Perry's voice

[portland]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPUFLfGm ... PL&index=2

(Separate Ways '86 vid)

If I recall correctly, that bootleg tape was recorded at the wrong speed, or the speed got warped with age. It is actually a bit faster than it is in actuality, thus Steve's voice sounds a few steps higher. One reason why tapes aren't the best!

Who really fucking cares!!! If he can still sing than bring it on!! [....]

I'm sorry about your step-mother, that's awful; but there's no reason to be hostile. I was simply pointing out the poor quality of that bootleg, which many people use as evidence for their cause anyway or so it would seem. I am in no way implying that his voice in all actuality was worse for it; I was actually saying that he would sound WORSE on a bad, tinny bootleg than in-real-life or on a good quality boot. (But seriously, I'm really sorry that you're going through that right now. I know it doesn't sound like it, but I really am. *hugs* )

I was not directing my post to you...it just seems like we all look for things that are wrong with Perry's voice...and my point is that there are other things that can factor into a bad night....it's his own damn fault if he was not so good in the first place people would give him some room to f**k up!!!

Thanks for the kind words!

[madsplash]

Here's another example of him singing Open Arms on the ROR tour and all of the high notes are there and very clean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ir6qriqS ... re=related

I'm convinced that, as he said, he was singing differently on Frontiers and was using his lower range for a different sound. It's proven here in 1987 that he could still do OA in the original way. Classic stuff.

[Liquid_Drummer]

I for one believe there was damage to Perry's voice and it happened almost over night. I have heard reasons as to why but what does it matter if it is only rumor.

Listen to Separate ways on youtube where they played it the 1st time in early 82 at day on the green. This was not too long before they recorded Frontiers. In this video he had the same Escape sound, the rasp was much less and he didnt have to belt so much to hit higher notes. Fast forward to the recording of Only Solutions which was also in 82 but late 82 and you have the Frontiers voice in full effect. This change is dramatic and sudden. I am convinced that his change in voice was from damage of some kind. I love all stages of his voice but the change was just too sudden to have been natural IMHO.

The difference between 81 Houston and late 82 (only solutions) is night and day. 2nd puberty ?

Well then, expain this. This is 1986 or 87 from the ROR tour. It's played very fast, but his voice is as clear as ever and his range is as big as ever. The vocal acrobatics here are amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPUFLfGm ... PL&index=2

I think I've heard him claim that his singing around this time was for diferent effect and he choose to sing different things different ways.

My god that recording is fast and a little sharp so it is playing to fast as well. As to his voice there is a bit of a smoother sound to it however there is a reason he changes how he sings the part "love divides" differently. It is way easier to move around between to notes and waver as he does there than to hold the note. I would like to hear it at its correct speed. His voice sounding clean in his upper range anytime past 84 was rare. Just to be clear.. I love all stages of his voice but I think that he damaged it via over use or something else. If he started singing that way to change things up (I will never buy that) that it was not a smart move. Singing in anyway that is unnatural to your voice can do it incredible harm. Making yourself sound raspy is like vocal suicide for someone that was in his shoes.

[Arianddu]

Well then, expain this. This is 1986 or 87 from the ROR tour. It's played very fast, but his voice is as clear as ever and his range is as big as ever. The vocal acrobatics here are amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPUFLfGm ... PL&index=2

I think I've heard him claim that his singing around this time was for diferent effect and he choose to sing different things different ways.

Ugh ugh ugh I hate listening to this cut! Sure he hits the high notes, but all I can hear is someone straining to hear himself and get some power. At times he's shouting rather than singing, at other times the strain in his voice has my teeth on edge. HATE this, hate that he had to do it, hate to think what it was doing to his vocal chords.

[journey361]

I know for a fact that the purpose of change in vocals and also somewhat instrumental direction of Frontiers was on purpose. And believe it or not, it came from Perry himself. You see, He was interviewed during the making of that album and was asked why the change. Perry answered the question and i was impressed at the time. Perry said he had to instill belief to his bandmates that thier sound (him moreso) had to change with this album. Perry decided to bring a recording idea to bay. Perry and Journey recorded 3 songs off Frontiers in a hugh bathroom in a building. The songs that were recorded in a bathroom i can't remember. And Perry stated his voice had to change for the good because the public would be getting tired of the same sound vocally. Now, did his voice take damage sometime, yes, we know that, when, how, nobody knows.

[MrsPerry]

We just need a CD to shut the naysayers up already .

[Saint John]

We just need a CD to shut the naysayers up already .

Incorrect. The only true test of one's voice is singing live. Any Tom, Dick or Perry can have perfect pitch in a studio these days. Multiple takes and pitch correction can make anyone sound good...except me.

[portland]

We just need a CD to shut the naysayers up already .

Incorrect. The only true test of one's voice is singing live. Any Tom, Dick or Perry can have perfect pitch in a studio these days. Multiple takes and pitch correction can make anyone sound good...except me.

I know I don't like the sound of you typing....I can't imagine you singing!!!

[*Laura]

The only true test of one's voice is singing live.

I think Mr.P is very aware of that. Don't you think he's ready for that challenge? I think he wouldn't be working on this solo project otherwise.

[Saint John]

The only true test of one's voice is singing live.

I think Mr.P is very aware of that. Don't you think he's ready for that challenge? I think he wouldn't be working on this solo project otherwise.

He wasn't ready to sing live circa TBF (and never had any intentions of doing so), yet he still recorded the album.

[steveo777]

We just need a CD to shut the naysayers up already .

Incorrect. The only true test of one's voice is singing live. Any Tom, Dick or Perry can have perfect pitch in a studio these days. Multiple takes and pitch correction can make anyone sound good...except me.

Why couldn't they fix Whitney then?

[Saint John]

We just need a CD to shut the naysayers up already .

Incorrect. The only true test of one's voice is singing live. Any Tom, Dick or Perry can have perfect pitch in a studio these days. Multiple takes and pitch correction can make anyone sound good...except me.

Why couldn't they fix Whitney then?

The vocal downside of crack must be Pro Tools proof.

[G.I.Jim]

The only true test of one's voice is singing live.

I think Mr.P is very aware of that. Don't you think he's ready for that challenge? I think he wouldn't be working on this solo project otherwise.

He wasn't ready to sing live circa TBF (and never had any intentions of doing so), yet he still recorded the album.

Dan, take your sassypants off and throw those fuckers away already! What's it gonna take... Steve singing to you in the shower? I do pick on him, but I have no doubt that he still has an amazing voice. Even on his last recording with Pack, I could hear it! He may have lost range, but he's still SMFP, and he's still pitch-perfect. He doesn't need auto-tune on THOSE pipes.

Now if we could just HEAR those pipes...

[Saint John]

The only true test of one's voice is singing live.

I think Mr.P is very aware of that. Don't you think he's ready for that challenge? I think he wouldn't be working on this solo project otherwise.

He wasn't ready to sing live circa TBF (and never had any intentions of doing so), yet he still recorded the album.

Dan, take your sassypants off and throw those fuckers away already! What's it gonna take... Steve singing to you in the shower? I do pick on him, but I have no doubt that he still has an amazing voice. Even on his last recording with Pack, I could hear it! He may have lost range, but he's still SMFP, and he's still pitch-perfect. He doesn't need auto-tune on THOSE pipes.

Now if we could just HEAR those pipes...

He wasn't vocally ready or able to tour in 1996. Hence, the bullshit excuses. I have no problem with the rest of your post.

[madsplash]

The only true test of one's voice is singing live.

I think Mr.P is very aware of that. Don't you think he's ready for that challenge? I think he wouldn't be working on this solo project otherwise.

He wasn't ready to sing live circa TBF (and never had any intentions of doing so), yet he still recorded the album.

Dan, take your sassypants off and throw those fuckers away already! What's it gonna take... Steve singing to you in the shower? I do pick on him, but I have no doubt that he still has an amazing voice. Even on his last recording with Pack, I could hear it! He may have lost range, but he's still SMFP, and he's still pitch-perfect. He doesn't need auto-tune on THOSE pipes.

Now if we could just HEAR those pipes...

He wasn't vocally ready or able to tour in 1996. Hence, the bullshit excuses. I have no problem with the rest of your post.

Here we go again. Get a fucking clue, dude.

[portland]

The only true test of one's voice is singing live.

I think Mr.P is very aware of that. Don't you think he's ready for that challenge? I think he wouldn't be working on this solo project otherwise.

He wasn't ready to sing live circa TBF (and never had any intentions of doing so), yet he still recorded the album.

Dan, take your sassypants off and throw those fuckers away already! What's it gonna take... Steve singing to you in the shower? I do pick on him, but I have no doubt that he still has an amazing voice. Even on his last recording with Pack, I could hear it! He may have lost range, but he's still SMFP, and he's still pitch-perfect. He doesn't need auto-tune on THOSE pipes.

Now if we could just HEAR those pipes...

He wasn't vocally ready or able to tour in 1996. Hence, the bullshit excuses. I have no problem with the rest of your post.

Here we go again. Get a fucking clue, dude.

Yes what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[WykkedSensation]

The only true test of one's voice is singing live.

I think Mr.P is very aware of that. Don't you think he's ready for that challenge? I think he wouldn't be working on this solo project otherwise.

He wasn't ready to sing live circa TBF (and never had any intentions of doing so), yet he still recorded the album.

Dan, take your sassypants off and throw those fuckers away already! What's it gonna take... Steve singing to you in the shower? I do pick on him, but I have no doubt that he still has an amazing voice. Even on his last recording with Pack, I could hear it! He may have lost range, but he's still SMFP, and he's still pitch-perfect. He doesn't need auto-tune on THOSE pipes.

Now if we could just HEAR those pipes...

He wasn't vocally ready or able to tour in 1996. Hence, the bullshit excuses. I have no problem with the rest of your post.

Here we go again. Get a fucking clue, dude.

Yes what he said ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What THEY said

[Escape81]

Just my opinion.... but I can't listen to Trial By Fire and conclude that Steve could still sing the old songs anywhere like he used to..... he's my favorite singer, but I'm glad the band moved on with Steve Augeri. Doesnt take anything away from Steve P., though! He had his time and he used it well.