Question to Jeremy that he doesn't have to answer...

[aliaslen]

Okay that sucked!!! When it journey going to tell him to shut the F up when he is not singing with them? Also his vocal cords already sound damaged. Give me a break! I have always liked Arnel but this is getting ridiculous!

His voice was still OK . He sang van halen with too much raspiness on the morning show, and the night on that same day he sang styx medley where his voice sounded very clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKAq_4ZijzA

No, that is an abomination. Dreams is one of my favorite VH songs and he butchered it way worse than the local drunk at karaoke night. Way fucking worse. HORRIBLE. It seriously makes me angry to watch.

I'm only responding to perrywoman who thinks Arnel's vocal chords was damaged already, which i think is not based on that styx clip he sang the very same day. Yeah by all means you may continue to parade your dislike in him singing 80's rock music hits which he intends to entertain only the the Pilippine audience.

[Ehwmatt]

Okay that sucked!!! When it journey going to tell him to shut the F up when he is not singing with them? Also his vocal cords already sound damaged. Give me a break! I have always liked Arnel but this is getting ridiculous!

His voice was still OK . He sang van halen with too much raspiness on the morning show, and the night on that same day he sang styx medley where his voice sounded very clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKAq_4ZijzA

No, that is an abomination. Dreams is one of my favorite VH songs and he butchered it way worse than the local drunk at karaoke night. Way fucking worse. HORRIBLE. It seriously makes me angry to watch.

I'm only responding to perrywoman who thinks Arnel's vocal chords was damaged already, which i think is not based on that styx clip he sang the very same day. Yeah by all means you may continue to parade your dislike in him singing 80's rock music hits which he intends to entertain only the the Pilippine audience.

Oh, thanks for the permission. Arnel is embarrassing himself. You can't mimic every singer out there. Even the best singers are going to sound stupid trying to mimic every other vocalist's inflections. Imagine SP trying to do Sinatra...

Someone really needs to tell him to stop

[Michigan Girl]

Arnel doesn't really need the added money (or the wear on his voice).

If you want to understand these cheap-ass noontime-TV covers, you need
to look at his manager's cut of any action, and imagine that Arnel himself
is just too nice to say no to requests for him to sing.

I'd prefer Arnel sing his own material, if Journey songs are verboten, but
that's up to his manager to hammer out.

What show is this, Wech?...it appears to be a gameshow?!?!?

[perryswoman]

Okay that sucked!!! When it journey going to tell him to shut the F up when he is not singing with them? Also his vocal cords already sound damaged. Give me a break! I have always liked Arnel but this is getting ridiculous!

His voice was still OK . He sang van halen with too much raspiness on the morning show, and the night on that same day he sang styx medley where his voice sounded very clear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKAq_4ZijzA

No, that is an abomination. Dreams is one of my favorite VH songs and he butchered it way worse than the local drunk at karaoke night. Way fucking worse. HORRIBLE. It seriously makes me angry to watch.

I'm only responding to perrywoman who thinks Arnel's vocal chords was damaged already, which i think is not based on that styx clip he sang the very same day. Yeah by all means you may continue to parade your dislike in him singing 80's rock music hits which he intends to entertain only the the Pilippine audience.

Oh, thanks for the permission. Arnel is embarrassing himself. You can't mimic every singer out there. Even the best singers are going to sound stupid trying to mimic every other vocalist's inflections. Imagine SP trying to do Sinatra...

Someone really needs to tell him to stop

I very much agree. I have supported AP from day one with Journey but I do not want him out there singing all the other band's cover songs and I am sorry but he sounds horrible. If he doesn't want to tour and needs to rest, fine DO IT!

[Ehwmatt]

I very much agree. I have supported AP from day one with Journey but I do not want him out there singing all the other band's cover songs and I am sorry but he sounds horrible. If he doesn't want to tour and needs to rest, fine DO IT!

That's the funny thing all these Arneliots tryin to jump down my throat don't get. Go back a year or two and look for old posts. I supported Arnel. I just can't any more with him continuing to do this shit and more importantly, with him apparently not making any effort whatsoever to clear up his accent issues. Listen to that video!

Weel geet a-higher and a-higher stwait up weel fly

[perryswoman]

I very much agree. I have supported AP from day one with Journey but I do not want him out there singing all the other band's cover songs and I am sorry but he sounds horrible. If he doesn't want to tour and needs to rest, fine DO IT!

That's the funny thing all these Arneliots tryin to jump down my throat don't get. Go back a year or two and look for old posts. I supported Arnel. I just can't any more with him continuing to do this shit and more importantly, with him apparently not making any effort whatsoever to clear up his accent issues. Listen to that video!

Weel geet a-higher and a-higher stwait up weel fly

If Journey renews his 3 year contract I am fairly confident they will tell him to sing with them alone and ditch all the other crap unless they agree to do a fundraiser with him. I doubt they will let this continue after this year when they see him singing every band in the world's covers. If they don't, then well they are just stupid.

[Ehwmatt]

I very much agree. I have supported AP from day one with Journey but I do not want him out there singing all the other band's cover songs and I am sorry but he sounds horrible. If he doesn't want to tour and needs to rest, fine DO IT!

That's the funny thing all these Arneliots tryin to jump down my throat don't get. Go back a year or two and look for old posts. I supported Arnel. I just can't any more with him continuing to do this shit and more importantly, with him apparently not making any effort whatsoever to clear up his accent issues. Listen to that video!

Weel geet a-higher and a-higher stwait up weel fly

If Journey renews his 3 year contract I am fairly confident they will tell him to sing with them alone and ditch all the other crap unless they agree to do a fundraiser with him. I doubt they will let this continue after this year when they see him singing every band in the world's covers. If they don't, then well they are just stupid.

Agreed. I hope Neal's reading all this. It's really embarrassing and it's souring me, a guitar player, on the band that has my favorite guitar player of all time.

[SusieP]

I think it's the best song on revelation, Jeremey and I'm glad you made some money out of it.
I'm also glad you didn't stay with the band.

I'd wager that your voice is still going strong and that you are a happier bloke than you were at that time.

Ages ago many of us warned you that accepting the Journey singer job might just be a poisoned chalice.
If Arnel's voice is knackered thank goodness you didn't drink from that chalice.

xxx


Oh, and as Jason said, not all singers have writing talent as well as vocal talent.
Some of the people classed as the greatest voices of all time did not compose songs.
Frank Sinatra, Dusty Springfield, Ella Fitzgerald - they never composed any of their songs, but oh boy did they interpret them beautifully.



Just my two cents worth.

[perryswoman]

I very much agree. I have supported AP from day one with Journey but I do not want him out there singing all the other band's cover songs and I am sorry but he sounds horrible. If he doesn't want to tour and needs to rest, fine DO IT!

That's the funny thing all these Arneliots tryin to jump down my throat don't get. Go back a year or two and look for old posts. I supported Arnel. I just can't any more with him continuing to do this shit and more importantly, with him apparently not making any effort whatsoever to clear up his accent issues. Listen to that video!

Weel geet a-higher and a-higher stwait up weel fly

If Journey renews his 3 year contract I am fairly confident they will tell him to sing with them alone and ditch all the other crap unless they agree to do a fundraiser with him. I doubt they will let this continue after this year when they see him singing every band in the world's covers. If they don't, then well they are just stupid.

Agreed. I hope Neal's reading all this. It's really embarrassing and it's souring me, a guitar player, on the band that has my favorite guitar player of all time.

Well Journey is my all time favorite band along with Neal being my favorite guitar player as well but I think what aggrivates the most is we have all tried to defend the label Karoke singer that has been put on Arnel but he goes home and does the same BS. I just do not get it. Is he not worried Journey will get pissed or does he just not give a damn and will call it quits after 3 years. With youtube being so huge, he needs to stop this BS immediately. Neal if you reading this, Make the freakin call. LOL

[SusieP]

Is he trying to make as much money as he can while his profile is high?

Maybe he thinks that as Neal & Jonathan are not youngsters any more that Journey's shelf life hasn't got very many years left to go so he'd better cash in while he can?

[perryswoman]

Is he trying to make as much money as he can while his profile is high?

Maybe he thinks that as Neal & Jonathan are not youngsters any more that Journey's shelf life hasn't got very many years left to go so he'd better cash in while he can?

Could be but I would at least wait till my contract was up or risk getting the boot.

[SusieP]

Is he trying to make as much money as he can while his profile is high?

Maybe he thinks that as Neal & Jonathan are not youngsters any more that Journey's shelf life hasn't got very many years left to go so he'd better cash in while he can?

Could be but I would at least wait till my contract was up or risk getting the boot.

Who knows the secrets of the mysterious JourneyWorld!


If he knackers his voice he won't be able to fulfil the rest of his contract or do any more 'lounge' shows!

[Ehwmatt]

Is he trying to make as much money as he can while his profile is high?

Maybe he thinks that as Neal & Jonathan are not youngsters any more that Journey's shelf life hasn't got very many years left to go so he'd better cash in while he can?

Most likely. I won't fault him for the business aspect of that, but man, at least do something you can sound halfway decent at. I still think it's humiliating for the lead singer of Journey, albeit the 800th one, to be doing stuff like this, but at least do something from Survivor where he can sound good. That's the LEAST he could do. These VH songs are just horrendous.

[portland]

Is he trying to make as much money as he can while his profile is high?

Maybe he thinks that as Neal & Jonathan are not youngsters any more that Journey's shelf life hasn't got very many years left to go so he'd better cash in while he can?

Most likely. I won't fault him for the business aspect of that, but man, at least do something you can sound halfway decent at. I still think it's humiliating for the lead singer of Journey, albeit the 800th one, to be doing stuff like this, but at least do something from Survivor where he can sound good. That's the LEAST he could do. These VH songs are just horrendous.

Agreed....and I am sure that somone will diss me for it......but ^^^^^^^^^ that is true

[steveo777]

Well, they've got plenty of time to write for the next album. Pineda seems pretty busy on the variety show circuit, really not taking any break since the tour has finished. Based on that activity, I'm really believing that there will be no tour this summer, so in effect no album. I also don't believe this is Schon's choice but management's call.

I'm wondering if they're taking a year off to get AP some vocal treatment. He was sounding fairly raspy at times this fall.

I really doubt that. The guy has had over half a dozen T.V. appearances just in October alone. I can't see him shutting down for surgery. He was just singing Van Halen's Dreams and Jump on one show. IF he beats down his voice, I can't see myself having any sympathy for him.

Holy sweet mother of everything holy this is AWFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvmC1GKvQdg

We'll get a-higher and a-higher stwait up we'll fly

We'll get a-higher and a-higher, live it all beehind

Any Journey fan not appalled that the lead singer of Journey is over there sounding like this on other 80s bands songs needs to have their fuckin head examined.

Well we shall see what this does for the new voice of Journey.....I just don't get it

Journey needs to buy out Arnel's contract from his old manager and give him a major raise so he can stop doing this. I understand that Arnel is trying to earn money and keep his profile high in the Philippines for his future, but it's hurting his and the band's present. This does not look good, nor does it sound good and it must be hard on Arnel's voice.

If Journey is serious about taking care of their lead singer, they should be able to pay him enough now so that he doesn't have to take a second job to fund his retirement! Besides, it may be accepted in the Philippines, but anyone interested in the band or Arnel is going to search YouTube and find stuff like that performance. With the Internet and YouTube, I can't think of any lead singer of any major band who would go on TV anywhere to mimic other artists, even at gunpoint. Once Arnel became the lead singer of Journey, this kind of performance should have stopped.

I wonder if anyone has bothered to post these feelings on the Journey website or Arnel's website? I know such a post on Journey's site would probably get deleted and they are pretty sensitive over in the plokker forums so it probably wouldn't go well there either. But, seriously, what is Journey management thinking? What is Arnel still doing with this De Leon guy in the Philippines? He might have a contract he can't get out of. I don't see how Neal could watch these cheap TV guestings and not get pissed. Don't you think he'd say something about it?

[Michigan Girl]

Is he trying to make as much money as he can while his profile is high?

Maybe he thinks that as Neal & Jonathan are not youngsters any more that Journey's shelf life hasn't got very many years left to go so he'd better cash in while he can?

Most likely. I won't fault him for the business aspect of that, but man, at least do something you can sound halfway decent at. I still think it's humiliating for the lead singer of Journey, albeit the 800th one, to be doing stuff like this, but at least do something from Survivor where he can sound good. That's the LEAST he could do. These VH songs are just horrendous.

Agreed....and I am sure that somone will diss me for it......but ^^^^^^^^^ that is true

Why, for speaking the truth?!?!? Girl, this is MR!!!

[Don]

I wonder how his diction will be after 18 months. It will be 2008 all over again, except a half step lower.

[ttango1]

It'd be so much easier if you guys just put the needle on the record.

Same Ol Shit from the same ol peeps. Circle Jerking must be fun for you guys.

The TV Show is a cultural thing. Why you guys bang on the guy for the accent when he is on Philippine TV talking to Philippine hosts, and performing to a primarily Philippine audience is unreal. That'd be like telling Willie Nelson at the Grand Ol' Opry to speak without a twang...THAT SHIT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN diction police.

I get it when he's here in America, that the diction could be pose an issue but ONLY YOU GUYS MAKE IT THAT BIG AN ISSUE and truthfully, the complaints are LIMITED TO THIS BOARD
All that bitchin and moaning has made you feel good but really, Journey has gone out and has done better than most any group that had their apex in melodic rock. Sans The Steve.

I think J's song contribution is awesome and he deserves applause and whatever royalties are due. Props to you sir.
But the rest of this stuff is almost an utter waste of time.

The concerts are still an event, the records and DVDs are still being bought and played...that right there is proof positive that what Journey is doing, is simply working. If it's working, what is there to fix?

[SultanOfSwing]

I wonder if anyone has bothered to post these feelings on the Journey website or Arnel's website? I know such a post on Journey's site would probably get deleted and they are pretty sensitive over in the plokker forums so it probably wouldn't go well there either. But, seriously, what is Journey management thinking? What is Arnel still doing with this De Leon guy in the Philippines? He might have a contract he can't get out of. I don't see how Neal could watch these cheap TV guestings and not get pissed. Don't you think he'd say something about it?

Here's the problem with most Pinoys. I'm not sure if you're aware with the term "utang na loob" or debt of gratitude. This is another Filipino cultural trait which academic sometimes refer to as "reciprocity", it's like an obligation to repay a person who has done one big favor. And since De Leon was his manager ever since he started his singing career back in PI, this is the case of what Pineda is trying to give Bert De Leon back a big favor, and I'm sure they bonded a special relationship not only as a business partner but also as a friend who he can confide with all his personal agenda. And Arnel doesn't want to break this relationship by just firing him and ended up in a bitter relationship.

But I agree, if he's willing to succeed as an international artist, he need to hire a good manager who can handle his career here in the U.S. and international as well and not only in the Philippines. But in spite of constantly appearing with these cheap shows in PI, he wants to promote a fund raising he started by helping his countrymen and to promote a good cause, or maybe he wants to run for office in the Philippines in the future, but of course that's only my speculation which no one really knows.

[steveo777]

It'd be so much easier if you guys just put the needle on the record.

Same Ol Shit from the same ol peeps. Circle Jerking must be fun for you guys.

The TV Show is a cultural thing. Why you guys bang on the guy for the accent when he is on Philippine TV talking to Philippine hosts, and performing to a primarily Philippine audience is unreal. That'd be like telling Willie Nelson at the Grand Ol' Opry to speak without a twang...THAT SHIT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN diction police.

I get it when he's here in America, that the diction could be pose an issue but ONLY YOU GUYS MAKE IT THAT BIG AN ISSUE and truthfully, the complaints are LIMITED TO THIS BOARD
All that bitchin and moaning has made you feel good but really, Journey has gone out and has done better than most any group that had their apex in melodic rock. Sans The Steve.

I think J's song contribution is awesome and he deserves applause and whatever royalties are due. Props to you sir.
But the rest of this stuff is almost an utter waste of time.

The concerts are still an event, the records and DVDs are still being bought and played...that right there is proof positive that what Journey is doing, is simply working. If it's working, what is there to fix?

Nothing short of bringing back Steve Perry. That's the only way the people you are highlighting will ever be happy.

[Jana]

It'd be so much easier if you guys just put the needle on the record.

Same Ol Shit from the same ol peeps. Circle Jerking must be fun for you guys.

The TV Show is a cultural thing. Why you guys bang on the guy for the accent when he is on Philippine TV talking to Philippine hosts, and performing to a primarily Philippine audience is unreal. That'd be like telling Willie Nelson at the Grand Ol' Opry to speak without a twang...THAT SHIT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN diction police.

I get it when he's here in America, that the diction could be pose an issue but ONLY YOU GUYS MAKE IT THAT BIG AN ISSUE and truthfully, the complaints are LIMITED TO THIS BOARD
All that bitchin and moaning has made you feel good but really, Journey has gone out and has done better than most any group that had their apex in melodic rock. Sans The Steve.

I think J's song contribution is awesome and he deserves applause and whatever royalties are due. Props to you sir.
But the rest of this stuff is almost an utter waste of time.

The concerts are still an event, the records and DVDs are still being bought and played...that right there is proof positive that what Journey is doing, is simply working. If it's working, what is there to fix?

As an Arnel fan myself, you're oversimplifying it. Many of those clips aren't even good performances, sorry to say, Dream, Jump, not befitting a Journey lead singer, period. The stars on those Phils shows sing in their own voices while doing covers. Why not Arnel? Plus I don't hear diction problems in most of the stars of those shows when singing English songs, so, obviously, it is something Arnel needs to stay on top of regarding himself. That's all I want anyway, for him to improve his diction year by year and not backtrack like he did last year while being off, and be in good vocal shape for the new CD i.e., resting his vocals after a long, grueling tour, which he's not. I have no problems with him singing over there in moderation and keeping a higher profile ( helps sell Journey music anyway) and if his appearances are stellar performances. That put-on heavy raspiness he is doing needs to go. He is not showcasing the amazing vocals he has by doing that.

[portland]

It'd be so much easier if you guys just put the needle on the record.

Same Ol Shit from the same ol peeps. Circle Jerking must be fun for you guys.

The TV Show is a cultural thing. Why you guys bang on the guy for the accent when he is on Philippine TV talking to Philippine hosts, and performing to a primarily Philippine audience is unreal. That'd be like telling Willie Nelson at the Grand Ol' Opry to speak without a twang...THAT SHIT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN diction police.

I get it when he's here in America, that the diction could be pose an issue but ONLY YOU GUYS MAKE IT THAT BIG AN ISSUE and truthfully, the complaints are LIMITED TO THIS BOARD
All that bitchin and moaning has made you feel good but really, Journey has gone out and has done better than most any group that had their apex in melodic rock. Sans The Steve.

I think J's song contribution is awesome and he deserves applause and whatever royalties are due. Props to you sir.
But the rest of this stuff is almost an utter waste of time.

The concerts are still an event, the records and DVDs are still being bought and played...that right there is proof positive that what Journey is doing, is simply working. If it's working, what is there to fix?

As an Arnel fan myself, you're oversimplifying it. Many of those clips aren't even good performances, sorry to say, Dream, Jump, not befitting a Journey lead singer, period. The stars on those Phils shows sing in their own voices while doing covers. Why not Arnel? Plus I don't hear diction problems in most of the stars of those shows when singing English songs, so, obviously, it is something Arnel needs to stay on top of regarding himself. That's all I want anyway, for him to improve his diction year by year and not backtrack like he did last year while being off, and be in good vocal shape for the new CD i.e., resting his vocals after a long, grueling tour, which he's not. I have no problems with him singing over there in moderation and keeping a higher profile ( helps sell Journey music anyway) and if his appearances are stellar performances. That put-on heavy raspiness he is doing needs to go. He is not showcasing the amazing vocals he has by doing that.

Good Post Jana!

[Ehwmatt]

It'd be so much easier if you guys just put the needle on the record.

Same Ol Shit from the same ol peeps. Circle Jerking must be fun for you guys.

The TV Show is a cultural thing. Why you guys bang on the guy for the accent when he is on Philippine TV talking to Philippine hosts, and performing to a primarily Philippine audience is unreal. That'd be like telling Willie Nelson at the Grand Ol' Opry to speak without a twang...THAT SHIT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN diction police.

I get it when he's here in America, that the diction could be pose an issue but ONLY YOU GUYS MAKE IT THAT BIG AN ISSUE and truthfully, the complaints are LIMITED TO THIS BOARD
All that bitchin and moaning has made you feel good but really, Journey has gone out and has done better than most any group that had their apex in melodic rock. Sans The Steve.

I think J's song contribution is awesome and he deserves applause and whatever royalties are due. Props to you sir.
But the rest of this stuff is almost an utter waste of time.

The concerts are still an event, the records and DVDs are still being bought and played...that right there is proof positive that what Journey is doing, is simply working. If it's working, what is there to fix?

I don't care if the TV show is a religious ritual intended to establish lines of communication to deceased family members, it stinks to high heavens! It's an embarrassment to Arnel and as a fan of Arnel, you are doing him a huge disservice defending his performing on these kinda things.

As far as the diction, believe me, I know people outside this board, including people who aren't even big fans of Journey and wouldn't know Steve Perry from Steve Martin who hear it loud and clear and think it's absurd.

[wednesday's child]

What show is this, Wech?...it appears to be a gameshow?!?!?

Hi, MG,
Game Ka Na Ba (Are you Game?), where Nel covered VH is indeed a gameshow,
albeit broadcast (pretaped) during primetime. It's shot just two blocks from here
actually, and I've seen Arnel, a number of times, being ushered into ABS-CBN's
facilities.

Noontime "variety show" syndrome infects ALL of Philippine non-drama television.


Arnel's attitude towards these gigs? I could be wrong but...
Just check out Arnel's expression at the GKNB gig and at Cinemanila (if you can
find a vid). He performs as contracted, but IMO isn't into it 100%. I think he
can't totally hide his discomfort with doing that kind of shit.

Nel isn't leaving Bert de Leon. /end of. But...
Hopefully Arnel's friends realize that Arnel's non-Journey career can have firmer
footing if he sings his own material; and that Journey's image as well as Arnel's
(as Journey frontman) suffer damage from these cheap-ass covers.

[Onestepper]

Wow. That Arnel clip is embarrassing. I know the band doesn't control what he does on his own time, but stuff like this just makes me grow farther and farther away from them. Maybe it's just about getting older. But I doubt it since my tastes haven't changed that much. On the up side, 99.9% of their fan base in the States won't ever see that clip. I just wish I was back as part of the majority.

[Jana]

Hi, MG,
Game Ka Na Ba (Are you Game?), where Nel covered VH is indeed a gameshow,
albeit broadcast (pretaped) during primetime. Noontime "variety show" syndrome
infects ALL of Philippine non-drama television.

I could be wrong but...
Just check out Arnel's expression at the GKNB gig and at Cinemanila (if you can
find a vid). He performs as contracted, but IMO can't 100% hide his discomfort
doing that kind of shit.

Nel isn't leaving Bert de Leon. /end of. But...
Hopefully de Leon realizes that Arnel's ex-Journey career can have firmer footing
if he promotes his own material; and that Journey's image as well as Arnel's (as
Journey frontman) is not being helped by these two-bit covers.

Arnel's Phils career will slowly fade without the cache' of Journey unless he's with them a long enough period of time that it will give him that elder statesman respect in the entertainment industry. If he's with them only a short time (which I don't anticipate), these guestings will be less and less and his fan base will be way smaller as time goes on over there and the glamour of following his every move on the Journey tour is a memory. But Arnel is very committted to Journey and he won't be leaving them until he can't sing the catalogue, mark my words. But his committment should always be first and foremost to Journey and his voice in off season. and knowing his limitations and setting boundaries.

[Michigan Girl]

It'd be so much easier if you guys just put the needle on the record.

Same Ol Shit from the same ol peeps. Circle Jerking must be fun for you guys.

The TV Show is a cultural thing. Why you guys bang on the guy for the accent when he is on Philippine TV talking to Philippine hosts, and performing to a primarily Philippine audience is unreal. That'd be like telling Willie Nelson at the Grand Ol' Opry to speak without a twang...THAT SHIT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN diction police.

I get it when he's here in America, that the diction could be pose an issue but ONLY YOU GUYS MAKE IT THAT BIG AN ISSUE and truthfully, the complaints are LIMITED TO THIS BOARD
All that bitchin and moaning has made you feel good but really, Journey has gone out and has done better than most any group that had their apex in melodic rock. Sans The Steve.

I think J's song contribution is awesome and he deserves applause and whatever royalties are due. Props to you sir.
But the rest of this stuff is almost an utter waste of time.

The concerts are still an event, the records and DVDs are still being bought and played...that right there is proof positive that what Journey is doing, is simply working. If it's working, what is there to fix?

Nothing short of bringing back Steve Perry. That's the only way the people you are highlighting will ever be happy.

You're so full of shit you're stinkin' up my office...now go flush yourself!!

[Don]

I for one am glad that he is no longer singing Journey songs at these gigs. These shows aren't even using a house band most of the time, it's straight up tape.

[Michigan Girl]

What show is this, Wech?...it appears to be a gameshow?!?!?

Hi, MG,
Game Ka Na Ba (Are you Game?), where Nel covered VH is indeed a gameshow,
albeit broadcast (pretaped) during primetime. It's shot just two blocks from here
actually, and I've seen Arnel, a number of times, being ushered into ABS-CBN's
facilities.

Noontime "variety show" syndrome infects ALL of Philippine non-drama television.


Arnel's attitude towards these gigs? I could be wrong but...
Just check out Arnel's expression at the GKNB gig and at Cinemanila (if you can
find a vid). He performs as contracted, but IMO isn't into it 100%. I think he
can't totally hide his discomfort with doing that kind of shit.

Nel isn't leaving Bert de Leon. /end of. But...
Hopefully Arnel's friends realize that Arnel's non-Journey career can have firmer
footing if he sings his own material; and that Journey's image as well as Arnel's
(as Journey frontman) suffer damage from these cheap-ass covers.

I saw that, Wech...thanks for taking the time!!

[Jana]

What show is this, Wech?...it appears to be a gameshow?!?!?

Hi, MG,
Game Ka Na Ba (Are you Game?), where Nel covered VH is indeed a gameshow,
albeit broadcast (pretaped) during primetime. It's shot just two blocks from here
actually, and I've seen Arnel, a number of times, being ushered into ABS-CBN's
facilities.

Noontime "variety show" syndrome infects ALL of Philippine non-drama television.


Arnel's attitude towards these gigs? I could be wrong but...
Just check out Arnel's expression at the GKNB gig and at Cinemanila (if you can
find a vid). He performs as contracted, but IMO isn't into it 100%. I think he
can't totally hide his discomfort with doing that kind of shit.

Nel isn't leaving Bert de Leon. /end of. But...
Hopefully Arnel's friends realize that Arnel's non-Journey career can have firmer
footing if he sings his own material; and that Journey's image as well as Arnel's
(as Journey frontman) suffer damage from these cheap-ass covers.

I saw that, Wech...thanks for taking the time!!

I don't know, Wech. I think he thought it was a big honor, which it absolutely was, to be at the Annual Cinemanila Awards Night event and to be invited to perform for NBC there in front of all the celebrities in the Philippines, after having no fame in the Phils for all those years.