H1N1 Flu Vaccine Consent Form,Would You Let Your Kids?

[mikemarrs]

H1N1 Flu Vaccine Consent Form,Would You Let Your Kids?


the school is wanting permission to vaccinate my five and four year old with this new vaccine....

would you let your kids or say no to the shot?

[Michigan Girl]

H1N1 Flu Vaccine Consent Form,Would You Let Your Kids?


the school is wanting permission to vaccinate my five and four year old with this new vaccine....

would you let your kids or say no to the shot?

I'd read up on it first and I would be present for the injection!!
Did you mean to post this upstairs in loon county, Mikey
or were you associating Journey w/Swine.....?!?!?

[epresley]

Yeah, I would.

[Angel]

Yes, I would as well....

[brywool]

Have you guys heard all the conspiracy BS about this? Holy Cow, it's right up there with Y2K.

Watch This:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my1XJ_NlH4Q&NR=1

My question:

HOW can people believe this stuff? Seriously...

[bluejeangirl76]

I agree... personally, I'd read up on it before I let anyone touch my kid.

In related news, my boss, who I'm around all day long, went and got tested for H1N1 today.

It turns out she does not have it, but still, I was like "Omg, stay the hell out of my office!!"

[Angel]

I should have also said, I would advise a regular flu shot as well. I can't speak for the entire country, but in my area, we are seeing the worst flu I can ever remember-the ICU is full of patients with the flu, and many are young, otherwise healthy people. We are seeing deaths from many types of flu, H1N1 and others....it may be hype but to an extent, it is true. To vaccinate or not is always a personal choice but make sure you get accurate information from reliable sources(such as the CDC), then make your decision.

[epresley]

I should have also said, I would advise a regular flu shot as well. I can't speak for the entire country, but in my area, we are seeing the worst flu I can ever remember-the ICU is full of patients with the flu, and many are young, otherwise healthy people. We are seeing deaths from many types of flu, H1N1 and others....it may be hype but to an extent, it is true. To vaccinate or not is always a personal choice but make sure you get accurate information from reliable sources(such as the CDC), then make your decision.

Yep, got my shot the other day.

[Rhiannon]

I've never had a flu shot, and don't plan on having an H1N1 shot. Ricockulousness. Give mine to some old lady or a baby.

[Angel]

I should have also said, I would advise a regular flu shot as well. I can't speak for the entire country, but in my area, we are seeing the worst flu I can ever remember-the ICU is full of patients with the flu, and many are young, otherwise healthy people. We are seeing deaths from many types of flu, H1N1 and others....it may be hype but to an extent, it is true. To vaccinate or not is always a personal choice but make sure you get accurate information from reliable sources(such as the CDC), then make your decision.

Yep, got my shot the other day.

Good boy....

[brywool]

I've never had a flu shot, and don't plan on having an H1N1 shot. Ricockulousness. Give mine to some old lady or a baby.

ditto.

[Ehwmatt]

Oh fuck all that shit with a 14 inch black cock.

It's the FUCKING FLU. THE FLU! Nothing's gonna happen to an average person other than feeling like crap for a few days. Besides, the medical evidence regarding the efficacy of flu shots is VERY disputed in the medical community. Some say it doesn't work at all. There may even be some adverse side effects. All I know is I've NEVER had a flu shot and I haven't had the flu in years (knock on wood). And don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those people with a superhuman immune system... I get my fair share of colds/strep/sinus infections. So take that for what it's worth.

Worst case scenario I get it. Oh well. If I end up dying from what appears to be another media circus blowup, you guys can all laugh at me and piss on my rotting MR account.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... =swine_flu

[Michigan Girl]

I agree... personally, I'd read up on it before I let anyone touch my kid.

In related news, my boss, who I'm around all day long, went and got tested for H1N1 today.

It turns out she does not have it, but still, I was like "Omg, stay the hell out of my office!!" :shock:

LOL!!!
A young lady walked into my office after taking her daughter to the doctor to let me
know that her daughter did indeed have this virus!!! My first response was, what about YOU?!?!
what about all of US, what about, you know, ME!!!! Poor thing!!!

[brywool]

Dang, is nobody going to comment on the youtube link? Ya gotta see it!


Prepare, the end is Nigh, the END IS NIGH!

[Angel]

Oh fuck all that shit with a 14 inch black cock.

Well, that sounds nice, but....

It's the FUCKING FLU. THE FLU! Nothing's gonna happen to an average person other than feeling like crap for a few days.

Not necessarily, in the hosptial across the street from the hosptial where I work (a larger hospital with an ICU) they have had the death of a teenage boy and a young mother...two more young mothers are in the ICU and their prognosis is not good.....

Besides, the medical evidence regarding the efficacy of flu shots is VERY disputed in the medical community. Some say it doesn't work at all. There may even be some adverse side effects.

Do you have a reliable source to back this statement up?

Worst case scenario I get it. Oh well. If I end up dying from what appears to be another media circus blowup, you guys can all laugh at me and piss on my rotting MR account.

Who would psychoanalyze me then?

[Ehwmatt]

A quick Google search nets a bunch of results as far as sources, but we all know about INternet sources. I don't claim to be a medical expert or even a scientist of any sort, by any means, all I know is what happens to me and my family/friends. No one in my family has ever gotten a shot, none of us has gotten the flu.

I heard a licensed practicing physician on the radio the other day talking about the efficacy of flu shots, or more specifically, the lack of conclusive evidence that they really help. She said there was a placebo group that was injected with water or something else completely neutral and they didn't fare any worse than the flu shot control group. No idea of the source of the study, I was driving and all that.

As far as the people in your local hospital, well, my heart goes out to them, but I'm willing to bet they are going to be the exception rather than the rule. Hell, people die from something as benign as dehydration sometimes. Shit happens. This isn't gonna be 1918 again, as much as the media would love that to happen. I ain't scared and I'm not getting a shot just to prevent something I'll be over in a few days. I'd rather get a common cold vaccine.

[The Sushi Hunter]

Is it injected? The only things I've seen about it is they shoot a mist into the kid's nostrills.

[Angel]

Well, as I said earlier, it is a personal decision. If you've never had a flu shot and you feel you are at a low risk and don't want to get one, I'm fine with that. I just have a problem with saying that it's all "media hype" because it's not. Now, while I am a medical professional and have a full understanding of how the vaccination work, I am certainly not going to take the time or engery to spell it all out here, suffice it to say that yes, there are some years when the vaccine is not as effective because each year the vaccine is "customized" to fit the most likely strains of the flu, some years it's a better match than other years, but it's an educated guess as to which will be more prevalent....that's it in a nutshell.

The CDC's statement regarding the effectiveness of the flu vaccine:

How effective is the inactivated influenza vaccine (IIV)?
Overall
Overall, in years when the vaccine and circulating viruses are well-matched, influenza vaccines can be expected to reduce laboratory-confirmed influenza by approximately 70% to 90% in healthy adults <65 years of age. Several studies have also found reductions in febrile illness, influenza-related work absenteeism, antibiotic use, and doctor visits.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/professionals/vaccination/effectivenessqa.htm


Now of course this is the "overall" statement but there are many groups of people that fall into other categories but, this is MR, not a lecture on infectious diseases.....

[Angel]

Is it injected? The only things I've seen about it is they shoot a mist into the kid's nostrills.

Both forms are available....

[The Sushi Hunter]

I've never had a flu shot, and don't plan on having an H1N1 shot. Ricockulousness. Give mine to some old lady or a baby.

Same here, I don't get any of those shots. Also I think I've pretty much inoculated myself from most of these diseases when I was in first and second grades, by eating candy off the playground that all the other kids didn't like. I knew kids that ate bugs..... well I ate left over candies on the playground.

[mikemarrs]

the thing i'm wondering is can it hurt your kids or make them very sick if they take the shot?

[Angel]

the thing i'm wondering is can it hurt your kids or make them very sick if they take the shot?

Here ya go MM....

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm

[The Sushi Hunter]

the thing i'm wondering is can it hurt your kids or make them very sick if they take the shot?

They could possibly have a bad reaction I guess if they had some health issues that this shot only made worse. Like my uncle when he was a little kid almost died when they found out that he was allergic to penicillin, but only after he was injected with it did they learn he was allergic to it and by that time he was very close to dying from it. This flu thing could be completely different. I've been lead to believe that when they give the flu shot to people, they are actually giving them a mild case of it and that the body automatically fights off the disease and in turn becoming immune to it. Am I comfortable receiving this in my system? not particularily, so I don't get the flu shots. My wife doesnt' get the shots either, our daughter gets everything taken care of during her scheduled doctor visits because she's still under two years old.

Last time I had to get vaccinated was on my way to Kenya. When you go to place like Kenya, they give you malaria pills to take on a schedule before you get there, which gives you a serious case of shits for weeks!

[portland]

Well they line us up at the hospital where I work and strongly encourge us to get the shots...as for my kids..I will get them the mist..I have seen way too many healthy people really sick already and we are at phase one...people need not die from the flu.

[Angel]

the thing i'm wondering is can it hurt your kids or make them very sick if they take the shot?

They could possibly have a bad reaction I guess if they had some health issues that this shot only made worse. Like my uncle when he was a little kid almost died when they found out that he was allergic to penicillin, but only after he was injected with it did they learn he was allergic to it and by that time he was very close to dying from it. This flu thing could be completely different. I've been lead to believe that when they give the flu shot to people, they are actually giving them a mild case of it and that the body automatically fights off the disease and in turn becoming immune to it. Am I comfortable receiving this in my system, not particularily. My wife doesnt' get the shots either, our daughter gets everything taken care of during her scheduled doctor visits because she's still under two years old.

Here's the accurate info SH....

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm

[The Sushi Hunter]

Well they line us up at the hospital where I work and strongly encourge us to get the shots...as for my kids..I will get them the mist..I have seen way too many healthy people really sick already and we are at phase one...people need not die from the flu.

People are dying from swine flu cause it's something like four different strains of flu all wrapped up into one.

[strangegrey]

This looks like a slippery slope. Before long it's not a permission slip to administer a vacination...it's a waiver to not.
Before you know it, parents will be defending their right to waive out of what becomes a required vacination.

Not only that, but there's some information out there by respectible members of the medical community that have suggested that the H1N1 treatments (vacinations and anti-viral meds) were rushed into production....and aren't as effective as they should be.

One might also consider the recent increase in severity of flu strains over the past few years as flu shots have been put into increasing use. As the pharmaceutical community rushes out a flu-shot each year....they may be inadvertantly allowing flu strains to superstrain into more resistant mutations.

I believe that's what's happening now. These flu shots that you get each year at CVS may prevent you from getting sick, but in the end, it's also preventing us as humans to deal with flu virus's the way our bodies are supposed to.

I think more limited use of these vacinations is far more prudent. Save it for people with impaired immunity systems or the elderly. Children shouldn't be given them either, because their immune systems need to develop....not be impaired by vacinations of this type.

just sayin....

[Ehwmatt]

This looks like a slippery slope. Before long it's not a permission slip to administer a vacination...it's a waiver to not.
Before you know it, parents will be defending their right to waive out of what becomes a required vacination.

Not only that, but there's some information out there by respectible members of the medical community that have suggested that the H1N1 treatments (vacinations and anti-viral meds) were rushed into production....and aren't as effective as they should be.

One might also consider the recent increase in severity of flu strains over the past few years as flu shots have been put into increasing use. As the pharmaceutical community rushes out a flu-shot each year....they may be inadvertantly allowing flu strains to superstrain into more resistant mutations.

I believe that's what's happening now. These flu shots that you get each year at CVS may prevent you from getting sick, but in the end, it's also preventing us as humans to deal with flu virus's the way our bodies are supposed to.

I think more limited use of these vacinations is far more prudent. Save it for people with impaired immunity systems or the elderly. Children shouldn't be given them either, because their immune systems need to develop....not be impaired by vacinations of this type.

just sayin....

Exactly my thoughts Frank, exactly. It's a microcosm of the bigger problem with health care that no one liberal or conservative wants to talk about: All we want is a quick fix. Drugs aren't the be-all, end-all answer. Take care of yourselves like I do, eat a good diet, vitamins, sleep reasonably well and you should be fine and recover fast in the event you do get sick. Hell, I don't even wash my hands very often.

Terminal stuff is out of your control to a large extent anyway...

[Ehwmatt]

the thing i'm wondering is can it hurt your kids or make them very sick if they take the shot?

They could possibly have a bad reaction I guess if they had some health issues that this shot only made worse. Like my uncle when he was a little kid almost died when they found out that he was allergic to penicillin, but only after he was injected with it did they learn he was allergic to it and by that time he was very close to dying from it. This flu thing could be completely different. I've been lead to believe that when they give the flu shot to people, they are actually giving them a mild case of it and that the body automatically fights off the disease and in turn becoming immune to it. Am I comfortable receiving this in my system, not particularily. My wife doesnt' get the shots either, our daughter gets everything taken care of during her scheduled doctor visits because she's still under two years old.

Here's the accurate info SH....

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm

Pardon me for not taking anything with .gov after the extension without at least a tiny grain of salt. I'm not going all conspiracy theory here, but I don't think they really know as much as they pretend to know.

[DrFU]

Yes, I would sign the consent form. This strain of flu is particularly hard on kids; even healthy ones can die.

http://www.statesman.com/search/content ... death.html


I got the flu 4 years ago after a Journey concert in Palm Springs and felt as bad as I have ever felt in my life to two solid weeks. Since then I have gotten the shots every year. If it is preventable, why risk having to (or have your kids) suffer through it?