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Postby SultanOfSwing » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:39 am

portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:Just a small little question...but what else has been released that would be serious competition for this???


Remember JUST a Question!!! no need to go postal!


Can you just once, Portland, be happy enough for Journey without looking for a negative? Never mind. :wink:




Did not mean to get everyone in a hissy fit...and yeah I am not a Journey Fan....kiss my ass RedJoe!!! there are posters here that claim to be fans that don't even know the songs that they sing!!! It was a question......sorry to bother you...you can go back to Plokerville central!!!


I wanna see Jana and portland going at it, just like watching this. :D
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:40 am

Some people should take their own advice, and yes I mean you!!! :wink:
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Postby Jana » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:41 am

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Jana wrote: ...and maybe that good karma will bring Steve's new solo out sooner rather than later. :wink:



And the Great Pumpkin will rise up out of the pumpkin patch!


LOL :lol:
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Postby portland » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:46 am

Jana wrote:
brywool wrote:
Jana wrote: ...and maybe that good karma will bring Steve's new solo out sooner rather than later. :wink:



And the Great Pumpkin will rise up out of the pumpkin patch!


LOL :lol:



Well it is almost Halloween..................Charile Brown! :wink:
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Postby Saint John » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:49 am

portland wrote:Well it is almost Halloween


Smear a little peanut butter around your mouth and you can be an asshole. :lol:

And don't bother posting the lame "You don't need the peanut butter" comeback. :wink:
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Postby portland » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:54 am

Saint John wrote:
portland wrote:Well it is almost Halloween


Smear a little peanut butter around your mouth and you can be an asshole. :lol:

And don't bother posting the lame "You don't need the peanut butter" comeback. :wink:




No I was going to say it takes one to know one :wink:
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Postby Saint John » Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:57 am

portland wrote:
Saint John wrote:
portland wrote:Well it is almost Halloween


Smear a little peanut butter around your mouth and you can be an asshole. :lol:

And don't bother posting the lame "You don't need the peanut butter" comeback. :wink:




No I was going to say it takes one to know one :wink:


In that case, I'd have to agree with you. :lol:
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Postby Since 78 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:17 am

Jana wrote:
brywool wrote:
portland wrote:Just a small little question...but what else has been released that would be serious competition for this???


Remember JUST a Question!!! no need to go postal!


Well the guy from "Forum 124" sure didn't release anything!


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Postby Author2 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:39 pm

brywool wrote:
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Pelata wrote:I'm sure the $10 pricetag helped these numbers...were it $19.99 or something it would not have had that strong an opening week...




it's always something.
Dang, the band gives people a major deal and they get slammed for it? I don't understand that at all.
It was a great package (production values aside for the hardcore audio files out there). It's a decent disc of a great show.


You had to know that someone would come in here and post that couldn't stand that Journey is doing fantastic. :wink:


Well no offence to Pelata or anything- but it just seems to me that the band cannot win no matter what they do. How frustrating that must be for them. Granted, nobody's gonna like everything...
I wish that more dvds and cds were that inexpensive. Might help a slumping music economy.
I don't care if people gripe, but it seems that now we're just looking for anything (from the slightest accent creeping in, to Neal's divorce roster ????).

I think it did well because of the publicity it had and also because it was a good product. DSB on Oprah was great, Faithfully- ehhh, but still, their performance and their story (real, fake, spun, or whatever) is selling them product. That's great for Journey.

Sorry, not sure why the anti-Arnel stuff gets to me so much. I guess if the last singer was in there and I was whinin' (as I was) it'd be the same.
Carry on!

hmm... I think it bugs me because I'd kill to have a voice like that guy. Holy Crap....



Maybe should have used it for other than mimicking "word for word" "note for note" someone referred to as one of his idols? But guess you gotta do what you gotta do, huh? This is my gripe.
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Postby RocknRoll » Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:50 pm

Author2 wrote:Maybe he should have used it for other than mimicking "word for word" "note for note" someone referred to as one of his idols? But guess you gotta do what you gotta do, huh? This is my gripe.


Maybe that's why there are 7 songs from Revelation in the DVD, plus one never performed live. Works for me. :shock: :D :shock:
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Postby ttango1 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:36 pm

My point is that the songs are not the reason Revelation went Platinum. Arnel's vocals are not the reason Revelation went Platinum. If fate had it that Revelation was released in 2000 w/ Augeri and Arrival was released in 2008 w/ Arnel, then Arrival would have gone Platinum. As it stands, Arrival was a good album with poor marketing and Revelation is a good album with excellent marketing...all the stars aligned on time for Revelation to do what it did and I don't see how that can be denied. That doesn't take away from anyone's talent...it's just an observational hypothesis.


Now that's what it should say at the end. I fixed it for you. You owe the scientific policy police a $10 Walmart Card :)

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Postby Pelata » Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:56 pm

Saint John wrote:
brywool wrote:Hey the piling on Pelata's not really fair. He wasn't whining about anything. It was just that one comment about "musta sold good cuz it was cheap" (paraphrasing) and I took that to mean "it ONLY sold cuz it was cheap". That's not what he actually said...
Sorry Pelata I kind of started it.


Pelata is cool and no one's "piling on him." There are just people that find his logic/opinion to be invalid.


Yeah, I'm used to that... :wink:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:31 pm

Good for Journey, they keep on, keepin' on. This just goes to prove that the world has taken a respectful liking to not only the band, but their lead singer and the story of their lead singer. This is exactly what Journey needs to kick start a push to enter the Rock N Roll H.O.F. If they can keep this up and have a couple more successful albums alongside DVD release's and sold out venues, then this will give them a chance to enter new territory and new heights. The bands presence is felt today and I can't be happier to be a fan. Congrats to all members. 8)
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Postby Chubby321 » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:37 pm

From Margil of AP's site:
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"Best Sellers-Video
10/14/2009, 6:39 p.m. CTThe Associated Press The Associated Press
(AP) — Weekly charts for the nation's most popular videos as they appear in next week's issue of Billboard magazine. Reprinted with permission:
(Compiled from a national sample of sales reports)

1. "Live In Manila," Journey.
2. "Video Greatest Hits: HIStory," Michael Jackson.
3. "Celebration: The Video Collection," Madonna.
4. "Number Ones," Michael Jackson.
5. "Live In Bucharest: The Dangerous Tour," Michael Jackson.
7. "Together," Gaither Vocal Band And Ernie Haase & Signature Sound.
8. "Wide Open: Live & More!" Jason Aldean.
9. "Kissology: The Ultimate Kiss Collection Vol. 1 1974-1977," Kiss.
10. "HIStory On Film: Volume II," Michael Jackson.

Copyright 2009, Nielsen SoundScan, Inc.
(Compiled from national retail sales/airplay/rental charts)

BILLBOARD HOT 100: "3," Britney Spears.
BILLBOARD 200: "Crazy Love," Michael Buble.
HOT R&B/HIP-HOP SONG: "Pretty Wings," Maxwell.
TOP R&B/HIP-HOP ALBUM: "The Blueprint 3," Jay-Z.
HOT COUNTRY SONG: "Gettin' You Home (The Black Dress Song)," Chris Young.
TOP COUNTRY ALBUM: "American Ride," Toby Keith.
TOP MUSIC VIDEO SALES: "Live In Manila," Journey.
TOP VIDEO RENTAL: "Ghosts of Girlfriends Past."
TOP DVD SALES: "Monsters Vs. Aliens."

Copyright 2009, Nielsen SoundScan, Inc.
Further information is available at Billboard Online on the World Wide Web at http://www.billboard.com.
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Postby Glenn » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:40 pm

I just came home from Wal-Mart and they had 30 copies of the new DVD.
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Postby Glenn » Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:41 pm

SultanOfSwing wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:Just a small little question...but what else has been released that would be serious competition for this???


Remember JUST a Question!!! no need to go postal!


Can you just once, Portland, be happy enough for Journey without looking for a negative? Never mind. :wink:




Did not mean to get everyone in a hissy fit...and yeah I am not a Journey Fan....kiss my ass RedJoe!!! there are posters here that claim to be fans that don't even know the songs that they sing!!! It was a question......sorry to bother you...you can go back to Plokerville central!!!


I wanna see Jana and portland going at it, just like watching this. :D
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THAT is such a great way to start my Saturday morning.

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Postby brywool » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:58 am

JSS Rocks! wrote:I just came home from Wal-Mart and they had 30 copies of the new DVD.


When I bought mine, I got the last copy
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Postby whirlwind » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:29 am

I really feel that Perry was sincere in wishing the band well and continued success as it must mean that he has now listened to their new new music as he once stated that he has not listened to them since he left. This dvd has made an impact and I'm glad and have always been that Arnel could have an almost impossible dream come true just as it happened for Perry by his own admission.
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Postby PowerChords » Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:30 am

ttango1 wrote:
I miss my old girl zipping down her wetsuit avi file :( My old pc is toast and I can't pull the photo anymore. You guys remember it? It's the one where you want to follow that zipper.


Dude, I remember that avatar. I was wondering why you changed it. Your pc might be toast but you can still retrieve the file from your hard drive - yes?
Do it now and do it quick!

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Postby SultanOfSwing » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:17 am

PowerChords wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
I miss my old girl zipping down her wetsuit avi file :( My old pc is toast and I can't pull the photo anymore. You guys remember it? It's the one where you want to follow that zipper.


Dude, I remember that avatar. I was wondering why you changed it. Your pc might be toast but you can still retrieve the file from your hard drive - yes?
Do it now and do it quick!

:D


Does my new av makes everybody's page slower? If it does then I'll change it, let me know. Thanks :wink: 8)
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Postby Rick » Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:27 am

SultanOfSwing wrote:
PowerChords wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
I miss my old girl zipping down her wetsuit avi file :( My old pc is toast and I can't pull the photo anymore. You guys remember it? It's the one where you want to follow that zipper.


Dude, I remember that avatar. I was wondering why you changed it. Your pc might be toast but you can still retrieve the file from your hard drive - yes?
Do it now and do it quick!

:D


Does my new av makes everybody's page slower? If it does then I'll change it, let me know. Thanks :wink: 8)


If it does, they need to buy a new computer. DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING! :twisted: :D
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Postby JasonD » Sun Oct 18, 2009 4:34 am

SultanOfSwing wrote:
PowerChords wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
I miss my old girl zipping down her wetsuit avi file :( My old pc is toast and I can't pull the photo anymore. You guys remember it? It's the one where you want to follow that zipper.


Dude, I remember that avatar. I was wondering why you changed it. Your pc might be toast but you can still retrieve the file from your hard drive - yes?
Do it now and do it quick!

:D


Does my new av makes everybody's page slower? If it does then I'll change it, let me know. Thanks :wink: 8)


Yes, the blonde lady makes my computer come to a complete halt..... (maybe you should try a brunette or a redhead.) :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Chubby321 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:23 am

http://www.examiner.com/x-25804-Music-E ... ideo-chart

Journey's first DVD with new singer debuts at No. 1 on Billboard video charts
October 16, 11:00 PM
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Journey: Neal Schon, Deen Castronovo, Arnel Pineda,
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Journey have done something that they never did with famed frontman Steve Perry - They have the No. 1 release on the Billboard Top Music Video Sales chart.

Filmed March 14 in the Philippenes, the 2-DVD set Live in Manila documents the homecoming concert for Journey singer Arnel Pineda.

The band's 2005 DVD release Live in Houston 1981 - The Escape Tour peaked at No. 9 on the charts, and featured Perry fronting the band at what many believe to be their most acclaimed era.

The new set features two DVDs and more than two hours of classic favorites, as well as selections from the band's 2008 studio release Revelation, their first with Pineda.

Revelation is the eleventh Journey album to have been certified platinum, selling more than one million copies in America. In the fall of 2008, the Journey classic "Don't Stop Believin'" became the most downloaded catalog song in history, approaching 3.0 million in sales according to Nielsen SoundScan.

As is the case with Revelation, Live in Manila is being sold exclusively at Wal-Marts in North America.
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Postby Rick » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:37 am

Chubby321 wrote:http://www.examiner.com/x-25804-Music-E ... ideo-chart

Journey's first DVD with new singer debuts at No. 1 on Billboard video charts
October 16, 11:00 PM
Music Examiner
Paul Gargano
examiner.com
San Francisco

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Journey: Neal Schon, Deen Castronovo, Arnel Pineda,
Jonathan Cain, Ross Valory

Journey have done something that they never did with famed frontman Steve Perry - They have the No. 1 release on the Billboard Top Music Video Sales chart.

Filmed March 14 in the Philippenes, the 2-DVD set Live in Manila documents the homecoming concert for Journey singer Arnel Pineda.

The band's 2005 DVD release Live in Houston 1981 - The Escape Tour peaked at No. 9 on the charts, and featured Perry fronting the band at what many believe to be their most acclaimed era.

The new set features two DVDs and more than two hours of classic favorites, as well as selections from the band's 2008 studio release Revelation, their first with Pineda.

Revelation is the eleventh Journey album to have been certified platinum, selling more than one million copies in America. In the fall of 2008, the Journey classic "Don't Stop Believin'" became the most downloaded catalog song in history, approaching 3.0 million in sales according to Nielsen SoundScan.

As is the case with Revelation, Live in Manila is being sold exclusively at Wal-Marts in North America.


They forget about the Vegas DVD already? :?
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Postby Saint John » Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:42 am

Rick wrote:They forget about the Vegas DVD already? :?


It wasn't a "stand alone" DVD, Rick. I think they meant the first official released DVD. It (Vegas)was more of a "bonus" in the Revelation Package. That's all I could think of.
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Postby Rick » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:02 pm

Saint John wrote:
Rick wrote:They forget about the Vegas DVD already? :?


It wasn't a "stand alone" DVD, Rick. I think they meant the first official released DVD. It (Vegas)was more of a "bonus" in the Revelation Package. That's all I could think of.


That makes sense. ;)
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Postby donnaplease » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:11 pm

I haven't read this whole thread, but I can probably get the jist of it by only reading page 4. Pro-"Arnel" Journey fans think it's doing well because of the band and it's accomplishments, while the other group (whichever lineup you prefer other than this one) thinks it has to do with marketing and cost. Given the listing of the other DVD's that it has topped, I guess a somewhat scientific way to figure it out would to be the cost of the Journey DVD compared to the others. I don't have the time or the inclination to do it, but someone might (I'm off to work - our staff is hit hard by H1N1).

I have a feeling, just by looking at some of the other names on the list (MJ, Madonna, etc) that the Journey DVD is much less expensive. IDK if that's the main reason for it's high sales numbers or not, but it has been a leading argument on here, and now we have something to compare it to. I guess the bottom line is what's more important to all those artists... having a #1 rating on billboard or raking in the dough. Both are positives, to be sure. 8)

As an afterthought... I'm sure the organization is making money on these sales, but I wonder exactly how much of that the actual band members are seeing. I mean, if they are selling the CDs and DVDs at rock-bottom prices, and then you figure in the cost of manufacturing, Wal-Mart's take, and that of Azoff & Co., I wonder if there's really that much to go around. Then again, maybe none of that matters to the band, as long as it gets asses in the seats of the shows. Hmmm...
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Postby steveo777 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:54 pm

donnaplease wrote:I haven't read this whole thread, but I can probably get the jist of it by only reading page 4. Pro-"Arnel" Journey fans think it's doing well because of the band and it's accomplishments, while the other group (whichever lineup you prefer other than this one) thinks it has to do with marketing and cost. Given the listing of the other DVD's that it has topped, I guess a somewhat scientific way to figure it out would to be the cost of the Journey DVD compared to the others. I don't have the time or the inclination to do it, but someone might (I'm off to work - our staff is hit hard by H1N1).

I have a feeling, just by looking at some of the other names on the list (MJ, Madonna, etc) that the Journey DVD is much less expensive. IDK if that's the main reason for it's high sales numbers or not, but it has been a leading argument on here, and now we have something to compare it to. I guess the bottom line is what's more important to all those artists... having a #1 rating on billboard or raking in the dough. Both are positives, to be sure. 8)

As an afterthought... I'm sure the organization is making money on these sales, but I wonder exactly how much of that the actual band members are seeing. I mean, if they are selling the CDs and DVDs at rock-bottom prices, and then you figure in the cost of manufacturing, Wal-Mart's take, and that of Azoff & Co., I wonder if there's really that much to go around. Then again, maybe none of that matters to the band, as long as it gets asses in the seats of the shows. Hmmm...


The Walmart deal allows Journey to retain the lion's share of the money, but all these inexpensive albums do is create further exposure. The bread and butter comes from touring.
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Postby Author2 » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:13 pm

Chubby321 wrote:http://www.examiner.com/x-25804-Music-E ... ideo-chart

Journey's first DVD with new singer debuts at No. 1 on Billboard video charts
October 16, 11:00 PM
Music Examiner
Paul Gargano
examiner.com
San Francisco

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Journey: Neal Schon, Deen Castronovo, Arnel Pineda,
Jonathan Cain, Ross Valory

Journey have done something that they never did with famed frontman Steve Perry - They have the No. 1 release on the Billboard Top Music Video Sales chart.


Let's not forget - they never did rerecords with their famed frontman Steve Perry, I don't think?

The band's 2005 DVD release Live in Houston 1981 - The Escape Tour peaked at No. 9 on the charts, and featured Perry fronting the band at what many believe to be their most acclaimed era.


Pretty good don't you think since Perry had been gone since 1998, well maybe 1987. Wonder, what if released on hills of Escape tour?
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Postby Rick » Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:31 pm

Author2 wrote:Wonder, what if released on hills of Escape tour?


I think it would have been huge. But I guess it would have been a VHS or one of those huge laser discs back then. :lol:
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