Would a New Perry Solo Album Sell More Than Revelations?

[strangegrey]

Fuck the Legacy. People Justified the re-records last year by saying they were Journey's songs and they could do whatever they wanted with them.
The songwriter can do what ever he wants with them also as he gets paid for the usage regardless. Go for it Steve, re-record the whole catalog if you want. Mix in Oh Sherrie and some other solo hits and let it fly.

But I think you're missing the point. I believe Steve feels that rerecording them would hurt the legacy. I'd agree.....The retreads that Journey pissed down our throats is a defecation on the legacy of the music.

Could you see Led Zeppelin rerecording stairway to heaven with Jason Bonham? It would piss all over the legacy of the original. That's what Journey has done with the retreads. They took some fucking noname off of youtube....slapped him in front of a mic of shitty pre-recorded tracks.....slapped it on a disc...and cheated their way to platinum....


So the point is...I think it's not a case of whether or not Steve Perry CAN re-record his music.....but more so, SHOULD he.


Just because a man can stick his dick into the cornhole of his neighbor's retriever....it doesn't mean he should!

I agree, Frank. No re-records of Journey music. He doesn't need to do that.

Actually, I don't care one way or the other...I just needed a preamble to work the cornhole comment in!

[journeyrock]

Do you think it would help boost album sales if Perry added a re-recording of "Don't Stop Believin'"?

I don't see why he would need to. He sang the originals. And that's the one that's breaking all the records. All the re-records were for were to erase his voice from Journey in this generation. And it still hasn't worked.....IMO!!!!

[journeyrock]

Maybe Perry can tour the country of his parents' origin Portugal with Randy Jackson on bass guitar and do a remote American Idol from Portugal to tap into his heritage? I'm sure they could easily sell 500k of his new solo album to the Portugese people to match Arnel's sales from the Phillipines.

I am sure that Perry is already onto this strategy due to his personal advisers who frequent this forum.

I resemble that remark!

[Babyblue]

Do you think it would help boost album sales if Perry added a re-recording of "Don't Stop Believin'"?

I would love it if he did this...

Perry would never do this. He respects the legacy and the catalog too much, unlike his blood sucking "brothers" who just need more money to renovate the Open Arms pool and pay a handful of ex-wives monthly.

[Red13JoePa]

Put it this way, back when albums actually SOLD in 1994 his last did about 250,000 less than Revelation did withOUT Revelation having the benefit of adjustment to 1994 sales numbers. ADDED to which perry did a (well, at least a partial tour) behind FTLOSM. He will get absolutely waxed by Journey's Revelation numbers. That's IF he put something out. Had Revelation flopped instead of going Platinum and he wanted to put an album out you might've seen it then b/c he might think he could top them.

[conversationpc]

Could you see Led Zeppelin rerecording stairway to heaven with Jason Bonham? It would piss all over the legacy of the original.

Yes. Didn't Jimmy Page piss on "Kashmir" with that numbskull Puff Daddy? If he'd do it with that tune, I wouldn't put them past doing the same thing to "Stairway to Heaven" if they were offered enough coin for it.

[Saint John]

Could you see Led Zeppelin rerecording stairway to heaven with Jason Bonham? It would piss all over the legacy of the original.

Yes. Didn't Jimmy Page piss on "Kashmir" with that numbskull Puff Daddy? If he'd do it with that tune, I wouldn't put them past doing the same thing to "Stairway to Heaven" if they were offered enough coin for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvA26p6wMYc

[Don]

All he needs to do is show up on Larry King Live and start talking about DSB. His handlers surely could arrange that, then let the rest take care of itself.

[Saint John]

All he needs to do is show up on Larry King Live and start talking about DSB. His handlers surely could arrange that, then let the rest take care of itself.

Perry avoids any interview that might actually have tough questions. And tough questions are not his forte. When faced with a tough question he seems to lie or give a dumb answer like he never felt like a part of the band, some shit about re-entering the Earth's atmosphere without heat tiles or getting off of Merry Go Rounds. He should stick to what he does best...singing. He has the personality of a sun dried dildo and the last handful of Fan Asylum messages to prove it!

[kgdjpubs]

If they promoted him as the voice of Journey making his long-awaited return and really put the overall PR machine on overdrive then PROBABLY.

The PR caveat here is crucial. I don't believe SP is anywhere near the household name that we think he is. There is no comparison between him, and say, Whitney Houston whose #1 debut I think is the origin of this question.

Agreed. Perry is a name, but one that has virtually managed to kill his name thru inaction. That means most people don't know who he is. They might recognize the voice, but "Steve Perry" means less and less each year he doesn't do anything. Do the right PR and you can point out the legacy and who he is and get something like a Roy Orbison-like comeback (ie taking someone from non-relevance to relevance). Do poor PR and the album will be considered a failure.

I'll add one more thing--touring. He'd have to do something to get his name out there. Touring would keep him above ground and in the public conscience for a while--which would give the album a chance to sell. If all he would do is record an album and disappear, he's better off staying underground. The big question is--does he want to be a working musician again? That would be a hard strain on body, mind and voice at 60 to try a comeback.

[Don]

All he needs to do is show up on Larry King Live and start talking about DSB. His handlers surely could arrange that, then let the rest take care of itself.

Perry avoids any interview that might actually have tough questions. And tough questions are not his forte. When faced with a tough question he seems to lie or give a dumb answer like he never felt like a part of the band, some shit about re-entering the Earth's atmosphere without heat tiles or getting off of Merry Go Rounds. He should stick to what he does best...singing. He has the personality of a sun dried dildo and the last handful of Fan Asylum messages to prove it!

When is the last time Larry has asked tough questions?

[strangegrey]

Put it this way, back when albums actually SOLD in 1994 his last did about 250,000 less than Revelation did withOUT Revelation having the benefit of adjustment to 1994 sales numbers. ADDED to which perry did a (well, at least a partial tour) behind FTLOSM. He will get absolutely waxed by Journey's Revelation numbers. That's IF he put something out. Had Revelation flopped instead of going Platinum and he wanted to put an album out you might've seen it then b/c he might think he could top them.

Don't you mean half-platinum??

I think we should compare apples to apples, don't you think?

[Saint John]

All he needs to do is show up on Larry King Live and start talking about DSB. His handlers surely could arrange that, then let the rest take care of itself.

Perry avoids any interview that might actually have tough questions. And tough questions are not his forte. When faced with a tough question he seems to lie or give a dumb answer like he never felt like a part of the band, some shit about re-entering the Earth's atmosphere without heat tiles or getting off of Merry Go Rounds. He should stick to what he does best...singing. He has the personality of a sun dried dildo and the last handful of Fan Asylum messages to prove it!

When is the last time Larry has asked tough questions?

That may or may not be a good point as I don't watch that creep. But with such a successful career I figured he was a pretty fair interviewer that asked some difficult questions.

[Michigan Girl]

All he needs to do is show up on Larry King Live and start talking about DSB. His handlers surely could arrange that, then let the rest take care of itself.

Perry avoids any interview that might actually have tough questions. And tough questions are not his forte. When faced with a tough question he seems to lie or give a dumb answer like he never felt like a part of the band, some shit about re-entering the Earth's atmosphere without heat tiles or getting off of Merry Go Rounds. He should stick to what he does best...singing. He has the personality of a sun dried dildo and the last handful of Fan Asylum messages to prove it!

You sure like to quote him!!!

[KDOUBLEU]

All he needs to do is show up on Larry King Live and start talking about DSB. His handlers surely could arrange that, then let the rest take care of itself.

Perry avoids any interview that might actually have tough questions. And tough questions are not his forte. When faced with a tough question he seems to lie or give a dumb answer like he never felt like a part of the band, some shit about re-entering the Earth's atmosphere without heat tiles or getting off of Merry Go Rounds. He should stick to what he does best...singing. He has the personality of a sun dried dildo and the last handful of Fan Asylum messages to prove it!

HUH??

[conversationpc]

Put it this way, back when albums actually SOLD in 1994 his last did about 250,000 less than Revelation did withOUT Revelation having the benefit of adjustment to 1994 sales numbers. ADDED to which perry did a (well, at least a partial tour) behind FTLOSM. He will get absolutely waxed by Journey's Revelation numbers. That's IF he put something out. Had Revelation flopped instead of going Platinum and he wanted to put an album out you might've seen it then b/c he might think he could top them.

Don't you mean half-platinum??

I think we should compare apples to apples, don't you think?

Regardless of whether or not you think it should or shouldn't be platinum, it still is. Whether it deserves the designation or not is really beside the point.

[JasonD]

What in the hell is a sun dried dildo?

[Red13JoePa]

Put it this way, back when albums actually SOLD in 1994 his last did about 250,000 less than Revelation did withOUT Revelation having the benefit of adjustment to 1994 sales numbers. ADDED to which perry did a (well, at least a partial tour) behind FTLOSM. He will get absolutely waxed by Journey's Revelation numbers. That's IF he put something out. Had Revelation flopped instead of going Platinum and he wanted to put an album out you might've seen it then b/c he might think he could top them.

Don't you mean half-platinum??

I think we should compare apples to apples, don't you think?

OK, it's moved 750,000-800,000. You think think he would approach that when his last record, WITH a tour, before the industry-wide sales went down did around 500K????

His would-be next album (and I'll happilly buy it and add it to my library) vs Revelation is a Tyson-Spinks waiting to happen. And given that perry KNOWS this, I think we'll be waiting a long time for it TO happen.

[Babyblue]

Good question

[Michigan Girl]

What in the hell is a sun dried dildo?

Useless!!!

[JasonD]

What in the hell is a sun dried dildo?

Useless!!!

Who, ME?---- or the sun dried dildo????

[journey361]

None of this talk really matters as far as how much he would sale. I don't care if his name is Peyton Manning or Tiger Woods, if the music isn't any good, it won't do well other than a fan base minium. If Perry's music is really good, it will garner outside the fanbase and onward to another cell-base of listeners.
The music world will speak from record sales and we all will see this a year from now. And for the record, other than MJ and maybe a few others, Perry singing in his day always seemed to come easy to him. But with that being said, i know for a fact from seeing him sing live 10 times in my life, Perry never once took the easy road out, live or studio. Now live, that's a totally different monster and a rare gift few can muster. Not only unreal and unnatural as it is to do, Perry did it and im sure one night in 1982 he thought , "Dam, i'm taking this last 30 minutes off". He never did and always brought his a-game. That is what puts him in my Hall Of Fame, it separates him from any other singer. He was truly the very best.

[Babyblue]

What in the hell is a sun dried dildo?

Useless!!!

Who, ME?---- or the sun dried dildo????

[strangegrey]

OK, it's moved 750,000-800,000. You think think he would approach that when his last record, WITH a tour, before the industry-wide sales went down did around 500K????

His would-be next album (and I'll happilly buy it and add it to my library) vs Revelation is a Tyson-Spinks waiting to happen. And given that perry KNOWS this, I think we'll be waiting a long time for it TO happen.

Listen, I've got no dog in this fight. If I get a good journey album and a Perry solo record too...I'm happy.

I just take exception to the platinum moniker....which is steeped in fraud.

Compare the fact that Pinoy Nation jumped in and boosted the numbers (and I'm not saying that artificially boosted, just knowing that a good percentage of Journey's current sales can be attributed to something).....and you've got a fair fight.


Can Perry do better than Journey, numbers wise?


I think it's all in all possible....the climate is certainly right....


If Perry's voice is on (and I've no reason to believe otherwise, if he releases something)....and he has a few good tracks on the record. I really think Perry could sell some units....enough to beat out the *real* numbers for Rev? Quite Possibly....


Do I care enough? Not really...like I said. I'll happily buy a Perry record and at this point, probably do the same with another Journey record....even if that drunk buffoon is producing it.


....the way I see it, it's a double win for the fans.



But I just want to make sure Pinoy Quaida or their apologists call a spade a spade.....and not give the hireling too much credit....

[steveo777]

None of this talk really matters as far as how much he would sale. I don't care if his name is Peyton Manning or Tiger Woods, if the music isn't any good, it won't do well other than a fan base minium. If Perry's music is really good, it will garner outside the fanbase and onward to another cell-base of listeners.
The music world will speak from record sales and we all will see this a year from now. And for the record, other than MJ and maybe a few others, Perry singing in his day always seemed to come easy to him. But with that being said, i know for a fact from seeing him sing live 10 times in my life, Perry never once took the easy road out, live or studio. Now live, that's a totally different monster and a rare gift few can muster. Not only unreal and unnatural as it is to do, Perry did it and im sure one night in 1982 he thought , "Dam, i'm taking this last 30 minutes off". He never did and always brought his a-game. That is what puts him in my Hall Of Fame, it separates him from any other singer. He was truly the very best.

Hey, kind of like the kind of success David Cassidy had solo, once the Partridge family went off the air?

[Red13JoePa]

Pinoy Nation jumped in and boosted the numbers

Negligable (spell?) given that all fanbases do this. You especially think the sandalwood soaping perry jihadists are above sales stuffing w/ multiple purchases? That all evens out in the end. Shit, I've forked out for TBF 3 times and even GH+5 and FTLOSM twice a pop due to the sonic upgrages.

[Don]

Are the Eagles the last old school rock act to really sell a ton of discs this decade?
Long Road Out Of Eden (2007)
7X Platinum

[kgdjpubs]

Are the Eagles the last old school rock act to really sell a ton of discs this decade?
Long Road Out Of Eden (2007)
7X Platinum

Probably. They are one of the few big acts that actually had some effect with the core membership intact. First new album in 20+ years didn't hurt either.

[Red13JoePa]

Are the Eagles the last old school rock act to really sell a ton of discs this decade?
Long Road Out Of Eden (2007)
7X Platinum

That's unreal, dude.
They kicked ass and eventually I'm buying that. Put Bruce in that category too as I'm pretty sure Magic and WOAD have done BRISK #s...

What did REO's last do, I thought I heard they shifted a good amount of Find Your Own Way Home (another on my list but didn;t get around to buying yet)?

[Ehwmatt]

Are the Eagles the last old school rock act to really sell a ton of discs this decade?
Long Road Out Of Eden (2007)
7X Platinum

The Eagles are in a whole different league though, much more ingrained in Americana... they have an extra generation, if not even 2 generations of fans that absolutely fuckin love them and they've become more heralded over the years after being critically panned in their heyday. It's unfair to compare The Eagles to anyone not in the super big leagues, which includes the likes of U2, Springsteen, Dylan, Stones, McCartney and people of that nature