President Barack Obama - Term 1 and 2 Thread

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Postby donnaplease » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:00 am

Lula wrote:he's out, isn't that what you wanted?



He should've never been there in the first place. With people like this in such high profile positions, it's amazing to me why people would be astonished that the American public has concerns about them getting access to our children.
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:02 am

donna, it's all partisan politics- especially the outcry over the president addressing students the first day of school.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:03 am

Lula wrote:van jones has a great reputation for green jobs. i imagine that is why.


not enough.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:06 am

Lula wrote:he's out, isn't that what you wanted?


you should have wanted him out too. if you were intellectually honest.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:13 am

all this green job talk is bs.

if you eat meat you are NOT being green. if you wear leather you are NOT being green. if you don't reduce, reuse, recycle you are NOT being green.

if you don't buy organic you are NOT being green. if you drive instead of walk you are NOT being green.

there are MANY things we can do in our OWN personal life to help save the earth.

some of us have been doing this for YEARS... without being told by our gov that it's the right thing to do. }:C)
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:15 am

treetopovskaya wrote:all this green job talk is bs.

if you eat meat you are NOT being green. if you wear leather you are NOT being green. if you don't reduce, reuse, recycle you are NOT being green.

if you don't buy organic you are NOT being green. if you drive instead of walk you are NOT being green.

there are MANY things we can do in our OWN personal life to help save the earth.

some of us have been doing this for YEARS... without being told by our gov that it's the right thing to do. }:C)


I will do whatever I want, when I want, in any kind of car I want, and eat any kind of food I want. That is all.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:16 am

Lula wrote:donna, it's all partisan politics- especially the outcry over the president addressing students the first day of school.


obama gives people good reason to be concerned.
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:18 am

Lula wrote:donna, it's all partisan politics- especially the outcry over the president addressing students the first day of school.


I partially agree with that. However, I have always had issues with what I consider poor judgement on the part of BO. He just continues to prove me right, unfortunately. If there are this many concerns that the public is aware of, can you just imagine how much back room crap has gone on that we don't know about. (that goes for all politicians, btw)

This was more than someone having an affair on their spouse, and this stuff needs to come out into the open. Obviously, Glenn Beck wasn't so 'crazy' as some here tried to portray him. I say put it out there, and let the public decide for themselves. The government is by the people, for the people, after all.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:19 am

diapers... VERY bad for the earth.

just saying. }:C)
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:19 am

like i said- partisan politics.

green jobs go way beyond the individual person's daily contribution.
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:21 am

speaking of diapers, i smell something :lol:
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:25 am

Lula wrote:like i said- partisan politics.

green jobs go way beyond the individual person's daily contribution.


We're in crisis mode, we need a JOB czar. Whatever happened to those 'shovel-ready' jobs we were promised. Because they haven't materialized, my husband has to drive 8 hours to continue to work with the company that he's been working for. The library construction job that was in the works had to get shelved due to lack of funding. Talk about shovel-ready, this thing was all set to go, and we're still waiting.

Obama has been a failure so far in getting things done. He can't blame Glenn Beck, talk radio or even partisan politics for that. There's only one person to blame, and that's the man in the mirror.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:27 am

Lula wrote:speaking of diapers, i smell something :lol:


}:C))
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Postby Barb » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:55 am

Powerline nicely summarizes the problems with (now former) Obama Administration official Van Jones:

Who do they have in the White House? A self-proclaimed Communist. A vulgar Marxist twice over. A supporter of cold-blooded cop killer Mumia Abu Jamal. A 9/11 Truther . A racist hater, whose hatred extends to the United States. And insofar as his current job is concerned, we have a man who sees the "green jobs" con as a tool for overthrowing capitalism. We have, in short, the complete left-wing nightmare package.


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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:59 am

maybe they should hire beck as their vetting czar. }:C))
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:14 am

"judge me by the people who surround me" ~ obama

http://www.examiner.com/x-3704-Columbia ... urround-me
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:27 am

Fact Finder wrote:

Good grief Lula....Hitler made the trains run on time, had a great reputation for that, was he ok with you as well?



absolutely disgusting.

i know 2 holocaust survivors and descendants of others, very insensitive and insulting to say the least.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:41 am

Lula wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:

Good grief Lula....Hitler made the trains run on time, had a great reputation for that, was he ok with you as well?



absolutely disgusting.

i know 2 holocaust survivors and descendants of others, very insensitive and insulting to say the least.


you missed his point.
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Postby Gin and Tonic Sky » Mon Sep 07, 2009 5:27 am

Fact Finder wrote:And now on to the newest scandal from DC....

No.10 turns on Obama and Clinton for criticising decision to release Lockerbie bomber

President Obama and the US Secretary of State fuelled a fierce American backlash against Britain, claiming Abdelbaset Al Megrahi should have been forced to serve out his jail sentence in Scotland – but a senior Whitehall aide said their reaction was ‘disingenuous’.

British officials claim Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton were kept informed at all stages of discussions concerning Megrahi’s return.

The officials say the Americans spoke out because they were taken aback by the row over Megrahi’s release, not because they did not know it was about to happen.

‘The US was kept fully in touch about everything that was going on with regard to Britain’s discussions with Libya in recent years and about Megrahi,’ said the Whitehall aide.

‘We would never do anything about Lockerbie without discussing it with the US. It is disingenuous of them to act as though Megrahi’s return was out of the blue.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0QLOUtMPr

O seems intent on upsetting our good frieds across the pond. Not good.



Well, you cant trust what NO 10's spokesmen say anymore than what Obama's officials at State say. Im sure the actual truth is somewhat different than what this article was saying (although it is true that the Bush administration was urging Britain to normalise ties wiht Libya in recogintion of its abandoment of WMD, so what did we expect Britain to do??

The real problem is that neither Brown nor Obama give 2 shits about the relatinship between the US and Britain. It was a boner of a decison to release al Megrahi but it either govt were putting the alliance first the situation would have been handled differently. Now thanks to their piss poor leadership, we are hearing a bunch of nonsensical anti British crap, countered with nonsensical anti-American crap. And the people on both sides throwing the crap seem to niave to understand how desparately the US/UK need each other on the world stage.
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:01 am

Fact Finder wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Lula wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:

Good grief Lula....Hitler made the trains run on time, had a great reputation for that, was he ok with you as well?



absolutely disgusting.

i know 2 holocaust survivors and descendants of others, very insensitive and insulting to say the least.


you missed his point.


Whoosh....right over her head. Oh well, I tried.


to even use hitler's train running as an example is ludicrous, disgusting, and now you add insult to injury by stating i missed the point. you're sick, as are those finding this remark acceptable. the fact that the right uses hitler time and again as a reference to the president of the united states is beyond disrespectful and unpatriotic.
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:27 am

Fact Finder wrote:Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

You excused Van Jones (not POTUS) from being an avowed Communist by saying he had a good reputation in green jobs. Therefore I take that in your view a Communist working in the WH is ok with you.

I illustrated the absurdidty of that by being absurd with the Hitler comparison of having a good reputation for running the trains, and the example of being absurd went right over your head. You took it in a whole different direction (personally) when it was never intended as such. Or maybe, like the articles I post, you really didn't even read my post, saw the word Hitler and reacted without fact.


no, ff, i don't have a reading comprehension problem. perhaps i misunderstood when i responded to the question as to "why?" which i understood as 'why was jones brought into the white hose?' to which i responded because of his reputation with developing green jobs.

i have not excused anything. get it right. you might want to look at your own comprehension skills. it's not the word "hitler" i reacted to, but the insensitive remark about running trains on time. personal? i don't know, but certainly offensive and not just to me i'm sure.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:47 am

Lula wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Lula wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:

Good grief Lula....Hitler made the trains run on time, had a great reputation for that, was he ok with you as well?



absolutely disgusting.

i know 2 holocaust survivors and descendants of others, very insensitive and insulting to say the least.


you missed his point.


Whoosh....right over her head. Oh well, I tried.


to even use hitler's train running as an example is ludicrous, disgusting, and now you add insult to injury by stating i missed the point. you're sick, as are those finding this remark acceptable. the fact that the right uses hitler time and again as a reference to the president of the united states is beyond disrespectful and unpatriotic.


i wasn't offended by what ff said because i got the point he was making.

when bush was in office it was the left that used hitler time and again.
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:52 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
Lula wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Lula wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:

Good grief Lula....Hitler made the trains run on time, had a great reputation for that, was he ok with you as well?



absolutely disgusting.

i know 2 holocaust survivors and descendants of others, very insensitive and insulting to say the least.


you missed his point.


Whoosh....right over her head. Oh well, I tried.


to even use hitler's train running as an example is ludicrous, disgusting, and now you add insult to injury by stating i missed the point. you're sick, as are those finding this remark acceptable. the fact that the right uses hitler time and again as a reference to the president of the united states is beyond disrespectful and unpatriotic.


i wasn't offended by what ff said because i got the point he was making.

when bush was in office it was the left that used hitler time and again.


Didn't I recently hear someone using mention of swastika's (?sp) in reference to the American public outcry over the healthcare proposal??? I could be wrong, but I believe that came from the opposite end of the political spectrum... That dude that shares Joan Rivers' plastic surgeon, Nancy Pelosi.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:58 am

http://larouchepac.com/

these people stand outside my store at least once a week. i don't think they're righties. };C)
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:02 am

donnaplease wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Lula wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Lula wrote:
Fact Finder wrote:

Good grief Lula....Hitler made the trains run on time, had a great reputation for that, was he ok with you as well?



absolutely disgusting.

i know 2 holocaust survivors and descendants of others, very insensitive and insulting to say the least.


you missed his point.


Whoosh....right over her head. Oh well, I tried.


to even use hitler's train running as an example is ludicrous, disgusting, and now you add insult to injury by stating i missed the point. you're sick, as are those finding this remark acceptable. the fact that the right uses hitler time and again as a reference to the president of the united states is beyond disrespectful and unpatriotic.


i wasn't offended by what ff said because i got the point he was making.

when bush was in office it was the left that used hitler time and again.


Didn't I recently hear someone using mention of swastika's (?sp) in reference to the American public outcry over the healthcare proposal??? I could be wrong, but I believe that came from the opposite end of the political spectrum... That dude that shares Joan Rivers' plastic surgeon, Nancy Pelosi.


YES!!

plus... last week it was an obama health plan supporter that bit the finger off some old man. so far i don't think the "brown shirts" have bitten anyone.
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Postby Lula » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:15 am

time to heed the advice of another and get out of dodge.
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Postby Rick » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:22 am

Lula wrote:time to heed the advice of another and get out of dodge.


Yep, they'll tag team you all day. I'd jump in, but I'm not in the mood to argue with the wall today.
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Postby donnaplease » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:34 am

Rick wrote:
Lula wrote:time to heed the advice of another and get out of dodge.


Yep, they'll tag team you all day. I'd jump in, but I'm not in the mood to argue with the wall today.


Coward! :P

No arguing going on here. It's just not as much fun when you're on the side having to defend yourself every time you turn around. Unfortunately, when we decide to engage in political discussion, that turnaround happens.
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Postby Barb » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:14 am

Glenn Beck wrote:I expect that questioning to continue for the foreseeable future."


Glenn is going to get himself killed. He's screwing with some very powerful thugs.
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Postby Rick » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:46 am

Fact Finder wrote:So...

- Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you realize you're wrong.

:lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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