Journey On Oprah

[madsplash]

When did they talk about SP so much? I watched all 3 parts and didn't really hear his name mentioned other than for a second at the beginning.

[Jana]

Simply put, this is no less accurate than saying Perry left after 20 years in the band. It's not a lie. It's just leaving out certain pieces of information. You guys really think this is the only band that does that?!?!?

What exactly do you WANT them to say? I can just see this press release...
Journey, hiding in oblivion the past 10 years, has had a hard time filling the shoes of former singer--and now hermit--Steve Perry. After waiting many years for his return, they decided they were going to go with Journey spinoff band The Storm's vocalist Kevin Chalfant in 1993 until Perry's wallet decided he should join them. Then, after an album in 1996 and no tour, Perry woudn't/couldn't do anything and went back into retirement, so Journey was left with going for another singer. While appreciated by the band's fanbase, new singer Steve Augeri couldn't break out from under Perry's shadow due to a record label and changing times that had little use for new Journey material minus Perry. After 2 albums and an EP that didn't sell for anything, not to mention a dvd that didn't really catch the band on their best night, Journey burned out Augeri's voice on endless, but popular tours and had to pick up someone else in 2006. That singer was Jeff Scott Soto, a journeyman of his own right who has sung for everyone from Yngwie Malmsteen to a 70s Vegas cover band Boogie Nights. After making Soto part of the band for a few months, the decision was made that Soto was not the correct person to front the band, so Journey kept looking around and then...finally, found Arnel.

Come on people. At least be real. You knew they were going to say that Arnel is the successor to Perry. Fair or not, it's just good business.

Like or not, it did take 10 years to find the missing bridge to the Perry sound. That's the way I took it and given a limited time slot, I'm sure that's what they wanted to emphasize. And not everyone is going to agree with this, I understand that, but yeah it makes the point.

As far as I am concerned, they probably hate it that people don't know they were out there for 10 years after Perry. If a lot more people knew and listened to them, that Perry shadow would have been smaller. They have a brief amount of time in segments like Oprah and such. Are they really going to focus on their past singers. Having said that, in certain interviews where they have more time it would be nice to see Augeri mentioned. I don't see the point for JSS unless a longer, indepth interview which is rare in these touring promo interviews.

[MCC620]

Great performance by the entire band. Being on the show was a huge get - Oprah has millions of viewers of which the vast majority have probably never heard of Arnel. So, she has to ask the same old questions that all of us hardcore fans have heard a thousand times. Understandable - hopefully it will see a nice spike in Revelation and DVD sales this week. People can be so fucking critical that the big picture gets lost. The success of Revelation has guaranteed another Journey album and another tour. How many more of these are we likely to get? I'm going to enjoy everything they have left to give.

Thanks to Journey for a great cd, dvd, and tour in 08 - 09

Good post. Neal even commented how tiring it was to perform, fly in quick for the Oprah interview on their day off and fly back out to tour. Really good performance and Arnel is just an amazing person. I love him. The guys in the band looked great.

Re Steve Augeri, in longer interviews last year Augeri is mentioned. In fact, Jonathan raved about him and said, paraphrasing, that he was a team player, great person, and wonderful to tour with all those years, etc. He said some really great things about him.

I know with Tears for Fears when they reunited and released an album in 2004 people kept interviewing them and talking like TFF went away for 13 years, but in actuality Roland kept the TFF moniker and released two albums and toured several times. I saw where he didn't bother mentioning that or correcting the interviewers anymore in short interviews when they would act like they disappeared after Seeds of Love in '90. He would mention it in longer interviews in print.

please post the longer interviews from last year where augeri got a mention...other than a brief picture flashing on the screen or "after augeri left the band"....

the point is not that they don't talk about him in the interviews, the point is that their current publicity hook "that they were searching for 10 years for the right singer" gives the impression to the casual or newer fan that they were not making music, not touring and arnel brought them back to that. that's what's wrong with not mentioning augeri and his 8 years, 2 cds, 1 ep and 1 dvd with the band.

[stevew2]

Great performance by the entire band. Being on the show was a huge get - Oprah has millions of viewers of which the vast majority have probably never heard of Arnel. So, she has to ask the same old questions that all of us hardcore fans have heard a thousand times. Understandable - hopefully it will see a nice spike in Revelation and DVD sales this week. People can be so fucking critical that the big picture gets lost. The success of Revelation has guaranteed another Journey album and another tour. How many more of these are we likely to get? I'm going to enjoy everything they have left to give.

Thanks to Journey for a great cd, dvd, and tour in 08 - 09

Good post. Neal even commented how tiring it was to perform, fly in quick for the Oprah interview on their day off and fly back out to tour. Really good performance and Arnel is just an amazing person. I love him. The guys in the band looked great.

Re Steve Augeri, in longer interviews last year Augeri is mentioned. In fact, Jonathan raved about him and said, paraphrasing, that he was a team player, great person, and wonderful to tour with all those years, etc. He said some really great things about him.

I know with Tears for Fears when they reunited and released an album in 2004 people kept interviewing them and talking like TFF went away for 13 years, but in actuality Roland kept the TFF moniker and released two albums and toured several times. I saw where he didn't bother mentioning that or correcting the interviewers anymore in short interviews when they would act like they disappeared after Seeds of Love in '90. He would mention it in longer interviews in print.

I never liked Tears For Queers

[Jana]

Great performance by the entire band. Being on the show was a huge get - Oprah has millions of viewers of which the vast majority have probably never heard of Arnel. So, she has to ask the same old questions that all of us hardcore fans have heard a thousand times. Understandable - hopefully it will see a nice spike in Revelation and DVD sales this week. People can be so fucking critical that the big picture gets lost. The success of Revelation has guaranteed another Journey album and another tour. How many more of these are we likely to get? I'm going to enjoy everything they have left to give.

Thanks to Journey for a great cd, dvd, and tour in 08 - 09

Good post. Neal even commented how tiring it was to perform, fly in quick for the Oprah interview on their day off and fly back out to tour. Really good performance and Arnel is just an amazing person. I love him. The guys in the band looked great.

Re Steve Augeri, in longer interviews last year Augeri is mentioned. In fact, Jonathan raved about him and said, paraphrasing, that he was a team player, great person, and wonderful to tour with all those years, etc. He said some really great things about him.

I know with Tears for Fears when they reunited and released an album in 2004 people kept interviewing them and talking like TFF went away for 13 years, but in actuality Roland kept the TFF moniker and released two albums and toured several times. I saw where he didn't bother mentioning that or correcting the interviewers anymore in short interviews when they would act like they disappeared after Seeds of Love in '90. He would mention it in longer interviews in print.

I never liked Tears For Queers

Why are they Tears for QUEERS? From this performance live in '96? Break It Down Again. Great song and performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_bJX4HLeMM

So maybe it's from this performance in '82: Mad World? Listen to what the guy said at the end.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJePxdPX3Y

[brywool]

When did they talk about SP so much? I watched all 3 parts and didn't really hear his name mentioned other than for a second at the beginning.

look at the youtubes. Opie did a whole thing about him.

[Jana]

While Arnel's story was touching Neal looked like botox gone wrong and Ross looked worse that Keith Richards. Why is it that every time Jonathan Cain speaks he sounds so gay? Anyone else notice how the audience cheered when they showed the many clips of Journey with Steve Perry?

WOW!!! --- Was I watching the same show? Arnel's singing this time around was so much better than how he sounded at the Super Bowl but singing aside, if you're talking about their physical appearance, I have to totally disagree. I was just going to post that for once Ross didn't look like one of the character's from the movie Dick Tracy, Jon was hot as ever & Neal looked like a brand new man!!! As for Deen--- I love the guy & I know he's probably still recooperating from his hospitalization last spring & so I can't say anything too bad about him. The only negative thing I have to mention regarding Deen is what's up with the hair? I wanna say, "Gimme 15 minutes with ya, bro, & I'll buzz cut ya to sumptin, sumptin the ladies would love to see."

I didn't see the show whe's describing either. But, Jason, I love Deen's hair. He looked very sexy. Ross did look good, the best I've seen him in a long time. I agree with Jason, Jon did look hot. Blue suits him Neal looked great. He had the outfit on in my concert, and he looked really handsome on stage with the black jeans and red shirt. Arnel just has a beautiful face to me, such nice features, and a real kindness. Great-looking band for their age. All have great hair.

[Ehwmatt]

Deen's hairstyle looks like a lesbian used to a butch style trying something new, something a little more artsy. He should go back to the 01 Vegas look.

[Jeremey]

A few points while browsing...

I don't think the argument can be made that it took them 10 years to find the "Perry sound." One, I don't think Arnel's singing style is the same as Perry any more than Augeri's was. In fact, I think Pineda's singing is further removed than Augeri's from the Perry style. Now they can both certainly sound like Perry when they are trying to. But I think there's a difference between singing like and sounding like.

Second, Tears for Fears are an awesome band, and insanely musically talented. Listen to the playing on "Bad Man's Song" on Sowing The Seeds of Love and let me know if you don't shit your pants.

Third, I thought the band looked fantastic on Oprah. I'm glad to see that Deen's gained some weight, and I think he's probably in that "in between" phase while growing his hair back out for a change.

[Jana]

A few points while browsing...

I don't think the argument can be made that it took them 10 years to find the "Perry sound." One, I don't think Arnel's singing style is the same as Perry any more than Augeri's was. In fact, I think Pineda's singing is further removed than Augeri's from the Perry style. Now they can both certainly sound like Perry when they are trying to. But I think there's a difference between singing like and sounding like.

Second, Tears for Fears are an awesome band, and insanely musically talented. Listen to the playing on "Bad Man's Song" on Sowing The Seeds of Love and let me know if you don't shit your pants.

Thank you. Another TFF fan. And, yes, Badman's song fantastic. And kudos to Roland for taking a risk and taking a total departure from the previous album and experimenting musically. Love the Seeds of Love album, very jazz influenced rock for the most part, and Beatleseque in places. The sound production on this album is flat-out amazing. Great long-distance late night driving album to listen to beginnning to end.

Badman's Song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9wK1LBxZZQ


Also Year of the Knife one of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0BLR_P3EcM


Sowing the Seeds of Love Live - totally homage to the Beatles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNz6LtAX1hE

But this is my absolute favorite off the album. Very unique. Standing on the Corner of the Third World:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTNK__eOoMs

[Jeremey]

Thank you. Another TFF fan. And, yes, Badman's song fantastic. And kudos to Roland for taking a risk and taking a total departure from the previous album and experimenting musically. Love the Seeds of Love album, very jazz influenced rock for the most part, and Beatleseque in places. The sound production on this album is flat-out amazing. Great long-distance late night driving album to listen to beginnning to end.

Badman's Song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9wK1LBxZZQ


Also Year of the Knife one of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0BLR_P3EcM


Sowing the Seeds of Love Live - totally homage to the Beatles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNz6LtAX1hE

On many of my roadtrips I've recently been listening to Raoul and The Kings of Spain. Such an underrated record. It's not as accessible as Elemental, and there's a few clunkers on there, but what an intensely personal listening experience.

I know JoePA is a fan too, and many have told me that Everybody Loves a Happy Ending is fantastic, but I just haven't been able to make it the whole way through for some reason!

[Melissa]

"Struggled for 10 years to find a singer...."?!?!?!

Bah! I just knew I was gonna get ticked off if I watched that.

And why was Neal dressed like a carnival barker?

Glad to see I'm not the only one who found that crappy that Augeri wasn't even mentioned, and it was made out like they were a 4 piece without a singer for years and years and struggled to keep Journey alive, which everyone here knows is crap. I was told elsewhere the show wasn't about Journey (oh really? I had no idea! ) and was about "not giving up when faced with tremendous odds"... well by that (dumb) argument they should have just had Arnel on and not the whole band then. It's not like THEY are the ones who were "faced with tremendous odds" and were "struggling to not give up"

[Jana]

Thank you. Another TFF fan. And, yes, Badman's song fantastic. And kudos to Roland for taking a risk and taking a total departure from the previous album and experimenting musically. Love the Seeds of Love album, very jazz influenced rock for the most part, and Beatleseque in places. The sound production on this album is flat-out amazing. Great long-distance late night driving album to listen to beginnning to end.

Badman's Song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9wK1LBxZZQ


Also Year of the Knife one of my favorites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0BLR_P3EcM


Sowing the Seeds of Love Live - totally homage to the Beatles:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNz6LtAX1hE

On many of my roadtrips I've recently been listening to Raoul and The Kings of Spain. Such an underrated record. It's not as accessible as Elemental, and there's a few clunkers on there, but what an intensely personal listening experience.

I know JoePA is a fan too, and many have told me that Everybody Loves a Happy Ending is fantastic, but I just haven't been able to make it the whole way through for some reason!

S2M hates Raoul. I really like it also and is an album that has to be listened to beginning to end as it is a conceptual CD, no radio hits. It's a smaller album in sound compared to Elemental. Yeah, he laid it all out there in that CD personally and it is what makes RATKOS work. Don't know about the Cut Off Your Nose phrase over and over in the one song. ELAHE is really fantastic. My favorite summer album, though way different sound by TFF. Their three disc collection released a few years ago includes songs all the way up to Raoul and the Kings of Spain and it is fantastic and great remastering on sound Includes a couple covers by Roland and a couple B sides also.

[mdaemon]

"Struggled for 10 years to find a singer...."?!?!?!

Bah! I just knew I was gonna get ticked off if I watched that.

And why was Neal dressed like a carnival barker?

Glad to see I'm not the only one who found that crappy that Augeri wasn't even mentioned, and it was made out like they were a 4 piece without a singer for years and years and struggled to keep Journey alive, which everyone here knows is crap. I was told elsewhere the show wasn't about Journey (oh really? I had no idea! ) and was about "not giving up when faced with tremendous odds"... well by that (dumb) argument they should have just had Arnel on and not the whole band then. It's not like THEY are the ones who were "faced with tremendous odds" and were "struggling to not give up"

The reason why they were on Oprah was because of Arnel's story. Yes there was a few seconds of clip about Journey but this was just used as an introduction to show the huge leap that Arnel had to do from being homeless and singing in small bars. The show isn't even solely about Arnel as they also featured the lady who went to Harvard. It sucks that Augeri wasn't mentioned but again, the show wasn't about Journey. It was about not giving up when faced with tremendous odds. I can think of 3 reasons why the entire band was there:

1. Neal and Jon has a story to tell about Arnel (remember, Neal found Arnel and he called Jon first the same night he saw the youtube clip)
2. They need to pimp their DVD and Revelation
3. They have to play to accomplish #2

[Jeremey]

S2M hates Raoul. I really like it also and is an album that has to be listened to beginning to end as it is a conceptual CD, no radio hits. It's a smaller album in sound compared to Elemental. Yeah, he laid it all out there in that CD personally and it is what makes RATKOS work. Don't know about the Cut Off Your Nose phrase over and over in the one song. ELAHE is really fantastic. My favorite summer album. Their three disc collection released a few years ago includes songs all the way up to Raoul and the Kings of Spain and it is fantastic and great remastering on sound Includes a couple covers by Roland and a couple B sides also.

Maybe I read too much into Roland's lyrics during the band's breakup but I thought maybe it was a lingering regret over the breakup with Curt. I found that lyric eerily reminiscent of "won the war, lost the battle" lyric in Humdrum and Humble, for the same reasons.

[Jana]

S2M hates Raoul. I really like it also and is an album that has to be listened to beginning to end as it is a conceptual CD, no radio hits. It's a smaller album in sound compared to Elemental. Yeah, he laid it all out there in that CD personally and it is what makes RATKOS work. Don't know about the Cut Off Your Nose phrase over and over in the one song. ELAHE is really fantastic. My favorite summer album. Their three disc collection released a few years ago includes songs all the way up to Raoul and the Kings of Spain and it is fantastic and great remastering on sound Includes a couple covers by Roland and a couple B sides also.

Maybe I read too much into Roland's lyrics during the band's breakup but I thought maybe it was a lingering regret over the breakup with Curt. I found that lyric eerily reminiscent of "won the war, lost the battle" lyric in Humdrum and Humble, for the same reasons.

I will have to relisten to to that song. Good observation. Didn't catch that it might be related to Curt. Now, Elemental was completely about the split with Curt: regret, sadness - Goodnight Song. and bitterness, almost hate - Fish out of Water. Andit was genius where he either had someone do it or he mimicked Curt's voice for the harmonies on Fish Out of Water. But It was an album for the most part about starting over.

RATKOS was about his infidelity and the pain it caused his wife and about his heritage as a loose thread throughout the album and about finding peace since he was always a tormented man re his violent childhood because of his father and he had now become a father himself, kind of coming full circle and making peace with his demons. But you're probably right, I never thought to listen to it seeing if the split with Curt was in there. They were childhood friends, so I imagine until reconciled with a better ending than their ugly split it probably always weighed on him.

[Melissa]

The reason why they were on Oprah was because of Arnel's story. Yes there was a few seconds of clip about Journey but this was just used as an introduction to show the huge leap that Arnel had to do from being homeless and singing in small bars. The show isn't even solely about Arnel as they also featured the lady who went to Harvard. It sucks that Augeri wasn't mentioned but again, the show wasn't about Journey. It was about not giving up when faced with tremendous odds. I can think of 3 reasons why the entire band was there:

1. Neal and Jon has a story to tell about Arnel (remember, Neal found Arnel and he called Jon first the same night he saw the youtube clip)
2. They need to pimp their DVD and Revelation
3. They have to play to accomplish #2

We could pick this over all day, I know what the theme of the show was, and I know why they had the band there with him. I, and apparently others, are of the opinion that it was wrong to depict the band like some struggling 4 piece looking for a singer for 10 years. Especially when there's no denying that IF in 10 more years they are still around and were to have yet another singer, and IF they were to go on Oprah again for some show called, oh I don't know, "The Dinosaurs of Rock", and not mention Arnel at all after years of singing with the band, it would be found crappy by Arnel fans too.

Show wasn't about Journey yet there's three threads here in the Journey forum all about the band on the show

[mdaemon]

The reason why they were on Oprah was because of Arnel's story. Yes there was a few seconds of clip about Journey but this was just used as an introduction to show the huge leap that Arnel had to do from being homeless and singing in small bars. The show isn't even solely about Arnel as they also featured the lady who went to Harvard. It sucks that Augeri wasn't mentioned but again, the show wasn't about Journey. It was about not giving up when faced with tremendous odds. I can think of 3 reasons why the entire band was there:

1. Neal and Jon has a story to tell about Arnel (remember, Neal found Arnel and he called Jon first the same night he saw the youtube clip)
2. They need to pimp their DVD and Revelation
3. They have to play to accomplish #2

We could pick this over all day, I know what the theme of the show was, and I know why they had the band there with him.

...so what is the theme of the Oprah Show?

I, and apparently others, are of the opinion that it was wrong to depict the band like some struggling 4 piece looking for a singer for 10 years.

I agree. It sucks. I can understand however why Augeri wasn't mentioned.

Especially when there's no denying that IF in 10 more years they are still around and were to have yet another singer, and IF they were to go on Oprah again for some show called, oh I don't know, "The Dinosaurs of Rock", and not mention Arnel at all after years of singing with the band, it would be found crappy by Arnel fans too.

It would suck but I would have to understand what the show is actually about before I throw my toys out of the pram.

Show wasn't about Journey yet there's three threads here in the Journey forum all about the band on the show

...because this forum and the threads here are always on topic

[Melissa]

Semantics. You are cracking me up though, thanks . Have a good day.

[Jana]

Maybe I read too much into Roland's lyrics during the band's breakup but I thought maybe it was a lingering regret over the breakup with Curt. I found that lyric eerily reminiscent of "won the war, lost the battle" lyric in Humdrum and Humble, for the same reasons.

I went back and listened to Humdrum and Humble. One of my favorites on there including Me and My Big Ideas b/c of his rich vocal tone. These lyrics in H&H make me feel it was about his affair, not Curt.

Through the maze, precisely
Through the myriad of schemes
With your gaze, entice me
Like an animal, not a mineral

It reminds me of Secrets, the lyrics talking about giving into his carnal desires:

I used to think the time would come
When man would rise above the beast
I gave up thinking that way long ago
In conversation with a priest

Sometimes his lyrics b/c they're so literal to his life and actually happened don't make sense without an interview. Like the I Choose You song about someone came and stole his shoes and been down to the kitchen, in an interview he said he got caught in his affair b/c of missing shoes, and I think kitchen relates to his own recording studio, which is called Neptune's Kitchen.

BTW, I thought the placement of songs in RATKOS was perfect for momentum since it's a more intimate album.

[Triple S]

Well, I guess I enjoyed that. Went from being teary eyed, to pissed off, back to teary eyed again (I'd be a mess if it was SP singing with them). Arnel is really a sweetheart - the rest? - don't much care, I still love the music.

[portland]

Well, I guess I enjoyed that. Went from being teary eyed, to pissed off, back to teary eyed again (I'd be a mess if it was SP singing with them). Arnel is really a sweetheart - the rest? - don't much care, I still love the music.

I miss your old AV......that makes me want to cry!!!!

[strangegrey]

...Especially when there's no denying that IF in 10 more years they are still around and were to have yet another singer, and IF they were to go on Oprah again for some show called, oh I don't know, "The Dinosaurs of Rock", and not mention Arnel at all after years of singing with the band, it would be found crappy by Arnel fans too.

What comes around goes around.....I've been warning Arneliots for 2 years now. Don't get too comfortable with the little pinoy in the hot seat. It's a hot seat for a reason...and so long as Friga and Fro find themselves a reason to consider Arnel might be damaging their income stream (or more aptly, a potential income stream of greater significance or reliance comes around)....Arnel will be singing with the Zoo and eating peanuts with Francis Scaramanga.


Seriously...the reality is that Arnel's position in Journey is tenuous at best.....Arnel has another brain fart and talks to the wrong person in the press, boom...he's gone. Arnel loses his voice, TDK comes to the rescue until they have a viable replacement...then boom...he's gone. Arnel's woman gets a little too pushy with the demands....boom...he's gone. Arnel orders a pizza on Neal's room.....boom...he's gone.


The above situations don't seem plausable to you? you might want to breath air instead of sand....

[Jana]

I will say this. After watching these members of this band talk they all comes across so full of crap except for Deen and Arnel who neither ever seem to be brain washed by Journey. I can not ever watch an interview with Arnel without getting alittle teary eyed. He has got to be the most sincere person and nice as as anyone can be. I hope this band doesn't toss him to the curb when they are done with them. He has the most infectious smile ever!

He probably is one of the nicest people. How many people who had no money the year b/f and the enormous pressure of his first year emotionally, wondering how the fans would accept him, probably not making a fortune that first year, would start a foundatiion for street children? Nobody the first year. It would be something they said maybe in the future and would spend on expensive things for himself. I really admire that, and he just donated 25,000 towards the victims of the hurricane in the Phillipines. He has a big heart.

I have read really all of his interviews in the Philippines and most every transcript of his visits to his fans in the SB on his site, and Arnel has such a depth to him and very intelligent, thoughtful man.

[Triple S]

Well, I guess I enjoyed that. Went from being teary eyed, to pissed off, back to teary eyed again (I'd be a mess if it was SP singing with them). Arnel is really a sweetheart - the rest? - don't much care, I still love the music.

I miss your old AV......that makes me want to cry!!!!

Well - I could make a pink Hutch for October - I'll see what I can do

[Ehwmatt]

...Especially when there's no denying that IF in 10 more years they are still around and were to have yet another singer, and IF they were to go on Oprah again for some show called, oh I don't know, "The Dinosaurs of Rock", and not mention Arnel at all after years of singing with the band, it would be found crappy by Arnel fans too.

What comes around goes around.....I've been warning Arneliots for 2 years now. Don't get too comfortable with the little pinoy in the hot seat. It's a hot seat for a reason...and so long as Friga and Fro find themselves a reason to consider Arnel might be damaging their income stream (or more aptly, a potential income stream of greater significance or reliance comes around)....Arnel will be singing with the Zoo and eating peanuts with Francis Scaramanga.


Seriously...the reality is that Arnel's position in Journey is tenuous at best.....Arnel has another brain fart and talks to the wrong person in the press, boom...he's gone. Arnel loses his voice, TDK comes to the rescue until they have a viable replacement...then boom...he's gone. Arnel's woman gets a little too pushy with the demands....boom...he's gone. Arnel orders a pizza on Neal's room.....boom...he's gone.


The above situations don't seem plausable to you? you might want to breath air instead of sand....

LOL, fuckin funny shit Frank

[mdaemon]

What comes around goes around.....I've been warning Arneliots for 2 years now.

I have read the warnings for almost 2 years now not only about Arnel but also about the demise of Journey and so far, you haven't hit the jackpot yet. The doomsday that you have been predicting hasn't happened yet. What I am seeing is a band that are still selling records, still touring, and still being talked about. It may not be at the magnitude during their heyday but if you factor in the current musical climate, their age, and the fact that most of their contemporaries won't even come close to what they are doing now; then Journey aren't doing too bad.

Don't get too comfortable with the little pinoy in the hot seat. It's a hot seat for a reason...and so long as Friga and Fro find themselves a reason to consider Arnel might be damaging their income stream (or more aptly, a potential income stream of greater significance or reliance comes around)....Arnel will be singing with the Zoo and eating peanuts with Francis Scaramanga.

Even if Arnel is let go, I will still be happy for him. He would have earned several million pesos, he's now well known in the Philippines and can have a successful career back there, he's the only Pinoy that has at least a platinum album in the states, he has seen parts of the world he would have not otherwise seen, he's got his own posh house, his kids are going to good schools,and he's set for life if he brings his earnings and spend them in the Philippines. That's not too bad for a dude who used to sing in bars.

Seriously...the reality is that Arnel's position in Journey is tenuous at best.....Arnel has another brain fart and talks to the wrong person in the press, boom...he's gone.

In a CBS interview after the Rolling Stone article came out, Neal said "They took a segment of what he [Arnel] said in the interview and erased all the good stuff he said in between. It has happened to me a million times in my career."

That to me shows that Neal understood what happened and does not blame Arnel for it. To be honest Frank, I think most people know that Arnel was just taken out of context so no one apart from a handful few take that interview against him. What I would call a brain fart is for a rock band member to say no to a Rolling Stone interview for fear of being taken out of context.

Arnel loses his voice, TDK comes to the rescue until they have a viable replacement...then boom...he's gone. Arnel's woman gets a little too pushy with the demands....boom...he's gone. Arnel orders a pizza on Neal's room.....boom...he's gone.

The above situations don't seem plausable to you? you might want to breath air instead of sand....

If he loses his voice then I think it is just fair that he is let go.

[Saint John]

I thought that both songs performed on Oprah were excellent. Seriously, he finally nailed down a pretty good rendition of DSB. Nice interview and it was good to see that Oprah got the story right. Well done by everyone.

[stevew2]

I thought that both songs performed on Oprah were excellent. Seriously, he finally nailed down a pretty good rendition of DSB. Nice interview and it was good to see that Oprah got the story right. Well done by everyone.

Half the story was left out Dan

[kgdjpubs]

I thought that both songs performed on Oprah were excellent. Seriously, he finally nailed down a pretty good rendition of DSB. Nice interview and it was good to see that Oprah got the story right. Well done by everyone.

Half the story was left out Dan

everything that matters to the average Joe Public was covered. Fair or not, mentioning Augeri gives them no benefit, and Oprah certainly isn't the place you would mention it anyway. That would be better served on a talk show interview (ie Letterman, Leno, Conan).