Favorite Song on Manila DVD?

[Michigan Girl]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

Steve Perry fronted Journey put them on the map...show some common sense while enjoying the ride!!!

[steveo777]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

So having an open & honest personal opinion about ONE show, labels one as detractor?
Might as well call the place BT, if the only rule to follow is " positive thoughts and sugarcoated reviews only when discussing Journey"....

As far as attendance goes, Arnel wouldve drawn the same crowd , had he performed with fucking Tool Its about supporting their national hero mainly,, and if you dont believe that, then youre dumber than you think I think you are (figure that one out )

Arnel & Jboyz, did a helluva show last year when I saw them. The Manilla show just doesnt deliver. Glad you enjoyed it and made it worth your $10. Also glad my copy was free. Everyone's happy. Life goes on !

Hey, dipshit...I'm talking about concert attendance outside of Manila. As far as honest and open opinion about ONE show....bullshit. You called Journey a tribute band, which it is not. You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

[Michigan Girl]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

So having an open & honest personal opinion about ONE show, labels one as detractor?
Might as well call the place BT, if the only rule to follow is " positive thoughts and sugarcoated reviews only when discussing Journey"....

As far as attendance goes, Arnel wouldve drawn the same crowd , had he performed with fucking Tool Its about supporting their national hero mainly,, and if you dont believe that, then youre dumber than you think I think you are (figure that one out )

Arnel & Jboyz, did a helluva show last year when I saw them. The Manilla show just doesnt deliver. Glad you enjoyed it and made it worth your $10. Also glad my copy was free. Everyone's happy. Life goes on !

Hey, dipshit...I'm talking about concert attendance outside of Manila. As far as honest and open opinion about ONE show....bullshit. You called Journey a tribute band, which it is not. You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

I'm LMAO, here, B!!!

[Behshad]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

So having an open & honest personal opinion about ONE show, labels one as detractor?
Might as well call the place BT, if the only rule to follow is " positive thoughts and sugarcoated reviews only when discussing Journey"....

As far as attendance goes, Arnel wouldve drawn the same crowd , had he performed with fucking Tool Its about supporting their national hero mainly,, and if you dont believe that, then youre dumber than you think I think you are (figure that one out )

Arnel & Jboyz, did a helluva show last year when I saw them. The Manilla show just doesnt deliver. Glad you enjoyed it and made it worth your $10. Also glad my copy was free. Everyone's happy. Life goes on !

Hey, dipshit...I'm talking about concert attendance outside of Manila. As far as honest and open opinion about ONE show....bullshit. You called Journey a tribute band, which it is not. You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

If you could try to understand as you read , we were discussing the Manila show , dickbag did you also read where I said a half a dozen times that I enjoyed their show last year ?!
And based on what I experienced from that show and how they delivered , it was disappointing to watch a show where they sounded more like a tribute band. Again, my personal opinion.

As usual you are very original with your comebacks.


Funny how you tell others to Stop arguing with detractors , yet you seem to have problems practicing what you preach

[steveo777]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

So having an open & honest personal opinion about ONE show, labels one as detractor?
Might as well call the place BT, if the only rule to follow is " positive thoughts and sugarcoated reviews only when discussing Journey"....

As far as attendance goes, Arnel wouldve drawn the same crowd , had he performed with fucking Tool Its about supporting their national hero mainly,, and if you dont believe that, then youre dumber than you think I think you are (figure that one out )

Arnel & Jboyz, did a helluva show last year when I saw them. The Manilla show just doesnt deliver. Glad you enjoyed it and made it worth your $10. Also glad my copy was free. Everyone's happy. Life goes on !

Hey, dipshit...I'm talking about concert attendance outside of Manila. As far as honest and open opinion about ONE show....bullshit. You called Journey a tribute band, which it is not. You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

If you could try to understand as you read , we were discussing the Manila show , dickbag did you also read where I said a half a dozen times that I enjoyed their show last year ?!
And based on what I experienced from that show and how they delivered , it was disappointing to watch a show where they sounded more like a tribute band. Again, my personal opinion.

As usual you are very original with your comebacks.


Funny how you tell others to Stop arguing with detractors , yet you seem to have problems practicing what you preach

Let's just kill each other. That would be fun!

[Rick]

you're dumber than you think I think you are.

You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

[mdaemon]

you're dumber than you think I think you are.

You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

absolutely primary school

[Behshad]

you're dumber than you think I think you are.

You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

And suddenly, a new contender has emerged

[steveo777]

you're dumber than you think I think you are.

You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

absolutely primary school

Did you mean Primates? Plenty of knuckle draggers around here.

[portland]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

So having an open & honest personal opinion about ONE show, labels one as detractor?
Might as well call the place BT, if the only rule to follow is " positive thoughts and sugarcoated reviews only when discussing Journey"....

As far as attendance goes, Arnel wouldve drawn the same crowd , had he performed with fucking Tool Its about supporting their national hero mainly,, and if you dont believe that, then youre dumber than you think I think you are (figure that one out )

Arnel & Jboyz, did a helluva show last year when I saw them. The Manilla show just doesnt deliver. Glad you enjoyed it and made it worth your $10. Also glad my copy was free. Everyone's happy. Life goes on !

Hey, dipshit...I'm talking about concert attendance outside of Manila. As far as honest and open opinion about ONE show....bullshit. You called Journey a tribute band, which it is not. You really are stupider than you thought I thought you were.

If you could try to understand as you read , we were discussing the Manila show , dickbag did you also read where I said a half a dozen times that I enjoyed their show last year ?!
And based on what I experienced from that show and how they delivered , it was disappointing to watch a show where they sounded more like a tribute band. Again, my personal opinion.

As usual you are very original with your comebacks.


Funny how you tell others to Stop arguing with detractors , yet you seem to have problems practicing what you preach

Let's just kill each other. That would be fun!

My money is on B.....just so ya know!!!

[mdaemon]

My money is on B.....just so ya know!!!

Mine's on Steveo. Once he sits on B's face, it's game over.

[Behshad]

My money is on B.....just so ya know!!!

Mine's on Steveo. Once he sits on B's face, it's game over......

......When he realises what he sat on was one of my "fake Behshad with built in dynamite replica" that I ordered from Hamazon. (Hezbollah Amazon).

[steveo777]

My money is on B.....just so ya know!!!

Mine's on Steveo. Once he sits on B's face, it's game over......

......When he realises what he sat on was one of my "fake Behshad with built in dynamite replica" that I ordered from Hamazon. (Hezbollah Amazon).

What, ya think you're some kind of terrist?

[Jana]

My money is on B.....just so ya know!!!

Mine's on Steveo. Once he sits on B's face, it's game over......

......When he realises what he sat on was one of my "fake Behshad with built in dynamite replica" that I ordered from Hamazon. (Hezbollah Amazon).

[Behshad]

My money is on B.....just so ya know!!!

Mine's on Steveo. Once he sits on B's face, it's game over......

......When he realises what he sat on was one of my "fake Behshad with built in dynamite replica" that I ordered from Hamazon. (Hezbollah Amazon).

What, ya think you're some kind of terrist?

This was way before you joined here , but I was labeled as The Toxic Terrorist for a while ,,

[Michigan Girl]

My money is on B.....just so ya know!!!

+1

youre dumber than I think you are

But he lost a point for ^^^^ too much thinking here!!

[StevePerryHair]

My money is on B.....just so ya know!!!

I'd have to see what Steveo looked like before I could make that determination His dynamite replica may be bigger for all we know

[Onestepper]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

Look I'm not a 'detractor' as you state, just like I hope you aren't a loon. You provide a good basis for your argument. And so do the people that just don't go ga ga over everything the band does, recorded or live. But your statement about the time period post Perry, and how that doesn't make them comparable to a tribute band is laughable. Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on. What does that give you? Here let me do the math for you. Zero. And that includes the current make up. Because you took away all of the Perry songs, so there are no remakes. And nothing that Arnel needs to emulate to give them the 'legacy' sound.

I agree the band sounds good current day. But the stuff that they have put out is not nearly strong enough to give them a fraction of the success they are currently enjoying if it stood on it's own. And if you think differently, than you probably have a congenital disease, and should seek treatment. Cause you just ain't right.

[Michigan Girl]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

Look I'm not a 'detractor' as you state, just like I hope you aren't a loon. You provide a good basis for your argument. And so do the people that just don't go ga ga over everything the band does, recorded or live. But your statement about the time period post Perry, and how that doesn't make them comparable to a tribute band is laughable. Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on. What does that give you? Here let me do the math for you. Zero. And that includes the current make up. Because you took away all of the Perry songs, so there are no remakes. And nothing that Arnel needs to emulate to give them the 'legacy' sound.

I agree the band sounds good current day. But the stuff that they have put out is not nearly strong enough to give them a fraction of the success they are currently enjoying if it stood on it's own. And if you think differently, than you probably have a congenital disease, and should seek treatment. Cause you just ain't right.

Have I told you lately that I love you, Jeb?!?

[portland]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

Look I'm not a 'detractor' as you state, just like I hope you aren't a loon. You provide a good basis for your argument. And so do the people that just don't go ga ga over everything the band does, recorded or live. But your statement about the time period post Perry, and how that doesn't make them comparable to a tribute band is laughable. Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on. What does that give you? Here let me do the math for you. Zero. And that includes the current make up. Because you took away all of the Perry songs, so there are no remakes. And nothing that Arnel needs to emulate to give them the 'legacy' sound.

I agree the band sounds good current day. But the stuff that they have put out is not nearly strong enough to give them a fraction of the success they are currently enjoying if it stood on it's own. And if you think differently, than you probably have a congenital disease, and should seek treatment. Cause you just ain't right.

OMG!!! I can't take it....a post that really makes sense!!! BRAVO!

[Jana]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

Look I'm not a 'detractor' as you state, just like I hope you aren't a loon. You provide a good basis for your argument. And so do the people that just don't go ga ga over everything the band does, recorded or live. But your statement about the time period post Perry, and how that doesn't make them comparable to a tribute band is laughable. Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on. What does that give you? Here let me do the math for you. Zero. And that includes the current make up. Because you took away all of the Perry songs, so there are no remakes. And nothing that Arnel needs to emulate to give them the 'legacy' sound.

I agree the band sounds good current day. But the stuff that they have put out is not nearly strong enough to give them a fraction of the success they are currently enjoying if it stood on it's own. And if you think differently, than you probably have a congenital disease, and should seek treatment. Cause you just ain't right.

Not a disease - The Foot in Mouth Award is awarded each year by the British Plain English Campaign for "a baffling comment by a public figure". Steveo deserves a lot of those awards on MR. Hence, the bolded statement in his post above.

[Saint John]

Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on.

Sorry, but that's just not fair or valid. The band in no way has to completely pack away songs they helped co-create because their recluse singer has decided to call it a career. I don't recall the Journey fans not really interested in seeing Steve Perry on the FTLOSM tour (and there were many that didn't go, hence the non sellouts at 2,500 seat venues)screaming that Perry was a tribute act or that his band shouldn't be playing the music of Neal, Jon, Ross and Smitty. Asking Steve to sing "a capella" is just as ridiculous as asking Journey not to sing songs that Perry originally sang. Both arguments are dumb, but Journey has tried over and over to convince Steve to rejoin and has never once tried touring without him while he was in the band...something he did to them. And then he came back to thwart their new lineup...and fucked them again. Classy guy.

[Onestepper]

Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on.

Sorry, but that's just not fair or valid. The band in no way has to completely pack away songs they helped co-create because their recluse singer has decided to call it a career. I don't recall the Journey fans not really interested in seeing Steve Perry on the FTLOSM tour (and there were many that didn't go, hence the non sellouts at 2,500 seat venues)screaming that Perry was a tribute act or that his band shouldn't be playing the music of Neal, Jon, Ross and Smitty. Asking Steve to sing "a capella" is just as ridiculous as asking Journey not to sing songs that Perry originally sang. Both arguments are dumb, but Journey has tried over and over to convince Steve to rejoin and has never once tried touring without him while he was in the band...something he did to them. And then he came back to thwart their new lineup...and fucked them again. Classy guy.

Well good for you for twisting a statement to turn it into an opportunity to post your agenda. The point was made in my original post. And it has nothing to do with what you posted. Sorry you can't focus enough to figure out what that would be. But it hasn't changed.

[steveo777]

Hey guys, stop arguing with the detractors. You're not gonna change their minds. Fortunately, they do not represent the mass Journey fan base. We're ok. My gauge is the show attendance and the way the crowds are just eating it up. Journey is doing it's best in over 13 years. What is ridiculous is people calling Journey a tribute band when it's tenure as a band triples Steve Perry's. Hell, Steve Augeri worked longer than Perry. (I don't consider being absent from the band 10 years tenure). But, loon away, if you must.

Journey of today rocks! Consider this; even while there was Perry there will still plenty of people who thought Journey sucked. I have a friend that was relieved that Journey was finally gone, or so he thought....til he heard about Arnel reviving them. He could never understand all the Journey love. He's the type that thinks Tool is the greatest band that ever lived.

Look I'm not a 'detractor' as you state, just like I hope you aren't a loon. You provide a good basis for your argument. And so do the people that just don't go ga ga over everything the band does, recorded or live. But your statement about the time period post Perry, and how that doesn't make them comparable to a tribute band is laughable. Take any of those 13 years, subtract every song that Steve MF'n Perry was the original singer on. What does that give you? Here let me do the math for you. Zero. And that includes the current make up. Because you took away all of the Perry songs, so there are no remakes. And nothing that Arnel needs to emulate to give them the 'legacy' sound.

I agree the band sounds good current day. But the stuff that they have put out is not nearly strong enough to give them a fraction of the success they are currently enjoying if it stood on it's own. And if you think differently, than you probably have a congenital disease, and should seek treatment. Cause you just ain't right.

Not a disease - The Foot in Mouth Award is awarded each year by the British Plain English Campaign for "a baffling comment by a public figure". Steveo deserves a lot of those awards on MR. Hence, the bolded statement in his post above.

Not really Jana. Look at all the time SP was on some kind of hiatus. What was he doing prior to ROR and for how long? Look closely after Frontiers. Steve went off on his solo project (Street Talk) and did not return until 1986. So, he was with the band 5 years up thru the Frontiers album. After that he was working on his solo album, then let's say back for one year 1986-1987 on ROR tour which terminated early. The band reunites for TBF and no tour. So I find 7 years of "real tenure for SP. SA had 8.

[StevePerryHair]

[
Not really Jana. Look at all the time SP was on some kind of hiatus. What was he doing prior to ROR and for how long? Look closely after Frontiers. Steve went off on his solo project (Street Talk) and did not return until 1986. So, he was with the band 5 years up thru the Frontiers album. After that he was working on his solo album, then let's say back for one year 1986-1987 on ROR tour which terminated early. The band reunites for TBF and no tour. So I find 7 years of "real tenure for SP. SA had 8.

I don't think I understand, though I've been called a dumb ass before But are you are saying that since SA had 8 years with the band and you count SP's 7 years with the band to be less, that he is less relevant to the band? That the band is relevant on it's own, and SP leaving had no bearing at all on what they accomplish as a band? Because SP was part of the band when that genre of music was most relevant. All these years after, this music is not, which is why they bank on the music they made with SP. Maybe I'm just not understanding you though.

[Michigan Girl]

Another copy and paste by Steveo777...who BTW, completely missed the HOLE!!

He must have PDD!!!

[Michigan Girl]

[
Not really Jana. Look at all the time SP was on some kind of hiatus. What was he doing prior to ROR and for how long? Look closely after Frontiers. Steve went off on his solo project (Street Talk) and did not return until 1986. So, he was with the band 5 years up thru the Frontiers album. After that he was working on his solo album, then let's say back for one year 1986-1987 on ROR tour which terminated early. The band reunites for TBF and no tour. So I find 7 years of "real tenure for SP. SA had 8.

I don't think I understand, though I've been called a dumb ass before But are you are saying that since SA had 8 years with the band and you count SP's 7 years with the band to be less, that he is less relevant to the band? That the band is relevant on it's own, and SP leaving had no bearing at all on what they accomplish as a band? Because SP was part of the band when that genre of music was most relevant. All these years after, this music is not, which is why they bank on the music they made with SP. Maybe I'm just not understanding you though.

And I'm not sure I understand YOU...but yeah, you are not the dumb ass!!

Jeb's/OS's post was excellent and it has been twisted and turned by those that don't
wish to read it for what it is...a FACT!!!

[StevePerryHair]

[
Not really Jana. Look at all the time SP was on some kind of hiatus. What was he doing prior to ROR and for how long? Look closely after Frontiers. Steve went off on his solo project (Street Talk) and did not return until 1986. So, he was with the band 5 years up thru the Frontiers album. After that he was working on his solo album, then let's say back for one year 1986-1987 on ROR tour which terminated early. The band reunites for TBF and no tour. So I find 7 years of "real tenure for SP. SA had 8.

I don't think I understand, though I've been called a dumb ass before But are you are saying that since SA had 8 years with the band and you count SP's 7 years with the band to be less, that he is less relevant to the band? That the band is relevant on it's own, and SP leaving had no bearing at all on what they accomplish as a band? Because SP was part of the band when that genre of music was most relevant. All these years after, this music is not, which is why they bank on the music they made with SP. Maybe I'm just not understanding you though.

And I'm not sure I understand YOU...but yeah, you are not the dumb ass!!

Jeb's/OS's post was excellent and it has been twisted and turned by those that don't
wish to read it for what it is...a FACT!!!

I just don't get his point

[RocknRoll]

I want to know what the definition of "detractor" is.

[StevePerryHair]

I want to know what the definition of "detractor" is.

Im guessing people who detract from the thread title? But I think I'm confused so don't ask me