09.07.09 Journey @ Mohegan Sun Arena, Uncasville, CT

[Michigan Girl]

Good review..... But....tick tick tick...I expect a full dissection of this review by the loons, beginning very soon. Ya just can't say anything nice about Journey without a counter-argument

Thanks for posting it!

Yeah, I find fault w/a couple of ignorant remarks, but overall pretty good review!!!

Steveo you give Pinheads everywhere a bad name....

[Saint John]

Review after review after review continue to say the same thing...that these guys are putting on a hell of a show. In the end, that's what people are going to read and that will continue to put asses into seats.

[steveo777]

OOPS Wrong Thread

I think the even a bit better refers to the venue and being able to see the band as opposed to sitting way in the back in 1986.

You're right. I'm sure that's exactly what she meant.

[SYNCH]

First video clip from Mohegan Sun Arena:

Patiently/WCTNGOF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed7xKIROKzQ

Nice Arnel, keep it up!

[jrnyjetster]

I will say this...I commend the guys for at least playing some songs that their fans want to hear. That tells me that Neal is at least perusing this site and listening to the people who pay his bills! While Arnel certainly isn't Perry, I think he's a very gifted singer, and EASILY the ONLY guy they've had since Perry left who can perform these songs even half as well as Perry did! After watching Augeri for years not even attempting to hit any notes, it's refreshing to see a guy who at least gives it a shot!

I'm fucking shocked....you actually had something positive to say about this lineup!?

[stevew2]

Jrnyjetster Strengegrey will not give this band a break. Read all his posts and he has a dislike for this band now with Arnel fronting it. This is the same guy starting crap on Pinoy sites.
No singer is perfect everytime out even Perry. I remember Perry not hitting the note correctly but so what he was singing the best he could.I believe Perry would be very proud of hearing this.

Shut the fuck up Bozo. Take your own advice and go drown yourself in a septic tank. Just maybe you'll come out a bit cleaner. All you do is lie in wait for Strangegrey and myself. How does Neal's pearl jam taste? You're a dickless sack with no clue. Go fuck yourself.

Nice language Deano, I see you are still lying, lying about things with the band. Are you off the meds???

Your act is getting old. Come up with some new material.You dont contibute shit here.You promote your lame bullshit, and whine and bitch when you get offended.

[Ehwmatt]

Jrnyjetster Strengegrey will not give this band a break. Read all his posts and he has a dislike for this band now with Arnel fronting it. This is the same guy starting crap on Pinoy sites.
No singer is perfect everytime out even Perry. I remember Perry not hitting the note correctly but so what he was singing the best he could.I believe Perry would be very proud of hearing this.

Shut the fuck up Bozo. Take your own advice and go drown yourself in a septic tank. Just maybe you'll come out a bit cleaner. All you do is lie in wait for Strangegrey and myself. How does Neal's pearl jam taste? You're a dickless sack with no clue. Go fuck yourself.

Nice language Deano, I see you are still lying, lying about things with the band. Are you off the meds???

Your act is getting old. Come up with some new material.You dont contibute shit here.You promote your lame bullshit, and whine and bitch when you get offended.

Why did your dog pic get that thread locked up, they are beautiful mutts

[stevew2]

First video clip from Mohegan Sun Arena:

Patiently/WCTNGOF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed7xKIROKzQ

Nice Arnel, keep it up!

I was impressed he even tried it,i thought he he did really good,tuned down or not, id rather hear both songs done separately with full band. At least I didnt have to look at Friga

[stevew2]

Jrnyjetster Strengegrey will not give this band a break. Read all his posts and he has a dislike for this band now with Arnel fronting it. This is the same guy starting crap on Pinoy sites.
No singer is perfect everytime out even Perry. I remember Perry not hitting the note correctly but so what he was singing the best he could.I believe Perry would be very proud of hearing this.

Shut the fuck up Bozo. Take your own advice and go drown yourself in a septic tank. Just maybe you'll come out a bit cleaner. All you do is lie in wait for Strangegrey and myself. How does Neal's pearl jam taste? You're a dickless sack with no clue. Go fuck yourself.

Nice language Deano, I see you are still lying, lying about things with the band. Are you off the meds???

Your act is getting old. Come up with some new material.You dont contibute shit here.You promote your lame bullshit, and whine and bitch when you get offended.

Why did your dog pic get that thread locked up, they are beautiful mutts

I dont know, Im being stalked

[Enigma869]

I'm fucking shocked....you actually had something positive to say about this lineup!?

Don't even know what you're talking about. I haven't posted on these boards in many months so haven't said much of anything about anyone. I was on record when "Revelation" came out that there were some good tracks on there. I'm simply not a Journey kiss-ass or suckup who thinks that ANYTHING Schon wants to do is okay. Schon is living off of a legacy that was built more by the former lead singer than it was by him, and someone should hold his feet to the fire when he doesn't respect the name that pays his bills! Some of you clowns on this board would endorse Neal hiring a country singer to be Journey's frontman. The reality is that Neal fucked up, IN A BIG WAY, when he hired both Augeri and Soto. While they're both good guys, neither guy was the right fit for this catalog, period! If you want endless Journey sucking up, you should head over to the band's official website. That place is a fucking cesspool filled with amoebas who can't form a single, independent thought!

[Jana]

Well, I can say one thing from seeing some of the clips from this show: Arnel's voice has held up really well during this tour. His vocals sound really clear, very strong delivery.

[Eric]

Jrnyjetster Strengegrey will not give this band a break. Read all his posts and he has a dislike for this band now with Arnel fronting it. This is the same guy starting crap on Pinoy sites.
No singer is perfect everytime out even Perry. I remember Perry not hitting the note correctly but so what he was singing the best he could.I believe Perry would be very proud of hearing this.

Frank is pretty fair overall...he said what he liked about Relevation even.

[Don]

Well, I can say one thing from seeing some of the clips from this show: Arnel's voice has held up really well during this tour. His vocals sound really clear, very strong delivery.

They'll probably add 20 or more shows for the next tour since it will an album year. After hitting the studio, he'll have three months to rest up if the rumors of going back out on the road in March are true.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Well, I can say one thing from seeing some of the clips from this show: Arnel's voice has held up really well during this tour. His vocals sound really clear, very strong delivery.

They'll probably add 20 or more shows for the next tour since it will an album year. After hitting the studio, he'll have three months to rest up if the rumors of going back out on the road in March are true.

What concerns me is heading right into the studio following a tour that stretched from March to early October. Even though they've had more off-days than in years past, I'm still a little worried about the quality of Arnel's vocal output if he's expecting to sing on a full-length album right after essentially touring for six months with few breaks.

Ideally, to me at least, once the tour ends in October recording wouldn't start until early December at the earliest. Give Arnel time to learn the music, get the feel for the songs, rest his voice and then be ready to go. But that would delay the whole album process and it wouldn't be out in time for the start of the summer album tour (although having the album out before the Summer 2010 Tour still seems too optimistic to me...)

But getting back to Jana's point - they absolutely have handled Arnel's voice very well this tour. He's held up much better overall and the sets have even been longer than last summer. The band has taken generous breaks spaced out throughout the tour, done more "every-other" sequences this year than I can ever remember in year's past and haven't done more than two shows in a row at any point. That has to continue next tour.

[Don]

Well, I can say one thing from seeing some of the clips from this show: Arnel's voice has held up really well during this tour. His vocals sound really clear, very strong delivery.

They'll probably add 20 or more shows for the next tour since it will an album year. After hitting the studio, he'll have three months to rest up if the rumors of going back out on the road in March are true.

What concerns me is heading right into the studio following a tour that stretched from March to early October. Even though they've had more off-days than in years past, I'm still a little worried about the quality of Arnel's vocal output if he's expecting to sing on a full-length album right after essentially touring for six months with few breaks.

Ideally, to me at least, once the tour ends in October recording wouldn't start until early December at the earliest. Give Arnel time to learn the music, get the feel for the songs, rest his voice and then be ready to go. But that would delay the whole album process and it wouldn't be out in time for the start of the summer album tour (although having the album out before the Summer 2010 Tour still seems too optimistic to me...)

But getting back to Jana's point - they absolutely have handled Arnel's voice very well this tour. He's held up much better overall and the sets have even been longer than last summer. The band has taken generous breaks spaced out throughout the tour, done more "every-other" sequences this year than I can ever remember in year's past and haven't done more than two shows in a row at any point. That has to continue next tour.

I will be curious to see how they handle more dates. Do they stretch the tour another month more or do they sneak back to doing a few three in a row shows, here and there?
I bet the shorter the tour, Time-wise, the happier Arnel would be. Just because he can bring his wife with him doesn't mean he's fine with touring for six months, does it?

[fightingilliniJRNY]

I will be curious to see how they handle more dates. Do they stretch the tour another month more or do they sneak back to doing a few three in a row shows, here and there?
I bet the shorter the tour, Time-wise, the happier Arnel would be. Just because he can bring his wife with him doesn't mean he's fine with touring for six months, does it?

Ideally, I would think they would want to just start the tour earlier or end it later and keep the same show scheduling strategy. I think the benefits of spreading the shows out and not doing nine or 10 shows every two weeks are very, very apparent. But then again, doing that would mean they have to pay the crew for a longer time frame, rent the equipment for longer, gas the buses more, etc.

AC/DC's Black Ice Tour spans a long time on the calendar, but in actuality they haven't done that many shows, relatively speaking for the amount of calendar time this tour has been going on, since they NEVER do back-to-back shows. It's all a trade off. Do you do a 50-show album tour in three months, or do you do it in three and a half or four months...

[Don]

People complaining about the sound again. This is unbelievable, almost every other show.

The folks are still giving good reviews but there is obviously an issue here.

[steveo777]

People complaining about the sound again. This is unbelievable, almost every other show.

The folks are still giving good reviews but there is obviously an issue here.

What is it anyways, the hired sound crew, the equipment, the venue's people? I have no idea, but you'd think someone's feet should be held to the fire and fix this shit! I can't believe Neal or their manager lets this crap continue. Unbelievable is an understatement! One thing I can say is that when I saw Night Ranger a few weeks ago, their sound was awsome, despite the crappy, aged fair stage they were on.

[Don]

People complaining about the sound again. This is unbelievable, almost every other show.

The folks are still giving good reviews but there is obviously an issue here.

What is it anyways, the hired sound crew, the equipment, the venue's people? I have no idea, but you'd think someone's feet should be held to the fire and fix this shit! I can't believe Neal or their manager lets this crap continue. Unbelievable is an understatement!

Neal's got to know. All these complaints are coming from the official site. What's Neal going to do? Tell all those people to stay home also?

Quite a few people have mentioned the opening acts sounding fine, so it doesn't appear to be a venue problem.

Maybe Schon's starting to lose his hearing.

[annie89509]

First video clip from Mohegan Sun Arena:

Patiently/WCTNGOF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed7xKIROKzQ

Nice Arnel, keep it up!

sorry to be a debbie downer ... it was very hard to watch/listen Arnel singing those 2 songs ... of all the songs in their catalog, why those 2?

We all know the origin of Patiently ... the first song that Steve&Neal ever wrote together ... it was also the story of Steve dreaming of making it in the music business ... so, obviously a song very dear and personal to his heart.

As for WCTNGOF ... it is a song very dear and personal to us loons, as it is the last song of the last album Steve recorded with Journey. TBF was .... like an anomaly ... pushed for by the label.

[stevew2]

People complaining about the sound again. This is unbelievable, almost every other show.

The folks are still giving good reviews but there is obviously an issue here.

What is it anyways, the hired sound crew, the equipment, the venue's people? I have no idea, but you'd think someone's feet should be held to the fire and fix this shit! I can't believe Neal or their manager lets this crap continue. Unbelievable is an understatement!

Neal's got to know. All these complaints are coming from the official site. What's Neal going to do? Tell all those people to stay home also?

Quite a few people have mentioned the opening acts sounding fine, so it doesn't appear to be a venue problem.

Maybe Schon's starting to lose his hearing.

Maybe, he is losing his hair

[fightingilliniJRNY]

People complaining about the sound again. This is unbelievable, almost every other show.

The folks are still giving good reviews but there is obviously an issue here.

What is it anyways, the hired sound crew, the equipment, the venue's people? I have no idea, but you'd think someone's feet should be held to the fire and fix this shit! I can't believe Neal or their manager lets this crap continue. Unbelievable is an understatement!

Neal's got to know. All these complaints are coming from the official site. What's Neal going to do? Tell all those people to stay home also?

Quite a few people have mentioned the opening acts sounding fine, so it doesn't appear to be a venue problem.

I'm telling ya, it's the type of venues they are playing. These hockey/smaller basketball arenas are not built with good acoustics for rock shows in mind. The opening act might sound fine because they perform at a lower volume than Journey does as headliner. Once Journey cranks up the sound, it fills the arena differently and causes weird things to happen with how people hear the show. I'm not a sound engineer, so I can't explain exactly.

Nobody complains about sound in amphitheaters (unless they are at the back of the lawn) or when Journey plays in places built for concerts. These indoor, multi-purpose facilities simply aren't made with good acoustics in mind. Sound is going to suffer.