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Postby Eric » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:46 am

Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:52 am

Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Don't sugar coat it, just tell her he's a big-eared buffoon who is useless like the rest of them.
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Postby Rick » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:56 am

Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:00 am

Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


That's the job of the parents and teachers, not the job of the POTUS, much less a job dispensed in an hour. There's a happy medium between oversheltering your kids and making sure they have appropriate perspective for their age. A lot of parents and teachers don't know anything, so how can we expect kids to know anything.
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Postby Rick » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:08 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


That's the job of the parents and teachers, not the job of the POTUS, much less a job dispensed in an hour. There's a happy medium between oversheltering your kids and making sure they have appropriate perspective for their age. A lot of parents and teachers don't know anything, so how can we expect kids to know anything.


I know it's the parents job, but they're not doing it. So the logic is, get the kids involved and it will drag the parents into it. It's just my crazy hypothesis, but it makes sense to me. Like Keep On Runnin does. :lol:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:10 am

Rick wrote:I know it's the parents job, but they're not doing it. So the logic is, get the kids involved and it will drag the parents into it. It's just my crazy hypothesis, but it makes sense to me. Like Keep On Runnin does. :lol:


I don't wanna put words in your mouth, but that sounds an awful lot like paternalistic social engineering to me. I'll take a raincheck on that!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:15 am

Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


involved in what? whatever it is shouldn't that be the job of the parents... not the prez? why talk to kids so young? do four year olds even know what a potus is? or even care? he wants to talk to kids about staying in school? maybe he should talk to the older kids... not the pre-k - 6th graders... i don't think they're the one's dropping out of school. hahahaa.

so far it's been nothing but propaganda... even tho obama is already prez he's still in campaign mode.

the prez wants people to trust him... then maybe he shouldn't be surrounded himself with such crazy ass people. he is seriously lacking good judgement... i wouldn't want anyone like that influencing my young child's mind... regardless of who it is.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:19 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


involved in what? whatever it is shouldn't that be the job of the parents... not the prez? why talk to kids so young? do four year olds even know what a potus is? or even care? he wants to talk to kids about staying in school? maybe he should talk to the older kids... not the pre-k - 6th graders... i don't think they're the one's dropping out of school. hahahaa.

so far it's been nothing but propaganda... even tho obama is already prez he's still in campaign mode.

the prez wants people to trust him... then maybe he shouldn't be surrounded himself with such crazy ass people. he is seriously lacking good judgement... i wouldn't want anyone like that influencing my young child's mind... regardless of who it is.


I am 23 and the thing that blows my mind is the ignorance of my generation. We are children of the Clinton generation, we grew up with an unprecedented scandal and a massively untrustworthy president, yet all these blind sheep buffoons voted for Obama without even knowing his views and associations from a keg of Busch Light at the frat house. It was hilarious asking people in my general age group questions about him when they were running around trumpeting the Hope and Change last fall. Know nothings, nearly all of em.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:20 am

Rick wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


That's the job of the parents and teachers, not the job of the POTUS, much less a job dispensed in an hour. There's a happy medium between oversheltering your kids and making sure they have appropriate perspective for their age. A lot of parents and teachers don't know anything, so how can we expect kids to know anything.


I know it's the parents job, but they're not doing it. So the logic is, get the kids involved and it will drag the parents into it. It's just my crazy hypothesis, but it makes sense to me. Like Keep On Runnin does. :lol:


why is this the job of the gov? how much do you want them intruding in your life? next they'll be making plans to have people come to your house to show you how to be a good parent... oh wait! }:CP
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Postby Rick » Sun Sep 06, 2009 1:44 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
Rick wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


That's the job of the parents and teachers, not the job of the POTUS, much less a job dispensed in an hour. There's a happy medium between oversheltering your kids and making sure they have appropriate perspective for their age. A lot of parents and teachers don't know anything, so how can we expect kids to know anything.


I know it's the parents job, but they're not doing it. So the logic is, get the kids involved and it will drag the parents into it. It's just my crazy hypothesis, but it makes sense to me. Like Keep On Runnin does. :lol:


why is this the job of the gov? how much do you want them intruding in your life? next they'll be making plans to have people come to your house to show you how to be a good parent... oh wait! }:CP


There's nothing wrong with inspiring kids. If the President can't do that, then who can? This country is just about completely unmotivated anymore. To turn that around, you've got to start somewhere, and there's no better place to start than with the children. They're impressionable and if the message is good, I don't see how it could hurt.

If it's bullshit propaganda, I'll be very disappointed.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:08 am

Rick wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Rick wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


That's the job of the parents and teachers, not the job of the POTUS, much less a job dispensed in an hour. There's a happy medium between oversheltering your kids and making sure they have appropriate perspective for their age. A lot of parents and teachers don't know anything, so how can we expect kids to know anything.


I know it's the parents job, but they're not doing it. So the logic is, get the kids involved and it will drag the parents into it. It's just my crazy hypothesis, but it makes sense to me. Like Keep On Runnin does. :lol:


why is this the job of the gov? how much do you want them intruding in your life? next they'll be making plans to have people come to your house to show you how to be a good parent... oh wait! }:CP


There's nothing wrong with inspiring kids. If the President can't do that, then who can? This country is just about completely unmotivated anymore. To turn that around, you've got to start somewhere, and there's no better place to start than with the children. They're impressionable and if the message is good, I don't see how it could hurt.

If it's bullshit propaganda, I'll be very disappointed.


Parents, siblings, athletic coaches, grandparents, uncles, aunts, and teachers, just to start, are all far more capable of inspiring youngsters through direct influence than some mythical figure they might see once or twice a year on TV.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:12 am

Rick wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Rick wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


That's the job of the parents and teachers, not the job of the POTUS, much less a job dispensed in an hour. There's a happy medium between oversheltering your kids and making sure they have appropriate perspective for their age. A lot of parents and teachers don't know anything, so how can we expect kids to know anything.


I know it's the parents job, but they're not doing it. So the logic is, get the kids involved and it will drag the parents into it. It's just my crazy hypothesis, but it makes sense to me. Like Keep On Runnin does. :lol:


why is this the job of the gov? how much do you want them intruding in your life? next they'll be making plans to have people come to your house to show you how to be a good parent... oh wait! }:CP


There's nothing wrong with inspiring kids. If the President can't do that, then who can? This country is just about completely unmotivated anymore. To turn that around, you've got to start somewhere, and there's no better place to start than with the children. They're impressionable and if the message is good, I don't see how it could hurt.

If it's bullshit propaganda, I'll be very disappointed.


obama has a czar who is a "truther"... he believes that our gov planned 911. either obama didn't know this (wtf?) or he doesn't care (WTF?)...

either obama is naive or he knows exactly what's going on... equally scary.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:15 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Rick wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


That's the job of the parents and teachers, not the job of the POTUS, much less a job dispensed in an hour. There's a happy medium between oversheltering your kids and making sure they have appropriate perspective for their age. A lot of parents and teachers don't know anything, so how can we expect kids to know anything.


I know it's the parents job, but they're not doing it. So the logic is, get the kids involved and it will drag the parents into it. It's just my crazy hypothesis, but it makes sense to me. Like Keep On Runnin does. :lol:


why is this the job of the gov? how much do you want them intruding in your life? next they'll be making plans to have people come to your house to show you how to be a good parent... oh wait! }:CP


There's nothing wrong with inspiring kids. If the President can't do that, then who can? This country is just about completely unmotivated anymore. To turn that around, you've got to start somewhere, and there's no better place to start than with the children. They're impressionable and if the message is good, I don't see how it could hurt.

If it's bullshit propaganda, I'll be very disappointed.


Parents, siblings, athletic coaches, grandparents, uncles, aunts, and teachers, just to start, are all far more capable of inspiring youngsters through direct influence than some mythical figure they might see once or twice a year on TV.


obama is the new barney. }:CP
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Postby Rick » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:16 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Rick wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rick wrote:
Eric wrote:
Lula wrote:that is totally messed up to refuse a mother's request to be in class. not acceptable, not at all.


I called my daughter's school and talked with the Principal to see what their intentions are. I asked if she'd consider showing it the next day but she thinks its important that the kids see it live. I don't understand. She said I was welcome to send a note in excusing Ally from watching it...but that would be creepier than Obama directly speaking to students I think...especially on the first day to Kindergarten. So I guess I'll just talk with her and explain that a President is someone you listen to and respect but he or she isn't always right. She's only 4..(5 in 3 weeks)..I don't know if I should even say anything and at the same time still don't understand why there is a long speech being given to her?

I'm thinking that there is a 90% chance this is just silly...but a 10% chance that he's trying to influence young children politically...I guess that 10% is enough to concern me. I just don't want him to say something about paying attention in Science class so you can learn about the dangers of Global warming.....you know, something like that.


Hopefully he's just trying to get the kids more involved. People are content living their lives and that leaves them unaware of anything outside that little safe cocoon. Getting kids involved is the best way to get everyone involved.

If it turns out to be partisan propaganda, I'll be hugely disappointed.


That's the job of the parents and teachers, not the job of the POTUS, much less a job dispensed in an hour. There's a happy medium between oversheltering your kids and making sure they have appropriate perspective for their age. A lot of parents and teachers don't know anything, so how can we expect kids to know anything.


I know it's the parents job, but they're not doing it. So the logic is, get the kids involved and it will drag the parents into it. It's just my crazy hypothesis, but it makes sense to me. Like Keep On Runnin does. :lol:


why is this the job of the gov? how much do you want them intruding in your life? next they'll be making plans to have people come to your house to show you how to be a good parent... oh wait! }:CP


There's nothing wrong with inspiring kids. If the President can't do that, then who can? This country is just about completely unmotivated anymore. To turn that around, you've got to start somewhere, and there's no better place to start than with the children. They're impressionable and if the message is good, I don't see how it could hurt.

If it's bullshit propaganda, I'll be very disappointed.


Parents, siblings, athletic coaches, grandparents, uncles, aunts, and teachers, just to start, are all far more capable of inspiring youngsters through direct influence than some mythical figure they might see once or twice a year on TV.


obama is the new barney. }:CP


I remember a time when parents very much encouraged their kids to watch the president speak. It's a very sad time now.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:31 am

Rick wrote:I remember a time when parents very much encouraged their kids to watch the president speak. It's a very sad time now.


I remember a time when this country had some notion of shared values and what it means to be an American. It's a very sad time now.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:17 am

where did tnc's posts go?

oh well... he was nice enough to send what he said to me here in a pm...

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obama has a czar who is a "truther"... he believes that our gov planned 911. either obama didn't know this (wtf?) or he doesn't care (WTF?)...

No, Van Jones signed a petition to re-open an investigation into 9-11.
An effort also supported by the likes of Ralph Nader and numerous family members of 9-11 victims.
Considering the last administration initially refused to investigate the biggest terrorist act of all time, and then stonewalled it, what is wrong with that?
When all was said and done, the JFK assasination had THREE federal investigations into it.
As your blubbering messianic overlord, Glenn Beck, might say: "reasonable questions for unreasonable times."

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either obama is naive or he knows exactly what's going on... equally scary.

Wow.
An almost word-for-word regurgitation of Beck's monologue this week.
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:25 am

i don't need glenn beck telling me anything. i felt during the election that obama associated himself with questionable people... way before i even knew what a glenn beck was.
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Postby Barb » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:32 am

treetopovskaya wrote:where did tnc's posts go?

oh well... he was nice enough to send what he said to me here in a pm...

STOP LYING BRAINLESS TWIT
treetopovskaya wrote:

obama has a czar who is a "truther"... he believes that our gov planned 911. either obama didn't know this (wtf?) or he doesn't care (WTF?)...

No, Van Jones signed a petition to re-open an investigation into 9-11.
An effort also supported by the likes of Ralph Nader and numerous family members of 9-11 victims.
Considering the last administration initially refused to investigate the biggest terrorist act of all time, and then stonewalled it, what is wrong with that?
When all was said and done, the JFK assasination had THREE federal investigations into it.
As your blubbering messianic overlord, Glenn Beck, might say: "reasonable questions for unreasonable times."

treetopovskaya wrote:
either obama is naive or he knows exactly what's going on... equally scary.

Wow.
An almost word-for-word regurgitation of Beck's monologue this week.
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

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He PM'd me last week defending Van Jones and telling me Dave and I should demand a refund for being GB Insiders, lol.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:48 am

Barb wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:where did tnc's posts go?

oh well... he was nice enough to send what he said to me here in a pm...

STOP LYING BRAINLESS TWIT
treetopovskaya wrote:

obama has a czar who is a "truther"... he believes that our gov planned 911. either obama didn't know this (wtf?) or he doesn't care (WTF?)...

No, Van Jones signed a petition to re-open an investigation into 9-11.
An effort also supported by the likes of Ralph Nader and numerous family members of 9-11 victims.
Considering the last administration initially refused to investigate the biggest terrorist act of all time, and then stonewalled it, what is wrong with that?
When all was said and done, the JFK assasination had THREE federal investigations into it.
As your blubbering messianic overlord, Glenn Beck, might say: "reasonable questions for unreasonable times."

treetopovskaya wrote:
either obama is naive or he knows exactly what's going on... equally scary.

Wow.
An almost word-for-word regurgitation of Beck's monologue this week.
Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

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He PM'd me last week defending Van Jones and telling me Dave and I should demand a refund for being GB Insiders, lol.


At least he didn't tell you twice in one post that he "wished there was an I.E.D. with your name on it in Iraq"!!!. :shock: That's the worst thing I think I've ever heard anyone say to ANYONE here. :?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:48 am

Fact Finder wrote:BTW, for those who might be wondering about Glenn Becks full frontal attack on Van Jones this week, it was inspired by Van Jones himself, using a front group he works with organizing a boycott of advertisers against Beck and Fox.

Stunning that in America an Administration "Czar", who supposedly works for the people, would be attacking the free enterprise system and private broadcasters, and basically censoring the airwaves. Van Jones admitted he was a Communist and I guess he wasn't lying.


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Postby Barb » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:03 pm

Van Jones resigns...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/electio ... ntroversy/


Way to go Glenn!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Sep 06, 2009 3:04 pm

van jones resigns... or did he? maybe he signed the papers without reading them? };C)

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/200 ... l?wprss=44
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:16 am

Fact Finder wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:BTW, for those who might be wondering about Glenn Becks full frontal attack on Van Jones this week, it was inspired by Van Jones himself, using a front group he works with organizing a boycott of advertisers against Beck and Fox.

Stunning that in America an Administration "Czar", who supposedly works for the people, would be attacking the free enterprise system and private broadcasters, and basically censoring the airwaves. Van Jones admitted he was a Communist and I guess he wasn't lying.


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A poster on another forum said it better than I can. Paraphrase "This is bigger than Rev. Wright because The Won Appointed this guy, and he works directly for the WH. No wiggle room that O hired an avowed Commie. It reinforces the O's radical leanings that liberal voters ignored during the Campaign."


Did anyone notice that Van's wording was very similar to that BO used when he had to defend his stupidity of the past. "I didn't know about that" and "I don't feel that way" were classic (although paraphrased) lines from BO when talking about Bill Ayers, Rev Wright, etc. It's so much BS that it makes me wanna puke. :roll:

I'm glad Jones is gone, but I'm no more confident in the choices that BO makes in his political life.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:01 am

Fact Finder wrote:Image


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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:13 am

Fact Finder wrote:
"On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in his resignation statement. "They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide."


The smear campaign was Van Jones own words and deeds. The videos don't lie Van. You said what you said and you are an admitted Communist. We don't take kindly to Communist in our Whiter House. If you didn't know that when you took the job, you know it now. 8)

Smear campaign my ass. This was a truther campaign. :lol:


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van jones resigned because he knows it's all true... & he shouldn't be anywhere near our prez. now the questions... was obama in the dark about van jones or did he know & not care? is anyone vetting these czars? they should be. these people will be advising OUR president!

glenn beck made a really good point... not vetting is not just dangerous for us reg folks but it puts obama in danger as well. good point!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:46 am

Fact Finder wrote:He was vetted tree. The WH got exactly who they wanted..

How strange that we now learn of Van Jones’s long record of venom, but are told that he did not really mean it, and that the White House was unaware of these statements. Yet we know that Jones was selected because of, not despite, his provocations. Cf. Obama honcho Valerie Jarrett’s ecstasy: “Oooh. Van Jones, alright! So, Van Jones. We were so delighted to be able to recruit him into the White House. We were watching him, uh, really, he’s not that old, for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland. And all the creative ideas he has. And so now, we have captured that. And we have all that energy in the White House.



The next question that needs to be asked is WHY?


maybe he needed more vetting? }:C)
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:48 am

van jones has a great reputation for green jobs. i imagine that is why.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:53 am

this is why i stopped watching main media news YEARS ago (they're CLUELESS)...

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/polit ... 78192.html

what about all the other reasons PEOPLE wanted him out???

*rolls eyes*
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:56 am

he's out, isn't that what you wanted?
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