Chubby321 wrote:But at the end of the day, good or bad, Neal owns Journey; he can do whatever he wants to protect it.
Oh, would you listen to yourself!!!

Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
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Chubby321 wrote:But at the end of the day, good or bad, Neal owns Journey; he can do whatever he wants to protect it.
strangegrey wrote:Chubby321 wrote:But at the end of the day, good or bad, Neal owns Journey; he can do whatever he wants to protect it.
Oh, would you listen to yourself!!!Holy shit....do you take mud baths in bullshit as well or is shovelling it just a day hobby?
Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Chubby321 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Chubby321 wrote:But at the end of the day, good or bad, Neal owns Journey; he can do whatever he wants to protect it.
Oh, would you listen to yourself!!!Holy shit....do you take mud baths in bullshit as well or is shovelling it just a day hobby?
Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Anybody who owns a business will do everything to make his venture profitable. It' maybe exploitation to you but he's just being business savvy.
Neal is not doing anything different from your employer, granting you have one.
Gunbot wrote:Chubby321 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Chubby321 wrote:But at the end of the day, good or bad, Neal owns Journey; he can do whatever he wants to protect it.
Oh, would you listen to yourself!!!Holy shit....do you take mud baths in bullshit as well or is shovelling it just a day hobby?
Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Anybody who owns a business will do everything to make his venture profitable. It' maybe exploitation to you but he's just being business savvy.
Neal is not doing anything different from your employer, granting you have one.
If you're going to make it personal, you deserve the beatdown you're about to get.
Rockindeano wrote:cyndy! wrote:Neal Schon (via blog) wrote:Heads up! ESCAPE the ( Journey tribute band ) will most likely be hitting your town selling this crap as (The Journey Show) Fraudulent and misleading .
i don't know anything about the band he's referring to, but from the statement above, i understood that neal may have an issue with the band advertising themselves as "the journey show." i would consider that fraudulent & misleading, if that were true.
The "Journey Show" is no more fraudulent than a "Night with Journey and the Tape Machine."
Remember that shit Schon? Of course you don't, you had no knowledge of that did you?![]()
If anyone is a fraudulent act, it's you and your band. We should have brought a class action suit against you and Azoff for all the deception you brought to the stage.
Chubby321 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Chubby321 wrote:But at the end of the day, good or bad, Neal owns Journey; he can do whatever he wants to protect it.
Oh, would you listen to yourself!!!Holy shit....do you take mud baths in bullshit as well or is shoveling it just a day hobby?
Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Anybody who owns a business will do everything to make his venture profitable. It maybe exploitation to you but he's just being business savvy.
Neal is not doing anything different from your employer, granting you have one.
strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! That douche Schon has been milking every fucking cent out of exploiting the name "Journey" as long as I can remember. That said, he is certainly more entitled to do this than that freak Hugo is. I don't get the sperm burpers in here who swoon over a guy who Perry should sue for trying to steal his identity. Having a reverence and respect for a singer like Perry should be applauded, but Hugo takes it to a creepy fucking level. Trying to dress exactly like a fucking guy and emulate his mannerisms is just plain fucking bizarre and the dude needs to join the rest of us back here on the planet Earth!
Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! That douche Schon has been milking every fucking cent out of exploiting the name "Journey" as long as I can remember. That said, he is certainly more entitled to do this than that freak Hugo is. I don't get the sperm burpers in here who swoon over a guy who Perry should sue for trying to steal his identity. Having a reverence and respect for a singer like Perry should be applauded, but Hugo takes it to a creepy fucking level. Trying to dress exactly like a fucking guy and emulate his mannerisms is just plain fucking bizarre and the dude needs to join the rest of us back here on the planet Earth!
strangegrey wrote:The thing is, dude...he (hugo) has been doing this for 15 years
strangegrey wrote:....he looks/sounds alike...but it's not something he does intentionally
strangegrey wrote: ....but to attack Hugo for his schtick is not really knowing the guy...and just painting it as you see it from the limited distance.
strangegrey wrote:Regardless, for Neal to call hugo a 'fraud' is like a thief complaining that another thief that got to the jewels first is breaking the law.
Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:The thing is, dude...he (hugo) has been doing this for 15 years
Longevity doesn't minimize how creepy I find Hugo to be!strangegrey wrote:....he looks/sounds alike...but it's not something he does intentionally
I couldn't disagree with you more vehemently! I've seen many pictures of Hugo, and I'm fairly certain that he wouldn't dress the way he dresses if he were just innocently resembling Perry. There is NOTHING remotely coincidental about the way this guy dresses or the way he carries himself. The dude looks like he robbed Perry's closet from back in 1981. Hell, I suspect he had to find a store from 1981 to even find the crap he parades around in!'strangegrey wrote: ....but to attack Hugo for his schtick is not really knowing the guy...and just painting it as you see it from the limited distance.
No disagreement from me here. You're absolutely correct. I know nothing about this guy, aside from the clips I've seen of him on the net over the years. I simply find his act in very poor taste and I don't think he's half the singer that many others apparently think he is!strangegrey wrote:Regardless, for Neal to call hugo a 'fraud' is like a thief complaining that another thief that got to the jewels first is breaking the law.
It's tough to disagree with you here. The one thing I will say in Neal's defense (even though it pains me to EVER defend that douche) is that if Hugo and his management team are producing flyers with the name "Journey" prominently displayed with "Tribute Band" in miniscule font, and also using the band's artwork, the guy is WAY out of line and Hugo and his crew have zero right to do that, as far as I'm concerned! Even though I think the guys calling themselves "Journey" in 2009 are nothing more than a tribute band, Neal is entitled to use the name...much to my chagrin!
steveo777 wrote:Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:The thing is, dude...he (hugo) has been doing this for 15 years
Longevity doesn't minimize how creepy I find Hugo to be!strangegrey wrote:....he looks/sounds alike...but it's not something he does intentionally
I couldn't disagree with you more vehemently! I've seen many pictures of Hugo, and I'm fairly certain that he wouldn't dress the way he dresses if he were just innocently resembling Perry. There is NOTHING remotely coincidental about the way this guy dresses or the way he carries himself. The dude looks like he robbed Perry's closet from back in 1981. Hell, I suspect he had to find a store from 1981 to even find the crap he parades around in!'strangegrey wrote: ....but to attack Hugo for his schtick is not really knowing the guy...and just painting it as you see it from the limited distance.
No disagreement from me here. You're absolutely correct. I know nothing about this guy, aside from the clips I've seen of him on the net over the years. I simply find his act in very poor taste and I don't think he's half the singer that many others apparently think he is!strangegrey wrote:Regardless, for Neal to call hugo a 'fraud' is like a thief complaining that another thief that got to the jewels first is breaking the law.
It's tough to disagree with you here. The one thing I will say in Neal's defense (even though it pains me to EVER defend that douche) is that if Hugo and his management team are producing flyers with the name "Journey" prominently displayed with "Tribute Band" in miniscule font, and also using the band's artwork, the guy is WAY out of line and Hugo and his crew have zero right to do that, as far as I'm concerned! Even though I think the guys calling themselves "Journey" in 2009 are nothing more than a tribute band, Neal is entitled to use the name...much to my chagrin!
Tribute bands don't have original members of the original band playing in them. 3 out of 5 of the heyday players are still playing. And, breaking news....Steve Perry was not Journey, so the no Perry / no Journey bullshit doesn't fly, except only in the minds of a certain ilk. You could have called Journey a tribute band when Fleischman left, if you want to start going down that road. I will, however respect that is your opinion, which is all any of us have here anyways. We're entitled to our likes and dislikes, but I think calling Journey a tribute band is a stretch.
Michigan Girl wrote:steveo777 wrote:Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:The thing is, dude...he (hugo) has been doing this for 15 years
Longevity doesn't minimize how creepy I find Hugo to be!strangegrey wrote:....he looks/sounds alike...but it's not something he does intentionally
I couldn't disagree with you more vehemently! I've seen many pictures of Hugo, and I'm fairly certain that he wouldn't dress the way he dresses if he were just innocently resembling Perry. There is NOTHING remotely coincidental about the way this guy dresses or the way he carries himself. The dude looks like he robbed Perry's closet from back in 1981. Hell, I suspect he had to find a store from 1981 to even find the crap he parades around in!'strangegrey wrote: ....but to attack Hugo for his schtick is not really knowing the guy...and just painting it as you see it from the limited distance.
No disagreement from me here. You're absolutely correct. I know nothing about this guy, aside from the clips I've seen of him on the net over the years. I simply find his act in very poor taste and I don't think he's half the singer that many others apparently think he is!strangegrey wrote:Regardless, for Neal to call hugo a 'fraud' is like a thief complaining that another thief that got to the jewels first is breaking the law.
It's tough to disagree with you here. The one thing I will say in Neal's defense (even though it pains me to EVER defend that douche) is that if Hugo and his management team are producing flyers with the name "Journey" prominently displayed with "Tribute Band" in miniscule font, and also using the band's artwork, the guy is WAY out of line and Hugo and his crew have zero right to do that, as far as I'm concerned! Even though I think the guys calling themselves "Journey" in 2009 are nothing more than a tribute band, Neal is entitled to use the name...much to my chagrin!
Tribute bands don't have original members of the original band playing in them. 3 out of 5 of the heyday players are still playing. And, breaking news....Steve Perry was not Journey, so the no Perry / no Journey bullshit doesn't fly, except only in the minds of a certain ilk. You could have called Journey a tribute band when Fleischman left, if you want to start going down that road. I will, however respect that is your opinion, which is all any of us have here anyways. We're entitled to our likes and dislikes, but I think calling Journey a tribute band is a stretch.
Except that Journey was nothing when Fleischman left, they became something w/Perry!!!
Breaking News...Steve Perry was a VERY IMPORTANT part of Journey!!! Of course Journey
still exists, thinking that it will ever be what it was w/Perry is a stretch, I know you hate to hear that!!
steveo777 wrote:
Tribute bands don't have original members of the original band playing in them. 3 out of 5 of the heyday players are still playing. And, breaking news....Steve Perry was not Journey, so the no Perry / no Journey bullshit doesn't fly, except only in the minds of a certain ilk. You could have called Journey a tribute band when Fleischman left, if you want to start going down that road. I will, however respect that is your opinion, which is all any of us have here anyways. We're entitled to our likes and dislikes, but I think calling Journey a tribute band is a stretch.
steveo777 wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:steveo777 wrote:Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:The thing is, dude...he (hugo) has been doing this for 15 years
Longevity doesn't minimize how creepy I find Hugo to be!strangegrey wrote:....he looks/sounds alike...but it's not something he does intentionally
I couldn't disagree with you more vehemently! I've seen many pictures of Hugo, and I'm fairly certain that he wouldn't dress the way he dresses if he were just innocently resembling Perry. There is NOTHING remotely coincidental about the way this guy dresses or the way he carries himself. The dude looks like he robbed Perry's closet from back in 1981. Hell, I suspect he had to find a store from 1981 to even find the crap he parades around in!'strangegrey wrote: ....but to attack Hugo for his schtick is not really knowing the guy...and just painting it as you see it from the limited distance.
No disagreement from me here. You're absolutely correct. I know nothing about this guy, aside from the clips I've seen of him on the net over the years. I simply find his act in very poor taste and I don't think he's half the singer that many others apparently think he is!strangegrey wrote:Regardless, for Neal to call hugo a 'fraud' is like a thief complaining that another thief that got to the jewels first is breaking the law.
It's tough to disagree with you here. The one thing I will say in Neal's defense (even though it pains me to EVER defend that douche) is that if Hugo and his management team are producing flyers with the name "Journey" prominently displayed with "Tribute Band" in miniscule font, and also using the band's artwork, the guy is WAY out of line and Hugo and his crew have zero right to do that, as far as I'm concerned! Even though I think the guys calling themselves "Journey" in 2009 are nothing more than a tribute band, Neal is entitled to use the name...much to my chagrin!
Tribute bands don't have original members of the original band playing in them. 3 out of 5 of the heyday players are still playing. And, breaking news....Steve Perry was not Journey, so the no Perry / no Journey bullshit doesn't fly, except only in the minds of a certain ilk. You could have called Journey a tribute band when Fleischman left, if you want to start going down that road. I will, however respect that is your opinion, which is all any of us have here anyways. We're entitled to our likes and dislikes, but I think calling Journey a tribute band is a stretch.
Except that Journey was nothing when Fleischman left, they became something w/Perry!!!
Breaking News...Steve Perry was a VERY IMPORTANT part of Journey!!! Of course Journey
still exists, thinking that it will ever be what it was w/Perry is a stretch, I know you hate to hear that!!
Are there really people that stupid? If Journey were to break out fresh today with the same players as 1983 it wouldn't happen either. The music climate has changed and AOR ain't what the masses are buying. They're buying all that other shit, most of which is an insult to music itself!![]()
strangegrey wrote:Chubby321 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Chubby321 wrote:But at the end of the day, good or bad, Neal owns Journey; he can do whatever he wants to protect it.
Oh, would you listen to yourself!!!Holy shit....do you take mud baths in bullshit as well or is shoveling it just a day hobby?
Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Anybody who owns a business will do everything to make his venture profitable. It maybe exploitation to you but he's just being business savvy.
Neal is not doing anything different from your employer, granting you have one.
You're an idiot. There are plenty of business owners/stakeholders that have exploited their businesses. Perhaps you've heard of Enron? Tyco? Worldcom? All cases where business stakeholders exploited the businesses they either owned or were responsible for managing for personal gain. You wouldn't know anything about that, however. You probably couldn't provide a clear explanation of the vehicles that Enron's management used to exploit the corporation.....hell, you don't fucking know what "Just The Same Way" was...how should I expect you to know and understand something that *really* matters, like actual business concepts.
My employer doesn't gut its business, repackage it to idiots like yourself and blindly attack comparable businesses without researching them. In fact, my employer's business exists to prevent such a very thing from happening....
You might want to try another blind stab in the dark...this one didn't work out too well for you. Granted, it might be better off if you renounce your fan-ship of this band, go home, buy infinity through TBF....do your homework...and come back when you're actually able to recollect the titles of the songs by the band you profess to be a fan of.
Michigan Girl wrote:Except that Journey was nothing when Fleischman left, they became something w/Perry!!!
Breaking News...Steve Perry was a VERY IMPORTANT part of Journey!!! Of course Journey
still exists, thinking that it will ever be what it was w/Perry is a stretch, I know you hate to hear that!!
Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! That douche Schon has been milking every fucking cent out of exploiting the name "Journey" as long as I can remember.
Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Except that Journey was nothing when Fleischman left, they became something w/Perry!!!
Breaking News...Steve Perry was a VERY IMPORTANT part of Journey!!! Of course Journey
still exists, thinking that it will ever be what it was w/Perry is a stretch, I know you hate to hear that!!
Except that Perry would have been nothing without Journey and Herbys awesome management skills.
Let go of the "Open Arms" memories and the soiling of your panties and take a look at the big picture sometime.
brywool wrote:Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! That douche Schon has been milking every fucking cent out of exploiting the name "Journey" as long as I can remember.
IT'S NEAL'S BAND. That's what he's supposed to do. I don't get the animosity towards Neal and Journey. He used tapes with an ailing singer. He was in a bind and had dates that he committed to. So what? I'm sure Neal regrets that. It's in the past. He's brought the band back to where it should be and it's kicking ass- yet peeps are still pissing and moaning about it, EVEN THOUGH THIS BAND KICKS ASS. Why the anti-Neal sentiment? Perry wouldn't perform, so he moved on. Augeri couldn't do it, so they moved on. JSS was never the right fit so they moved on. I totally get that. That's what you do with bands. If the chemistry ain't right, you tweak it till it is and now, it is.
Why are people so anti Neal?
steveo777 wrote:
Tribute bands don't have original members of the original band playing in them. 3 out of 5 of the heyday players are still playing.
steveo777 wrote: And, breaking news....Steve Perry was not Journey
steveo777 wrote: You could have called Journey a tribute band when Fleischman left
steveo777 wrote: I think calling Journey a tribute band is a stretch.
brywool wrote:Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! That douche Schon has been milking every fucking cent out of exploiting the name "Journey" as long as I can remember.
IT'S NEAL'S BAND. That's what he's supposed to do. I don't get the animosity towards Neal and Journey. He used tapes with an ailing singer. He was in a bind and had dates that he committed to. So what? I'm sure Neal regrets that. It's in the past. He's brought the band back to where it should be and it's kicking ass- yet peeps are still pissing and moaning about it, EVEN THOUGH THIS BAND KICKS ASS. Why the anti-Neal sentiment? Perry wouldn't perform, so he moved on. Augeri couldn't do it, so they moved on. JSS was never the right fit so they moved on. I totally get that. That's what you do with bands. If the chemistry ain't right, you tweak it till it is and now, it is.
Why are people so anti Neal?
Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Except that Journey was nothing when Fleischman left, they became something w/Perry!!!
Breaking News...Steve Perry was a VERY IMPORTANT part of Journey!!! Of course Journey
still exists, thinking that it will ever be what it was w/Perry is a stretch, I know you hate to hear that!!
Except that Perry would have been nothing without Journey and Herbys awesome management skills.
Let go of the "Open Arms" memories and the soiling of your panties and take a look at the big picture sometime.
Michigan Girl wrote:Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Except that Journey was nothing when Fleischman left, they became something w/Perry!!!
Breaking News...Steve Perry was a VERY IMPORTANT part of Journey!!! Of course Journey
still exists, thinking that it will ever be what it was w/Perry is a stretch, I know you hate to hear that!!
Except that Perry would have been nothing without Journey and Herbys awesome management skills.
Let go of the "Open Arms" memories and the soiling of your panties and take a look at the big picture sometime.
Don't dismiss Perry in the Big Pic...Idiot!!!
Ligzig wrote:brywool wrote:Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! That douche Schon has been milking every fucking cent out of exploiting the name "Journey" as long as I can remember.
IT'S NEAL'S BAND. That's what he's supposed to do. I don't get the animosity towards Neal and Journey. He used tapes with an ailing singer. He was in a bind and had dates that he committed to. So what? I'm sure Neal regrets that. It's in the past. He's brought the band back to where it should be and it's kicking ass- yet peeps are still pissing and moaning about it, EVEN THOUGH THIS BAND KICKS ASS. Why the anti-Neal sentiment? Perry wouldn't perform, so he moved on. Augeri couldn't do it, so they moved on. JSS was never the right fit so they moved on. I totally get that. That's what you do with bands. If the chemistry ain't right, you tweak it till it is and now, it is.
Why are people so anti Neal?
"Now Steve, show me on the dolly where Neal touched you?"
Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Ligzig wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:Except that Journey was nothing when Fleischman left, they became something w/Perry!!!
Breaking News...Steve Perry was a VERY IMPORTANT part of Journey!!! Of course Journey
still exists, thinking that it will ever be what it was w/Perry is a stretch, I know you hate to hear that!!
Except that Perry would have been nothing without Journey and Herbys awesome management skills.
Let go of the "Open Arms" memories and the soiling of your panties and take a look at the big picture sometime.
Don't dismiss Perry in the Big Pic...Idiot!!!
Don't dismiss Journey in the big pic...idiot!!!
Chubby321 wrote:brywool wrote:Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! That douche Schon has been milking every fucking cent out of exploiting the name "Journey" as long as I can remember.
IT'S NEAL'S BAND. That's what he's supposed to do. I don't get the animosity towards Neal and Journey. He used tapes with an ailing singer. He was in a bind and had dates that he committed to. So what? I'm sure Neal regrets that. It's in the past. He's brought the band back to where it should be and it's kicking ass- yet peeps are still pissing and moaning about it, EVEN THOUGH THIS BAND KICKS ASS. Why the anti-Neal sentiment? Perry wouldn't perform, so he moved on. Augeri couldn't do it, so they moved on. JSS was never the right fit so they moved on. I totally get that. That's what you do with bands. If the chemistry ain't right, you tweak it till it is and now, it is.
Why are people so anti Neal?
Maybe because he decided to move on without Perry.
brywool wrote:Ligzig wrote:brywool wrote:Enigma869 wrote:strangegrey wrote:Neal isn't protecting Journey...he's fucking exploiting it.
Ding, ding, ding...we have a winner! That douche Schon has been milking every fucking cent out of exploiting the name "Journey" as long as I can remember.
IT'S NEAL'S BAND. That's what he's supposed to do. I don't get the animosity towards Neal and Journey. He used tapes with an ailing singer. He was in a bind and had dates that he committed to. So what? I'm sure Neal regrets that. It's in the past. He's brought the band back to where it should be and it's kicking ass- yet peeps are still pissing and moaning about it, EVEN THOUGH THIS BAND KICKS ASS. Why the anti-Neal sentiment? Perry wouldn't perform, so he moved on. Augeri couldn't do it, so they moved on. JSS was never the right fit so they moved on. I totally get that. That's what you do with bands. If the chemistry ain't right, you tweak it till it is and now, it is.
Why are people so anti Neal?
"Now Steve, show me on the dolly where Neal touched you?"
???
Ligzig wrote:I really hope this next record changes things drastically. They have a singer who can do whatever they could want...please don't sing cheese ball ballads and use too many whoa oo ohs.
(yeah right)
P.S Hugo is a creepy bastard.
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