Neal Schon vs Hugo & Evolution tribute Band

[steveo777]

why pick on a tribute band doing nothing wrong now (EVOLUTION - HUGO)

Because maybe you don't see the false advertising aspect of it? You cannot display Journey's name with prominence, while displaying a likeness to the Journey scarab then minimizing the print which indicates that you are a Journey tribute band. Noooooo, nothing wrong with that at all. That's where the beef was born, not the fact that they are a Journey tribute band doing what tribute bands do. So Neal calls them on it and he is out of line? Now that's just whacked.

The point is that EVOLUTION doent not use anything in advertising ,we don't use scarabs, wings or any like it on our website or in posters or live shows... as of may there is no evidence on our website or a show .. you might se an ol pic from now and then ,,,, lokk at our website site, poster and live show ,, you will find nothing ,, we have our own art work posters and stage show ...


we don't even use journey in our website domain
http://www.evolutionttheband.com

now here is our post what is the problem

Then where is this talk about flyers and posters coming from?

[YoungJRNY]

I just want to clear up one thing....you may not consider me a true fan, but this year alone I attended the following concerts:


Rockford - paid for tix and drove more than 2 1/2 to the venue to, 21/2 hours from
Indiana - paid for tix and drove 6 hours to, 6 hours from
Borgata - paid for 2 days tix + hotel + plane

And no doubt, so did thousands of screaming fans who instantly stopped screaming when anything that wasn't DSB, Faithfully, Open Arms, and Anyway You Want It was being played. Doesn't make them diehard fans just because they went. You're dedicated in a way, but to sit here and worship a new member who has rode this band's coattails to success while discounting and disrespecting half their back catalogue is more than a little disingenuous, regardless of how many shows you go to or how much money you spend on the band.

I agree. Every concert I went to I had jeering looks when songs like Never Walk Away, Change for the Better, and Wildest Dreams came on, while I was rockin' out hardcore. I turned to this chick next to me and said "I would love for them to bust out Higher Place, Remember Me or Rubicon.. " and she looked at me like I was some kind of pedophile. Casual fans will never get Hardcore fans like us when it comes to the catalog like that. They are there to see the dirty dozen first and foremost. Not taking anything away from Chubby, but without Arnel Pineda, I feel Chubby wouldn't be along for the ride, but there isn't nothing WRONG with that. That's where Journey succeeds in bringing new fans to the fanbase. Point-Journey, and Point-Chubby.

Yeah, it's great she (I think?) is on board now, but its jarring to see the Arnel worship juxtaposed with the disrespect for so much great music that this band created in its heyday. As it is now, going by her remarks here, I'm not so sure Chubby would be very different from the people you saw at your concert, just in a different fashion (i.e. knowing the Arnel stuff).

You're right. I haven't been reading much but looking back at Chubby's post's, the thing that got me was when she said "I will not buy Infinity of TBF " if remember correctly. That's a shame since to understand the whole Journey experience and why Arnel is there in the first place is to know the backstory of the band and also why the song's are sung today and why Neal chose Arnel in the first place. I love Arnel to death, he is awesome, sincere, and is just an all around breath of fresh air from top to bottom. Too bad his fanbase doesn't understand the true meaning on why he was chosen to front this band. I am without doubt, an Arnel fan and I believe he is the best man to take the stage night in and night out.. but I am Journey through and through when it comes down to it, and to not knowledge their history is jab to all hardcore and faithful fans.

[Michigan Girl]

why pick on a tribute band doing nothing wrong now (EVOLUTION - HUGO)

Because maybe you don't see the false advertising aspect of it? You cannot display Journey's name with prominence, while displaying a likeness to the Journey scarab then minimizing the print which indicates that you are a Journey tribute band. Noooooo, nothing wrong with that at all. That's where the beef was born, not the fact that they are a Journey tribute band doing what tribute bands do. So Neal calls them on it and he is out of line? Now that's just whacked.

The point is that EVOLUTION doent not use anything in advertising ,we don't use scarabs, wings or any like it on our website or in posters or live shows... as of may there is no evidence on our website or a show .. you might se an ol pic from now and then ,,,, lokk at our website site, poster and live show ,, you will find nothing ,, we have our own art work posters and stage show ...


we don't even use journey in our website domain
http://www.evolutionttheband.com

now here is our post what is the problem

Hmmmm, if this is the case then it's already been stated, You're a threat..shame on you!!!

[larryfromnextdoor]

(EVOLUTION - HUGO)

dude.. good to hear from you .. but we HAVE to get you a tougher screen name..

[JasonD]

I just want to clear up one thing....you may not consider me a true fan, but this year alone I attended the following concerts:


Rockford - paid for tix and drove more than 2 1/2 to the venue to, 21/2 hours from
Indiana - paid for tix and drove 6 hours to, 6 hours from
Borgata - paid for 2 days tix + hotel + plane

Chubby, take my hand and let me pull you out of the quicksand, pal.

This too shall pass; stop trying to dig out for today.

Steve-O & Chubby
Sitting In A Tree
K-I-S-S-

..... sorry. That was childish.

Chubby, you're alright. I hope you weren't offended by anything I wrote. My gripe was not with you. My gripe was with the fans who feel that Perry's ghost should appear everywhere's there's a Journey conversation.

[mdaemon]

You're right. I haven't been reading much but looking back at Chubby's post's, the thing that got me was when she said "I will not buy Evolution of TBF " if remember correctly. That's a shame since to understand the whole Journey experience and why Arnel is there in the first place is to know the backstory of the band and also why the song's are sung today and why Neal chose Arnel in the first place. I love Arnel to death, he is awesome, sincere, and is just an all around breath of fresh air from top to bottom. Too bad his fanbase doesn't understand the true meaning on why he was chosen to front this band. I am without doubt, an Arnel fan and I believe he is the best man to take the stage night in and night out.. but I am Journey through and through when it comes down to it.

That's a sweeping conclusion based on the actions of a handful few.

[mdaemon]

I just want to clear up one thing....you may not consider me a true fan, but this year alone I attended the following concerts:


Rockford - paid for tix and drove more than 2 1/2 to the venue to, 21/2 hours from
Indiana - paid for tix and drove 6 hours to, 6 hours from
Borgata - paid for 2 days tix + hotel + plane

Chubby, take my hand and let me pull you out of the quicksand, pal.

This too shall pass; stop trying to dig out for today.

Steve-O & Chubby
Sitting In A Tree
K-I-S-S-

..... sorry. That was childish.

Chubby, you're alright. I hope you weren't offended by anything I wrote. My gripe was not with you. My gripe was with the fans who feel that Perry's ghost should appear everywhere's there's a Journey conversation.

stevew-2 & Jason
Sitting In a Tree
B-L-O-

.....sorry. That was childish.

[Michigan Girl]

I just want to clear up one thing....you may not consider me a true fan, but this year alone I attended the following concerts:


Rockford - paid for tix and drove more than 2 1/2 to the venue to, 21/2 hours from
Indiana - paid for tix and drove 6 hours to, 6 hours from
Borgata - paid for 2 days tix + hotel + plane

Chubby, take my hand and let me pull you out of the quicksand, pal.

This too shall pass; stop trying to dig out for today.

Steve-O & Chubby
Sitting In A Tree
K-I-S-S-

..... sorry. That was childish.

Chubby, you're alright. I hope you weren't offended by anything I wrote. My gripe was not with you. My gripe was with the fans who feel that Perry's ghost should appear everywhere's there's a Journey conversation.

stevew-2 & Jason
Sitting In a Tree
B-L-O-

.....sorry. That was childish.

lmao!!!

[JasonD]

I just want to clear up one thing....you may not consider me a true fan, but this year alone I attended the following concerts:


Rockford - paid for tix and drove more than 2 1/2 to the venue to, 21/2 hours from
Indiana - paid for tix and drove 6 hours to, 6 hours from
Borgata - paid for 2 days tix + hotel + plane

Chubby, take my hand and let me pull you out of the quicksand, pal.

This too shall pass; stop trying to dig out for today.

Steve-O & Chubby
Sitting In A Tree
K-I-S-S-

..... sorry. That was childish.

Chubby, you're alright. I hope you weren't offended by anything I wrote. My gripe was not with you. My gripe was with the fans who feel that Perry's ghost should appear everywhere's there's a Journey conversation.

stevew-2 & Jason
Sitting In a Tree
B-L-O-

.....sorry. That was childish.

Alright. I deserve that.

Maybe Rhi will gimme some ice for that burn.

[steveo777]

I just want to clear up one thing....you may not consider me a true fan, but this year alone I attended the following concerts:


Rockford - paid for tix and drove more than 2 1/2 to the venue to, 21/2 hours from
Indiana - paid for tix and drove 6 hours to, 6 hours from
Borgata - paid for 2 days tix + hotel + plane

Chubby, take my hand and let me pull you out of the quicksand, pal.

This too shall pass; stop trying to dig out for today.

Steve-O & Chubby
Sitting In A Tree
K-I-S-S-

..... sorry. That was childish.

Chubby, you're alright. I hope you weren't offended by anything I wrote. My gripe was not with you. My gripe was with the fans who feel that Perry's ghost should appear everywhere's there's a Journey conversation.

stevew-2 & Jason
Sitting In a Tree
B-L-O-

.....sorry. That was childish.

Alright. I deserve that.

Maybe Rhi will gimme some ice for that burn.

Or Portland will give you a shot in one of your ass cheeks.

[steveperryfan]

why pick on a tribute band doing nothing wrong now (EVOLUTION - HUGO)

Because maybe you don't see the false advertising aspect of it? You cannot display Journey's name with prominence, while displaying a likeness to the Journey scarab then minimizing the print which indicates that you are a Journey tribute band. Noooooo, nothing wrong with that at all. That's where the beef was born, not the fact that they are a Journey tribute band doing what tribute bands do. So Neal calls them on it and he is out of line? Now that's just whacked.

The point is that EVOLUTION doent not use anything in advertising ,we don't use scarabs, wings or any like it on our website or in posters or live shows... as of may there is no evidence on our website or a show .. you might se an ol pic from now and then ,,,, lokk at our website site, poster and live show ,, you will find nothing ,, we have our own art work posters and stage show ...


we don't even use journey in our website domain
http://www.evolutionttheband.com

now here is our post what is the problem

Hmmmm, if this is the case then it's already been stated, You're a threat..shame on you!!!

thank you finally someone hears me .. i am not saying we are the best .... all i am saying ,, we must be a threat to him somehow and we know it.. i personally think we urk him some how .... ,, that is why we have to do everything legal these days ,, i know there are people waiting for us to doing some on the line of an infringment.. but we will not ,,

[larryfromnextdoor]

thank you finally someone hears me .. i am not saying we are the best .... all i am saying ,, we must be a threat to him somehow and we know it.. i personally think we urk him some how .... ,, that is why we have to do everything legal these days ,, i know there are people waiting for us to doing some on the line of an infringment.. but we will not ,,

i dig your writing style.. BIG thumbs up ..

[steveperryfan]

why pick on a tribute band doing nothing wrong now (EVOLUTION - HUGO)

Because maybe you don't see the false advertising aspect of it? You cannot display Journey's name with prominence, while displaying a likeness to the Journey scarab then minimizing the print which indicates that you are a Journey tribute band. Noooooo, nothing wrong with that at all. That's where the beef was born, not the fact that they are a Journey tribute band doing what tribute bands do. So Neal calls them on it and he is out of line? Now that's just whacked.

The point is that EVOLUTION doent not use anything in advertising ,we don't use scarabs, wings or any like it on our website or in posters or live shows... as of may there is no evidence on our website or a show .. you might se an ol pic from now and then ,,,, lokk at our website site, poster and live show ,, you will find nothing ,, we have our own art work posters and stage show ...


we don't even use journey in our website domain
http://www.evolutiontheband.com

now here is our post what is the problem

Then where is this talk about flyers and posters coming from?

here is our poster


thank you again ....there were old posters a year ago he had a problem with so we ditched them a long time ago ,,,, now he goes on a rant after we changed our stuff to make them happy... hugo did a show in hawaii,, this had nothing to do with EVOLUTION .... the promoter there used a poster an misquoted ,, that was another band ...

this is all i can say ,,, this is EVOLUTIONS evidence you be the judge of it ,,, THANKS


this is our poster ,, it is all bull what neal is going on about with us .. let him take it out on others..

[strangegrey]

Chubby, I have never come into a thread and openly disagreed with you....until now. I've considered you a friend, but friends sometimes have to be honest with each other and call each other on their bullshit. While I admire your enthusiam for Arnel and Journey, saying your fanhood just began with Arnel is to completely disrespect the musical legacy (god I hate having to keep using that word) and the bandmembers. The foundation that got Arnel this job was layed down long ago. Were it not for each previous member of Journey making their contribution to this timeless catalog of music, Arnel would be doing something else today, I promise you. For other Pinoys who share the same attitude, again they are being disrepectful to the classic band and the current members as well. I don't know if they see it that way, but some of us non Pinoys sure take it that way. Pinoy pride is ok...so is American pride, but when misplaced so blatantly, it actually runs some fans off. Some of them are blind to a Journey before Arnel. They'd better understand that just as quickly as Arnel was hired, he could be returned back to where he was and there would still be a Journey. What would those who blame Journeys success on Arnel say then? I'd suggest that you take the time to develope yourself historically, so you're not running around posting, only understanding 10% of the big picture. Now that said, there is no debate for you to win here. You simply have too little knowlege and no case whatsoever. Why don't you try being a Journey fan for awhile.....all of it.

I'm one of Arnel's biggest fans, but I've always been one of Journey's biggest fans first.

Stevo, Shit, I hate to use the word respect...again...
But you certainly earned a boatload with me on this post. This is what it's all about. A one in a million post.

So, Neal is not only protecting his work but the work of the artists the band has employed as well.....and protecting the bands investment in the consigned artwork which they've probably paid out quite a bit for over the years.

You do realize, of course, that the band has a recent history of stiffing its artists? IIRC, the guy who did the generations cover has yet to be paid in full for his work. It took me nearly an act of blackmail to get the band to pay me for constructing the online review system on its website....a system they used from pre-arrival straight through to generations!!!

So while, I understand your post and it's intent, you need to realize that you're singing out of your ass. Again, this goes back to a case of two thieves breaking into a museum and one calls the cops on the other, because the other got to the priceless art first.

Hmmmm, if this is the case then it's already been stated, You're a threat..shame on you!!!

Way to go MG!! That's the dirty little secret here.
And...no, I wont drag Hugo into this...(who's a damn good guy, so fuck all of you who just want to fight it out about him )

But the fact remains is that the ONLY thing that seperates Journey (with Arnel singing) and Evolution (with Hugo singing) is Adam, Lance and Les. The rest of the band is no more or less a tribute band than the real thing....

Neal needs to differentiate that. It's an agressive protection of his product/brand.....And that's a problem for any band out there that hires a singer culled from You Tube, a cover band or a tribute band. Not just Journey. What seperates Boston from a tribute act? What seperates Yes from a tribute act? What seperates Styx from one?

Seriously.....you take integral roles in these bands and replace them with shift workers from Lowes and Home Depot....and you're going to get people that find the brand differentiation hard to sort out...


Neal fucked up with Evolution. He would have been far better off if he shut the fuck up and tried to handle this quietly...but by making a case about it, he comes off looking like a crybaby bitch like Lars Ulrich....

There must be something in the water in San Francisco....

[Enigma869]

It's as if those people feel that Schon owes Perry something unattainable.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you that I feel that Schon owes Perry an ounce of respect and gratitude, and he has never displayed ANY of either when it comes to Perry!

I feel as if he's making restitution by way of royalties Perry receives.

Huh?? You do realize that Perry is responsible for the royalites that he receives, correct? Giving Schon the credit for it is moronic. I'm fairly certain that if you look at Journey's back catalog, Perry has more songwriting credits than Schon has, and probably by a lot! Giving Schon the credit for royalties that Perry earned is fucking abdurd!

People say that without Perry, Journey wouldn't have gone anywhere. That MAY be true. We'll never know.

As far as I'm concerned, the whole "We'll never know" argument about whether Journey would have been successful without Perry doesn't work for one VERY important reason....As many point out here on a daily basis..."There was a Journey before Perry". The reality is that the name "Journey" was around for many years before Perry ever came along and they simply weren't remotely successful and were about to be dropped by their record label. I know it disappoints some, but you can't re-write history! While I will never attribute all of Journey's success to Perry, I do attribute a huge portion of it to his voice. They had a chance to be successful without him, and they weren't! Cain was enormously instrumental in the success of Journey, due to his immense songwriting talents. That still doesn't change the fact that "Journey" was put on the map before Cain got there, and immediately after one key ingredient was changed...Perry being added!

[Author2]

OMG--- I can't believe some of you are still busting a vein over this. I don't have anything against the man personally, but dude hasn't done anything in eons worth arguing about & the fact that the downstairs forum looks like tumbleweeds ..... .... only serves to support my argument.

When Perry releases his new CD & *IF* it blows away the competition, I'll gladly give the man praise where praise is due. Till then, hats off to Schon for keeping the Journey empire booming.

Really. Are you saying that Perry's contributions to Journey means nothing and are not deserving of praise unless he comes out of retirement and releases a CD that "blows away the competition?"

[slucero]

I'm not trying to take away from Perry what he rightfully deserves. I know he was a HUGE contributing factor in Journey's success. Still, some of the comments I've read on this board have lead me to believe that certain people here feel as if Neal & company are supposed to live FOREVER in Perry's debt, FOREVER in Perry's shadow & so on. It's as if those people feel that Schon owes Perry something unattainable. I just don't see it that way. I feel as if he's paid his "Perry dues" & that he is still making restitution by way of royalties Perry receives. I don't want to get into a semantics argument regarding Rolie's contribution to the band; however, in addition to Rolie's contribution, Journey was Schon's baby from the onset. Perry came in from the outside. Together they made the band a success along with the efforts of Cain & others. It wasn't a single-handed maneuver. People say that without Perry, Journey wouldn't have gone anywhere. That MAY be true. We'll never know. Still, one could look at the flipside of that statement & say that without Journey, Perry might have become the next Frank Perdue. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with earning an honest living. Still, just trying to keep things in perspective.

Hmmm, you would be wrong and you have pretty much stated, yet again, things we all know!!! Point being, this Journey thing is/was a TEAM Sport!!
Michael Jordan didn't win championships alone, yet you hear little of Scottie and co. (which is sad). The Bulls becamse HUGE when MJ
joined the team and they maintained that status pretty much throughout his reign!!! Do you hear much about the Bulls today?!?!?
Not alotta, but when you do you will most assuredly hear Michael Jordan's name at some point in the conversation. His name will always be synonymous with the Bulls as will Perry's w/Journey.
Sometimes one member of a team makes more of an impact on us than others...and not everyone is in agreement
as to whom impacted them the most!! For the vast majority, it's Perry/Jordan and others prefer Schon/Pippen!!
The Fact remains, they didn't make their marks in the world of music/sports without their teammates and we already know this!!!

+100

[JasonD]

It's as if those people feel that Schon owes Perry something unattainable.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you that I feel that Schon owes Perry an ounce of respect and gratitude, and he has never displayed ANY of either when it comes to Perry!

You can’t really mean that. What about at the WOF ceremony? Schon was respectful there, even invited Perry to sing at the House Of Blues --- & Perry dissed ‘em.

I feel as if he's making restitution by way of royalties Perry receives.

Huh?? You do realize that Perry is responsible for the royalites that he receives, correct? Giving Schon the credit for it is moronic. I'm fairly certain that if you look at Journey's back catalog, Perry has more songwriting credits than Schon has, and probably by a lot! Giving Schon the credit for royalties that Perry earned is fucking abdurd!

Where did you read I was giving Schon credit for the royalties Perry earned? I never said Perry didn’t deserve to be compensated. If I total your car & I didn't have insurance, I would pay you in installments for what you deserve: compensation for your car. That’s what Schon is doing. As for Perry having more songwriting credits, I don't understand your point. Schon contributed more than Perry when it came to composing the music, so why are we splitting hairs?

People say that without Perry, Journey wouldn't have gone anywhere. That MAY be true. We'll never know.

As far as I'm concerned, the whole "We'll never know" argument about whether Journey would have been successful without Perry doesn't work for one VERY important reason....As many point out here on a daily basis..."There was a Journey before Perry". The reality is that the name "Journey" was around for many years before Perry ever came along and they simply weren't remotely successful and were about to be dropped by their record label. I know it disappoints some, but you can't re-write history! While I will never attribute all of Journey's success to Perry, I do attribute a huge portion of it to his voice. They had a chance to be successful without him, and they weren't! Cain was enormously instrumental in the success of Journey, due to his immense songwriting talents. That still doesn't change the fact that "Journey" was put on the map before Cain got there, and immediately after one key ingredient was changed...Perry being added!

Oh for goodness sake!!! Journey formed in '73. Perry was signed in '77. Show me a band that makes it to stardom in 4 short years & I’ll show you a band that has a famous parent pulling some strings. Journey was in its infancy when Perry came on board. It’s not as if the band had been around for 15 or 20 years when along came Perry & saved the day. Why are you so quick to write ‘em off without the likes of meeting Perry? Who are you to say they wouldn’t have made it given a few more years to audition with other singers? Like I said, I don’t hate Steve Perry. I think he was an amazing talent & may still be for all I know. Nevertheless, I just don’t feel as if every Journey conversation should be one-upped by his ghost.

~~~~~~
Hypothetical situation: You & your high school sweetheart marry shortly after graduation. You are unemployed. Your wife works two jobs: one as a waitress & the other as a secretary so that you can go to school. Several years later you get your PhD. You land a great job, make lots of money, purchase a beautiful home & then your wife decides to leave you. You wait several years, but she doesn’t return. Eventually, you move on. You get remarried. Tell me, how long should you owe your first wife for the success you wouldn’t have achieved if it hadn’t been for her?

[Don]

I believe Perry has writing credits on 17 of Journey's 18 Top 40 hits, Cain 15 and Schon 12.

[Author2]

I'm not trying to take away from Perry what he rightfully deserves. I know he was a HUGE contributing factor in Journey's success. Still, some of the comments I've read on this board have lead me to believe that certain people here feel as if Neal & company are supposed to live FOREVER in Perry's debt, FOREVER in Perry's shadow & so on. It's as if those people feel that Schon owes Perry something unattainable. I just don't see it that way. I feel as if he's paid his "Perry dues" & that he is still making restitution by way of royalties Perry receives. I don't want to get into a semantics argument regarding Rolie's contribution to the band; however, in addition to Rolie's contribution, Journey was Schon's baby from the onset. Perry came in from the outside. Together they made the band a success along with the efforts of Cain & others. It wasn't a single-handed maneuver. People say that without Perry, Journey wouldn't have gone anywhere. That MAY be true. We'll never know. Still, one could look at the flipside of that statement & say that without Journey, Perry might have become the next Frank Perdue. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with earning an honest living. Just trying to keep things in perspective.

What would have happened if the record company had actually cut loose Journey or what would have happened if no auto accident and Perry and his band had been signed.

[Michigan Girl]

I believe Perry has writing credits on 17 of Journey's 18 Top 40 hits, Cain 15 and Schon 12.

Hypothetically, Steve Perry never joined the band...so these number's are irrelevant!!

Hey, AUTHOR2.....welcome aboard!!!

[portland]

I believe Perry has writing credits on 17 of Journey's 18 Top 40 hits, Cain 15 and Schon 12.

Hypothetically, Steve Perry never joined the band...so these number's are irrelevant!!

Hey, AUTHOR2.....welcome aboard!!!

YES Agreed....Author2....welcome to the party!!

[portland]

I just want to clear up one thing....you may not consider me a true fan, but this year alone I attended the following concerts:


Rockford - paid for tix and drove more than 2 1/2 to the venue to, 21/2 hours from
Indiana - paid for tix and drove 6 hours to, 6 hours from
Borgata - paid for 2 days tix + hotel + plane

Chubby, take my hand and let me pull you out of the quicksand, pal.

This too shall pass; stop trying to dig out for today.

Steve-O & Chubby
Sitting In A Tree
K-I-S-S-

..... sorry. That was childish.

Chubby, you're alright. I hope you weren't offended by anything I wrote. My gripe was not with you. My gripe was with the fans who feel that Perry's ghost should appear everywhere's there's a Journey conversation.

stevew-2 & Jason
Sitting In a Tree
B-L-O-

.....sorry. That was childish.

Alright. I deserve that.

Maybe Rhi will gimme some ice for that burn.

Or Portland will give you a shot in one of your ass cheeks.

Nope the way he is posting he can suffer!!!!

[perryswoman]

Here's Neal's comments:

I am steamed ... as far as I'm concerned it is NOT the highest form of flattery. Total Cheese ... and a rip off! F--k these guys and there management.

I don"t approve any of them... And completely disapprove of there very misleading flyers-posters.... I hate the fact that ( there) management watches were we are playing or were we are going to be and then books them accordingly . Need all your help to put out the word... Thanks Neal

The fact that these guys in particular use our art -work and Hugo, the fake Perry look a like is very deliberately trying to fool people into believing Perry is back with us.... Wrong and way tacky .....

Don't get me wrong but I do not have anything against tribute bands... but this is just F--king Bull Shit... at it best . Total RIP OFF!!!

Not a chance buddy...

That's what I'm saying John.... they are the worst conniving M-Fu--ers ever...

^^ (a reply to: Check them out: http://www.keytarmusic.com/escape.htm
These freaks even have a full engineering page complete with Backline, Input List and Stage Plot. How fuc*in ridiculous is that??
We love you Neal, and Arnel is our guy, most loved in Hawaii. No worries Brah, no body cares to see that other band anyway.)

Best thing to do is boycott and call them on it personally. Thanks 4 all the support... N

I am talking about the band that Hugo is in... sorry if I'm wrong..

Sorry but I don't condone anything from Hugo... needs to do his own music period...


neal got some issues

Yeah - with people using the artwork and the name Journey inappropriately. And if it's true, he has every right to be pissed off. Being a tribute band is one thing. But if someone is using the Journey logo and misleading people like Neal claims - it is not acceptable. He has every right to want to protect what he has built with Journey.

Yea I agree too but let the attroneys handle it. The language although we all use it comes across as very unprofessional.

[perryswoman]

Judging by the interviews he gives, Neal is such a bitter little cuss. I wonder if Arnel has any more more of that pixie dust he used on Jon to make him a better person? Schon could definitely use a spoonful or two.

I agree and while Perry admits he wasn't the easiest to get along with can you imagine how those 2 banged there heads against each other. For a 54 year old man Schon needs to grow up and act like it. To me it's the same as him saying "FUCK HIM" to Perry. Just very unprofessional.

[steveperryfan]

it is funny that neal would think any tribute band would be competition

here are the pics from our stage show and our poster that was up before ,,, the images i guesstimed out so i am posting them another way .....

here is our proof of our poster and stage show ... now journey missleading here...




and look our own artwork ,,,,


what now neal has the power to tell bands he does not want bands to play there music ,,, sorry neal they are all public domain ,, deal with it ,,,,,tribute bands will not stop and go away

[perryswoman]

None of these tribute bands have an Asian singer. Perry's Ghost up on a advertising banner is the thing that has Neal's panties in a bunch here.

Tru Dat and they gonna be even more bunched up when Perry's cd comes out. He's gonna be slinging every cuss word in the book.

[Abitaman]

Personally I am not a fan of Evolution, never seen them and have only 1 boot of them, which the recording was ok.
BUT, I am a fan of Hugo's solo cds and his work in Open Skyz, Valetnine, and with Ramos. All of which are good.
My point is Hugo should introduce some of his songs in the Evolution sets have his cds for sale there too. Use Evolution has a launch pad to his music heard. His music is worth hearing, and for the most part better than Journey's cds Red 13, ROR, Trail, the first 3 and on par or slightly better or not quite there as Perry's first 3.
Neal needs to get over it, any one can see it is not Journey, the man needs to make more music with his current line up and move on.

[JasonD]

I believe Perry has writing credits on 17 of Journey's 18 Top 40 hits, Cain 15 and Schon 12.

Hypothetically, Steve Perry never joined the band...so these number's are irrelevant!!

Hey, AUTHOR2.....welcome aboard!!!

YES Agreed....Author2....welcome to the party!!

Yes, welcome young Author2. Welcome to my la-bor-a-tory. Now, to answer your question, “What would have happened if the record company had actually cut loose Journey or what would have happened if no auto accident and Perry and his band had been signed?” --- allow me to gaze into my crystal ball.






Easy now ..... easy. Ahhhhh, yes, it's gradually coming to me......


Neal & Gregg would have stayed with Fleischman for a couple more years & they would have found another record company. Gregg would have eventually taken over as lead singer being replaced on keyboards by Stevew2. The band would have had phenomenal success winning several Grammy Awards & contributing their collective talents to many major motion pictures.

Steve would have signed with Alien Project. The band would have had a rocky beginning until one day when Steve would have met & fell in love with Portland. They would have later married, had 2 beautiful children & Steve’s love for Portland would have been his inspiration for many Grammy-worthy releases. However, he would have shocked the music industry by pulling a "Marlon Brando" & walking away from his success, stating that he’d rather spend more time with his wife & children.

[Aaron]

Coming from the dude with the pink trimmed avatar, nice. Good to see you back bro.

(EVOLUTION - HUGO)

dude.. good to hear from you .. but we HAVE to get you a tougher screen name..