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Postby Don » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:59 am

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brywool wrote:Wow, after ripping the audio from the DVDs and listening with headphones- Gotta agree with Matt. The sound isn't great. GREAT performance, but the sound is definitely not as good as it could've been. A bit muddy. Still cool though.


Headphones are the ultimate test. I can't take all the credit though for pointing out the sound issues, plenty of others have voiced that critique as well. It's just a very disappointing mix.


The whole point I was hoping to see this go to Blu-Ray is for the uncompressed audio. Judging by the sound on my PB version, I'm really hoping this is just Shirley tweeking shit and the originally recorded audio is still available to include on a more enhanced version. This just doesn't sound right, sort of muffled like the way NWA sounds on the Revelation Disc. It's not a movie so video is secondary here. Just give us the original audio on Blu-Ray and all will be good.
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Postby Chubby321 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:02 am

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Gunbot wrote:I don't deny Journey sold a lot of DVDs but I don't see their name anywhere on this list.

US DVD Sales Chart for Week Ending Oct 11, 2009

1 (1) Monsters vs. Aliens 720,831
2 (-) Year One 348,954
3 (-) Bones: The Complete Fourth Season 215,745
4 (3) X-Men Origins: Wolverine 186,911
5 (-) My Life in Ruins 135,012
6 (2) The Wizard of Oz 123,839
7 (4) Ghosts of Girlfriends Past 105,458
8 (15) Corpse Bride, The 105,313
9 (7) Hannah Montana The Movie 95,870
10 (-) Trick 'r Treat 94,717
11 (11) Edward Scissorhands 91,185
12 (22) Dr. Seuss - Green Eggs and Ham and Other Favorites 85,851
13 (18) Spookley the Square Pumpkin 82,751
14 (20) Clifford the Big Red Dog: Clifford's Big Halloween 80,445
15 (-) Break-Up, The 77,201
16 (8) Observe and Report 74,101
17 (17) Thomas & Friends: Percy's Ghostly Trick 70,641
18 (-) The Sandlot 69,272 -.-% - $542,344
19 (-) Matilda 66,461 -.-% - $492,476
20 (25) Race to Witch Mountain 65,451
21 (29) Bring It On: Fight to the Finish 61,487
22 (-) Dr. Seuss' The Cat in the Hat 61,054
23 (5) Superman/Batman: Public Enemies 59,108 -
24 (9) Barbie and the Three Musketeers 58,676
25 (27) Coraline 56,369
26 (19) Scooby Doo! The Mystery Begins 54,062
27 (-) Gran Torino 52,404
28 (6) How I Met Your Mother: Season Four 52,216
29 (-) Sons of Anarchy - Season One 49,305
30 (10) Grey's Anatomy: The Complete Fifth Season 49,233


I don't see any music DVDs in your list. Different category.


This is an overall sales list - All catagories. Thats why you see movies, TV Shows, etc. on the list.


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Postby Don » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:15 am

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Gunbot wrote:I don't deny Journey sold a lot of DVDs but I don't see their name anywhere on this list.

US DVD Sales Chart for Week Ending Oct 11, 2009

1 (1) Monsters vs. Aliens 720,831
2 (-) Year One 348,954
3 (-) Bones: The Complete Fourth Season 215,745
4 (3) X-Men Origins: Wolverine 186,911
5 (-) My Life in Ruins 135,012
6 (2) The Wizard of Oz 123,839
7 (4) Ghosts of Girlfriends Past 105,458
8 (15) Corpse Bride, The 105,313
9 (7) Hannah Montana The Movie 95,870
10 (-) Trick 'r Treat 94,717
11 (11) Edward Scissorhands 91,185
12 (22) Dr. Seuss - Green Eggs and Ham and Other Favorites 85,851
13 (18) Spookley the Square Pumpkin 82,751
14 (20) Clifford the Big Red Dog: Clifford's Big Halloween 80,445
15 (-) Break-Up, The 77,201
16 (8) Observe and Report 74,101
17 (17) Thomas & Friends: Percy's Ghostly Trick 70,641
18 (-) The Sandlot 69,272 -.-% - $542,344
19 (-) Matilda 66,461 -.-% - $492,476
20 (25) Race to Witch Mountain 65,451
21 (29) Bring It On: Fight to the Finish 61,487
22 (-) Dr. Seuss' The Cat in the Hat 61,054
23 (5) Superman/Batman: Public Enemies 59,108 -
24 (9) Barbie and the Three Musketeers 58,676
25 (27) Coraline 56,369
26 (19) Scooby Doo! The Mystery Begins 54,062
27 (-) Gran Torino 52,404
28 (6) How I Met Your Mother: Season Four 52,216
29 (-) Sons of Anarchy - Season One 49,305
30 (10) Grey's Anatomy: The Complete Fifth Season 49,233


I don't see any music DVDs in your list. Different category.


This is an overall sales list - All catagories. Thats why you see movies, TV Shows, etc. on the list.


Whenever I post something like this, I always link it.


http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/w ... isweek.php
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Postby Chubby321 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:25 am

Gunbot wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:I don't deny Journey sold a lot of DVDs but I don't see their name anywhere on this list.

US DVD Sales Chart for Week Ending Oct 11, 2009

1 (1) Monsters vs. Aliens 720,831
2 (-) Year One 348,954
3 (-) Bones: The Complete Fourth Season 215,745
4 (3) X-Men Origins: Wolverine 186,911
5 (-) My Life in Ruins 135,012
6 (2) The Wizard of Oz 123,839
7 (4) Ghosts of Girlfriends Past 105,458
8 (15) Corpse Bride, The 105,313
9 (7) Hannah Montana The Movie 95,870
10 (-) Trick 'r Treat 94,717
11 (11) Edward Scissorhands 91,185
12 (22) Dr. Seuss - Green Eggs and Ham and Other Favorites 85,851
13 (18) Spookley the Square Pumpkin 82,751
14 (20) Clifford the Big Red Dog: Clifford's Big Halloween 80,445
15 (-) Break-Up, The 77,201
16 (8) Observe and Report 74,101
17 (17) Thomas & Friends: Percy's Ghostly Trick 70,641
18 (-) The Sandlot 69,272 -.-% - $542,344
19 (-) Matilda 66,461 -.-% - $492,476
20 (25) Race to Witch Mountain 65,451
21 (29) Bring It On: Fight to the Finish 61,487
22 (-) Dr. Seuss' The Cat in the Hat 61,054
23 (5) Superman/Batman: Public Enemies 59,108 -
24 (9) Barbie and the Three Musketeers 58,676
25 (27) Coraline 56,369
26 (19) Scooby Doo! The Mystery Begins 54,062
27 (-) Gran Torino 52,404
28 (6) How I Met Your Mother: Season Four 52,216
29 (-) Sons of Anarchy - Season One 49,305
30 (10) Grey's Anatomy: The Complete Fifth Season 49,233


I don't see any music DVDs in your list. Different category.


This is an overall sales list - All catagories. Thats why you see movies, TV Shows, etc. on the list.


Whenever I post something like this, I always link it.


http://www.the-numbers.com/dvd/charts/w ... isweek.php



Different category, none of the items below are in that list.

Best Sellers-Video
10/14/2009, 6:39 p.m. CTThe Associated Press The Associated Press
(AP) — Weekly charts for the nation's most popular videos as they appear in next week's issue of Billboard magazine. Reprinted with permission:
(Compiled from a national sample of sales reports)

1. "Live In Manila," Journey.
2. "Video Greatest Hits: HIStory," Michael Jackson.
3. "Celebration: The Video Collection," Madonna.
4. "Number Ones," Michael Jackson.
5. "Live In Bucharest: The Dangerous Tour," Michael Jackson.
7. "Together," Gaither Vocal Band And Ernie Haase & Signature Sound.
8. "Wide Open: Live & More!" Jason Aldean.
9. "Kissology: The Ultimate Kiss Collection Vol. 1 1974-1977," Kiss.
10. "HIStory On Film: Volume II," Michael Jackson.

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Postby Enigma869 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:30 am

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Different category, none of the items below are in that list.

Best Sellers-Video
10/14/2009, 6:39 p.m. CTThe Associated Press The Associated Press
(AP) — Weekly charts for the nation's most popular videos as they appear in next week's issue of Billboard magazine. Reprinted with permission:
(Compiled from a national sample of sales reports)

1. "Live In Manila," Journey.
2. "Video Greatest Hits: HIStory," Michael Jackson.
3. "Celebration: The Video Collection," Madonna.
4. "Number Ones," Michael Jackson.
5. "Live In Bucharest: The Dangerous Tour," Michael Jackson.
7. "Together," Gaither Vocal Band And Ernie Haase & Signature Sound.
8. "Wide Open: Live & More!" Jason Aldean.
9. "Kissology: The Ultimate Kiss Collection Vol. 1 1974-1977," Kiss.
10. "HIStory On Film: Volume II," Michael Jackson.

Copyright 2009, Nielsen SoundScan, Inc.
Further information is available at Billboard Online on the World Wide Web at http://www.billboard.com.


Obviously by the DVD's on that list, it's music only. Also, given selections 7 and 8, it looks like anyone lands on this list at some point. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile :shock:

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Postby Don » Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:51 am

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Best Sellers-Video
10/14/2009, 6:39 p.m. CTThe Associated Press The Associated Press
(AP) — Weekly charts for the nation's most popular videos as they appear in next week's issue of Billboard magazine. Reprinted with permission:
(Compiled from a national sample of sales reports)

1. "Live In Manila," Journey.
2. "Video Greatest Hits: HIStory," Michael Jackson.
3. "Celebration: The Video Collection," Madonna.
4. "Number Ones," Michael Jackson.
5. "Live In Bucharest: The Dangerous Tour," Michael Jackson.
7. "Together," Gaither Vocal Band And Ernie Haase & Signature Sound.
8. "Wide Open: Live & More!" Jason Aldean.
9. "Kissology: The Ultimate Kiss Collection Vol. 1 1974-1977," Kiss.
10. "HIStory On Film: Volume II," Michael Jackson.

Copyright 2009, Nielsen SoundScan, Inc.
Further information is available at Billboard Online on the World Wide Web at http://www.billboard.com.


The list I linked is an overall list. That's why you see TV shows along with movies. Billboard has various charts broken into different catagories (Health and fitness, Sports and recreation, music videos, etc.). The list you are showing is music Videos only. If a DVD sold over 50,000 copies, it would be on the list I posted above, regardless of catagory.
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Postby Don » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:02 pm

To sell 800,000 DVDs, you would have to print that many knowing if the didn't sell, you would take a huge financial fall. I don't think that happened. Unless each store had given the title the same amount of shelfspace that they gave Monters Vs Aliens, it's not even plausible. I think a Typo was made somewhere.

Moving that many DVDs, Journey's name would be on every a DVD/Music site out there as that would make it 8x Platinum. (100,000 = Platinum in music DVD sales)
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Postby Jana » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:12 pm

Gunbot wrote:To sell 800,000 DVDs, you would have to print that many knowing if the didn't sell, you would take a huge financial fall. I don't think that happened. Unless each store had given the title the same amount of shelfspace that they gave Monters Vs Aliens, it's not even plausible. I think a Typo was made somewhere.

Moving that many DVDs, Journey's name would be on every a DVD/Music site out there as that would make it 8x Platinum. (100,000 = Platinum in music DVD sales)


It's mixed up and taken from the 800,000 Revelation number that was out there for a while and pasted onto different articles I feel almost sure, not positive. Too coincidental that number.
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Postby Don » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:17 pm

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Gunbot wrote:To sell 800,000 DVDs, you would have to print that many knowing if the didn't sell, you would take a huge financial fall. I don't think that happened. Unless each store had given the title the same amount of shelfspace that they gave Monters Vs Aliens, it's not even plausible. I think a Typo was made somewhere.

Moving that many DVDs, Journey's name would be on every a DVD/Music site out there as that would make it 8x Platinum. (100,000 = Platinum in music DVD sales)


It's mixed up and taken from the 800,000 Revelation number that was out there for a while and pasted onto different articles I feel almost sure, not positive. Too coincidental that number.


I'm sure the DVD is selling very well and has a great chance of going platinum.

This reminds me of Journey touting on the their website about DSB being the most downloaded song ever.
Then you see in the actual article, they're talking catalog tracks, not overall downloads (it's currently at #42, overall)

To the band's credit, the 800,000 DVDs sold number didn't make a headline on their website.
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Postby Chubby321 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:37 pm

i can't vouch for the validity of that article that's why I linked it. Now check this out.


"Best Sellers-Video
10/14/2009, 6:39 p.m. CTThe Associated Press The Associated Press
(AP) — Weekly charts for the nation's most popular videos as they appear in next week's issue of Billboard magazine. Reprinted with permission:
(Compiled from a national sample of sales reports)

1. "Live In Manila," Journey.
2. "Video Greatest Hits: HIStory," Michael Jackson.
3. "Celebration: The Video Collection," Madonna.
4. "Number Ones," Michael Jackson.
5. "Live In Bucharest: The Dangerous Tour," Michael Jackson.
7. "Together," Gaither Vocal Band And Ernie Haase & Signature Sound.
8. "Wide Open: Live & More!" Jason Aldean.
9. "Kissology: The Ultimate Kiss Collection Vol. 1 1974-1977," Kiss.
10. "HIStory On Film: Volume II," Michael Jackson.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/-10 ... 0498.story

After his record-breaking chart week, the late Michael Jackson will continue to shake up the charts next week, too. According to SoundScan's Building Chart data, more than 110,000 Jackson albums were purchased during the first two days of the new tracking week (June 29-30).

http://carey2.blogspot.com/2009/07/mich ... harts.html

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/161507 ... hael.jhtml

Jackson himself has a record eight out of the top 10, while a Jackson 5 compilation also finds its way into the upper tier. The King of Pop's "Number Ones" will fittingly lead the pack at No. 1 with 108,000 (an increase of 2,340%) while "The Essential Michael Jackson" and
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Postby Don » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:05 pm

Chubby321 wrote:i can't vouch for the validity of that article that's why I linked it. Now check this out.


"Best Sellers-Video
10/14/2009, 6:39 p.m. CTThe Associated Press The Associated Press
(AP) — Weekly charts for the nation's most popular videos as they appear in next week's issue of Billboard magazine. Reprinted with permission:
(Compiled from a national sample of sales reports)

1. "Live In Manila," Journey.
2. "Video Greatest Hits: HIStory," Michael Jackson.
3. "Celebration: The Video Collection," Madonna.
4. "Number Ones," Michael Jackson.
5. "Live In Bucharest: The Dangerous Tour," Michael Jackson.
7. "Together," Gaither Vocal Band And Ernie Haase & Signature Sound.
8. "Wide Open: Live & More!" Jason Aldean.
9. "Kissology: The Ultimate Kiss Collection Vol. 1 1974-1977," Kiss.
10. "HIStory On Film: Volume II," Michael Jackson.

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/-10 ... 0498.story

After his record-breaking chart week, the late Michael Jackson will continue to shake up the charts next week, too. According to SoundScan's Building Chart data, more than 110,000 Jackson albums were purchased during the first two days of the new tracking week (June 29-30).

http://carey2.blogspot.com/2009/07/mich ... harts.html

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/161507 ... hael.jhtml

Jackson himself has a record eight out of the top 10, while a Jackson 5 compilation also finds its way into the upper tier. The King of Pop's "Number Ones" will fittingly lead the pack at No. 1 with 108,000 (an increase of 2,340%) while "The Essential Michael Jackson" and


Dying is one hell of a marketing tool to sell albums.
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Postby Chubby321 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:41 pm

Enigma869 wrote:By the way, nice haircut for your boy "Arny". I just tipped off CNN so look for Larry King's call next week!


Thanks for commenting on the haircut. :wink:
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Postby Chubby321 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:11 am

You guys are right about that 800K......

http://www.journeymusic.com/pages/news/ ... usic-chart

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbe ... mID=127659

http://www.bravewords.com/news/124218

http://www.antimusic.com/news/09/sep/28 ... iday.shtml

http://www.musicpix.net/home/content/jo ... -dvd-chart

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_Live_in_Manila

The only one that mentioned MOA.
http://www.classicrockrevisited.com/NEWS.htm



But is it safe to say that MOA reached platinum on it's first week?

Not only debuted at number one on the music DVD chart, but it actually had the second best DVD debut sales week of the year.


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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:17 am

Gunbot wrote:To sell 800,000 DVDs, you would have to print that many knowing if the didn't sell, you would take a huge financial fall. I don't think that happened. Unless each store had given the title the same amount of shelfspace that they gave Monters Vs Aliens, it's not even plausible. I think a Typo was made somewhere.

Moving that many DVDs, Journey's name would be on every a DVD/Music site out there as that would make it 8x Platinum. (100,000 = Platinum in music DVD sales)


It doesn't say they sold 800,000 DVDs. The press release says that by the time of the Manila concert, 800,000 copies of Revelation had been sold.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:19 am

Chubby321 wrote:You guys are right about that 800K......


Reading comprehension, Chubbster. :wink:

All of those say that by the time of the Manila concert, 800,000 copies of Revelation had been sold.
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Postby Chubby321 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:26 am

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Chubby321 wrote:You guys are right about that 800K......


Reading comprehension, Chubbster. :wink:

All of those say that by the time of the Manila concert, 800,000 copies of Revelation had been sold.



Below was the first article that I saw, if you're paying attention to my posts. But Jana and Gunbot said that there might be a typo. So i looked and I found all those articles that I posted a few minutes ago. Did you see the word Revelation in that article below?

JOURNEY DVD SEES HUGE SALES
This news is brought to you by VH1 Radio's Dave Basner

Nearly 30-thousand people went to see Journey when they played in the Philippines earlier this year, but it seems there were plenty of other fans out there that wished they could be there. For those folks, the band released the concert on DVD and 800-thousand Journey fans went out to buy that disc. Live in Manila not only debuted at number one on the music DVD chart, but it actually had the second best DVD debut sales week of the year. Learn more about the disc and the band at JourneyMusic.com.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:36 am

Chubby321 wrote:This was the first article that I saw if you're paying attention to my posts. But Jana and Gunbot said that there might be a typo. So i looked and I found all those articles that I posted a few minutes ago.

JOURNEY DVD SEES HUGE SALES
This news is brought to you by VH1 Radio's Dave Basner

Nearly 30-thousand people went to see Journey when they played in the Philippines earlier this year, but it seems there were plenty of other fans out there that wished they could be there. For those folks, the band released the concert on DVD and 800-thousand Journey fans went out to buy that disc. Live in Manila not only debuted at number one on the music DVD chart, but it actually had the second best DVD debut sales week of the year. Learn more about the disc and the band at JourneyMusic.com.


That's misinformation on the part of VH1 Radio. They took the information to write that blurb from the band's official press release, which says 800,000 copies of Revelation were sold at the time of the Manila concert. Wires must have gotten crossed somewhere along the line, and VH1 Radio misinterpreted that and reported 800,000 copies of the DVD were sold.
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Postby Chubby321 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:46 am

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Chubby321 wrote:This was the first article that I saw if you're paying attention to my posts. But Jana and Gunbot said that there might be a typo. So i looked and I found all those articles that I posted a few minutes ago.

JOURNEY DVD SEES HUGE SALES
This news is brought to you by VH1 Radio's Dave Basner

Nearly 30-thousand people went to see Journey when they played in the Philippines earlier this year, but it seems there were plenty of other fans out there that wished they could be there. For those folks, the band released the concert on DVD and 800-thousand Journey fans went out to buy that disc. Live in Manila not only debuted at number one on the music DVD chart, but it actually had the second best DVD debut sales week of the year. Learn more about the disc and the band at JourneyMusic.com.


That's misinformation on the part of VH1 Radio. They took the information to write that blurb from the band's official press release, which says 800,000 copies of Revelation were sold at the time of the Manila concert. Wires must have gotten crossed somewhere along the line, and VH1 Radio misinterpreted that and reported 800,000 copies of the DVD were sold.


Obviously there was a mistake, but that first article I saw did not mentioned the Revelation album at all but you're questioning my reading comprehension.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:19 am

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Chubby321 wrote:This was the first article that I saw if you're paying attention to my posts. But Jana and Gunbot said that there might be a typo. So i looked and I found all those articles that I posted a few minutes ago.

JOURNEY DVD SEES HUGE SALES
This news is brought to you by VH1 Radio's Dave Basner

Nearly 30-thousand people went to see Journey when they played in the Philippines earlier this year, but it seems there were plenty of other fans out there that wished they could be there. For those folks, the band released the concert on DVD and 800-thousand Journey fans went out to buy that disc. Live in Manila not only debuted at number one on the music DVD chart, but it actually had the second best DVD debut sales week of the year. Learn more about the disc and the band at JourneyMusic.com.


That's misinformation on the part of VH1 Radio. They took the information to write that blurb from the band's official press release, which says 800,000 copies of Revelation were sold at the time of the Manila concert. Wires must have gotten crossed somewhere along the line, and VH1 Radio misinterpreted that and reported 800,000 copies of the DVD were sold.


Obviously there was a mistake, but that first article I saw did not mentioned the Revelation album at all but you're questioning my reading comprehension.


I'm not questioning your reading comprehension. I'm trying to clear something up. If I'm questioning anything, it's your understanding of press releases. Any info that a news organization has about the DVD topping the sales charts the first week came from the band's press release. What they choose to include or not include from the press release is up to them. If they want to add some commentary, they can do that too - and that's where VH1 got their info wrong.
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Postby ttango1 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:47 pm

Does it really matter, they got #1 at something. That's cool with me and I'm sure cool with them too. It just shows, even in limited market and in a down economy, there are fans out there buying enough to make it #1 in a category.

Even with MJJ gone, his numbers for this Associated Press article is a number 2. For Journey to do what they did is remarkable.
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Postby Author2 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:00 pm

ttango1 wrote:Does it really matter, they got #1 at something. That's cool with me and I'm sure cool with them too. It just shows, even in limited market and in a down economy, there are fans out there buying enough to make it #1 in a category.

Even with MJJ gone, his numbers for this Associated Press article is a number 2. For Journey to do what they did is remarkable.



That's good. No it doesn't matter, but then they go into comparing it with their former "famed frontman, Steve Perry's," release at a point when he wasn't even around, with the replacement singer who has been said to be singing a "lion's share of the greatest hit." I guess that's to be, huh? Steve Perry hasn't actually performed with the band in over 22 years. No rerecords with Steve Perry for he sang on those hits that have sold over 40 million. By the way, what are the numbers and when was MJ's first release? Sorry!
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Postby ttango1 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:50 am

Author2 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:Does it really matter, they got #1 at something. That's cool with me and I'm sure cool with them too. It just shows, even in limited market and in a down economy, there are fans out there buying enough to make it #1 in a category.

Even with MJJ gone, his numbers for this Associated Press article is a number 2. For Journey to do what they did is remarkable.



That's good. No it doesn't matter, but then they go into comparing it with their former "famed frontman, Steve Perry's," release at a point when he wasn't even around, with the replacement singer who has been said to be singing a "lion's share of the greatest hit." I guess that's to be, huh? Steve Perry hasn't actually performed with the band in over 22 years. No rerecords with Steve Perry for he sang on those hits that have sold over 40 million. By the way, what are the numbers and when was MJ's first release? Sorry!

Knack for the obvious. Past tense is what you said. Present tense has Journey with a #1 in a category. It is what it is. Steve not doing anything at all is his choice and his alone.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:14 am

ttango1 wrote:
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ttango1 wrote:Does it really matter, they got #1 at something. That's cool with me and I'm sure cool with them too. It just shows, even in limited market and in a down economy, there are fans out there buying enough to make it #1 in a category.

Even with MJJ gone, his numbers for this Associated Press article is a number 2. For Journey to do what they did is remarkable.



That's good. No it doesn't matter, but then they go into comparing it with their former "famed frontman, Steve Perry's," release at a point when he wasn't even around, with the replacement singer who has been said to be singing a "lion's share of the greatest hit." I guess that's to be, huh? Steve Perry hasn't actually performed with the band in over 22 years. No rerecords with Steve Perry for he sang on those hits that have sold over 40 million. By the way, what are the numbers and when was MJ's first release? Sorry!

Knack for the obvious. Past tense is what you said. Present tense has Journey with a #1 in a category. It is what it is. Steve not doing anything at all is his choice and his alone.


Nobody's doing anything. Journey is taking 2010 off from touring. We should get a new album though. Ya never know, the band and Pineda could say it was a fun couple years and we accomplished something, but it's time. AP could probably live for the rest of his days on what he earned the last couple years. :D
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:19 am

steveo777 wrote:Nobody's doing anything. Journey is taking 2010 off from touring. We should get a new album though.


NO CHANCE they release an album in 2010 and don't tour behind it. Either the album is out in 2010 and they tour behind it in 2010, or it comes out in 2011 and they tour behind it in 2011. There's no way they release an album in 2010 and don't do an album tour.

(unless the album comes out in late 2010 and the tour starts in early 2011 :wink: )
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:26 am

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steveo777 wrote:Nobody's doing anything. Journey is taking 2010 off from touring. We should get a new album though.


NO CHANCE they release an album in 2010 and don't tour behind it. Either the album is out in 2010 and they tour behind it in 2010, or it comes out in 2011 and they tour behind it in 2011. There's no way they release an album in 2010 and don't do an album tour.

(unless the album comes out in late 2010 and the tour starts in early 2011 :wink: )


I suspect they head into the studio next month since AP is coming back to the states to appear as a guest to represent Filipino heritage night at Golden State. So, what's it take 3-4 months to release an album? As you stated, I doubt it will be out before late 2010 at the earliest.
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Postby Jana » Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:36 am

steveo777 wrote:
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steveo777 wrote:Nobody's doing anything. Journey is taking 2010 off from touring. We should get a new album though.


NO CHANCE they release an album in 2010 and don't tour behind it. Either the album is out in 2010 and they tour behind it in 2010, or it comes out in 2011 and they tour behind it in 2011. There's no way they release an album in 2010 and don't do an album tour.

(unless the album comes out in late 2010 and the tour starts in early 2011 :wink: )


I suspect they head into the studio next month since AP is coming back to the states to appear as a guest to represent Filipino heritage night at Golden State. So, what's it take 3-4 months to release an album? As you stated, I doubt it will be out before late 2010 at the earliest.


Well, I hope it's not next month. Arnel's voice sounds tired. He shouldn't be doing all these appearances straight off the end of a tour and should be a monk in his house from now on resting his voice if they're really going to record in November in a month. I have a feeling they're not recording in November since they're not touring next year, but what do I know.
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Postby Author2 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:08 pm

ttango1 wrote:
Author2 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:Does it really matter, they got #1 at something. That's cool with me and I'm sure cool with them too. It just shows, even in limited market and in a down economy, there are fans out there buying enough to make it #1 in a category.

Even with MJJ gone, his numbers for this Associated Press article is a number 2. For Journey to do what they did is remarkable.



That's good. No it doesn't matter, but then they go into comparing it with their former "famed frontman, Steve Perry's," release at a point when he wasn't even around, with the replacement singer who has been said to be singing a "lion's share of the greatest hit." I guess that's to be, huh? Steve Perry hasn't actually performed with the band in over 22 years. No rerecords with Steve Perry for he sang on those hits that have sold over 40 million. By the way, what are the numbers and when was MJ's first release? Sorry!

Knack for the obvious. Past tense is what you said. Present tense has Journey with a #1 in a category. It is what it is. Steve not doing anything at all is his choice and his alone.


Article did not mention rerecords included in #1 DVD, but it went on to cite other things. Just felt like keeping things in perspective. Would that be truth or consequences?
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Postby steveo777 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:54 am

Author2 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
Author2 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:Does it really matter, they got #1 at something. That's cool with me and I'm sure cool with them too. It just shows, even in limited market and in a down economy, there are fans out there buying enough to make it #1 in a category.

Even with MJJ gone, his numbers for this Associated Press article is a number 2. For Journey to do what they did is remarkable.



That's good. No it doesn't matter, but then they go into comparing it with their former "famed frontman, Steve Perry's," release at a point when he wasn't even around, with the replacement singer who has been said to be singing a "lion's share of the greatest hit." I guess that's to be, huh? Steve Perry hasn't actually performed with the band in over 22 years. No rerecords with Steve Perry for he sang on those hits that have sold over 40 million. By the way, what are the numbers and when was MJ's first release? Sorry!

Knack for the obvious. Past tense is what you said. Present tense has Journey with a #1 in a category. It is what it is. Steve not doing anything at all is his choice and his alone.


Article did not mention rerecords included in #1 DVD, but it went on to cite other things. Just felt like keeping things in perspective. Would that be truth or consequences?


WTF is your point exactly?
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Postby Since 78 » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:28 am

steveo777 wrote:
Author2 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
Author2 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:Does it really matter, they got #1 at something. That's cool with me and I'm sure cool with them too. It just shows, even in limited market and in a down economy, there are fans out there buying enough to make it #1 in a category.

Even with MJJ gone, his numbers for this Associated Press article is a number 2. For Journey to do what they did is remarkable.



That's good. No it doesn't matter, but then they go into comparing it with their former "famed frontman, Steve Perry's," release at a point when he wasn't even around, with the replacement singer who has been said to be singing a "lion's share of the greatest hit." I guess that's to be, huh? Steve Perry hasn't actually performed with the band in over 22 years. No rerecords with Steve Perry for he sang on those hits that have sold over 40 million. By the way, what are the numbers and when was MJ's first release? Sorry!

Knack for the obvious. Past tense is what you said. Present tense has Journey with a #1 in a category. It is what it is. Steve not doing anything at all is his choice and his alone.


Article did not mention rerecords included in #1 DVD, but it went on to cite other things. Just felt like keeping things in perspective. Would that be truth or consequences?


WTF is your point exactly?


I can't figure out what he's talking about half the time.
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Postby Jana » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:29 am

Since 78 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Author2 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:
Author2 wrote:
ttango1 wrote:Does it really matter, they got #1 at something. That's cool with me and I'm sure cool with them too. It just shows, even in limited market and in a down economy, there are fans out there buying enough to make it #1 in a category.

Even with MJJ gone, his numbers for this Associated Press article is a number 2. For Journey to do what they did is remarkable.



That's good. No it doesn't matter, but then they go into comparing it with their former "famed frontman, Steve Perry's," release at a point when he wasn't even around, with the replacement singer who has been said to be singing a "lion's share of the greatest hit." I guess that's to be, huh? Steve Perry hasn't actually performed with the band in over 22 years. No rerecords with Steve Perry for he sang on those hits that have sold over 40 million. By the way, what are the numbers and when was MJ's first release? Sorry!

Knack for the obvious. Past tense is what you said. Present tense has Journey with a #1 in a category. It is what it is. Steve not doing anything at all is his choice and his alone.


Article did not mention rerecords included in #1 DVD, but it went on to cite other things. Just felt like keeping things in perspective. Would that be truth or consequences?


WTF is your point exactly?


I can't figure out what he's talking about half the time.


Half the time? :shock: Then you're doing better than me. :lol: :lol:
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