Neal Schon vs Hugo & Evolution tribute Band

[Aaron]

At least I'm not in denial Rick.

1. Hugo and Valentine have put out better Journey material than Journey over the last decade...

Pffffffffffffff

Aaron's a Hugohead. I think Hugo is great on his Valentine stuff. Just not my favorite singer on Journey material.

[JasonD]

People...I think we should say a prayer for Jason. He's been holding his breath since Friday night. Link please.

Yes, & I can't hold it very much longer. It was REALLY difficult sleeping last night without breathing. My whole body is blue & I can't hold my breath very much longer. Doesn't anybody care to share the Neal Schon Facebook link or do I have to call him on the phone? .... Cuz I will, ya know. Don't test me.

[Angel]

People...I think we should say a prayer for Jason. He's been holding his breath since Friday night. Link please.

Yes, & I can't hold it very much longer. It was REALLY difficult sleeping last night without breathing. My whole body is blue & I can't hold my breath very much longer. Doesn't anybody care to share the Neal Schon Facebook link or do I have to call him on the phone? .... Cuz I will, ya know. Don't test me.

http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=neal+schonn&init=quick#/profile.php?id=1344830309&ref=search&sid=1494734847.3796103452..1

Breathe, Baby, breathe!!!!!!!!

[Aaron]

Mac, please fill us in on Monday.

Just heard that there is a story behind this, but have not yet been told what that is. Don't have time to talk ont he phone with my contact today, so I'll hang out until Monday to hear what this is all about.

[texafana]

It is SO rude to talk bad about someone without giving the rest of us a link to the drama so we can join in the fun-fest. Hint-hint.

I agree. Should have been a link right away to back it up.

[StoneCold]

I'm guessing that having his son share the bill with Evolution the day before Journey show's show this weekend (in the band's neck of the woods) might not have made his day...? C'mon, even at a private pot luck for diehard fans?

http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=43688

Now that is funny!!!

But it should be noted that this is a completely different Evolution...Hugo's band has a show in Long Island that same night.

http://www.myspace.com/werevolution

LOL, poor Hugo gets the blame and he's not even the band at Frank's gig? That darn Perry'll do it to ya everytime.

Eric, thanks for clarifying.

[portland]

It is SO rude to talk bad about someone without giving the rest of us a link to the drama so we can join in the fun-fest. Hint-hint.

I agree. Should have been a link right away to back it up.

Yes but the link won't work unless you are Neal's friend on Facebook

[StoneCold]

It is SO rude to talk bad about someone without giving the rest of us a link to the drama so we can join in the fun-fest. Hint-hint.

I agree. Should have been a link right away to back it up.

Yes but the link won't work unless you are Neal's friend on Facebook

Now you want Jason to put on the cheerleader outfit? C'mon, have a heart.

[portland]

It is SO rude to talk bad about someone without giving the rest of us a link to the drama so we can join in the fun-fest. Hint-hint.

I agree. Should have been a link right away to back it up.

Yes but the link won't work unless you are Neal's friend on Facebook

Now you want Jason to put on the cheerleader outfit? C'mon, have a heart.

What Jason could make a cute cheerleader......

[Glenn]

It is SO rude to talk bad about someone without giving the rest of us a link to the drama so we can join in the fun-fest. Hint-hint.

I agree. Should have been a link right away to back it up.

Yes but the link won't work unless you are Neal's friend on Facebook

Now you want Jason to put on the cheerleader outfit? C'mon, have a heart.

What Jason could make a cute cheerleader......

does he have a nice rack ?!

[Voyager]

What is the URL for Hugo's Facebook account?

[Ligzig]

Are we talking about looks or sound? There's no mistaking Hugo isn't Perry by sound.

But there's no mistaking that Arnel isn't Perry by both sound OR looks...and with respect to sound, that's not a good thing any more than it is with Hugo.

Opinions are opinions.

Ingenious post...did you come up with this all by your lonesome? A 30 post history really goes alot farther these days...oh the wisdom.

I've been lurking here for years, I just felt no need to participate. Ever think about that? this is a PUBLIC forum, not your secret internet club house.

[JasonD]

It is SO rude to talk bad about someone without giving the rest of us a link to the drama so we can join in the fun-fest. Hint-hint.

I agree. Should have been a link right away to back it up.

Yes but the link won't work unless you are Neal's friend on Facebook

Well I nevah!!!! Damn that Neal----I guess that leaves me out. I don't have a Facebook account. I know nothing about Facebook & how it works. I don't even have a Myspace account & don't even ask me about Twitter. That's WAY too newfangled for me. I'm computer stupid. Don't know what I'm supposed to do on any of those sites. Guess I'll just go back to watching porn.

.... & btw all, I would make a damn fine cheerleader!!!!

[strangegrey]

Are we talking about looks or sound? There's no mistaking Hugo isn't Perry by sound.

But there's no mistaking that Arnel isn't Perry by both sound OR looks...and with respect to sound, that's not a good thing any more than it is with Hugo.

Opinions are opinions.

Either that or a obvious display of musical obliviousness. Both Arnel and Hugo are sonically discernable from Perry...not really an opinion here.

Ingenious post...did you come up with this all by your lonesome? A 30 post history really goes alot farther these days...oh the wisdom.

I've been lurking here for years, I just felt no need to participate. Ever think about that? this is a PUBLIC forum, not your secret internet club house.

I'm not the only one that's going to question your comments as genuine with a 31 post history. There hasn't been many newbies that come in here squeezing off a few rounds without some long-term posters (who've been here long term and can prove it) questioning their motives.

[Ligzig]

Either that or a obvious display of musical obliviousness. Both Arnel and Hugo are sonically discernable from Perry...not really an opinion here.

Of course that's not an opinion...the opinion is liking either one of those guys' sound, and I think Hugo sounds like ass, anyone mistaking THAT for Perry is insulting.

I'm not the only one that's going to question your comments as genuine with a 31 post history. There hasn't been many newbies that come in here squeezing off a few rounds without some long-term posters (who've been here long term and can prove it) questioning their motives.

I started lurking when tapegate was going on, not really being into Journey much. I don't have any proof, but then again I don't really need any...isn't this the place where opinions are often used as facts?

[strangegrey]

Of course that's not an opinion...the opinion is liking either one of those guys' sound, and I think Hugo sounds like ass, anyone mistaking THAT for Perry is insulting.

We're getting circular here. Don't you think? Liking or disliking a voice is an opinion. Being able to clearly discern who is who, moves a little more into the fact category supported by a fairly educated set of ears. I'm assuming that anyone who posts here, has educated ears (or else you'd be on a Nirvana or Pearl Jam Board)....

I'm not the only one that's going to question your comments as genuine with a 31 post history. There hasn't been many newbies that come in here squeezing off a few rounds without some long-term posters (who've been here long term and can prove it) questioning their motives.

I started lurking when tapegate was going on, not really being into Journey much. I don't have any proof, but then again I don't really need any...isn't this the place where opinions are often used as facts?

I just think you might need to tone down the rhetoric. I'm not the only one who's going to go "hey, calm down you've only got 30 posts"....Andrew's bitch slapped and banned posters with more posts than you for coming in without much past contribution and firing a few rounds into the crowd. I'd love to see more posters come in here....but I gaurantee you, my first 30-100 posts here weren't arrogant (not saying yours are) or argumentative....

I waited until about post 101

[Glenn]

So what's more fraudulant, some group pretending to be Journey with a Steve Perry lookalike or the real Journey using playback at their shows for a few years?

i gotta go with real journey using prerecorded vocals rather than live. i still can't believe they did that. how messed up is that? bamboozle, fraud, deceitful, shameful, dishonest, disappointing to say the least, i could go on.

please do....How may more do ya have ?

[Red13JoePa]

It is SO rude to talk bad about someone without giving the rest of us a link to the drama so we can join in the fun-fest. Hint-hint.

I agree. Should have been a link right away to back it up.

Yes but the link won't work unless you are Neal's friend on Facebook

I am and I saw it all, no biggie just Neal venting a little frustration...

[brywool]

Yeah - with people using the artwork and the name Journey inappropriately. And if it's true, he has every right to be pissed off. Being a tribute band is one thing. But if someone is using the Journey logo and misleading people like Neal claims - it is not acceptable. He has every right to want to protect what he has built with Journey.

Agreed. A lot of Hugo's stuff is really good, but he should stick to doing his own stuff- that means touring it, promoting it. If I had that talent and distribution, I would not waste time doing a cover thing. I'd want to stand out on my own. Watching Hugo do the Perry thing is... well, it's kinda creepy Beav. Looks more dorky than cool to me, though the mofo can definitely sing, though he doesn't have the power of Perry or Arnel. However, if he wants to do a tribute thing, that's cool, but it has to be clear that it's a tribute. I'm amazed at how many Joe 6packs out there cannot (or do not) read the fine print. It's obvious that it's a tribute act, but there are some that see what they want to see. I think that for the tribute band to follow Journey around is good business for them, but they really should respect Schon's wishes, especially if they want to keep doing what they're doing.

To the wankers that keep saying "well, at least Hugo sings it in the original key"- yeah, you try doing the touring schedule Journey's doing and see how long you hold up. Hugo's band doesn't have the schedule that Journey does.

[whirlwind]

I have not heard any of the Tribute bands. It's seems that one of them states that they are better than the real thing as it is today.
Any agree on this?
I'm waiting for Jeremey to chime in on this discussion.

[whirlwind]

Schon should realize, that to many of the fans, Journey feels more like a tribute band than the real thing, since they find it necessary to have a vocalist that has to have the Perry sound and using the Perryisms from their greatest hits. No nasty comment this, just an observation.

[steveo777]

Schon should realize, that to many of the fans, Journey feels more like a tribute band than the real thing, since they find it necessary to have a vocalist that has to have the Perry sound and using the Perryisms from their greatest hits. No nasty comment this, just an observation.

And why, do you suppose that is?

Answer: It sells

They're providing what the general fanbase is paying for. They can't even get the audiance onboard with some of the newer songs, let alone reinvent themselves altogether.

[parfait]

I still think neal is overreacting, but geez...




And this was Neal's response to the poster: Ok, now tell me this is not misleading?? (THE JOURNEY SHOW) SEPARATE WAYS . This is Hugo , Now is he from( Evolution) or (Separate Ways) ?? Or is he trying to make you believe this is a solo S.P. gig ?? You tell me... No ware on this poster do I see (A Tribute to Journey) Fraudulent Bull Shit!.... You be the judge....

That's just wrong - since 98 % of Journey's fanbase is " SHIT DON'T STOP BELIEVIN' IS COOLEZT SOONG WOOOH" greatest hits fans, it sure would be easy to mistake that poster for the real deal with SMFP. Cool scarab though - where have I seen that one before?

[Blueskies]

I still think neal is overreacting, but geez...




And this was Neal's response to the poster: Ok, now tell me this is not misleading?? (THE JOURNEY SHOW) SEPARATE WAYS . This is Hugo , Now is he from( Evolution) or (Separate Ways) ?? Or is he trying to make you believe this is a solo S.P. gig ?? You tell me... No ware on this poster do I see (A Tribute to Journey) Fraudulent Bull Shit!.... You be the judge....

That's just wrong - since 98 % of Journey's fanbase is " SHIT DON'T STOP BELIEVIN' IS COOLEZT SOONG WOOOH" greatest hits fans, it sure would be easy to mistake that poster for the real deal with SMFP. Cool scarab though - where have I seen that one before?

I think Neal definitely has a huge point of contention after seeing that poster, now.

[chynablue]

I realize everyone is entitled to their opinion. And maybe some folks aren't bright enough to read the domain name on the page, or the words SEPARATE WAYS - or are maybe even fooled into believing that Journey is playing a small cafe in town? But surely us diehards can see that this isn't Evolution or even a Hugo show, but something that was put together in Hawaii where Hugo flew out to guest.

Hmm, isn't this also the same venue that festered rumors last year that Steve Perry was playing a gig there?

I'm sure that all of this must amount to some very frustrating situations for Neal, no doubt - but clearly Hugo isn't masterminding it all.

I still think neal is overreacting, but geez...




And this was Neal's response to the poster: Ok, now tell me this is not misleading?? (THE JOURNEY SHOW) SEPARATE WAYS . This is Hugo , Now is he from( Evolution) or (Separate Ways) ?? Or is he trying to make you believe this is a solo S.P. gig ?? You tell me... No ware on this poster do I see (A Tribute to Journey) Fraudulent Bull Shit!.... You be the judge....

That's just wrong - since 98 % of Journey's fanbase is " SHIT DON'T STOP BELIEVIN' IS COOLEZT SOONG WOOOH" greatest hits fans, it sure would be easy to mistake that poster for the real deal with SMFP. Cool scarab though - where have I seen that one before?

[steveperryfan]

ok here it is ..... you want someone from a journey tribute this is the bass player that plays with hugo in EVOLUTION ... this all gets us pist ,, this all stems from a concert in jersey ,,, neal schon has know of us for a long time .... this is bewteen neal a hugo ,,,, the band can not grasp the old sound which is what we aim toward ,,, some like us some hate us ,, no matter ,, i can not talk to much about what went on about bamboozel because of a no talk clause ,,,, but what i can tel you is is you go to our webite since bamboozle we have no video , no audio, and we use our own graphics.. this is what we have been doing since then ,we never did anything different then anyother tribute , we are in our the legal rights and plan on still having fun performing journey hit to fans out there as a tribute ... it is not fair that we are the singled out tribute that can not use video and graphics , all the other tributes out there are using video and journey graphics ,we our being watched ...why and who are we bothering , someone is worried about us , you can not post video's on you site with out a sync licnese or use graphics with out permission .. we thew out all of our graphics and stripped our website to conform to the leagal statute ,, it is funny why go after us and not any other tribute , it makes you think ... neal does not like hugo's voice , so be it , who cares about t tribute band if you are the real thing ,, is he threatend?why would he think this ,,,, there is something underlying .... neal knows about the other tributes out there and lets them get away with all of the ilegal stuff on there sites ,, so this is to all of the tributes out there , this is only the beginnig with this ,,, there will be issuses from this from other type of tributes out there soon , it had to come to this .... i agree that you must present your self proper ,, we can not help ourselsves that we look like the band a bit ,, agian o know we have haters and likers the is life there are more journey tributes out there then ever know ...what should neal do now ....i do not dislike anyone in the band i am just caught in the hugo vs neal cross fire ... ...

[Rip Rokken]

I still think neal is overreacting, but geez...




And this was Neal's response to the poster: Ok, now tell me this is not misleading?? (THE JOURNEY SHOW) SEPARATE WAYS . This is Hugo , Now is he from( Evolution) or (Separate Ways) ?? Or is he trying to make you believe this is a solo S.P. gig ?? You tell me... No ware on this poster do I see (A Tribute to Journey) Fraudulent Bull Shit!.... You be the judge....

Neal has a definite point -- does anyone remember the gig earlier in the year (or was it last year) where Evolution was basically advertised AS Journey? There was a thread here about it, and an article mentioning that many people were fooled and thought they were watching Journey. Some YouTube clips, too. I don't know if that promotion came from the band or the venue, but I'm surprised it still continues.

[steveperryfan]

evolution had nothing to do with that poster or that gig ..... the band that did that should have know and i don't blame neal on this ,,,, this is why in evolution we do not mislead ,,, this is just proff of what can happen

[steveperryfan]

evolution had nothing to do with that poster or that gig ..... the band that did that should have know and i don't blame neal on this ,,,, this is why in evolution we do not mislead ,,, this is just proff of what can happen

we were never advertised as journey ,, we we a surprise guest ,,,they never said who we were , we just played 5 songs and left ...... can't talk more about this other then thiis a closed book on this and we have moved foraward and this it is not why we can not do what all other tributes are doing on there websites

[JasonD]

If I saw that poster I would think that was Steve Perry & that he recently got married & didn't invite me to the wedding. Heads would roll.