Foreigner - Ready

[kgdjpubs]

How's he gonna get the hit single?

Well, let's see. Maybe he can pick up a writing utensil and pen a meaningful tune, rather than a rehashed BGTY/MOL and call it NWA. He does have many friends in the biz. he was the "Voice" of a popular American rock/pop band and oh yeah, experienced great success with his solo cd(Street Talk), complete w/o a tour mind you. let's face it, SP can out write JF/NS on pop songs. The singer can always write to his or her voice better than a key player or axeman.

How about this scenario Joepa? Writes a song for a movie that does extremely well. Goes on the talk circuit...View, Ellen, Letterman and Conan. Journey has always had awful, I mean horrid PR, whereas SP has done quite well in that regard. Again, not dissing your guys here, just saying SP does a few things better than them.

After the way Perry walked away from Journey in 1996 without even a tour, which led to the loss of a LOT of $$$ by promoters, I would think any record label would be a little hesitant to sign him to a contract. If it was that easy to get on Letterman and Conan, more bands would be there. If getting a hit single was so easy, we wouldn't be having the discussion of all the 80s bands that can't get radio airplay for new material.

Sure, it's possible that the return of Perry the hermit will generate attention. The fact of the matter though is that the guy has been out of the spotlight--by his own accord--since really 1987. He's a myth--he walked away at the top of his game, and hasn't done much of anything since. He's personally responsible for destroying what could have been a rather successful solo career.

IF he releases an album, the only way that he is going to likely make money is by going on a full tour. Now, barring some wild supergroup that he forms, on his own, he'll be playing 5-10k seat venues. Now, he was having issues the last time he toured, and that was 15 years ago. The advanced age doesn't make singing that catalogue any easier. I'm not totally convinced that his voice at 60 would hold for a full tour of predominantly Journey material.

So, back to the original question....how is he going to get that hit single?

[Don]

I think if Perry performed at small venues with session players and minimal road crew, he could make a nice little pile of dough. No Irving Azoff with his finger in the pie, no equal split among band members, he could make a living off of it. And it's not like the royalties he has been making over the years (and continues to collect) were wasted on anything significant. it's not like has been hanging out in Vegas, blowing money on the tables. I'm thinking if the guy needed money, we would be hearing a lot more Journey music in unexpected places than we do currently.
No significant number of ex-wives with kids or failed start up bands like Neal.
No nine solo albums in the last 15 years that no one has heard of and probably can be looked on more as an expensive hobby for Cain.
No expensive vices like some others, that we know of.
I think a small casual tour is all that Perry needs, just like the kind that Rolie goes out on.

[kgdjpubs]

I think if Perry performed at small venues with session players and minimal road crew, he could make a nice little pile of dough. No Irving Azoff with his finger in the pie, no equal split among band members, he could make a living off of it. And it's not like the royalties he has been making over the years (and continues to collect) were wasted on anything significant.
No significant number of ex-wives with kids or failed start up bands like Neal.
No nine solo albums in the last 15 years that no one has heard of and probably can be looked on more as an expensive hobby for Cain.
No expensive vices like some others, that we know of.
I think a small casual tour is all that Perry needs, just like the kind that Rolie goes out on.

He could definitely make a nice living doing a small tour--especially if he doesn't go overboard on the stage setup, but for whatever reason, he hasn't. Some people just love to be on stage performing, and will do it as long as they possibly can. From his lack of public appearances, either he a) isn't that kind of person..........or b) has some issue with performing that overrides the wanting to do so (vocal or otherwise).

I still stand by my comment that I made quite a while ago. If Perry doesn't come out with something in the near future to capitalize on the Journey name with the success they have had from Revelation, The Sopranos, etc., you'll likely never hear from him again. It's highly unlikely that the timing will be this good again.

[*Laura]

Lot of assumptions there simplifying what has historicly been a blood-sweating, kidney stone passing chore for him: writing, recording and putting it out.

Well, for SP it is. Not a chore, but I think more of a labor of love. He won't be happy with the material too fast. Everyone knows that about him.
So what? Every artist is different - some can squeeze out an album in 3 months ( 2 hits and 9 fillers) while others are taking their time for every little detail. It's called perfectionism and not everyone understands that.
I would rather prefer a perfectly crafted album than a rushed job.
Patience is a virtue.

FIRST he' s got to find a window to get his small army of co/ghost/crutch writers into the studio all at the same time. That alone puts them into about 2017

Times have changed drastically since 1994. They don't have to be all in the studio at the same time.

[Don]

A snippet of another uptempo song.

Ready
http://www.foreigneronline.com/?em3=605 ... ntent=blog

[Red13JoePa]

I just read an interview where the reporter brought up Gramm being upset about the writing credits on I want to know what love is. To Mick's credit he didn't get drawn in, just kept everything very cordial with his remarks about Lou.

Never heard him bash Lou...and Lou goes at Mick w/ both barrells all the time.

[Ehwmatt]

I just read an interview where the reporter brought up Gramm being upset about the writing credits on I want to know what love is. To Mick's credit he didn't get drawn in, just kept everything very cordial with his remarks about Lou.

Never heard him bash Lou...and Lou goes at Mick w/ both barrells all the time.

In fairness to Lou though, it's like someone dominant in sports being a classy, great sport... when they're winning. They're dominant, so you never see them on the losing end and don't get to see how they handle it too often. Lou is on the "losing end," out of the band he helped make famous and what not. I don't blame him for being more vitriolic than Mick.

[Red13JoePa]

Lou is out by choice, though according to both he AND Mick.

[Ehwmatt]

Lou is out by choice, though according to both he AND Mick.

To use another analogy, if your employer makes it suck so bad that you have no choice but to quit, you didn't really make a choice did you? I don't know Foreigner history too well though... I'm sure you know much better than I do.

[Abitaman]

Lou is out by choice, though according to both he AND Mick.

To use another analogy, if your employer makes it suck so bad that you have no choice but to quit, you didn't really make a choice did you? I don't know Foreigner history too well though... I'm sure you know much better than I do.

From what I had seen, Lou wasn't able to write for a long time, then when it started flowing, Mick wasn't intrested and blew him off on his ideas.

[Andrew]

Mick Jones and Kelly Hansen were on Fox Sports Radio here in LA and they talked about the new CD and it's dedicated to NASCAR. They both talked about the legacy of Lou Gramm and likened it to SP in Journey. They took shit for the rerecords though.

They are NOT rerecords. They are remixes of the original Lou Gramm tracks with Lou still on vocals. Kelly didn't want to do rerecords so the BAND respected his wish!

[StoneCold]

"Ready" sounds like a filler. Not awful but nothing special. Tempo reminds of NWA. I relistened to "In Pieces" and it sounds better this time.

[Red13JoePa]

Mick Jones and Kelly Hansen were on Fox Sports Radio here in LA and they talked about the new CD and it's dedicated to NASCAR. They both talked about the legacy of Lou Gramm and likened it to SP in Journey. They took shit for the rerecords though.

They are NOT rerecords. They are remixes of the original Lou Gramm tracks with Lou still on vocals. Kelly didn't want to do rerecords so the BAND respected his wish!

And WalMart must've agreed...wonder how drastic the difference is on the remixes by Fredriksen. So Lou Gramm will appear on this album huh?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Advance listening preview.
A couple of new tracks and some of the-remixes are online now.

http://skopemag.com/2009/09/16/foreigne ... ning-party

[Red13JoePa]

Mick's Les Paul sounds in fine form

[Blueskies]

Advance listening preview.
A couple of new tracks and some of the-remixes are online now.

http://skopemag.com/2009/09/16/foreigne ... ning-party

Wow! Thanks for the link! Can't wait! Wallyworld the 29th, I'm there ! LOVING this!!

[portland]

Mick Jones and Kelly Hansen were on Fox Sports Radio here in LA and they talked about the new CD and it's dedicated to NASCAR. They both talked about the legacy of Lou Gramm and likened it to SP in Journey. They took shit for the rerecords though.

They are NOT rerecords. They are remixes of the original Lou Gramm tracks with Lou still on vocals. Kelly didn't want to do rerecords so the BAND respected his wish!

If only all BANDS would have the wisdom that was used here!!!

[Red13JoePa]

Yep Journey was "wisdom"less to the tune of double platinum

[Blueskies]

Mick Jones and Kelly Hansen were on Fox Sports Radio here in LA and they talked about the new CD and it's dedicated to NASCAR. They both talked about the legacy of Lou Gramm and likened it to SP in Journey. They took shit for the rerecords though.

They are NOT rerecords. They are remixes of the original Lou Gramm tracks with Lou still on vocals. Kelly didn't want to do rerecords so the BAND respected his wish!

Listening with headphones. Kelly made the right decision. I'm glad they went with remixes of the hits....well done too! They sound great!

[portland]

Yep Journey was "wisdom"less to the tune of double platinum

Do you ever get tired of that line????? It really is a numbers game for you isn't it?? Not about the legacy....you and Neal would get along really well!

[Red13JoePa]

Sure it's a #s game, damn RIGHT it is b/c since they 86'd perry we've heard about the horrible sales well this one didn;t have a note sung by him and it's sold a mint so yea, loons will hear about it since the shoe's on the other foot.
I surely would get along w/ Neal.

[Don]

Portland, Perry gets paid for every Revelation package Wal-Mart sells, so it's like he's still part of the band. It's all good.
He didn't sing a note on the new album but he wrote quite a few lyrics. Neal knows it's all about Schon/Perry/Cain. You can plug in the replacement parts but the aforementioned are the power trio when it comes to Journey's legacy.

[Red13JoePa]

GB, I have some good rotator cuff exercises, you're gonna need them soon what with continuing the overreaching of crediting perry for Rev's success.

[Don]

GB, I have some good rotator cuff exercises, you're gonna need them soon what with continuing the overreaching of crediting perry for Rev's success.

Save them for McNabb. He's need them, after that cheap shot by Damione Lewis.

[journeyrock]

Mick Jones and Kelly Hansen were on Fox Sports Radio here in LA and they talked about the new CD and it's dedicated to NASCAR. They both talked about the legacy of Lou Gramm and likened it to SP in Journey. They took shit for the rerecords though.

They are NOT rerecords. They are remixes of the original Lou Gramm tracks with Lou still on vocals. Kelly didn't want to do rerecords so the BAND respected his wish!

Kelley Hanson = class!!!

[Red13JoePa]

GB, I have some good rotator cuff exercises, you're gonna need them soon what with continuing the overreaching of crediting perry for Rev's success.

Save them for McNabb. He's need them, after that cheap shot by Damione Lewis.

Clean hit...he was in the air while (26)5(lbs) was on the way to crossing the plane.
I STILL question if the hit was hard enough to actually crack through the blubber on the Mcribs and actually break it....think he may have been looking for a reason to duck the pressure Vick's presence will put on him...

[Ehwmatt]

GB, I have some good rotator cuff exercises, you're gonna need them soon what with continuing the overreaching of crediting perry for Rev's success.

Save them for McNabb. He's need them, after that cheap shot by Damione Lewis.

Clean hit...he was in the air while (26)5(lbs) was on the way to crossing the plane.
I STILL question if the hit was hard enough to actually crack through the blubber on the Mcribs and actually break it....think he may have been looking for a reason to duck the pressure Vick's presence will put on him...

You fuckers in Philly sure are unappreciative of what Donovan's done for your team. Try the likes of Tim Couch, Kelly Holcomb, Trent Dilfer, Charlie Frye, and Derek Anderson on for size. Brady Quinn will probably be added to that list in the next 4 or so weeks.

[Don]

GB, I have some good rotator cuff exercises, you're gonna need them soon what with continuing the overreaching of crediting perry for Rev's success.

Save them for McNabb. He's need them, after that cheap shot by Damione Lewis.

Clean hit...he was in the air while (26)5(lbs) was on the way to crossing the plane.
I STILL question if the hit was hard enough to actually crack through the blubber on the Mcribs and actually break it....think he may have been looking for a reason to duck the pressure Vick's presence will put on him...

That was my first thought. I do have to say the hit looked pretty hard but I thought it was a liver shot, I didn't actually think it would break a rib, especially with those flackjackets they wear now.

[Red13JoePa]

GB, I have some good rotator cuff exercises, you're gonna need them soon what with continuing the overreaching of crediting perry for Rev's success.

Save them for McNabb. He's need them, after that cheap shot by Damione Lewis.

Clean hit...he was in the air while (26)5(lbs) was on the way to crossing the plane.
I STILL question if the hit was hard enough to actually crack through the blubber on the Mcribs and actually break it....think he may have been looking for a reason to duck the pressure Vick's presence will put on him...

That was my first thought. I do have to say the hit looked pretty hard but I thought it was a liver shot, I didn't actually think it would break a rib.

Pffff...ESPECIALLY not with the built-in cheese fry flack jacket his fat rearend is wearing...dude wants NO part of getting yanked for Vick so...just drum up an injury.

[Don]

Dude has never taken a hit like Jaws did in a game against Chicago back in the early eighties. I thought right then, Ron's career was over. On a regular basis, he got pounded 10 times worse then what McNabb goes through.