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Postby stevew2 » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:00 pm

that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song
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Postby kgdjpubs » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:02 pm

stevew2 wrote:that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song


you have to download the entire show (all 6 parts) to get anything. Then, you get a 70 minute full concert....or just go to youtube and type in Journey Graspop and listen to the clipped audio version and realize what you are missing!
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Postby kgdjpubs » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:11 pm

Arkansas wrote:The source/vid that that I just downloaded and linked, according to this thread, is as clear as being right there on stage. It's HD, apparently with a high refresh rate...everything is clean and moves well.

But what I'm dying to take into the lab is just the audio. Clipping is kinda hard to work with, because that was the original file. However, I think I can separate it enough, and lessen the volume peaks without toning it down or flattening it. I think what makes this show so hot, is the punchy crispness of every single instrument's "sonic universe" if you will. And you just can't isolate that from any recording. Something about this performance, clearly shows that the engineers and/or the software used had everything right on the edge of being over-done...which often comes through as a distorted mess. However, this is a lucky keeper because it's just short of being over-the-top.

Having the original live feeds would certainly be a gem. I hope the band, or someone, does something with it. If polished & produced just right, this could be the hottest rock show that Journey has ever done.


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If you get anywhere with it, post a link. At any rate, it's miles better than the youtube versions which were REALLY badly clipped. I still think this is one of, if not THE best performance the band has done since the '98 reunion.
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Postby stevew2 » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:33 pm

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stevew2 wrote:that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song


you have to download the entire show (all 6 parts) to get anything. Then, you get a 70 minute full concert....or just go to youtube and type in Journey Graspop and listen to the clipped audio version and realize what you are missing!
Ill do that instead ,dont want to hear to whole show plus ill get some kind of virus and shit,how many times can i hear Dont Stop Beleiving anyway
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Postby kgdjpubs » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:38 pm

stevew2 wrote:
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stevew2 wrote:that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song


you have to download the entire show (all 6 parts) to get anything. Then, you get a 70 minute full concert....or just go to youtube and type in Journey Graspop and listen to the clipped audio version and realize what you are missing!
Ill do that instead ,dont want to hear to whole show plus ill get some kind of virus and shit,how many times can i hear Dont Stop Beleiving anyway


you don't listen to that show for Don't Stop Believin'. You listen to it for the good stuff (ie One More, Chain Reaction, etc). Just understand that the audio on the full video for download is about 100x better.
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Postby Jana » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:39 pm

stevew2 wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
stevew2 wrote:that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song


you have to download the entire show (all 6 parts) to get anything. Then, you get a 70 minute full concert....or just go to youtube and type in Journey Graspop and listen to the clipped audio version and realize what you are missing!
Ill do that instead ,dont want to hear to whole show plus ill get some kind of virus and shit,how many times can i hear Dont Stop Beleiving anyway


The videos don't do it justice. It's actually the flow and energy of going from great song to great song, all rock, the band at its absolute best, and like Arkansas said, the amazing sound on all the instruments and the way the concert is shot that makes it great. A clip here or there doesn't showcase that.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:50 pm

Jana wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
stevew2 wrote:that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song


you have to download the entire show (all 6 parts) to get anything. Then, you get a 70 minute full concert....or just go to youtube and type in Journey Graspop and listen to the clipped audio version and realize what you are missing!
Ill do that instead ,dont want to hear to whole show plus ill get some kind of virus and shit,how many times can i hear Dont Stop Beleiving anyway


The videos don't do it justice. It's actually the flow and energy of going from great song to great song, all rock, and like Arkansas said, the amazing sound on all the instruments and the way the concert is shot that makes it great. A clip here or there doesn't showcase that.


no it really doesn't. If you're going to try with the youtube though, here's the setlist.

1. Seperate Ways
2. Stone In Love
3. Ask The Lonely
4. Change For The Better
5. Lights
6. Edge Of The Blade
7. Wheel In The Sky
8. Chain Reaction
9. One More
10. Wildest Dream
11. Faithfully
12. Don't Stop Believin
13. Anyway You Want It

It's the part from Edge of the Blade through Wildest Dream where it goes into overdrive, and the energy level is through the roof. That is pure hard rock for 5 songs uninterrupted (or about 27 minutes). You don't hear from this band very often at all--and they are firing on all cylinders. A lot of people were saying Journey was one of, if not the best band of the festival. That's saying something, especially since you would think they would be out in left field at a show like this given their normal setlist.
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Postby SYNCH » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:28 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
Jana wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
stevew2 wrote:that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song


you have to download the entire show (all 6 parts) to get anything. Then, you get a 70 minute full concert....or just go to youtube and type in Journey Graspop and listen to the clipped audio version and realize what you are missing!
Ill do that instead ,dont want to hear to whole show plus ill get some kind of virus and shit,how many times can i hear Dont Stop Beleiving anyway


The videos don't do it justice. It's actually the flow and energy of going from great song to great song, all rock, and like Arkansas said, the amazing sound on all the instruments and the way the concert is shot that makes it great. A clip here or there doesn't showcase that.


no it really doesn't. If you're going to try with the youtube though, here's the setlist.

1. Seperate Ways
2. Stone In Love
3. Ask The Lonely
4. Change For The Better
5. Lights
6. Edge Of The Blade
7. Wheel In The Sky
8. Chain Reaction
9. One More
10. Wildest Dream
11. Faithfully
12. Don't Stop Believin
13. Anyway You Want It

It's the part from Edge of the Blade through Wildest Dream where it goes into overdrive, and the energy level is through the roof. That is pure hard rock for 5 songs uninterrupted (or about 27 minutes). You don't hear from this band very often at all--and they are firing on all cylinders. A lot of people were saying Journey was one of, if not the best band of the festival. That's saying something, especially since you would think they would be out in left field at a show like this given their normal setlist.

What's funny though is after Wildest Dream, AP is somehow shaking in the first verse of Faithfully probably still taking long breaths :)
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Postby alesson » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:56 pm

kgdjpubs wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
stevew2 wrote:that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song


you have to download the entire show (all 6 parts) to get anything. Then, you get a 70 minute full concert....or just go to youtube and type in Journey Graspop and listen to the clipped audio version and realize what you are missing!
Ill do that instead ,dont want to hear to whole show plus ill get some kind of virus and shit,how many times can i hear Dont Stop Beleiving anyway


you don't listen to that show for Don't Stop Believin'. You listen to it for the good stuff (ie One More, Chain Reaction, etc). Just understand that the audio on the full video for download is about 100x better.


I downloaded thru the second link..works fine as promised. Used VLC to play the file.. Not the HD that I thought but the audio synch was great. Not bad for a freebee. :wink:
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Postby Chubby321 » Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:30 pm

SYNCH wrote:
alesson wrote:
SYNCH wrote:
sonorstks wrote:file corrupt?

I downloaded all "Dropbox links" .rar files. Download all 6 parts and put them in the same folder. Use Winrar to extract one of them and it will automatically merge them. You can't extract just one of them without downloading the other parts


Downloaded all..file no 5 and 6 are corrupted. Can't complete the extraction process.
I guess I have to go back and download 5 & 6 again. :? :(

I think they're the same files that are in MediaFire and Dropbox. I believe if you download from whichever link, they will still merge. I recommend Dropbox as I was able to download them completely


I was able to download everything without a problem from the Dropbox. Thanks. :D
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:06 am

kgdjpubs wrote:
Jana wrote:
stevew2 wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
stevew2 wrote:that link sucked. to slow i not waiting 12 min to here one journey song


you have to download the entire show (all 6 parts) to get anything. Then, you get a 70 minute full concert....or just go to youtube and type in Journey Graspop and listen to the clipped audio version and realize what you are missing!
Ill do that instead ,dont want to hear to whole show plus ill get some kind of virus and shit,how many times can i hear Dont Stop Beleiving anyway


The videos don't do it justice. It's actually the flow and energy of going from great song to great song, all rock, and like Arkansas said, the amazing sound on all the instruments and the way the concert is shot that makes it great. A clip here or there doesn't showcase that.


no it really doesn't. If you're going to try with the youtube though, here's the setlist.

1. Seperate Ways
2. Stone In Love
3. Ask The Lonely
4. Change For The Better
5. Lights
6. Edge Of The Blade
7. Wheel In The Sky
8. Chain Reaction
9. One More
10. Wildest Dream
11. Faithfully
12. Don't Stop Believin
13. Anyway You Want It

It's the part from Edge of the Blade through Wildest Dream where it goes into overdrive, and the energy level is through the roof. That is pure hard rock for 5 songs uninterrupted (or about 27 minutes). You don't hear from this band very often at all--and they are firing on all cylinders. A lot of people were saying Journey was one of, if not the best band of the festival. That's saying something, especially since you would think they would be out in left field at a show like this given their normal setlist.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:16 am

stevew2 wrote:
kgdjpubs wrote:
Jana wrote:
no it really doesn't. If you're going to try with the youtube though, here's the setlist.

1. Seperate Ways
2. Stone In Love
3. Ask The Lonely
4. Change For The Better
5. Lights
6. Edge Of The Blade
7. Wheel In The Sky
8. Chain Reaction
9. One More
10. Wildest Dream
11. Faithfully
12. Don't Stop Believin
13. Anyway You Want It

It's the part from Edge of the Blade through Wildest Dream where it goes into overdrive, and the energy level is through the roof. That is pure hard rock for 5 songs uninterrupted (or about 27 minutes). You don't hear from this band very often at all--and they are firing on all cylinders. A lot of people were saying Journey was one of, if not the best band of the festival. That's saying something, especially since you would think they would be out in left field at a show like this given their normal setlist.
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have you actually listened to it? It's considerably more rocking and heavy than you think it is by simply looking at the setlist. With the jams and extended songs, keys WAY down in the mix, guitars way up in the mix, and the considerably faster live pace of One More/Wildest Dream compared to the studio cuts, I'd call it hard rock. Certainly the heaviest I've heard Journey since probably the Frontiers & Beyond Philly '83 show.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:38 am

Arkansas wrote:The source/vid that that I just downloaded and linked, according to this thread, is as clear as being right there on stage. It's HD, apparently with a high refresh rate...everything is clean and moves well.


Just to clarify, you downloaded the 6-part Flash video from SYNCH's ultimatemetal.com link, or did you have another source? What I got from there after assembling the 6 parts was just a 500MB+ FLV that wasn't anywhere near HD, but didn't seem to have the low frame rate either. If I tried to view it full screen it would look rough.
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:10 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
Arkansas wrote:The source/vid that that I just downloaded and linked, according to this thread, is as clear as being right there on stage. It's HD, apparently with a high refresh rate...everything is clean and moves well.


Just to clarify, you downloaded the 6-part Flash video from SYNCH's ultimatemetal.com link, or did you have another source? What I got from there after assembling the 6 parts was just a 500MB+ FLV that wasn't anywhere near HD, but didn't seem to have the low frame rate either. If I tried to view it full screen it would look rough.


Ok, I will be doing this download tonight, so now I must know which is the best link to use that gives me the best product?
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Postby RocknRoll » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:26 am

Thanks so much Synch. I was able to download the entire show, get Winrar and VideoLAN. I just watched the entire show and this one is definately a keeper. Absolutely love love Chain Reaction here. I think I'm in heaven.

I really wish they would put this up on Paladium (sp), but I'm just happy I got it :D :D :D

I might get the hang of this computer thing yet.
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Postby SYNCH » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:46 am

kgdjpubs wrote:have you actually listened to it? It's considerably more rocking and heavy than you think it is by simply looking at the setlist. With the jams and extended songs, keys WAY down in the mix, guitars way up in the mix, and the considerably faster live pace of One More/Wildest Dream compared to the studio cuts, I'd call it hard rock. Certainly the heaviest I've heard Journey since probably the Frontiers & Beyond Philly '83 show.

I especially like the instrumental part of Wildest Dream, what a crunchy riff there! :o

RipRokken wrote:Just to clarify, you downloaded the 6-part Flash video from SYNCH's ultimatemetal.com link, or did you have another source? What I got from there after assembling the 6 parts was just a 500MB+ FLV that wasn't anywhere near HD, but didn't seem to have the low frame rate either. If I tried to view it full screen it would look rough.

How was it compared to your DVD?

steveo wrote:Ok, I will be doing this download tonight, so now I must know which is the best link to use that gives me the best product?

Use Dropbox links

RockNRoll wrote:Thanks so much Synch. I was able to download the entire show, get Winrar and VideoLAN. I just watched the entire show and this one is definately a keeper. Absolutely love love Chain Reaction here. I think I'm in heaven.

I really wish they would put this up on Paladium (sp), but I'm just happy I got it

I might get the hang of this computer thing yet.

No problem! :D
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Postby steveo777 » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:54 am

On Graspop, is this really who Arnel is? He's definitely got a rockier sound and loses much of the SP emulation. I like it! :D
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Postby aliaslen » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:56 am

I have the complete show too...it rocks!
I've downloaded it in different site with 3 parts rar file links.
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Postby mdaemon » Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:00 pm

Arkansas wrote:This could be the best album since hearing Captured back in high school.
I'll clean this up and burn it.
Thanks so much!



later~


do you mind sharing the cleaned copy?
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Postby FishinMagician » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:46 am

mdaemon wrote:
Arkansas wrote:This could be the best album since hearing Captured back in high school.
I'll clean this up and burn it.
Thanks so much!



later~


do you mind sharing the cleaned copy?


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Postby steveo777 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:55 am

You guys are happy with the quality of this thing?

Video when zoomed to full screen is grainy and drags in places.

Audio...I don't think this distortion is good for my speakers.

I have heard rumors of a good quality DVD of this out there, but what we have is definitely NOT it!

I was really hoping for something I could burn a DVD of straight up and it would be decent. What's a bummer is that this is a great show. :cry:
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Postby FishinMagician » Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:42 am

steveo777 wrote:You guys are happy with the quality of this thing?

Video when zoomed to full screen is grainy and drags in places.

Audio...I don't think this distortion is good for my speakers.

I have heard rumors of a good quality DVD of this out there, but what we have is definitely NOT it!

I was really hoping for something I could burn a DVD of straight up and it would be decent. What's a bummer is that this is a great show. :cry:


i'm curious as well
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Postby Arkansas » Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:51 am

steveo777 wrote:... Audio...I don't think this distortion is good for my speakers. ... something I could burn a DVD of straight up and it would be decent. What's a bummer is that this is a great show.


Totally agree. This will be a waste of a great show if the band, or whoever owns the rights to the files, does nothing with it. The distortion is hard to fix...it's what I referred to early as 'clipping'. It's as if the original feeds were over-powered. However, I don't think it's bad enough that it's not somewhat fixable. I have been able to clean it a bit, but it does in deed flattened it some (like dolby back years ago). While it does still sound good, it loses a little crispness. And that's a shame. If I can isolate all the sonics and then remix without manufacturing, then I'll have a decent boot. But still, the real sound lies in the source recording. Without it, anything in a home studio is very difficult to reproduce.

Whoever has the original mix - PLEASE take it to a lab/studio and refine it. This is a diamond in the rough.


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Postby Escape81 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:12 pm

I'm not skilled with a computer or anything technical... but is it possible to somehow reduce the amount of static and distortion on the Youtube videos?
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Postby PianoMan1986 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:20 pm

Well, I downloaded all of the files, then downloaded the suggested freeware to combine and open the files (for Mac OS X) and came up with nothing. :?:
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:28 pm

PianoMan1986 wrote:Well, I downloaded all of the files, then downloaded the suggested freeware to combine and open the files (for Mac OS X) and came up with nothing. :?:


Did you use winrar for mac?
http://www.brothersoft.com/winrar-for-m ... 25813.html

People are over complicating this.
1. Creat a folder named graspop...whatever
2. Download all six files from dropdown
3l Install winrar
4. Go back into your folder where your files were downloaded.
5. Extract the very first .rar file into that same location....the rest will follow and extract.

If done properly you will end up with 1 500mb file.

This will play in Winamp, VLC and several other players.
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Postby kgdjpubs » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:05 am

Escape81 wrote:I'm not skilled with a computer or anything technical... but is it possible to somehow reduce the amount of static and distortion on the Youtube videos?



not without someone re-uploading the videos. For whatever reason, the audio was set too high and got clipped --> distorted sound. The original file is MUCH better.
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Postby Scarab Pilot » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:12 am

The Youtube sound has a lot of crackling in it...is the download any cleaner?
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:27 am

Scarab Pilot wrote:The Youtube sound has a lot of crackling in it...is the download any cleaner?


Yes.
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Postby SYNCH » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:42 am

aliaslen wrote:I have the complete show too...it rocks!
I've downloaded it in different site with 3 parts rar file links.

Are they the same?

I tried converting this to an AVI and the audio lags, it just doesn't work, oh well. If someone have a DVD copy, chime in. Thanks :D
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