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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:56 am

Saint John wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:"In a statement sent to Oprah Show producers, Steve wishes the band well."

Steve Perry wrote:"Though we've gone our separate ways, I will be forever grateful for our time together…the music we created…and our faithful fans," he writes. "Continued success to all of you."



Hmm. That sounds ever so much nicer than "fuck him" doesn't it?

At least someone has some tact and decency in his public statements.


The guy stole years of peoples' careers and broke up lineups. There's nothing for him to be bitter about. Nobody did anything to him!! Your logic is severely fucked up. It's like a rapist wishing his victim "good luck with the rest of your life" and someone calling him classy! He raped their careers and took from them one of very few things that you can't get back...time.


You big grumpus!! :lol: He gave them those careers and success to start with when Herbie installed him as lead singer, he single-handedly wrote their first successful top 20 hit, and he led them into stardom. Without his presence they would HAVE no Journey to continue milking. Yes one might look at it as Perry bailing out, but one also might look at it as Journey bailing out on him with such an ultimatum as "get your goofy ass back here or we replace you".

And by accounts from both sides, he never told them "don't replace me" nor did he ever say "don't move on" - as the story goes, all he said was don't use the name, as in, "the name WE made". Because like it or not, he was a GIANT part of the name Journey becoming something. Maybe he didn't start the band or give it the name, but he made it *A* name.

These are facts. 8)
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Postby Babyblue » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:14 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:"In a statement sent to Oprah Show producers, Steve wishes the band well."

Steve Perry wrote:"Though we've gone our separate ways, I will be forever grateful for our time together…the music we created…and our faithful fans," he writes. "Continued success to all of you."



Hmm. That sounds ever so much nicer than "fuck him" doesn't it?

At least someone has some tact and decency in his public statements.


The guy stole years of peoples' careers and broke up lineups. There's nothing for him to be bitter about. Nobody did anything to him!! Your logic is severely fucked up. It's like a rapist wishing his victim "good luck with the rest of your life" and someone calling him classy! He raped their careers and took from them one of very few things that you can't get back...time.


You big grumpus!! :lol: He gave them those careers and success to start with when Herbie installed him as lead singer, he single-handedly wrote their first successful top 20 hit, and he led them into stardom. Without his presence they would HAVE no Journey to continue milking. Yes one might look at it as Perry bailing out, but one also might look at it as Journey bailing out on him with such an ultimatum as "get your goofy ass back here or we replace you".

And by accounts from both sides, he never told them "don't replace me" nor did he ever say "don't move on" - as the story goes, all he said was don't use the name, as in, "the name WE made". Because like it or not, he was a GIANT part of the name Journey becoming something. Maybe he didn't start the band or give it the name, but he made it *A* name.

These are facts. 8)


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Postby Deb » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:20 pm

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Saint John wrote:The guy stole years of peoples' careers and broke up lineups. There's nothing for him to be bitter about. Nobody did anything to him!! Your logic is severely fucked up. It's like a rapist wishing his victim "good luck with the rest of your life" and someone calling him classy! He raped their careers and took from them one of very few things that you can't get back...time.


Honestly, this is a bit of a melodramatic response. He didn't ruin anyone's life. He fucked up a few times, yes, and sometimes he seriously fucked up, but that doesn't make him the devil incarnate. Not that he's an angel either... like so many people say, he's only human, just like the rest of them. Everyone in the band has their faults and weaknesses. We just see them more often and perhaps in a magnified light because they're in the public eye (even when they're trying not to be, in some cases).


Ya think?! Dan, seriously?! Comparing Perry leaving Journey to rape? Might be time to go back on the meds Dan? :shock:
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Postby Lula » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:29 pm

perry is good people.
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:43 pm

Lula wrote:perry is good people.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:21 pm

Steve makes me a better person. :wink:
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:25 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Steve makes me a better person. :wink:


:shock: you complete me... :shock:
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Postby Author2 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:45 pm

Saint John wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:"In a statement sent to Oprah Show producers, Steve wishes the band well."

Steve Perry wrote:"Though we've gone our separate ways, I will be forever grateful for our time together…the music we created…and our faithful fans," he writes. "Continued success to all of you."



Hmm. That sounds ever so much nicer than "fuck him" doesn't it?

At least someone has some tact and decency in his public statements.


The guy stole years of peoples' careers and broke up lineups. There's nothing for him to be bitter about. Nobody did anything to him!! Your logic is severely fucked up. It's like a rapist wishing his victim "good luck with the rest of your life" and someone calling him classy! He raped their careers and took from them one of very few things that you can't get back...time.


Does that mean all those shows did not hurt his voice and he has/will get all of it back? I think he meant what he said for he did not lip it or mimic it.
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Postby Lula » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:54 pm

good night steve perry; you're a good man.
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Postby SteveForever » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:05 pm

Lula wrote:good night steve perry; you're a good man.


I've said this every night as I lay down since 1981 :)
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Postby larryfromnextdoor » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:24 pm

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Lula wrote:good night steve perry; you're a good man.


I've said this every night as I lay down since 1981 :)


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Postby Saint John » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:33 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:"In a statement sent to Oprah Show producers, Steve wishes the band well."

Steve Perry wrote:"Though we've gone our separate ways, I will be forever grateful for our time together…the music we created…and our faithful fans," he writes. "Continued success to all of you."



Hmm. That sounds ever so much nicer than "fuck him" doesn't it?

At least someone has some tact and decency in his public statements.


The guy stole years of peoples' careers and broke up lineups. There's nothing for him to be bitter about. Nobody did anything to him!! Your logic is severely fucked up. It's like a rapist wishing his victim "good luck with the rest of your life" and someone calling him classy! He raped their careers and took from them one of very few things that you can't get back...time.


You big grumpus!! :lol: He gave them those careers and success to start with when Herbie installed him as lead singer, he single-handedly wrote their first successful top 20 hit, and he led them into stardom. Without his presence they would HAVE no Journey to continue milking. Yes one might look at it as Perry bailing out, but one also might look at it as Journey bailing out on him with such an ultimatum as "get your goofy ass back here or we replace you".

And by accounts from both sides, he never told them "don't replace me" nor did he ever say "don't move on" - as the story goes, all he said was don't use the name, as in, "the name WE made". Because like it or not, he was a GIANT part of the name Journey becoming something. Maybe he didn't start the band or give it the name, but he made it *A* name.

These are facts. 8)


The name Journey encompasses much more than one man, and that's why they're able to still make money and perform all of the old songs. Perry's statement you referred to is an example of a selfish person not being able to cope with the band moving on without him.
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Postby JasonD » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:41 pm

Lately I've been agreeing with everything Saint John posts. Pretty soon I won't even have to write anything. I'll just type, "Yeah, what HE said" & then I'll point to the post above. ^^^^ :)
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Postby brywool » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:42 pm

I wish he'd quit saying "Faithful Fans". Sounds insincere when he uses it in every single press release. Or maybe put a (TM) after it....
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby brywool » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:43 pm

JasonD wrote:Lately I've been agreeing with everything Saint John posts. Pretty soon I won't even have to write anything. I'll just type, "Yeah, what HE said" & then I'll point to the post above. ^^^^ :)


Dan's a smart dude AND he got me front row tickets to a Journey show. I owe him my life...

By the way- Perry got a LOT of Oprah time today. He should be thankful for that. How many other Kats can sit home for ten years, not produce anything new AND still get on Opie? Not a slam on Perry, just sayin'
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:46 pm

JasonD wrote:Lately I've been agreeing with everything Saint John posts. Pretty soon I won't even have to write anything. I'll just type, "Yeah, what HE said" & then I'll point to the post above. ^^^^ :)

Two of a kind....for sure!!! :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:49 pm

stevew2 wrote:
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Lula wrote:steve perry is a good man.


I couldn't have said it better Lula. :D
He s good people


Indeed!!! :wink:
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Postby JasonD » Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:49 pm

brywool wrote:
JasonD wrote:Lately I've been agreeing with everything Saint John posts. Pretty soon I won't even have to write anything. I'll just type, "Yeah, what HE said" & then I'll point to the post above. ^^^^ :)


Dan's a smart dude AND he got me front row tickets to a Journey show. I owe him my life...

By the way- Perry got a LOT of Oprah time today. He should be thankful for that. How many other Kats can sit home for ten years, not produce anything new AND still get on Opie? Not a slam on Perry, just sayin'


+1. And let me add..... If Perry goes on Oprah after he comes out with his new CD I am most definitely going to be tuned in to that b/c I wanna see just how much credit & face time he gives to Neal & company.
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Postby cyndy! » Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:39 pm

JasonD wrote:+1. And let me add..... If Perry goes on Oprah after he comes out with his new CD I am most definitely going to be tuned in to that b/c I wanna see just how much credit & face time he gives to Neal & company.

on a show like oprah's, i doubt the guests have much control over how much face time anyone gets.
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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:59 pm

RedWingFan wrote:I'd agree with you on this, but he did nothing to damage their "Bad English" career did he?

Schon was on his way to having Journey being dropped because they werent selling in the 70's before Perry. If you look at it that way, Schon should be grateful for Perry extending Journey another 10 (20 years if you want to count TBF)



So nice when people actually understand the history of all of this, and are not just making up shit to suit their agenda! Save this bullshit of "Perry raped their career". Give me a fucking break with this shit. He gave those fuckers a career, and without Perry, they're not on Oprah telling Pineda's sad life story for the 100th time!
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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:05 pm

JasonD wrote:
If Perry goes on Oprah after he comes out with his new CD I am most definitely going to be tuned in to that b/c I wanna see just how much credit & face time he gives to Neal & company.



You're a fucking moron! There is sooooo much wrong with this post but you're too stupid for me to even rip your post apart!
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Postby Babyblue » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:51 pm

Enigma869 wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:I'd agree with you on this, but he did nothing to damage their "Bad English" career did he?

Schon was on his way to having Journey being dropped because they werent selling in the 70's before Perry. If you look at it that way, Schon should be grateful for Perry extending Journey another 10 (20 years if you want to count TBF)



So nice when people actually understand the history of all of this, and are not just making up shit to suit their agenda! Save this bullshit of "Perry raped their career". Give me a fucking break with this shit. He gave those fuckers a career, and without Perry, they're not on Oprah telling Pineda's sad life story for the 100th time!


Again thank you :D :D Most forget all about that part.Lets all get on Steve Perry and beat him up for doing that to them. :twisted: :evil: :roll:
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Postby parfait » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:57 pm

If Perry goes on Oprah after he comes out with his new CD I am most definitely going to be tuned in to that b/c I wanna see just how much credit & face time he gives to Neal & company.




You're a fucking moron! There is sooooo much wrong with this post but you're too stupid for me to even rip your post apart!


Geez, you need to calm the fuck down. It wasn't Perry who made Journey, it was Perry, Cain and Neal. If Herbie hadn't given Perry a chance, he would still be working on his step fathers turkey ranch - face it, he couldn't make it alone. Neal and Cain doesn't have to be grateful for whatever Perry did. He fucked their career in '96, and partly in 86. Nostrildanmus is the best vocalist ever, without a doubt, but he's also a whiny and controlling little man. I'd much prefer Neal's straight forward approach to stuff than Perry's "respectfull" approach. Really, how respectfull is it do hold of your "brothers" career by fucking 10 years, while hiking around in Hawaii and combing your hair - and still milk the shit out of Journey to this day?!

Some of you loons really need to change your panties and start looking at things objectively. :lol:
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Postby Art Vandelay » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:16 pm

Saint John wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:"In a statement sent to Oprah Show producers, Steve wishes the band well."

Steve Perry wrote:"Though we've gone our separate ways, I will be forever grateful for our time together…the music we created…and our faithful fans," he writes. "Continued success to all of you."



Hmm. That sounds ever so much nicer than "fuck him" doesn't it?

At least someone has some tact and decency in his public statements.


The guy stole years of peoples' careers and broke up lineups. There's nothing for him to be bitter about. Nobody did anything to him!! Your logic is severely fucked up. It's like a rapist wishing his victim "good luck with the rest of your life" and someone calling him classy! He raped their careers and took from them one of very few things that you can't get back...time.


You big grumpus!! :lol: He gave them those careers and success to start with when Herbie installed him as lead singer, he single-handedly wrote their first successful top 20 hit, and he led them into stardom. Without his presence they would HAVE no Journey to continue milking. Yes one might look at it as Perry bailing out, but one also might look at it as Journey bailing out on him with such an ultimatum as "get your goofy ass back here or we replace you".

And by accounts from both sides, he never told them "don't replace me" nor did he ever say "don't move on" - as the story goes, all he said was don't use the name, as in, "the name WE made". Because like it or not, he was a GIANT part of the name Journey becoming something. Maybe he didn't start the band or give it the name, but he made it *A* name.

These are facts. 8)


The name Journey encompasses much more than one man, and that's why they're able to still make money and perform all of the old songs. Perry's statement you referred to is an example of a selfish person not being able to cope with the band moving on without him.


Being that you play this card all the time, sounds like you're the one not being able to cope with the band moving on without him. Seriously, bro...move on dude!
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Postby Enigma869 » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:24 pm

parfait wrote:Geez, you need to calm the fuck down.


You need to get a fucking clue!

parfait wrote: It wasn't Perry who made Journey


As far as I'm concerned, his voice is THE REASON that anyone knows the name Journey, period, end of story!

parfait wrote: If Herbie hadn't given Perry a chance, he would still be working on his step fathers turkey ranch


Right, and I'd still have my paper route if I didn't decide to go to college and get an education. You're just another putz who comes onto this board and regurgitates the same shit you hear others say on here. Do yourself a favor and listen to Perry's demo tape. I think you'll be a bit surprised as you're listening that the sound you're listening to is the sound that "Journey" became famous for, and Schon and Cain weren't remotely involved with Perry's demo tape!

parfait wrote: face it, he couldn't make it alone.


Maybe, maybe not. What I do know is that the guys calling themselves "Journey" had four long years before Perry got there to "make it alone", and they failed, MISERABLY! What I also know is that Perry as a solo artist had success and sold albums without the Journey name on the album!

parfait wrote: Neal and Cain doesn't have to be grateful for whatever Perry did.


Doesn't have to be grateful? Your high school called and are seeking that diploma they awarded you back :shock:

parfait wrote: and still milk the shit out of Journey to this day?!


Are you fucking stoned? Perry is the guy "milking" Journey? :roll: WOW! You really need to work on getting some fucking brain cells connected! I'm fairly certain that the only "milking" of Journey that has occurred has been fully orchestrated by Neal "The Douche" Schon!
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Postby Deb » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:06 am

Enigma869 wrote:
parfait wrote:If Herbie hadn't given Perry a chance, he would still be working on his step fathers turkey ranch


Right, and I'd still have my paper route if I didn't decide to go to college and get an education. You're just another putz who comes onto this board and regurgitates the same shit you hear others say on here. Do yourself a favor and listen to Perry's demo tape. I think you'll be a bit surprised as you're listening that the sound you're listening to is the sound that "Journey" became famous for, and Schon and Cain weren't remotely involved with Perry's demo tape!



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Postby Michigan Girl » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:11 am

Deb wrote:
Enigma869 wrote:
parfait wrote:If Herbie hadn't given Perry a chance, he would still be working on his step fathers turkey ranch


Right, and I'd still have my paper route if I didn't decide to go to college and get an education. You're just another putz who comes onto this board and regurgitates the same shit you hear others say on here. Do yourself a favor and listen to Perry's demo tape. I think you'll be a bit surprised as you're listening that the sound you're listening to is the sound that "Journey" became famous for, and Schon and Cain weren't remotely involved with Perry's demo tape!



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Postby Ligzig » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:19 am

Did I miss something? As far as I know, Perry was turned down from everyone he showed that demo tape too, except for Herbie. I also don't think Steve Perrys solo success would have come without being in Journey. It also didn't happen until 1984...just after two of Journeys biggest hit CDs. Not to mention I recall a manager named Herbie who helped market that beast.

I guess some people will never understand the concept of mutual.
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Postby Vladan » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:25 am

A Perryless Journey? well it is just a band milking off on the success of their past front man isn't it, prove me wrong otherwise.

They talk about moving forward, though what they keep doing is finding singer after singer who struggles day in day out to replicate Steve Perry, I am sorry but that's exactly what it is, there really nothing else to say, you can argue till the cows come home, but it is what it is.

The reality is, if you can't see that? then it very regrettable to say, but you probably are not very smart, which is OK because I aint the brightest spark either, however! I can see this.

The biggest problem is, Steve Perry was just too good, he was simply too good. If Steve Perry was not so damn good! nobody will probably give two shits if this was Journey 26th lead singer, unfortunately for Journey today, one of the greatest singers of all time left them while casting a huge shadow over them when he left, not only that but Steve Perry knew, he knew if he left them, then that would be the end of the Journey legacy, and sadly it is, it's been over since 1996..

Can the band who plays Journey hits today be enjoyed? sure they can, will they still make money? sure, it's entertainment after all. Will they be included in the Rockin Roll Hall Of Fame? No, why? see Enigma's post above (minus the insults, as do not condone personal attacks) however if you can get past that, it pretty much speaks for itself.

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Postby Ligzig » Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:31 am

Vladan wrote:A Perryless Journey? well it is just a band milking off on the success of their past front man isn't it, prove me wrong otherwise.

They talk about moving forward, though what they keep doing is finding singer after singer who struggles day in day out to replicate Steve Perry, I am sorry but that's exactly what it is, there really nothing else to say, you can argue till the cows come home, but it is what it is.

The reality is, if you can't see that? then it very regrettable to say, but you probably are not very smart, which is OK because I aint the brightest spark either, however! I can see this.

The biggest problem is, Steve Perry was just too good, he was simply too good. If Steve Perry was not so damn good! nobody will probably give two shits if this was Journey 26th lead singer, unfortunately for Journey today, one of the greatest singers of all time left them while casting a huge shadow over them when he left, not only that but Steve Perry knew, he knew if he left them, then that would be the end of the Journey legacy, and sadly it is, it's been over since 1996..

Can the band who plays Journey hits today be enjoyed? sure they can, will they still make money? sure, it's entertainment after all. Will they be included in the Rockin Roll Hall Of Fame? No, why? see Enigma's post above (minus the insults, as do not condone personal attacks) however if you can get past that, it pretty much speaks for itself.

Thanks for reading.


Perry could go back anytime he wants. Why should Journey stop trying because Steve wants to sit at home stroking his pussy?

They can't move forward if they are always mentioning their past.
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