Schonesque

[Duncan]

Whilst working away this track came on my Itunes and i thought nothing like a bit of Neal Schon, but on looking at the screen I found it was Trevor Rabin. I'm no expert on these things but the first 1min 20sec sounds very Schon like to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSAOCAnBaNE



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[strangegrey]

I supose one could come away with that impression.

To me, it's classic Trevor Rabin, 100%....who, incidentally, is 100x the shitty guitarist he replaced in Yes.

[Ehwmatt]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

[ProgRocker53]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

Throw in Lukather and you have yourself a holy quadrimony of sensational melodic players.

[Starrider]

I supose one could come away with that impression.

To me, it's classic Trevor Rabin, 100%....who, incidentally, is 100x the shitty guitarist he replaced in Yes.

Well-played.

I remember someone here describing Steve Howe as a "fumble-fingered f*ck." Was that you?

[Ehwmatt]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

Throw in Lukather and you have yourself a holy quadrimony of sensational melodic players.

Love Luke too no doubt. Got his guitar too

[ProgRocker53]

I supose one could come away with that impression.

To me, it's classic Trevor Rabin, 100%....who, incidentally, is 100x the shitty guitarist he replaced in Yes.

Well-played.

I remember someone here describing Steve Howe as a "fumble-fingered f*ck." Was that you?

It was either Frank or Dean.

Either way, I enjoy Howe's playing but I do admit that he's slightly overrated in prog circles. There are times when he's sensational, yes, but other times he does sound sloppier than hell. It's actually part of the appeal to some Yes songs to me, though, but that critique isn't exactly baseless.

[ProgRocker53]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

Throw in Lukather and you have yourself a holy quadrimony of sensational melodic players.

Love Luke too no doubt. Got his guitar too

Asshole.

[Ehwmatt]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

Throw in Lukather and you have yourself a holy quadrimony of sensational melodic players.

Love Luke too no doubt. Got his guitar too

Asshole.

Some dick is trying to sell one ticket to the PT show on StubHub for 82! Fuckin standing room.

Then some dick on eBay was tryin to sell 2 GAs for like 172. I'm fuckin bummed man. I'm keepin an eye out on the show todya and tomorrow in case tix get released.

[StoneCold]

Sounds like his playing on "Late Nite".

[Starrider]

I supose one could come away with that impression.

To me, it's classic Trevor Rabin, 100%....who, incidentally, is 100x the shitty guitarist he replaced in Yes.

Well-played.

I remember someone here describing Steve Howe as a "fumble-fingered f*ck." Was that you?

It was either Frank or Dean.

Either way, I enjoy Howe's playing but I do admit that he's slightly overrated in prog circles. There are times when he's sensational, yes, but other times he does sound sloppier than hell. It's actually part of the appeal to some Yes songs to me, though, but that critique isn't exactly baseless.

Found it. It was Frank. He called Howe a "fumble-fingered idiot," so I stand corrected on the precise wording:
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=4174642#4174642

[Ehwmatt]

I supose one could come away with that impression.

To me, it's classic Trevor Rabin, 100%....who, incidentally, is 100x the shitty guitarist he replaced in Yes.

Well-played.

I remember someone here describing Steve Howe as a "fumble-fingered f*ck." Was that you?

It was either Frank or Dean.

Either way, I enjoy Howe's playing but I do admit that he's slightly overrated in prog circles. There are times when he's sensational, yes, but other times he does sound sloppier than hell. It's actually part of the appeal to some Yes songs to me, though, but that critique isn't exactly baseless.

Found it. It was Frank. He called Howe a "fumble-fingered idiot," so I stand corrected on the precise wording:
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=4174642#4174642

I remember that thread. I can see how people wouldn't like Steve Howe, but I still think a lot of his "sloppiness" comes from the eccentric kinda tone and phrasing he's got going on. Not everybody's bag, that's for sure, but I enjoy his playing.

Edit: Wow, I guess Frank and I didn't get along too well in that thread. Pretty crazy, we've agreed on most things since !

[ProgRocker53]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

Throw in Lukather and you have yourself a holy quadrimony of sensational melodic players.

Love Luke too no doubt. Got his guitar too

Asshole.

Some dick is trying to sell one ticket to the PT show on StubHub for 82! Fuckin standing room.

Then some dick on eBay was tryin to sell 2 GAs for like 172. I'm fuckin bummed man. I'm keepin an eye out on the show todya and tomorrow in case tix get released.

Thanks dude, I'll be tuned in.

[strangegrey]

I remember that thread. I can see how people wouldn't like Steve Howe, but I still think a lot of his "sloppiness" comes from the eccentric kinda tone and phrasing he's got going on. Not everybody's bag, that's for sure, but I enjoy his playing.

Edit: Wow, I guess Frank and I didn't get along too well in that thread. Pretty crazy, we've agreed on most things since !

LOL.....Don't take it personally. I can be an asshole of the highest calliber. I was probably more a dick than I would care to admit without -rereading the thread (and I'm not in the mood to feel cringed, so I wont bother).

I still never got the attraction to howe. There were never moments of brilliance. For a prog band, I expect better. better precision, better execution, beter writing.....Howe had/has none of the three. He's only gotten worse in recent years....

I have referred to him as a "fumble-fingered <insert expletive here>"....but you will see that I apply the same endearing term for Jimmy Page, 94% of the grunge guitarists out there and Ace Frehley. and only the case with Jimmy and Ace, do I consider that they bring other things to the table which make up for their lack of technical precision.


But getting back to Howe...I just find him fucking awful. I was further turned off by howe after reading the way he treated Rabin on the Union tour. He was downright hostile to the guy.....despite the fact that Rabin was, from what I gathered, tremendously accomodating for Howe, giving him enough room to do what he did. I chalk it down to the fact that howe felt threatened by Rabin and just turned into a vaginal bitch around him. Anyone who's been in a 2-guitarist band knows exactly what I'm talking about.

In fact, the collosal prick that Howe can be is one of the many reasons why Wakeman isn't in the band anymore....so far as I can tell. Wakeman hates Howe.....I suspect that if Rabin stayed in Yes and Howe went off somewhere to grow uglier and kick his dog.....the Yes lineup these days would be Anderson, Squire, White, Wakeman and Rabin.....

Granted, Rabin is currently doing things far more musically complex than anything Yes can or will do....and he's probably making more money doing it...so it's all good.


Still, Howe's a vaginal prick of the highest order and he sucks at his instrument too....

[Ehwmatt]

Haha, classic stuff Frank. I'm pretty sure I was drinking for some of those posts I made too!

[Starrider]

I remember that thread. I can see how people wouldn't like Steve Howe, but I still think a lot of his "sloppiness" comes from the eccentric kinda tone and phrasing he's got going on. Not everybody's bag, that's for sure, but I enjoy his playing.

Edit: Wow, I guess Frank and I didn't get along too well in that thread. Pretty crazy, we've agreed on most things since !

LOL.....Don't take it personally. I can be an asshole of the highest calliber. I was probably more a dick than I would care to admit without -rereading the thread (and I'm not in the mood to feel cringed, so I wont bother).

I still never got the attraction to howe. There were never moments of brilliance. For a prog band, I expect better. better precision, better execution, beter writing.....Howe had/has none of the three. He's only gotten worse in recent years....

I have referred to him as a "fumble-fingered <insert expletive here>"....but you will see that I apply the same endearing term for Jimmy Page, 94% of the grunge guitarists out there and Ace Frehley. and only the case with Jimmy and Ace, do I consider that they bring other things to the table which make up for their lack of technical precision.


But getting back to Howe...I just find him fucking awful. I was further turned off by howe after reading the way he treated Rabin on the Union tour. He was downright hostile to the guy.....despite the fact that Rabin was, from what I gathered, tremendously accomodating for Howe, giving him enough room to do what he did. I chalk it down to the fact that howe felt threatened by Rabin and just turned into a vaginal bitch around him. Anyone who's been in a 2-guitarist band knows exactly what I'm talking about.

In fact, the collosal prick that Howe can be is one of the many reasons why Wakeman isn't in the band anymore....so far as I can tell. Wakeman hates Howe.....I suspect that if Rabin stayed in Yes and Howe went off somewhere to grow uglier and kick his dog.....the Yes lineup these days would be Anderson, Squire, White, Wakeman and Rabin.....

Granted, Rabin is currently doing things far more musically complex than anything Yes can or will do....and he's probably making more money doing it...so it's all good.


Still, Howe's a vaginal prick of the highest order and he sucks at his instrument too....

Classic post. I feel the same way about Ace, and I have been listening to his stuff (KISS, solo, Frehley's Comet, etc.) for quite a long time. I would have liked to have seen the direction Yes would have taken had Rabin stayed in the band. He definitely brought more to the table than Howe, both as a writer and as a guitarist. He also doesn't look like he went to high school with Yoda, as Howe does.

[Duncan]

Sounds like his playing on "Late Nite".

That's exactly what I thought.

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[Duncan]

Granted, Rabin is currently doing things far more musically complex than anything Yes can or will do....and he's probably making more money doing it...so it's all good.

Has he had any solo material out recently?


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[Rockindeano]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

Throw in Lukather and you have yourself a holy quadrimony of sensational melodic players.

Ok, I'll give you Lukather, but I would throw Keith Scott in the mix as well.

[Duncan]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

Throw in Lukather and you have yourself a holy quadrimony of sensational melodic players.

Ok, I'll give you Lukather, but I would throw Keith Scott in the mix as well.

I would love to hear a solo album from Keith Scott.

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[Ehwmatt]

Rabin rocks. I can see how you thought that.

I'd actually compare it more to Steve Rothery of Marillion if anything. One thing's for sure, Neal, Steve, and Trevor all rock and play the style of guitar I love the most.

Throw in Lukather and you have yourself a holy quadrimony of sensational melodic players.

Ok, I'll give you Lukather, but I would throw Keith Scott in the mix as well.

I really like his playing with BA, but does he do much outside of BA? I just don't know that much about him.

[strangegrey]

Ok, I'll give you Lukather, but I would throw Keith Scott in the mix as well.

Kieth Scott is a great player, but I don't hear his playing in Rabin's song posted above. Perhaps tonewise. I know Kieth Scott was a big user of Ken Fischer's Trainwreck Express amps....and the Rabin tone above has a mid-rangey tone similar to a trainwreck (although I know rabin used a jcm800 into a Marshall 1936 cab on that album and 90125).....but I don't hear any similarities in the phrasings...

Although....I definitely hear alot of Luke in his playing....but I still think Rabin is his own beast. He really has a distinctive tone to me.

[Don]

Granted, Rabin is currently doing things far more musically complex than anything Yes can or will do....and he's probably making more money doing it...so it's all good.

Has he had any solo material out recently?


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Rabin's last solo album was in 2003.

Trevor has really made Hollywood his Career over the last decade.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0704909/