellies and have a little fun i'm fine. i just want to give my son a good life, simple, but good.
Lula wrote:yak- my deal with healthcare reform is wanting to see costs brought down, correct the wrongs such as being dropped for having cancer etc, and help those that are uninsured. i'm a lucky one, i have good insurance, but it costs a lot. i don't have the answers, i just want it done.
Fact Finder wrote:Obama Czar’s SHOCK ADMISSION: ‘Green Jobs’ Goal is ‘Complete Revolution’ Away From ‘Gray Capitalism’
"We are going to push it and push it and push it."
http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-czars-sho ... apitalism/
separate_wayz wrote:
It's human nature to believe that your own work is "underappreciated" and "underpaid", while everyone else is somehow "overpaid". In the case of public school teachers, however, the reality is probably better stated in my original post. Teachers' pay and benefits are generous by almost any comparable standard, including other public sector employees.
Lula wrote:separate_wayz wrote:
It's human nature to believe that your own work is "underappreciated" and "underpaid", while everyone else is somehow "overpaid". In the case of public school teachers, however, the reality is probably better stated in my original post. Teachers' pay and benefits are generous by almost any comparable standard, including other public sector employees.
maybe it is, but i've experienced it first hand. i didn't go into teaching for money or praise, i went into teaching because it's what i was meant to do. tell me this about the "other public sector employees" you are referring to- how much education do do they need for these professions?
House Democrats criticized President Bush yesterday for using Education Department funds to produce and broadcast a speech that he made Tuesday at a Northwest Washington junior high school.
The Democratic critics accused Bush of turning government money for education to his own political use, namely, an ongoing effort to inoculate himself against their charges of inattention to domestic issues. The speech at Alice Deal Junior High School, broadcast live on radio and television, urged students to study hard, avoid drugs and turn in troublemakers.
"The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," House Majority Leader Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.) said. "And the president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action.' "
Two House committees demanded that the department explain the use of its funds for the speech, an explanation that Deputy Secretary David T. Kearns provided late in the day in a letter to Rep. William D. Ford (D-Mich.), chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee. Education Secretary Lamar Alexander was out of town. [...]
Rep. Patricia Schroeder (D-Colo.), chairwoman of the Select Committee on Children, Youth and Families, said it was outrageous for the White House to "start using precious dollars for campaigns" when "we are struggling for every silly dime we can get" for education programs.
Rep. Martin Frost (D-Tex.) said that if Bush feels obliged to use government funds to hire outside consultants "to make him look good," then he should fire some of the public relations experts on the White House payroll. "Then the president might be more sympathetic to unemployment benefits," Frost said, referring to Bush's threat to veto legislation to extend benefits.
Lula wrote:i'm curious, fact finder, do you wake up and search your right wing websites for doom and gloom to share here?
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
Fact Finder wrote:
Do your country and yourself a favor and read this one. Please????
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... e-NHS.htmlSentenced to death on the NHS
Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under an NHS scheme to help end their lives, leading doctors have warned.
In a letter to The Daily Telegraph, a group of experts who care for the terminally ill claim that some patients are being wrongly judged as close to death.
Under NHS guidance introduced across England to help doctors and medical staff deal with dying patients, they can then have fluid and drugs withdrawn and many are put on continuous sedation until they pass away.
--snip--
Sounds like the Brits are putting old folks to sleep.![]()
Fact Finder wrote:Do your country and yourself a favor and read this one. Please????
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt ... e-NHS.htmlSentenced to death on the NHS
Patients with terminal illnesses are being made to die prematurely under an NHS scheme to help end their lives, leading doctors have warned.
In a letter to The Daily Telegraph, a group of experts who care for the terminally ill claim that some patients are being wrongly judged as close to death.
Under NHS guidance introduced across England to help doctors and medical staff deal with dying patients, they can then have fluid and drugs withdrawn and many are put on continuous sedation until they pass away.
--snip--
Sounds like the Brits are putting old folks to sleep.![]()
Eric wrote:Barb wrote:http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/53363
White House Seeks to Capture and Archive Citizens’ Comments on its Facebook, YouTube, MySpace Sites
Someone is making a LIST
Barb wrote:Now we find out that Van Jones is also a 9/11 truther. WTF is this cretin doing anywhere near the POTUS?
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 6093059633
Signatory #46
treetopovskaya wrote:Barb wrote:Now we find out that Van Jones is also a 9/11 truther. WTF is this cretin doing anywhere near the POTUS?
http://www.911truth.org/article.php?sto ... 6093059633
Signatory #46
he also thinks white people are poisoning minorities. }:C\
*sigh*
Fact Finder wrote:The Fox Panel said to expect Van Jones to be gone by Monday Morning.
Lula wrote:good thing we aren't a country that has government controlling the airwaves.
Seven Wishes wrote:"Abysmal? He's the most proactive President since Clinton, and he's bringing much-needed change for the better to a nation that has been tyrannized by the worst President since Hoover."- 7 Wishes on Pres. Obama
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