Greensboro 9-18-09

[JasonA1]

I like Arnel, and "Escape" is one of my top 5 favorite Journey songs, but I don't like Arnel's take on it.

-Jason

[stevew2]

That's a good set list. The only thing I would do if I led this band would be drop OA and insert say, Just the Same Way or maybe FITH or even TPIYH. Oh it's a about 4-5 songs too short too. A band that is a Grade A band doesn't meddle along with 19 songs. Have to play at least 23-24 tunes.

I completely agree but Damn when they played Open Arms the croud went freakin crazy!!! I just hate hearing that song!! The set is too short and when you leave there you feel like "Damn that went by fast" lol

It just went fast because zippy was there singing the tunes.

Another thing that bothers me is I used to be a big Cain fan back in high school but he Truely does look bored out of his mind and there is almost no interraction at all between him and Pineda. Is there friction between those too? Neal looks like he's having the time of his life and so do Arnel, dean and Ross but Jonathon looks like he just wants to go home. What gives?

Maybe he spotted Stevew2 and THE SHIRT in the audience.

That he did {in Va

[kgdjpubs]

That's a good set list. The only thing I would do if I led this band would be drop OA and insert say, Just the Same Way or maybe FITH or even TPIYH. Oh it's a about 4-5 songs too short too. A band that is a Grade A band doesn't meddle along with 19 songs. Have to play at least 23-24 tunes.

I completely agree but Damn when they played Open Arms the croud went freakin crazy!!! I just hate hearing that song!! The set is too short and when you leave there you feel like "Damn that went by fast" lol

yep, the crowd loved OA and Don't Stop Believin. Higher Place was somewhat indifferent (though I think they liked it towards the end, but were just unfamiliar with it). Still They Ride actually went over quite well, and Wildest Dreams wasn't enjoyed by many at all. They are stretching what a nostalgia audience will deal with as it is.

I'd love a longer setlist, but with Night Ranger having generally 1hr to play, and a 7:30 start time, Journey gets roughly 2hrs (or a little less) to play. It's what you deal with. For what it's worth, the audience reaction to NR was indifferent at best--and I thought they put on a good show. Of course, Jack Blades didn't help things by calling the place "Greensboro, North DAKOTA". Another reason why it's best to just say the city and let it be when you are talking to an audience.

[steveo777]

That's a good set list. The only thing I would do if I led this band would be drop OA and insert say, Just the Same Way or maybe FITH or even TPIYH. Oh it's a about 4-5 songs too short too. A band that is a Grade A band doesn't meddle along with 19 songs. Have to play at least 23-24 tunes.

I completely agree but Damn when they played Open Arms the croud went freakin crazy!!! I just hate hearing that song!! The set is too short and when you leave there you feel like "Damn that went by fast" lol

yep, the crowd loved OA and Don't Stop Believin. Higher Place was somewhat indifferent (though I think they liked it towards the end, but were just unfamiliar with it). Still They Ride actually went over quite well, and Wildest Dreams wasn't enjoyed by many at all. They are stretching what a nostalgia audience will deal with as it is.

I'd love a longer setlist, but with Night Ranger having generally 1hr to play, and a 7:30 start time, Journey gets roughly 2hrs (or a little less) to play. It's what you deal with. For what it's worth, the audience reaction to NR was indifferent at best--and I thought they put on a good show. Of course, Jack Blades didn't help things by calling the place "Greensboro, North DAKOTA". Another reason why it's best to just say the city and let it be when you are talking to an audience.

I've been trying to get my head around what these audiances are coming to hear and why they don't respond to anything much outside the dirty dozen. I think after ROR there was a huge hole and Journey was just not out in front of people and their next album didn't come for a decade. By then I think they had lost many of the fans. Then the band restarts with Steve Augeri and that change did not probably go over well, initially, at least for the few fans that were left. Shortly after people were finally comfortable with SA as lead singer, he too is gone. Journey enists JSS to fill the hole left by SA, then poof, another lead singer gone. Enter Arnel, great vocalist, but his stamp that got him hired was his Perry-esque voice. So now the sound of Journey is back but the folks who have not been paying much attention are only familiar with the ROR and prior songs, for the most part. It must make getting the new Journey with new material on the map a hell of a hill to climb.

And, yeah, I know....posting this stuff is like singing to the choir.

[kgdjpubs]

I've been trying to get my head around what these audiances are coming to hear and why they don't respond to anything much outside the dirty dozen. I think after ROR there was a huge hole and Journey was just not out in front of people and their next album didn't come for a decade. By then I think they had lost many of the fans. Then the band restarts with Steve Augeri and that change did not probably go over well, initially, at least for the few fans that were left. Shortly after people were finally comfortable with SA as lead singer, he too is gone. Journey enists JSS to fill the hole left by SA, then poof, another lead singer gone. Enter Arnel, great vocalist, but his stamp that got him hired was his Perry-esque voice. So now the sound of Journey is back but the folks who have not been paying much attention are only familiar with the ROR and prior songs, for the most part. It must make getting the new Journey with new material on the map a hell of a hill to climb.

And, yeah, I know....posting this stuff is like singing to the choir.

I doubt the Augeri/JSS/Arnel thing has much--if anything--to do with it. Disappearing for 10 years after ROR, resurfacing for 1 song on TBF, then going back into the woodwork is what hurt them. They went from being relevant to nostalgia. Likely, with the musical climate change in the early 90s, it would have happened anyway, even with Perry. If you don't hear new Journey on the radio, most people don't hear anything about the band. They don't pay attention to the band's website, could care less who is singing (most probably don't even know), and don't care and don't know about new material. Your average concertgoer liked the hits in the early 80s, and figured it would be a good night out. That's it. That's all it is.

The diehards comprise maybe 5% of your typical concert attendance, and the rest have the Greatest Hits and probably nothing else--if they have that. Don't think it's a Journey problem. Even someone like Bon Jovi experiences it. That's why most artists don't deviate too far from the GH set when playing live. It's just the way it is.

[Michigan Girl]

I've been trying to get my head around what these audiances are coming to hear and why they don't respond to anything much outside the dirty dozen. I think after ROR there was a huge hole and Journey was just not out in front of people and their next album didn't come for a decade. By then I think they had lost many of the fans. Then the band restarts with Steve Augeri and that change did not probably go over well, initially, at least for the few fans that were left. Shortly after people were finally comfortable with SA as lead singer, he too is gone. Journey enists JSS to fill the hole left by SA, then poof, another lead singer gone. Enter Arnel, great vocalist, but his stamp that got him hired was his Perry-esque voice. So now the sound of Journey is back but the folks who have not been paying much attention are only familiar with the ROR and prior songs, for the most part. It must make getting the new Journey with new material on the map a hell of a hill to climb.

And, yeah, I know....posting this stuff is like singing to the choir.

I doubt the Augeri/JSS/Arnel thing has much--if anything--to do with it. Disappearing for 10 years after ROR, resurfacing for 1 song on TBF, then going back into the woodwork is what hurt them. They went from being relevant to nostalgia. Likely, with the musical climate change in the early 90s, it would have happened anyway, even with Perry. If you don't hear new Journey on the radio, most people don't hear anything about the band. They don't pay attention to the band's website, could care less who is singing (most probably don't even know), and don't care and don't know about new material. Your average concertgoer liked the hits in the early 80s, and figured it would be a good night out. That's it. That's all it is.

The diehards comprise maybe 5% of your typical concert attendance, and the rest have the Greatest Hits and probably nothing else--if they have that. Don't think it's a Journey problem. Even someone like Bon Jovi experiences it. That's why most artists don't deviate too far from the GH set when playing live. It's just the way it is.

This made perfect sense...until the BJ comparison. Don't they normally tour to promote new material?!?!?
It has been my experience that BJ plays the new material at their shows with the hits sprinkled throughout.
The fans might not always like their musical direction, but they still show up in droves and seem to be familiar
with the new music as well as the old.

[steveo777]

I've been trying to get my head around what these audiances are coming to hear and why they don't respond to anything much outside the dirty dozen. I think after ROR there was a huge hole and Journey was just not out in front of people and their next album didn't come for a decade. By then I think they had lost many of the fans. Then the band restarts with Steve Augeri and that change did not probably go over well, initially, at least for the few fans that were left. Shortly after people were finally comfortable with SA as lead singer, he too is gone. Journey enists JSS to fill the hole left by SA, then poof, another lead singer gone. Enter Arnel, great vocalist, but his stamp that got him hired was his Perry-esque voice. So now the sound of Journey is back but the folks who have not been paying much attention are only familiar with the ROR and prior songs, for the most part. It must make getting the new Journey with new material on the map a hell of a hill to climb.

And, yeah, I know....posting this stuff is like singing to the choir.

I doubt the Augeri/JSS/Arnel thing has much--if anything--to do with it. Disappearing for 10 years after ROR, resurfacing for 1 song on TBF, then going back into the woodwork is what hurt them. They went from being relevant to nostalgia. Likely, with the musical climate change in the early 90s, it would have happened anyway, even with Perry. If you don't hear new Journey on the radio, most people don't hear anything about the band. They don't pay attention to the band's website, could care less who is singing (most probably don't even know), and don't care and don't know about new material. Your average concertgoer liked the hits in the early 80s, and figured it would be a good night out. That's it. That's all it is.

The diehards comprise maybe 5% of your typical concert attendance, and the rest have the Greatest Hits and probably nothing else--if they have that. Don't think it's a Journey problem. Even someone like Bon Jovi experiences it. That's why most artists don't deviate too far from the GH set when playing live. It's just the way it is.

This made perfect sense...until the BJ comparison. Don't they normally tour to promote new material?!?!?
It has been my experience that BJ plays the new material at their shows with the hits sprinkled throughout.
The fans might not always like their musical direction, but they still show up in droves and seem to be familiar
with the new music as well as the old.

Maybe Journey fans are like my dog.....finicky. Everytime I try a different kind of food she puts her nose up in the air and walks out. What a bitch!

[Michigan Girl]

I've been trying to get my head around what these audiances are coming to hear and why they don't respond to anything much outside the dirty dozen. I think after ROR there was a huge hole and Journey was just not out in front of people and their next album didn't come for a decade. By then I think they had lost many of the fans. Then the band restarts with Steve Augeri and that change did not probably go over well, initially, at least for the few fans that were left. Shortly after people were finally comfortable with SA as lead singer, he too is gone. Journey enists JSS to fill the hole left by SA, then poof, another lead singer gone. Enter Arnel, great vocalist, but his stamp that got him hired was his Perry-esque voice. So now the sound of Journey is back but the folks who have not been paying much attention are only familiar with the ROR and prior songs, for the most part. It must make getting the new Journey with new material on the map a hell of a hill to climb.

And, yeah, I know....posting this stuff is like singing to the choir.

I doubt the Augeri/JSS/Arnel thing has much--if anything--to do with it. Disappearing for 10 years after ROR, resurfacing for 1 song on TBF, then going back into the woodwork is what hurt them. They went from being relevant to nostalgia. Likely, with the musical climate change in the early 90s, it would have happened anyway, even with Perry. If you don't hear new Journey on the radio, most people don't hear anything about the band. They don't pay attention to the band's website, could care less who is singing (most probably don't even know), and don't care and don't know about new material. Your average concertgoer liked the hits in the early 80s, and figured it would be a good night out. That's it. That's all it is.

The diehards comprise maybe 5% of your typical concert attendance, and the rest have the Greatest Hits and probably nothing else--if they have that. Don't think it's a Journey problem. Even someone like Bon Jovi experiences it. That's why most artists don't deviate too far from the GH set when playing live. It's just the way it is.

This made perfect sense...until the BJ comparison. Don't they normally tour to promote new material?!?!?
It has been my experience that BJ plays the new material at their shows with the hits sprinkled throughout.
The fans might not always like their musical direction, but they still show up in droves and seem to be familiar
with the new music as well as the old.

Maybe Journey fans are like my dog.....finicky. Everytime I try a different kind of food she puts her nose up in the air and walks out. What a bitch!

Well, this makes the most sense thus far!!

[kgdjpubs]

I doubt the Augeri/JSS/Arnel thing has much--if anything--to do with it. Disappearing for 10 years after ROR, resurfacing for 1 song on TBF, then going back into the woodwork is what hurt them. They went from being relevant to nostalgia. Likely, with the musical climate change in the early 90s, it would have happened anyway, even with Perry. If you don't hear new Journey on the radio, most people don't hear anything about the band. They don't pay attention to the band's website, could care less who is singing (most probably don't even know), and don't care and don't know about new material. Your average concertgoer liked the hits in the early 80s, and figured it would be a good night out. That's it. That's all it is.

The diehards comprise maybe 5% of your typical concert attendance, and the rest have the Greatest Hits and probably nothing else--if they have that. Don't think it's a Journey problem. Even someone like Bon Jovi experiences it. That's why most artists don't deviate too far from the GH set when playing live. It's just the way it is.

This made perfect sense...until the BJ comparison. Don't they normally tour to promote new material?!?!?
It has been my experience that BJ plays the new material at their shows with the hits sprinkled throughout.
The fans might not always like their musical direction, but they still show up in droves and seem to be familiar
with the new music as well as the old.

I don't think I clarified the BJ comparison the way I wanted to, so let me try again...

Maybe Bon Jovi's setlist has changed a bit as I missed the last tour (Lost Highway), but their setlist in general every time I have seen them is pretty straight-forward by the numbers, and not a lot of surprises. You'll get 3-4 new songs, but anyone hoping for a deep cut setlist is going to be VERY disappointed. They have their fair share of hits, and you'll hear 95% of them on any given night. They have the "dirty dozen" also.

The key difference here though is radio airplay. With it, you get fans that are at least vaguely familiar with new material, or at least the idea that it exists. Without it, you are where Journey is--most don't know you have an album out, and couldn't care less.

[perryswoman]

I've been trying to get my head around what these audiances are coming to hear and why they don't respond to anything much outside the dirty dozen. I think after ROR there was a huge hole and Journey was just not out in front of people and their next album didn't come for a decade. By then I think they had lost many of the fans. Then the band restarts with Steve Augeri and that change did not probably go over well, initially, at least for the few fans that were left. Shortly after people were finally comfortable with SA as lead singer, he too is gone. Journey enists JSS to fill the hole left by SA, then poof, another lead singer gone. Enter Arnel, great vocalist, but his stamp that got him hired was his Perry-esque voice. So now the sound of Journey is back but the folks who have not been paying much attention are only familiar with the ROR and prior songs, for the most part. It must make getting the new Journey with new material on the map a hell of a hill to climb.

And, yeah, I know....posting this stuff is like singing to the choir.

I doubt the Augeri/JSS/Arnel thing has much--if anything--to do with it. Disappearing for 10 years after ROR, resurfacing for 1 song on TBF, then going back into the woodwork is what hurt them. They went from being relevant to nostalgia. Likely, with the musical climate change in the early 90s, it would have happened anyway, even with Perry. If you don't hear new Journey on the radio, most people don't hear anything about the band. They don't pay attention to the band's website, could care less who is singing (most probably don't even know), and don't care and don't know about new material. Your average concertgoer liked the hits in the early 80s, and figured it would be a good night out. That's it. That's all it is.

The diehards comprise maybe 5% of your typical concert attendance, and the rest have the Greatest Hits and probably nothing else--if they have that. Don't think it's a Journey problem. Even someone like Bon Jovi experiences it. That's why most artists don't deviate too far from the GH set when playing live. It's just the way it is.

This made perfect sense...until the BJ comparison. Don't they normally tour to promote new material?!?!?
It has been my experience that BJ plays the new material at their shows with the hits sprinkled throughout.
The fans might not always like their musical direction, but they still show up in droves and seem to be familiar
with the new music as well as the old.

Maybe Journey fans are like my dog.....finicky. Everytime I try a different kind of food she puts her nose up in the air and walks out. What a bitch!

Well, this makes the most sense thus far!!

Yep it does and it's the same thing I was saying. Most of the fans loved journey in the 80's but have grown up and have lives and just go to a concert to relive their earlier years. Nostalgia is all most of it is. You would be really surprised at the number of people that think Steve Perry is still the lead singer!!!

[stevew2]

I've been trying to get my head around what these audiances are coming to hear and why they don't respond to anything much outside the dirty dozen. I think after ROR there was a huge hole and Journey was just not out in front of people and their next album didn't come for a decade. By then I think they had lost many of the fans. Then the band restarts with Steve Augeri and that change did not probably go over well, initially, at least for the few fans that were left. Shortly after people were finally comfortable with SA as lead singer, he too is gone. Journey enists JSS to fill the hole left by SA, then poof, another lead singer gone. Enter Arnel, great vocalist, but his stamp that got him hired was his Perry-esque voice. So now the sound of Journey is back but the folks who have not been paying much attention are only familiar with the ROR and prior songs, for the most part. It must make getting the new Journey with new material on the map a hell of a hill to climb.

And, yeah, I know....posting this stuff is like singing to the choir.

I doubt the Augeri/JSS/Arnel thing has much--if anything--to do with it. Disappearing for 10 years after ROR, resurfacing for 1 song on TBF, then going back into the woodwork is what hurt them. They went from being relevant to nostalgia. Likely, with the musical climate change in the early 90s, it would have happened anyway, even with Perry. If you don't hear new Journey on the radio, most people don't hear anything about the band. They don't pay attention to the band's website, could care less who is singing (most probably don't even know), and don't care and don't know about new material. Your average concertgoer liked the hits in the early 80s, and figured it would be a good night out. That's it. That's all it is.

The diehards comprise maybe 5% of your typical concert attendance, and the rest have the Greatest Hits and probably nothing else--if they have that. Don't think it's a Journey problem. Even someone like Bon Jovi experiences it. That's why most artists don't deviate too far from the GH set when playing live. It's just the way it is.

This made perfect sense...until the BJ comparison. Don't they normally tour to promote new material?!?!?
It has been my experience that BJ plays the new material at their shows with the hits sprinkled throughout.
The fans might not always like their musical direction, but they still show up in droves and seem to be familiar
with the new music as well as the old.

Maybe Journey fans are like my dog.....finicky. Everytime I try a different kind of food she puts her nose up in the air and walks out. What a bitch!

I agree thats why i dont feed my carl anything new, although he would eat it ahyway then shit all over the place

[steveo777]

I've been trying to get my head around what these audiances are coming to hear and why they don't respond to anything much outside the dirty dozen. I think after ROR there was a huge hole and Journey was just not out in front of people and their next album didn't come for a decade. By then I think they had lost many of the fans. Then the band restarts with Steve Augeri and that change did not probably go over well, initially, at least for the few fans that were left. Shortly after people were finally comfortable with SA as lead singer, he too is gone. Journey enists JSS to fill the hole left by SA, then poof, another lead singer gone. Enter Arnel, great vocalist, but his stamp that got him hired was his Perry-esque voice. So now the sound of Journey is back but the folks who have not been paying much attention are only familiar with the ROR and prior songs, for the most part. It must make getting the new Journey with new material on the map a hell of a hill to climb.

And, yeah, I know....posting this stuff is like singing to the choir.

I doubt the Augeri/JSS/Arnel thing has much--if anything--to do with it. Disappearing for 10 years after ROR, resurfacing for 1 song on TBF, then going back into the woodwork is what hurt them. They went from being relevant to nostalgia. Likely, with the musical climate change in the early 90s, it would have happened anyway, even with Perry. If you don't hear new Journey on the radio, most people don't hear anything about the band. They don't pay attention to the band's website, could care less who is singing (most probably don't even know), and don't care and don't know about new material. Your average concertgoer liked the hits in the early 80s, and figured it would be a good night out. That's it. That's all it is.

The diehards comprise maybe 5% of your typical concert attendance, and the rest have the Greatest Hits and probably nothing else--if they have that. Don't think it's a Journey problem. Even someone like Bon Jovi experiences it. That's why most artists don't deviate too far from the GH set when playing live. It's just the way it is.

This made perfect sense...until the BJ comparison. Don't they normally tour to promote new material?!?!?
It has been my experience that BJ plays the new material at their shows with the hits sprinkled throughout.
The fans might not always like their musical direction, but they still show up in droves and seem to be familiar
with the new music as well as the old.

Maybe Journey fans are like my dog.....finicky. Everytime I try a different kind of food she puts her nose up in the air and walks out. What a bitch!

I agree thats why i dont feed my carl anything new, although he would eat it ahyway then shit all over the place

Steve if you've got a dog, you must be an ok human.

[Greg]

I was at the Greensboro, NC concert Friday night. I thought Arnel's best song was Send Her My Love. The rest was just, eh. I thought he butchered Higher Place. It just didn't sound right to me. As far as the accent/diction thing goes, I still heard it loud and clear..but I'll just leave it at that. One thing that got on my nerves was that Pineda's constant use of those high pitched echo effect screams. I suppose some think it sounds cool, but it got on my last nerve. It's one thing to use it at the end of Separate Ways, but it seemed like he wanted to use it in just about every up tempo song Journey played that night. I thought Deen was excellent on Keep on Runnin' and Still They Ride. I could have listened to him on lead vocals all night long.

Night Ranger was awesome though. They really play a good show. And yeah, the "North Dakota" thing from Jack blades left me scratching my head, but I have feeling that's probably not the first time something like that has happened. Honestly, the biggest pop from the crowd for Journey was Separate Ways (of course, it was the first song played) Open Arms, and Don't Stop Believin'. I saw a lot of the crowd sitting through all of the Revelation stuff. All in all, this concert really didn't leave me excited about this line up. Maybe it was because I wasn't feeling so well that night, but it just didn't blow me away. With the exception of a couple of those songs, I really thought the setlist was pretty predictable. I predicted LTS as the encore song before they played it....was surprised that was the only encore song they played. I probably won't go back to any more Journey concerts unless something big happens in the band. I just didn't get any excitement from that night...except for some of the halter top hotties I saw in the crowd...LOL!

[kgdjpubs]

t. One thing that got on my nerves was that Pineda's constant use of those high pitched echo effect screams. I suppose some think it sounds cool, but it got on my last nerve. It's one thing to use it at the end of Separate Ways, but it seemed like he wanted to use it in just about every up tempo song Journey played that night.

Is it Arnel triggering the echo, or the sound guy triggering it? I thought it was overdone also, but Arnel MAY not be the one to blame there.

As far as Higher Place, I thought he sounded fine on that, but I was to the side of the stage, so didn't get the full vocal mix that someone directly in front would get. For what it's worth, I don't think the sound mix did them any favors that night, but that being said, I don't think I have EVER heard good sound in the Greensboro Coliseum. It's a building filled with echos, and the louder the volume, the worse the echos.

[stevew2]

t. One thing that got on my nerves was that Pineda's constant use of those high pitched echo effect screams. I suppose some think it sounds cool, but it got on my last nerve. It's one thing to use it at the end of Separate Ways, but it seemed like he wanted to use it in just about every up tempo song Journey played that night.

Is it Arnel triggering the echo, or the sound guy triggering it? I thought it was overdone also, but Arnel MAY not be the one to blame there.

As far as Higher Place, I thought he sounded fine on that, but I was to the side of the stage, so didn't get the full vocal mix that someone directly in front would get. For what it's worth, I don't think the sound mix did them any favors that night, but that being said, I don't think I have EVER heard good sound in the Greensboro Coliseum. It's a building filled with echos, and the louder the volume, the worse the echos.

i noticed the over use of echos also, and it wasnt the arena

[Greg]

t. One thing that got on my nerves was that Pineda's constant use of those high pitched echo effect screams. I suppose some think it sounds cool, but it got on my last nerve. It's one thing to use it at the end of Separate Ways, but it seemed like he wanted to use it in just about every up tempo song Journey played that night.

Is it Arnel triggering the echo, or the sound guy triggering it? I thought it was overdone also, but Arnel MAY not be the one to blame there.

As far as Higher Place, I thought he sounded fine on that, but I was to the side of the stage, so didn't get the full vocal mix that someone directly in front would get. For what it's worth, I don't think the sound mix did them any favors that night, but that being said, I don't think I have EVER heard good sound in the Greensboro Coliseum. It's a building filled with echos, and the louder the volume, the worse the echos.

Yeah, I will say that Coliseum is notorious for causing some echo issues with lead vocal volumes...although I thought Kelly Keagy sounded loud and clear. I was there when Van Halen played there, and it was tough to hear David Lee Roth at times. I was wondering if Arnel was triggering the echo effect or the soundboard guy. I'm thinking Arnel may have triggered them, because they were just at random times during several songs.

[Greg]

But, one positive coming from that night is that I noticed AC/DC is coming to Greensboro in October, so I might try to get tickets for that concert.

[Chubby321]

Damn, and I thought I am the "pinheadest" of them all. This person just beat me.


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Sept18,2009 Greensboro
Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 7:27 am - RoxanneRoland

Arnel, Thanks for the sweat or spit. Once you stepped from the speaker box to the rail, I didn't expect it. But I was absolutely blessed and thankful to be that close; I still haven't washed that side of my face !! You sang every word & every note and I could hear you. Being front row and center was WORTH IT!! You are hereby completely accepted as Journey lead vocalist!!! We love to hear you sing. You are blessed, and I am touched that your life really has "changed for the better". Thanks for an AMAZING show. You encourage us to make our dreams come true!
Your happy supporter...The real Roxanne

[steveo777]

Damn, and I thought I am the "pinheadest" of them all. This person just beat me.


Blog entry from Journey Forum.

Sept18,2009 Greensboro
Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 7:27 am - RoxanneRoland

Arnel, Thanks for the sweat or spit. Once you stepped from the speaker box to the rail, I didn't expect it. But I was absolutely blessed and thankful to be that close; I still haven't washed that side of my face !! You sang every word & every note and I could hear you. Being front row and center was WORTH IT!! You are hereby completely accepted as Journey lead vocalist!!! We love to hear you sing. You are blessed, and I am touched that your life really has "changed for the better". Thanks for an AMAZING show. You encourage us to make our dreams come true!
Your happy supporter...The real Roxanne

Let me understand this.....AP is spitting on people and they are liking it. I think we've just discovered a new species of loon.

[Michigan Girl]

Damn, and I thought I am the "pinheadest" of them all. This person just beat me.


Blog entry from Journey Forum.

Sept18,2009 Greensboro
Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 7:27 am - RoxanneRoland

Arnel, Thanks for the sweat or spit. Once you stepped from the speaker box to the rail, I didn't expect it. But I was absolutely blessed and thankful to be that close; I still haven't washed that side of my face !! You sang every word & every note and I could hear you. Being front row and center was WORTH IT!! You are hereby completely accepted as Journey lead vocalist!!! We love to hear you sing. You are blessed, and I am touched that your life really has "changed for the better". Thanks for an AMAZING show. You encourage us to make our dreams come true!
Your happy supporter...The real Roxanne

What did the fake Roxanne write, Chubbs?!?!?

[stevew2]

Damn, and I thought I am the "pinheadest" of them all. This person just beat me.


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Sept18,2009 Greensboro
Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 7:27 am - RoxanneRoland

Arnel, Thanks for the sweat or spit. Once you stepped from the speaker box to the rail, I didn't expect it. But I was absolutely blessed and thankful to be that close; I still haven't washed that side of my face !! You sang every word & every note and I could hear you. Being front row and center was WORTH IT!! You are hereby completely accepted as Journey lead vocalist!!! We love to hear you sing. You are blessed, and I am touched that your life really has "changed for the better". Thanks for an AMAZING show. You encourage us to make our dreams come true!
Your happy supporter...The real Roxanne

Let me understand this.....AP is spitting on people and they are liking it. I think we've just discovered a new species of loon.

Thats funny as shit ,sounds like a song "He spit on my face and I liked it, it tasted that cherry chapstick" What a bunch of retards

[perryswoman]

Damn, and I thought I am the "pinheadest" of them all. This person just beat me.


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Sept18,2009 Greensboro
Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 7:27 am - RoxanneRoland

Arnel, Thanks for the sweat or spit. Once you stepped from the speaker box to the rail, I didn't expect it. But I was absolutely blessed and thankful to be that close; I still haven't washed that side of my face !! You sang every word & every note and I could hear you. Being front row and center was WORTH IT!! You are hereby completely accepted as Journey lead vocalist!!! We love to hear you sing. You are blessed, and I am touched that your life really has "changed for the better". Thanks for an AMAZING show. You encourage us to make our dreams come true!
Your happy supporter...The real Roxanne

What did the fake Roxanne write, Chubbs?!?!?

Now that my friend is abit out there!! Just Sayin!!

Also I would like to ad saw them in Charlotte last year in 3rd row and sound was awesome!! Saw them in columbia in 2006 with Jss in about 20th row and sound was incredible!! Actually the best I have ever seen that night but Greensboro was not loud enough, alot of echo and honestly Arnel sounded alittle drowned out. Sound was pretty crappy but hey I still had a blast!!

[Chubby321]

Damn, and I thought I am the "pinheadest" of them all. This person just beat me.


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Sept18,2009 Greensboro
Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 7:27 am - RoxanneRoland

Arnel, Thanks for the sweat or spit. Once you stepped from the speaker box to the rail, I didn't expect it. But I was absolutely blessed and thankful to be that close; I still haven't washed that side of my face !! You sang every word & every note and I could hear you. Being front row and center was WORTH IT!! You are hereby completely accepted as Journey lead vocalist!!! We love to hear you sing. You are blessed, and I am touched that your life really has "changed for the better". Thanks for an AMAZING show. You encourage us to make our dreams come true!
Your happy supporter...The real Roxanne

Let me understand this.....AP is spitting on people and they are liking it. I think we've just discovered a new species of loon.

Excuse me....ehem........it's pinhead.....

[Chubby321]

Damn, and I thought I am the "pinheadest" of them all. This person just beat me.


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Sept18,2009 Greensboro
Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 7:27 am - RoxanneRoland

Arnel, Thanks for the sweat or spit. Once you stepped from the speaker box to the rail, I didn't expect it. But I was absolutely blessed and thankful to be that close; I still haven't washed that side of my face !! You sang every word & every note and I could hear you. Being front row and center was WORTH IT!! You are hereby completely accepted as Journey lead vocalist!!! We love to hear you sing. You are blessed, and I am touched that your life really has "changed for the better". Thanks for an AMAZING show. You encourage us to make our dreams come true!
Your happy supporter...The real Roxanne

What did the fake Roxanne write, Chubbs?!?!?

I don't know

[kellyhansenfan]

Actually I think MY seat was front row center:) Dead at the mic stand! Odd....Arnel stood between my friend Trish (who is not on ANY message boards) on the rail and a guy. He even held on to my friends shoulder.....hmmmmm......

[stevew2]

I was at the Greensboro, NC concert Friday night. I thought Arnel's best song was Send Her My Love. The rest was just, eh. I thought he butchered Higher Place. It just didn't sound right to me. As far as the accent/diction thing goes, I still heard it loud and clear..but I'll just leave it at that. One thing that got on my nerves was that Pineda's constant use of those high pitched echo effect screams. I suppose some think it sounds cool, but it got on my last nerve. It's one thing to use it at the end of Separate Ways, but it seemed like he wanted to use it in just about every up tempo song Journey played that night. I thought Deen was excellent on Keep on Runnin' and Still They Ride. I could have listened to him on lead vocals all night long.

Night Ranger was awesome though. They really play a good show. And yeah, the "North Dakota" thing from Jack blades left me scratching my head, but I have feeling that's probably not the first time something like that has happened. Honestly, the biggest pop from the crowd for Journey was Separate Ways (of course, it was the first song played) Open Arms, and Don't Stop Believin'. I saw a lot of the crowd sitting through all of the Revelation stuff. All in all, this concert really didn't leave me excited about this line up. Maybe it was because I wasn't feeling so well that night, but it just didn't blow me away. With the exception of a couple of those songs, I really thought the setlist was pretty predictable. I predicted LTS as the encore song before they played it....was surprised that was the only encore song they played. I probably won't go back to any more Journey concerts unless something big happens in the band. I just didn't get any excitement from that night...except for some of the halter top hotties I saw in the crowd...LOL!

Deen did Higher Place in Richmond, Im glad I got the hear him do it.He kicked ass on it,it was cool hearing him sing it, then poundin the hell out of the drums

[lbeau12]

This was my 12th show and I have to say it sounded like shit. I was center stage 23 rows back and there was so much echo it sounded like the drums were doubled. I could barely hear the guitar and there was no seperation between anything it was just all mushed together. I have never been to this venue before so I do not know if it was the venue or what. They could have played something beside Wildest Dreams.I had heard rumours that they might play Winds Of March as they had been rehearsing it. However as everyone knows most people at the shows either have never heard Journey live before and just what they get off the radio or Greatest Hits. The people beside me only had Frontiers and never heard of half the Journey songs/albums I was talking to them about before the show. This was my wifes second show we saw themn last year in Charlotte and she said they sounded better in Charlotte. In they end we can all bitch and moan about what songs they play but it is up to them what they want to play.

[fightingilliniJRNY]

This was my 12th show and I have to say it sounded like shit. I was center stage 23 rows back and there was so much echo it sounded like the drums were doubled. I could barely hear the guitar and there was no seperation between anything it was just all mushed together. I have never been to this venue before so I do not know if it was the venue or what.

Yep, blame the sound issues on the venue. You aren't the only person to complain about the sound this year. That's what happens when a band tries to play a rock show in a place built for basketball or hockey. They don't take acoustics into account when designing many of the older arenas. It's the downfall of playing other markets that they usually don't hit on a major tour - you don't play in the highest quality venues.

This was my wifes second show we saw themn last year in Charlotte and she said they sounded better in Charlotte.

Amphitheater, built for concerts - versus Greensboro Coliseum, built in 1959 (!!!) primarily for basketball and hockey.

In they end we can all bitch and moan about what songs they play but it is up to them what they want to play.

Amen.

[Greg]

This was my 12th show and I have to say it sounded like shit. I was center stage 23 rows back and there was so much echo it sounded like the drums were doubled. I could barely hear the guitar and there was no seperation between anything it was just all mushed together. I have never been to this venue before so I do not know if it was the venue or what.

Yep, blame the sound issues on the venue. You aren't the only person to complain about the sound this year. That's what happens when a band tries to play a rock show in a place built for basketball or hockey. They don't take acoustics into account when designing many of the older arenas. It's the downfall of playing other markets that they usually don't hit on a major tour - you don't play in the highest quality venues.

This was my wifes second show we saw themn last year in Charlotte and she said they sounded better in Charlotte.

Amphitheater, built for concerts - versus Greensboro Coliseum, built in 1959 (!!!) primarily for basketball and hockey.

In they end we can all bitch and moan about what songs they play but it is up to them what they want to play.

Amen.

I thought Night Ranger sounded good that night, so I don't know if you can blame it completely on the venue. I saw TSO last year there and the sound (and everything else) was amazing.

[lights1961]

I was at the Greensboro, NC concert Friday night. I thought Arnel's best song was Send Her My Love. The rest was just, eh. I thought he butchered Higher Place. It just didn't sound right to me. As far as the accent/diction thing goes, I still heard it loud and clear..but I'll just leave it at that. One thing that got on my nerves was that Pineda's constant use of those high pitched echo effect screams. I suppose some think it sounds cool, but it got on my last nerve. It's one thing to use it at the end of Separate Ways, but it seemed like he wanted to use it in just about every up tempo song Journey played that night. I thought Deen was excellent on Keep on Runnin' and Still They Ride. I could have listened to him on lead vocals all night long.

Night Ranger was awesome though. They really play a good show. And yeah, the "North Dakota" thing from Jack blades left me scratching my head, but I have feeling that's probably not the first time something like that has happened. Honestly, the biggest pop from the crowd for Journey was Separate Ways (of course, it was the first song played) Open Arms, and Don't Stop Believin'. I saw a lot of the crowd sitting through all of the Revelation stuff. All in all, this concert really didn't leave me excited about this line up. Maybe it was because I wasn't feeling so well that night, but it just didn't blow me away. With the exception of a couple of those songs, I really thought the setlist was pretty predictable. I predicted LTS as the encore song before they played it....was surprised that was the only encore song they played. I probably won't go back to any more Journey concerts unless something big happens in the band. I just didn't get any excitement from that night...except for some of the halter top hotties I saw in the crowd...LOL!

good review Greg.

I did not go inside the grandstand at the Iowa State fair Aug 23... ... but listened outside the grandstand with 100's of other people as the show was sold out in DM... I can tell you that HERAT's sound was amazing the band was tight... ANNS voice was killer...

Journey on the other hand... Arnel did okay on Seperate ways and that song was awesome...but like others here... was not a fan of the longer extensions of the songs, its fun for the band, but the crowd gets bored after awhile...... thought STONE IN LOVE was horrible... the worst rendition ever... the band was all over the place on that song... lights sounded okay... but only the young and ask the lonely this year should have been replaced with evolution songs... just the same way maybe too late... oh well maybe I am getting old and critical of the once great journey...but eh... compared to how HEART sounded... journey was just average that night...

R