Arnel Pineda flatly denies rumors that he is leaving Journey

[perryswoman]

Actually, there are a few small things, which by themselves cause no alarm. It's when you start looking at them combined, you go oh shit!

Neal blogs that there will be no tour in 2010....
Band ends touring season Sept......
Pineda goes back to Philippines and is gonna spend 2010 there......
The Evolution band breaks up.......

Those cocksuckers hired Hugo!!!

I don't think he's last two nights. His voice is waaaaay too thin. But the look is right.

The look is lame as fuck, so stupid

If they hired that dude I would have to excuse myself from journey fandom.

[slucero]

Neal didn't create shit..

Other that some legendary guitar work. Neal was/is 1/6th of a band that collectively made great music... yes I said 1/6th... because that "6th" member was Herbie... even the band called him "the 6th member"...for a reason... they make the music happen, and Herbie made everything else happen...

And if I remember correctly... Journey was Herbie's idea... not Neals...

It was only after Herbie was pushed out, that the Journey came to a screeching halt.

[SP Fan in Oregon]

Six pages already! I do not know, but I have experience to speculate that Arnel probably started out under an employment contract with the LLC (if an LLC exists, as Jeremey indicated). Arnel would likely have to prove his value to the band before they would allow him a membership interest in the LLC. Now that Arnel has contributed substantially to the success of Journey, his lawyers have likely negotiated a membership interest, but I highly doubt Arnel's interest is as much as the others. So, yeah, no "contract" as that term is used, but LLC's have operating agreements, and so it isn't like there isn't a written agreement. I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too. As for Perry, I speculate that he would have done just about anything to get out of his contract with Sony.
He has the exact date of his contract release at the tip of his tongue, that is how much it meant to him to get out of that. I don't think he will ever get himself into another contract without a clear out. When you are young, and in those days, wow, sign me up. Lots of young talent have done that same thing and have found themselves in servitude to contracts they didn't really realize would impact their life so much. I can't imagine Perry signing a non-compete to get out of the contract, especially if Lora confirmed that it didn't happen (I never saw that post). It was most likely a negotiated settlement on percent of rights, Perry giving up a lot to just get out of his contract with Sony. Much like a divorce, everyone leaves with less than they hoped for, but at least it isn't protracted litigation for the rest of your life. I do not think that Perry's failure to release a CD in all these years has anything to do with the settlement terms.

[Saint John]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

[Saint John]

LOL

[stevew2]

Six pages already! I do not know, but I have experience to speculate that Arnel probably started out under an employment contract with the LLC (if an LLC exists, as Jeremey indicated). Arnel would likely have to prove his value to the band before they would allow him a membership interest in the LLC. Now that Arnel has contributed substantially to the success of Journey, his lawyers have likely negotiated a membership interest, but I highly doubt Arnel's interest is as much as the others. So, yeah, no "contract" as that term is used, but LLC's have operating agreements, and so it isn't like there isn't a written agreement. I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too. As for Perry, I speculate that he would have done just about anything to get out of his contract with Sony.
He has the exact date of his contract release at the tip of his tongue, that is how much it meant to him to get out of that. I don't think he will ever get himself into another contract without a clear out. When you are young, and in those days, wow, sign me up. Lots of young talent have done that same thing and have found themselves in servitude to contracts they didn't really realize would impact their life so much. I can't imagine Perry signing a non-compete to get out of the contract, especially if Lora confirmed that it didn't happen (I never saw that post). It was most likely a negotiated settlement on percent of rights, Perry giving up a lot to just get out of his contract with Sony. Much like a divorce, everyone leaves with less than they hoped for, but at least it isn't protracted litigation for the rest of your life. I do not think that Perry's failure to release a CD in all these years has anything to do with the settlement terms.

did you get lost?

[SP Fan in Oregon]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

What part of what I speculated on was not true in your opinion?
Not challenging you, just obvious you have an opinion. You say Perry couldn't sing and he would not tour, what does that have to do with what I said in my post?

[Saint John]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

What part of what I speculated on was not true in your opinion?
Not challenging you, just obvious you have an opinion. You say Perry couldn't sing and he would not tour, what does that have to do with what I said in my post?

Fair enohgh.

[Saint John]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

What part of what I speculated on was not true in your opinion?
Not challenging you, just obvious you have an opinion. You say Perry couldn't sing and he would not tour, what does that have to do with what I said in my post?

Fair enohgh.

[SP Fan in Oregon]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

What part of what I speculated on was not true in your opinion?
Not challenging you, just obvious you have an opinion. You say Perry couldn't sing and he would not tour, what does that have to do with what I said in my post?

Fair enohgh.

Saint John.......... are you tying one too many on tonight? First you jump all over my post and now you post "fair enough" twice.
WTF? Is that your real phone number, so I can stalk YOU.

[fredinator]

[Saint John]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

What part of what I speculated on was not true in your opinion?
Not challenging you, just obvious you have an opinion. You say Perry couldn't sing and he would not tour, what does that have to do with what I said in my post?

Fair enohgh.

Saint John.......... are you tying one too many on tonight? First you jump all over my post and now you post "fair enough" twice.
WTF? Is that your real phone number, so I can stalk YOU.

Find out!

[SP Fan in Oregon]

Saint John. I know what will make you happy ....

A pic of me in my halloween outfit.







just kidding [/quote]

[bluejeangirl76]

Fair enohgh.

Nihce ohne.

[SherriBerry]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

I doubt Arnel will ever have the reins and certainly not like SP did. Somehow I think Neal and the band would rather go on the road as Bad English with a new lead singer (as long as they don't have to play 'When I See You Smile') than go through another power shift like that in Journey. Steve could take the reins because he was the voice of Journey, the band was at the height of its popularity with no end in sight and he was a principle songwriter with Jon and Neal. The circumstances are so different now and the speculation is that the next album could be the last anyway.

[SherriBerry]

Saint John. I know what will make you happy ....

A pic of me in my halloween outfit.







just kidding

Darn, I was going to ask you where I could get a costume like that, but I have a feeling it would have cost about $10,000 anyway.

[JasonD]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

LOL!!! --- OMG--- I couldn't agree with you more, still your post just cracks me up. I'm imagining Philips on the phone with you.... "Dan, my son, what's this I hear about you gettin all up in someone's grill & bad mouthin' my boy Steve?"

[Ehwmatt]

Saint John. I know what will make you happy ....

A pic of me in my halloween outfit.







just kidding

Darn, I was going to ask you where I could get a costume like that, but I have a feeling it would have cost about $10,000 anyway.

How much of that $10K is in the boob job?

[Ehwmatt]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

You were drinkin last night weren't you

[portland]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

You were drinkin last night weren't you

ya think?????

[Onestepper]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

What character trait has Arnel demonstrated to give you the impression that he would be willing, and more over, even capable of pulling a Perry in terms of control? The guy can't even stop singing Karaoke for God sake. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he has shown has come close to demonstrating that he has the slightest ability to exert more control over anything. He looks like a kid in the candy store waiting for his mom and dad to tell him what he can buy, and when he has to leave. That is not a knock on him. It's just a realization that I think this guy is profoundly happy doing what he is doing, and nothing more.

[Michigan Girl]

Bullshit, SPFanInOregon. Let the truth be told. Perry couldn't sing and he would NOT tour. EVERYONE knew THAT!!! He would not TOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tell Lee Philips to call me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 773 814 5562

You were drinkin last night weren't you

No kidding...calm down "MADEA"!!!

[Michigan Girl]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

What character trait has Arnel demonstrated to give you the impression that he would be willing, and more over, even capable of pulling a Perry in terms of control? The guy can't even stop singing Karaoke for God sake. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he has shown has come close to demonstrating that he has the slightest ability to exert more control over anything. He looks like a kid in the candy store waiting for his mom and dad to tell him what he can buy, and when he has to leave. That is not a knock on him. It's just a realization that I think this guy is profoundly happy doing what he is doing, and nothing more.

This makes perfect sense, I don't see it either!!!

[Onestepper]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

What character trait has Arnel demonstrated to give you the impression that he would be willing, and more over, even capable of pulling a Perry in terms of control? The guy can't even stop singing Karaoke for God sake. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he has shown has come close to demonstrating that he has the slightest ability to exert more control over anything. He looks like a kid in the candy store waiting for his mom and dad to tell him what he can buy, and when he has to leave. That is not a knock on him. It's just a realization that I think this guy is profoundly happy doing what he is doing, and nothing more.

This makes perfect sense, I don't see it either!!!

I'm going to be in Detroit Michigan in a few weeks. Please save me and tell me some things to do that will not get me arrested.

[portland]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

What character trait has Arnel demonstrated to give you the impression that he would be willing, and more over, even capable of pulling a Perry in terms of control? The guy can't even stop singing Karaoke for God sake. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he has shown has come close to demonstrating that he has the slightest ability to exert more control over anything. He looks like a kid in the candy store waiting for his mom and dad to tell him what he can buy, and when he has to leave. That is not a knock on him. It's just a realization that I think this guy is profoundly happy doing what he is doing, and nothing more.

He is way too busy on the karoke set to worry about controlling Journey......and that I am sure the way that Neal likes it....he pulls the strings.

[Behshad]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

What character trait has Arnel demonstrated to give you the impression that he would be willing, and more over, even capable of pulling a Perry in terms of control? The guy can't even stop singing Karaoke for God sake. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he has shown has come close to demonstrating that he has the slightest ability to exert more control over anything. He looks like a kid in the candy store waiting for his mom and dad to tell him what he can buy, and when he has to leave. That is not a knock on him. It's just a realization that I think this guy is profoundly happy doing what he is doing, and nothing more.

This makes perfect sense, I don't see it either!!!

I'm going to be in Detroit Michigan in a few weeks. Please save me and tell me some things to do that will not get me arrested.

One Long Fun Word:

LandingStrip !

[Onestepper]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

What character trait has Arnel demonstrated to give you the impression that he would be willing, and more over, even capable of pulling a Perry in terms of control? The guy can't even stop singing Karaoke for God sake. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he has shown has come close to demonstrating that he has the slightest ability to exert more control over anything. He looks like a kid in the candy store waiting for his mom and dad to tell him what he can buy, and when he has to leave. That is not a knock on him. It's just a realization that I think this guy is profoundly happy doing what he is doing, and nothing more.

This makes perfect sense, I don't see it either!!!

I'm going to be in Detroit Michigan in a few weeks. Please save me and tell me some things to do that will not get me arrested.

One Long Fun Word:

LandingStrip !

Awesome. Looks like my kind of place!

[Michigan Girl]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

What character trait has Arnel demonstrated to give you the impression that he would be willing, and more over, even capable of pulling a Perry in terms of control? The guy can't even stop singing Karaoke for God sake. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he has shown has come close to demonstrating that he has the slightest ability to exert more control over anything. He looks like a kid in the candy store waiting for his mom and dad to tell him what he can buy, and when he has to leave. That is not a knock on him. It's just a realization that I think this guy is profoundly happy doing what he is doing, and nothing more.

This makes perfect sense, I don't see it either!!!

I'm going to be in Detroit Michigan in a few weeks. Please save me and tell me some things to do that will not get me arrested.

I so wish I were going to be there...I'd show you around myself!!
The only time I'm ever in Detroit anymore is to visit family, land, takeoff, attend a concert
or some sort of sporting event. Greektown & MGM are great!!

There are people here who actually live there and are more informed than I!!!

The Landingstrip "B" is referring to is not located at the Metro!!!

[SP Fan in Oregon]

I would think that as Arnel continues with Journey that he will command a larger interest in the LLC. Sort of like when Perry became the VOICE of Journey, he got so powerful in the control of Journey because he held ALL the cards. "he had the reins, and they let him run with it." More like he had everyone's balls and they didn't flinch for fear of losing him and all the success they were having with him. Arnel may end up commanding the same kind of control once he figures out he has the reins too.

What character trait has Arnel demonstrated to give you the impression that he would be willing, and more over, even capable of pulling a Perry in terms of control? The guy can't even stop singing Karaoke for God sake. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING he has shown has come close to demonstrating that he has the slightest ability to exert more control over anything. He looks like a kid in the candy store waiting for his mom and dad to tell him what he can buy, and when he has to leave. That is not a knock on him. It's just a realization that I think this guy is profoundly happy doing what he is doing, and nothing more.

Character trait! He is represented by competent legal counsel. He already owns a membership share of the LLC maybe. He's a survivor and should not be underestimated. Being humble doesn't mean he's stupid and his lawyer is already getting him his due. From employment contract to part owner. Not bad for a kid in a candy store.

[Behshad]

Its MINUTES away from the airport Here's a map for ya.... I want FULL review after your visit !