OT~NCAAF~2009

[Enigma869]

Yeah, and I guess yall will start believing in wrestling more when they stop scripting it, huh? Heres whats funny as hell: If one of your teams were in Florida's position right now the system would be fine but because it happens to be a school you dont care for the entire college football world is flawed! For fucks sake, its only been this way forever???? Why get pissed about it now??? Oh, thats right, because your team isnt in Florida's shoes right now...ya hypocritical bastards.
If you dont agree with college football you have 2 choices: 1) turn the shit off!!!! 2)write the NCAA and voice your displeasure. For once in your life get off a message board and make action happen!!!! In the meantime I will enjoy my BELOVED UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA FIGHTING MOTHERFUCKING GATORS being undefeated and if we drop from #1 who cares right now-its where we are at the end that matters and we control our own destiny....in fact I wouldnt mond a drop from #1...maybe it'll knock the bugs back outta this system! Get our ship righted again like last season when we lost to Ole Miss.

Sorry dude, but you couldn't be more wrong about this for many of us. If you're someone who grew up playing competitive sports (as some of us did) or even just enjoy watching sports, you should be fucking outraged that computer geeks are deciding where teams should be ranked. Hell, if I'm a Florida fan, I'd be pissed that the dopey BCS system is probably going to say Florida didn't beat a medicore team by enough points to hold onto their top ranking. Winning should be all that matters! Sorry if you don't get this, but I can honestly say that for me, I have ZERO "envy" or "jealousy" over Florida or their program. I've been on record in the past that I think Florida is one of the absolute worst sports states on the planet, so I can assure you that I'm not wishing I was a fan of any of their teams. Also, I don't really have a dog in this fight, because there really isn't a college football team that I'm remotely passionate about. Because of that, there is ZERO emotion involved for me. I simply think there absolutely NEEDS to be a playoff system in college football, just like there is in EVERY other college sport. As far as I'm concerned, there isn't even one single good argument against it!

[Ehwmatt]

Yeah, and I guess yall will start believing in wrestling more when they stop scripting it, huh? Heres whats funny as hell: If one of your teams were in Florida's position right now the system would be fine but because it happens to be a school you dont care for the entire college football world is flawed! For fucks sake, its only been this way forever???? Why get pissed about it now??? Oh, thats right, because your team isnt in Florida's shoes right now...ya hypocritical bastards.
If you dont agree with college football you have 2 choices: 1) turn the shit off!!!! 2)write the NCAA and voice your displeasure. For once in your life get off a message board and make action happen!!!! In the meantime I will enjoy my BELOVED UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA FIGHTING MOTHERFUCKING GATORS being undefeated and if we drop from #1 who cares right now-its where we are at the end that matters and we control our own destiny....in fact I wouldnt mond a drop from #1...maybe it'll knock the bugs back outta this system! Get our ship righted again like last season when we lost to Ole Miss.

Sorry dude, but you couldn't be more wrong about this for many of us. If you're someone who grew up playing competitive sports (as some of us did) or even just enjoy watching sports, you should be fucking outraged that computer geeks are deciding where teams should be ranked. Hell, if I'm a Florida fan, I'd be pissed that the dopey BCS system is probably going to say Florida didn't beat a medicore team by enough points to hold onto their top ranking. Winning should be all that matters! Sorry if you don't get this, but I can honestly say that for me, I have ZERO "envy" or "jealousy" over Florida or their program. I've been on record in the past that I think Florida is one of the absolute worst sports states on the planet, so I can assure you that I'm not wishing I was a fan of any of their teams. Also, I don't really have a dog in this fight, because there really isn't a college football team that I'm remotely passionate about. Because of that, there is ZERO emotion involved for me. I simply think there absolutely NEEDS to be a playoff system in college football, just like there is in EVERY other college sport. As far as I'm concerned, there isn't even one single good argument against it!

I'm in the same boat, I don't give a shit about OSU so that pretty much leaves me with no one to root for, I just see things the way you see 'em.

[Saint John]

I like the Gators and will potentially be going to The BCS Championship Game if they make it. I just wish that the media would properly distribute the credit when it comes to that team. The system, the recruiting, and players like Percy Harvin (in the case of last year) all supercede Tim Tebow in terms of importance.

[Ehwmatt]

UConn starting CB Jasper Howard killed in on-campus stabbing: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4574560

Pretty sad... hours before, playing and winning a football game. Hours later... being stabbed and killed.

[Michigan Girl]

Yeah, and I guess yall will start believing in wrestling more when they stop scripting it, huh? Heres whats funny as hell: If one of your teams were in Florida's position right now the system would be fine but because it happens to be a school you dont care for the entire college football world is flawed! For fucks sake, its only been this way forever???? Why get pissed about it now??? Oh, thats right, because your team isnt in Florida's shoes right now...ya hypocritical bastards.
If you dont agree with college football you have 2 choices: 1) turn the shit off!!!! 2)write the NCAA and voice your displeasure. For once in your life get off a message board and make action happen!!!! In the meantime I will enjoy my BELOVED UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA FIGHTING MOTHERFUCKING GATORS being undefeated and if we drop from #1 who cares right now-its where we are at the end that matters and we control our own destiny....in fact I wouldnt mond a drop from #1...maybe it'll knock the bugs back outta this system! Get our ship righted again like last season when we lost to Ole Miss.

You're overreacting!!!

[Arkansas]

Yeah, and I guess yall will start believing in wrestling more when they stop scripting it, huh? Heres whats funny as hell: If one of your teams were in Florida's position right now the system would be fine but because it happens to be a school you dont care for the entire college football world is flawed! For fucks sake, its only been this way forever???? Why get pissed about it now??? Oh, thats right, because your team isnt in Florida's shoes right now...ya hypocritical bastards.
If you dont agree with college football you have 2 choices: 1) turn the shit off!!!! 2)write the NCAA and voice your displeasure. For once in your life get off a message board and make action happen!!!! In the meantime I will enjoy my BELOVED UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA FIGHTING MOTHERFUCKING GATORS being undefeated and if we drop from #1 who cares right now-its where we are at the end that matters and we control our own destiny....in fact I wouldnt mond a drop from #1...maybe it'll knock the bugs back outta this system! Get our ship righted again like last season when we lost to Ole Miss.

Good game last night. The Razorbacks almost got you. Tebow & crew must have had an off day, right? Seriously, I think Arkansas is a better team this year than most think. I also think that Urban Meyer said it best after the game when he said (para'd) "This is SEC football at it's best." I too can't imagine a tougher conference.


later~

[Enigma869]

Good game last night. The Razorbacks almost got you. Tebow & crew must have had an off day, right? Seriously, I think Arkansas is a better team this year than most think. I also think that Urban Meyer said it best after the game when he said (para'd) "This is SEC football at it's best." I too can't imagine a tougher conference.


later~

I don't watch nearly as much college football as I watch the NFL, but didn't Alabama (a team Florida is in direct competition with) beat Arkansas without much effort?

[Arkansas]

Good game last night. The Razorbacks almost got you. Tebow & crew must have had an off day, right? Seriously, I think Arkansas is a better team this year than most think. I also think that Urban Meyer said it best after the game when he said (para'd) "This is SEC football at it's best." I too can't imagine a tougher conference.


later~

I don't watch nearly as much college football as I watch the NFL, but didn't Alabama (a team Florida is in direct competition with) beat Arkansas without much effort?

Yeah, Alabama is probably the best team in the country right now. Arkansas, although not winning all games, have been taking it to everyone so far this year...except Alabama. The Crimson Tide rolled hard over the Razorbacks, 35-7.

Alabama is in the SEC West, and not in Florida's rotation this year, so that game won't happen until the SEC championship, if then.




later~

[ScarabGator]

Ark, in the spirit of the SEC and good sportsmanship the Hogs played extremely well and yes, I feel very fortunate that UF won. However with that being said Florida left a ton of points on the field. It seems each time we went to the red zone, which was very often we couldnt hold onto the ball, something very uncharacteristic of us. And really only one, maybe 2 were defense caused. Just mistakes. And the good thing about mistakes is they are fixable and with a terrific coach like Urban Meyer they will be fixed. I have no problem with being called an underdog again. Just like last year we werent expected to beat Bama nor Oklahoma....
Go Gators, Go SEC.

[ScarabGator]

Bama deserves it a lot more than Florida right now. Hopefully this will wake up the gators.

[ScarabGator]

BUT Florida is #1 in the first BCS poll......

[Enigma869]

BUT Florida is #1 in the first BCS poll......

Just one more example of why the BCS poll is sooooo fucking moronic! Two undefeated teams and one of them barely beats Arkansas with some serious help from the officials while the other team completely dismantles Arkansas! And people wonder why people don't take college football remotely seriously!

[ScarabGator]

Actually John people take College Football more serious than you think. Its only behind the NFL in popularity and quickly gaining. I wish I could remember where I saw this a while back but in a national poll the split between coolege and NFL football wasnt very far apart in terms of popularity....

[Ehwmatt]

Actually John people take College Football more serious than you think. Its only behind the NFL in popularity and quickly gaining. I wish I could remember where I saw this a while back but in a national poll the split between coolege and NFL football wasnt very far apart in terms of popularity....

I share John's feelings about the system and not having a horse in the race doesn't help matters (fuck Ohio State, honestly). But, if the trend in the NFL that's developing this year continues for a few years, e.g., a handful of dominant teams, a lot of bad teams, and a few in betweens, the NFL might lose a lot of fans fast. The number of truly terrible teams so far this year is astounding and discouraging.

[Enigma869]

But, if the trend in the NFL that's developing this year continues for a few years, e.g., a handful of dominant teams, a lot of bad teams, and a few in betweens, the NFL might lose a lot of fans fast. The number of truly terrible teams so far this year is astounding and discouraging.

Dude...rooting for the godawful Cleveland Browns has obviously clouded your judgement! This year is no different than any other year. There are twenty teams in the NFL (which is just about two thirds of the entire league) who have a .500 record or better. Last season, 21 teams finished the season with a .500 record or better. The season before that, only 17 teams (which is just about half the entire league)had a record of .500 or better. These numbers pretty much never change, my friend. As I said, your perception is WAY off. I promise you that the NFL will NEVER be in trouble.

I also don't agree with Gator's assessment that college football is as big as he thinks it is. It is certainly HUGE in the south (where he lives), so his perception (like yours living in a city with a shit NFL franchise) is that it's the biggest thing in the world. Hell, when I lived in the south and watched the sports reports on the news, I was fucking mortified. All those fuckers talk about are auto racing and college football. I'm just here to tell you that most of the country is definitely NOT that way. I'll never disagree that college football is huge in some places, but most of those places have no professional sports teams so the local college team becomes that community's identity. Even the cities who have professional teams...many of those pro teams were added as expansion teams over the past 30 years, so generations of people grew up not really identifying with a pro team, and thus college is king!

I can tell you this...the city of Boston has more colleges than any city on the planet, and there aren't 10 people here who give a fuck about any college sport. That is directly attributable to the fact that three of our four pro teams are all original teams to the league they're in and have been here since the world was flat. The fourth team (The Patriots) have been here for 50 long years and were also an original member of the AFL, so there is a whole lot of history here with the teams.

[Ehwmatt]

But, if the trend in the NFL that's developing this year continues for a few years, e.g., a handful of dominant teams, a lot of bad teams, and a few in betweens, the NFL might lose a lot of fans fast. The number of truly terrible teams so far this year is astounding and discouraging.

Dude...rooting for the godawful Cleveland Browns has obviously clouded your judgement! This year is no different than any other year. There are twenty teams in the NFL (which is just about two thirds of the entire league) who have a .500 record or better. Last season, 21 teams finished the season with a .500 record or better. The season before that, only 17 teams (which is just about half the entire league)had a record of .500 or better. These numbers pretty much never change, my friend. As I said, your perception is WAY off. I promise you that the NFL will NEVER be in trouble.

I agree the NFL will never get taken out by college football, short of some league-wide controversy on the level of steroids in the MLB.

The amount of .500 teams year-to-year is one thing, but do we so often have a whole handful of teams that would be lucky just to get 3 wins? Enlighten me.

[Enigma869]

The amount of .500 teams year-to-year is one thing, but do we so often have a whole handful of teams that would be lucky just to get 3 wins? Enlighten me.

That's precisely my point. The season isn't even half over yet, so making judgments based on less than half a season simply doesn't work. If you look at the past 20 seasons in the NFL, about 6 teams per year win fewer than 5 games (which is the mark of an awful team, in my opinion). The number of teams from season to season in that lower tier of the NFL almost NEVER changes. In some years it's 5 and in some years it's seven. In my opinion, the following teams will win fewer than 5 games this season:

1. St. Louis
2. Detroit
3. Washington
4. Kansas City (they might get to 5)
5. Cleveland
6. Tennessee
7. Tampa Bay

Again, it really doesn't change much from year to year. When the season ends, you'll have two or three teams with three wins or less (Tampa, Tennessee, and probably St. Louis) and then three or four more with 4 wins.

[Red13JoePa]

I like the Gators and will potentially be going to The BCS Championship Game if they make it. I just wish that the media would properly distribute the credit when it comes to that team. The system, the recruiting, and players like Percy Harvin (in the case of last year) all supercede Tim Tebow in terms of importance.

Yep a VERY good also undefeated Iowa team w/ road wins over prior unbeaten Penn State and 5-1 Wisconsin is criminally subjected to flying under the radar amidst the hype.

[Tomulator]

OSU with its first real miserable loss in many years. Pretty embarrassing. Pryor is just terrible, I hope they got a stud recruit or transfer in the pipeline.

I couldn't agree more!! Why was he such a highly sought after recruit??

I don't think he was as sought after as the people with blinders on in Columbus might have you believe. Lots of teams passed on him after scouting him hard, from what i understand.

I don't claim to be anywhere near a football expert, I wouldn't even say I'm particularly knowledgable, but I was telling people all last year that Pryor was a zero. All the fanboys, "OH NO! HE'S GONNA BE SICK! HE'S SUCH A GOOD ATHLETE! HE'S JUST RAW/YOUNG!"

He has no IQ, no passing talent, nothin besides rushing. A rush-first QB sucks when it really comes down to it. I was able to see that despite not being anywhere near a football expert because I don't give a shit about OSU and look at things objectively. Tressel is an incredibly classy guy and one of the only positives I find about OSU in any aspect, athletics or otherwise, but I think his time is just about up. He hasn't done anything wrong, but I think his routine has just gotten stale and predictable.

That may be so about Tress but, I wouldn't trade him. He represents what is RIGHT about college football. Hell, I won't give up on Pryor either. The kid's a TRUE soph., half way through his 2nd season.

I'm alot of things but...I'm no "fair weather fan"!

GO BUCKEYES!

[Ehwmatt]

OSU with its first real miserable loss in many years. Pretty embarrassing. Pryor is just terrible, I hope they got a stud recruit or transfer in the pipeline.

I couldn't agree more!! Why was he such a highly sought after recruit??

I don't think he was as sought after as the people with blinders on in Columbus might have you believe. Lots of teams passed on him after scouting him hard, from what i understand.

I don't claim to be anywhere near a football expert, I wouldn't even say I'm particularly knowledgable, but I was telling people all last year that Pryor was a zero. All the fanboys, "OH NO! HE'S GONNA BE SICK! HE'S SUCH A GOOD ATHLETE! HE'S JUST RAW/YOUNG!"

He has no IQ, no passing talent, nothin besides rushing. A rush-first QB sucks when it really comes down to it. I was able to see that despite not being anywhere near a football expert because I don't give a shit about OSU and look at things objectively. Tressel is an incredibly classy guy and one of the only positives I find about OSU in any aspect, athletics or otherwise, but I think his time is just about up. He hasn't done anything wrong, but I think his routine has just gotten stale and predictable.

That may be so about Tress but, I wouldn't trade him. He represents what is RIGHT about college football. Hell, I won't give up on Pryor either. The kid's a TRUE soph., half way through his 2nd season.

I'm alot of things but...I'm no "fair weather fan"!

GO BUCKEYES!

I agree he does represent what college football should be. I respect the man immensely and I don't give a shit for OSU, despite my lifelong residence in this state. It just seems things have gotten stale there. I think at a minimum, there needs to be a coaching staff turnover with Tressel at the helm.

As for Pryor, I'll be shocked if he ever amounts to anything decent in college or in the pros.

[Tomulator]

Stay tuned...Pryor's not "finished".

[Ehwmatt]

Florida disgusts me, they get every break known to man. TERRIBLE pass interference call and an even WORSE bad call on an unnecessary roughness! Not only was the play 20 yards away, but Florida's lineman was going to take Arkansas's defensive lineman head off.. he goes to protect himself and puts his shoulder down to cushion the blow and he's called for U.R?! What a ticky tack, cowardly call! Just because their in Florida they feel the need to bring Florida back in the game where they are clearly getting their ass kicked. This is a Tebow fest right here, nothing more.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4583642

SEC has suspended the crew involved in that game.

[ScarabGator]

Florida disgusts me, they get every break known to man. TERRIBLE pass interference call and an even WORSE bad call on an unnecessary roughness! Not only was the play 20 yards away, but Florida's lineman was going to take Arkansas's defensive lineman head off.. he goes to protect himself and puts his shoulder down to cushion the blow and he's called for U.R?! What a ticky tack, cowardly call! Just because their in Florida they feel the need to bring Florida back in the game where they are clearly getting their ass kicked. This is a Tebow fest right here, nothing more.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4583642

SEC has suspended the crew involved in that game.

blah blah blah, its not like arkansas made their damn field goals anyway.

[Maui Tom]

taking away the passion everyone may have for their teams....don't you all think it's been kind of an underwhelming season up to this point?

[Ehwmatt]

taking away the passion everyone may have for their teams....don't you all think it's been kind of an underwhelming season up to this point?

Terrible. The rankings have been in complete disarray, there don't seem to be a ton of playmaking stars making highlight reels week in and week out, and even a lot of highly touted games have ended in blowouts. Most of the close games I've seen have been on account of lots of sloppy mistakes and sloppy football, like last week's Florida game.

[RedWingFan]

Penn St @ Michigan!!!

Go Blue!!!!

[Michigan Girl]

Penn St @ Michigan!!!

Go Blue!!!!

Yeah, well uhhh!!!

Seriously, I hoped for a win and expected a much better game!!
Handshakes to Joepa, SJ and all the other whiney nitwits I may have missed!!!

Come to Peeennnnnn Staaaaaate!!!

[Glenn]

the way Florida and 'Bama played today, it wouldn't surprise me it Texas moved up to 2 or even 1.

[ScarabGator]

the way Florida and 'Bama played today, it wouldn't surprise me it Texas moved up to 2 or even 1.

yeah, keep smoking that pipe bro....
SEC competition is by far the bst in the country. The pollsters know it, the coaches around the country knows it. Thats why a win, especially on the road in a hostile home environment on a saturday night nationally televised game is huge no matter how sloppy.

[Glenn]

the way Florida and 'Bama played today, it wouldn't surprise me it Texas moved up to 2 or even 1.

yeah, keep smoking that pipe bro....
SEC competition is by far the bst in the country. The pollsters know it, the coaches around the country knows it. Thats why a win, especially on the road in a hostile home environment on a saturday night nationally televised game is huge no matter how sloppy.

I'm not the one smoking the pipe here....I also hate the Longhorns with every bone I have....I'm a suffering Texas A&M guy.

I'm thinking that the polls might have somethign to say about this weekend..That's all.