OFFICIAL NFL Week by Week Thread:

[Saint John]

Isn't he the asshole that called the Winter Olympics racist or soemthing like that? I know that not to be true because Tito has never once mentioned attending.

[larryfromnextdoor]

The commentating on MNF is so much better than the Sunday games it's almost sick. Gruden is the man

i love al michaels play by plays..

i have a friend that HATES collinsworth because many years ago .. he kept talking about steelers QB neil o'donnell

as a "gimpy armed QB".. big time struck a nerve.

[YoungJRNY]

The commentating on MNF is so much better than the Sunday games it's almost sick. Gruden is the man

i love al michaels play by plays..

i have a friend that HATES collinsworth because many years ago .. he kept talking about steelers QB neil o'donnell

as a "gimpy armed QB".. big time struck a nerve.

It wasn't that gimpy throwing two wide open interceptions to Larry Brown!

[larryfromnextdoor]

The commentating on MNF is so much better than the Sunday games it's almost sick. Gruden is the man

i love al michaels play by plays..

i have a friend that HATES collinsworth because many years ago .. he kept talking about steelers QB neil o'donnell

as a "gimpy armed QB".. big time struck a nerve.

It wasn't that gimpy throwing two wide open interceptions to Larry Brown!

wow.. if i remember correctly.. brown was just standing ..not around anyone and the ball seemed to be thrown

right to him.. i remember that ..

[YoungJRNY]

The commentating on MNF is so much better than the Sunday games it's almost sick. Gruden is the man

i love al michaels play by plays..

i have a friend that HATES collinsworth because many years ago .. he kept talking about steelers QB neil o'donnell

as a "gimpy armed QB".. big time struck a nerve.

It wasn't that gimpy throwing two wide open interceptions to Larry Brown!

wow.. if i remember correctly.. brown was just standing ..not around anyone and the ball seemed to be thrown

right to him.. i remember that ..

Twice.

[RedWingFan]

The only good thing the Bengals ever did on the West Coast was break Bo Jacksons hip.

Bo Jackson was a fucking BEAST! It's really unfortunate that he was never healthy, because he had the potential to be one of the all time greats. He was the most unique back I ever saw come into the NFL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjO_QfFYV78

You know, in watching that clip he really doesn't seem to have gone down hard. It was just a normal, everyday tackle....something must have been wrong with him that he wasn't saying.....and although I, myself, like elusive backs better - something must be said for the back that can knock the hell out of you.

I really don't remember much of him, as I was more into baseball, NCAA hoops, NBA, and hockey back then....oh, and worshipping one Barry Sanders.

There wasn't anything wrong with him. It's just the freak way his leg was pulled from the socket. Broke some kind of bone in there that caused the bone to be starved of blood.

[Ehwmatt]

Broncos beginning their meltdown. Chargers are breathing down their necks now. You coulda seen this comin a mile away. They just simply aren't that good

[YoungJRNY]

Not bad for an "average" "slow" "old" receiver.

[Enigma869]

Not bad for an "average" "slow" "old" receiver.

Time to remove the Hines Ward dildo from your anus, dude! He is old. His skills are VERY average, and he's slow as shit. I commend Hines Ward for getting the absolute most out of his talent, and that's not a bad thing. As I stated before, I believe that he will absolutely get elected to the HOF, even though he would never get my vote. If someone asked me to come up with the 20 best receivers over the past 10 years, his name would not be on my list. If a player doesn't ever dominate (at his position) the era he plays in, he's not HOF worthy in my opinion. I think Roethlisberger will be more HOF worthy at the end of his career than Ward ever will be.

[Ehwmatt]

Not bad for an "average" "slow" "old" receiver.

Time to remove the Hines Ward dildo from your anus, dude! He is old. His skills are VERY average, and he's slow as shit. I commend Hines Ward for getting the absolute most out of his talent, and that's not a bad thing. As I stated before, I believe that he will absolutely get elected to the HOF, even though he would never get my vote. If someone asked me to come up with the 20 best receivers over the past 10 years, his name would not be on my list. If a player doesn't ever dominate (at his position) the era he plays in, he's not HOF worthy in my opinion. I think Roethlisberger will be more HOF worthy at the end of his career than Ward ever will be.

LOL

[S2M]

Teams that don't impress me much:

Pittsburgh
Indy
Denver
Giants
Fleur-de-Lis

Teams that impress me:

Minnie
Cincy
NE - if only for the fact that you really can't stop Brady.

[Enigma869]

Teams that don't impress me much:

Pittsburgh
Indy
Denver
Giants
Fleur-de-Lis

Teams that impress me:

Minnie
Cincy
NE - if only for the fact that you really can't stop Brady.

I agree with you on Denver and the Giants. Your argument on the Colts is a bit inconsistent because Manning and Brady are on the same level. Also, I think you're making a HUGE mistake overlooking Pittsburgh. I don't think they have any shot of winning the Super Bowl this season, but Roethlisberger has really turned into an excellent QB so they can't be taken lightly.

[Ehwmatt]

Teams that don't impress me much:

Pittsburgh
Indy
Denver
Giants
Fleur-de-Lis

Teams that impress me:

Minnie
Cincy
NE - if only for the fact that you really can't stop Brady.

Broncos haven't impressed me from the start, not even close.

Pittsburgh has definitely impressed in recent weeks - that's just a group that KNOWS how to win, which cannot be underrated. Look at Roethlisberger last night, he fumbles and has it taken back for 6, what does that fucker do? Comes right back and leads a quick TD drive. Then they shit all over the Broncos.

Saints and Colts still impress the hell out of me, too much firepower there not to be impressed even though they have struggled in their last 2 outings each.

Cincy has to be given respect at this point. Injuries are a concern, but they are a force on both sides of the ball.

NE is impressive for much the same reason Pitt is - just too much experience and pedigree to be sold short.

Vikes are VERY tough, but I'm with John, I think the Favre meltdown will happen sooner or later.

[S2M]

Teams that don't impress me much:

Pittsburgh
Indy
Denver
Giants
Fleur-de-Lis

Teams that impress me:

Minnie
Cincy
NE - if only for the fact that you really can't stop Brady.

I agree with you on Denver and the Giants. Your argument on the Colts is a bit inconsistent because Manning and Brady are on the same level. Also, I think you're making a HUGE mistake overlooking Pittsburgh. I don't think they have any shot of winning the Super Bowl this season, but Roethlisberger has really turned into an excellent QB so they can't be taken lightly.

In the past I would fear Indy. But the only weapon duck face has now is Clark. And if Bill takes Clark out of the game, the fear is gone.

[Enigma869]

But the only weapon duck face has now is Clark. And if Bill takes Clark out of the game, the fear is gone.

Dude...do you even watch football? You do realize that Reggie Wayne is second in the entire NFL in receiving yards, right? Wayne has been a top 5 receiver for the past three seasons and is every bit the weapon that Moss is! Also...Tom Brady won Super Bowls with Bethel Johnson, Reche Caldwell and David Givens, so I'm fairly certain that Manning could win one with Wayne, Clark and the rest of their inexperienced receivers. Good QB's have the ability to make below average receivers serviceable!

[YoungJRNY]

Not bad for an "average" "slow" "old" receiver.

Time to remove the Hines Ward dildo from your anus, dude! He is old. His skills are VERY average, and he's slow as shit. I commend Hines Ward for getting the absolute most out of his talent, and that's not a bad thing. As I stated before, I believe that he will absolutely get elected to the HOF, even though he would never get my vote. If someone asked me to come up with the 20 best receivers over the past 10 years, his name would not be on my list. If a player doesn't ever dominate (at his position) the era he plays in, he's not HOF worthy in my opinion. I think Roethlisberger will be more HOF worthy at the end of his career than Ward ever will be.

You couldn't be more wrong. As usual. Ward if anybody is the most deserving just by the way the man plays the game. And that old, VERY average receiver is blowing by young corners and he can't be contained. You're the one talking dildo's? (Of course) you picked Tom Brady to be this years MVP, it doesn't get more cupid than that, loverboy.

Just for you JFB, here's a nice angle from Wards first touchdown (of 2) last night.

[S2M]

But the only weapon duck face has now is Clark. And if Bill takes Clark out of the game, the fear is gone.

Dude...do you even watch football? You do realize that Reggie Wayne is second in the entire NFL in receiving yards, right? Wayne has been a top 5 receiver for the past three seasons and is every bit the weapon that Moss is! Also...Tom Brady won Super Bowls with Bethel Johnson, Reche Caldwell and David Givens, so I'm fairly certain that Manning could win one with Wayne, Clark and the rest of their inexperienced receivers. Good QB's have the ability to make below average receivers serviceable!

John, why must you always assume that the poster doesn't watch football? I do not care about Reggie Wayne. And we are talking about NE-Indy, not Indy-any other NFL team. NE has trouble with the TE position in games with the Colts. We can shut Wayne down. I fear Clark. How many times do I have to say it?

[lights1961]

Dont count out the Cards... they are the sleeper in the NFC... Werner has been nothing short of pretty darn good for the other old QB...

[S2M]

Someone's sipping

[YoungJRNY]

Teams that don't impress me much:

Pittsburgh
Indy
Denver
Giants
Fleur-de-Lis

Teams that impress me:

Minnie
Cincy
NE - if only for the fact that you really can't stop Brady.

You're impressed with Cincinnati (who won more games than they should of lost, and SHOULD have lost to the Browns, that FG was missed), but not Pittsburgh? You're impressed with New England and not Indianapolis? These two "debates" on who doesn't impress you can be settled next week. I don't see how you can not be impressed with Pittsburgh dude, they are two 4th qrt meltdowns away from being 8-0! Mendenhall wasn't playing well early season and was simply getting 4 touches a game, and Polamalu is back to shape, something we didn't have early. The Steelers WOMPED on the Donco's (despite having 3 starters on defense out) and the Donco's pretty much beat down New England in the same stadium to take win it in overtime. The Steelers beat The Vikings and Broncos in two consecutive weeks, but yet that's not impressive? New England Cheatriots keep winning, but they are far from a great team. In fact, I'd rather play them than see the Bronco's again in the playoffs, or hell, even the Chargers. The Steelers will gauge New England all day, ANY day with this new offensive weaponry. This is December, and I can GUARANTEE you that Pittsburgh will be the hardest team to beat. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

[Ehwmatt]

alright the rampant gay fanboyism in here is getting to be a bit much, can we go back to being semi-objective guys?

[S2M]

Teams that don't impress me much:

Pittsburgh
Indy
Denver
Giants
Fleur-de-Lis

Teams that impress me:

Minnie
Cincy
NE - if only for the fact that you really can't stop Brady.

You're impressed with Cincinnati (who won more games than they should of lost, and SHOULD have lost to the Browns, that FG was missed), but not Pittsburgh? You're impressed with New England and not Indianapolis? These two "debates" on who doesn't impress you can be settled next week. I don't see how you can not be impressed with Pittsburgh dude, they are two 4th qrt meltdowns away from being 8-0! Mendenhall wasn't playing well early season and was simply getting 4 touches a game, and Polamalu is back to shape, something we didn't have early. The Steelers WOMPED on the Donco's and the Donco's pretty much beat down New England in the same stadium to take win it in overtime. The Steelers beat The Vikings and Broncos in two consecutive weeks, but yet that's not impressive? New England Cheatriots keep winning, but they are far from a great team. In fact, I'd rather play them than see the Bronco's again in the playoffs, or hell, even the Chargers. The Steelers will gauge New England all da, ANY day with this new offensive weaponry. This is December, and I can GUARANTEE you that Pittsburgh will be the hardest team to beat. THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

[YoungJRNY]

alright the rampant gay fanboyism in here is getting to be a bit much, can we go back to being semi-objective guys?

Gay fanboyism, or whatever you call it is not the term to use. This is the time where the playoff brackets begin to shape up. This is the way it gets as teams like Pittsburgh and New England breaks away from the pack. This is the time to get serious, and pull out all the stops in defending your team come playoff time. I know it's something you don't understand over there in 'Stain land, but this is a whole different beast approaching, it just so happens we have two diehards on this board who are going to go at it from here on out, since both teams are primed for a playoff push at the moment. I'm trying to find the peace with the rest of the league and try to give the them a fair observation, but the fact remains that N.O, Indy, Pitt, and N.E are making noise and will continue to make noise all season. All the pretenders like Cincinnati who haven't proved anything EVER will always be the bitch of the league until they win in the playoffs.

[Enigma869]

Werner has been nothing short of pretty darn good for the other old QB...

Yeah..and Warner hasn't been bad either

[Ehwmatt]

alright the rampant gay fanboyism in here is getting to be a bit much, can we go back to being semi-objective guys?

Gay fanboyism, or whatever you call it is not the term to use. This is the time where the playoff brackets begin to shape up. This is the way it gets as teams like Pittsburgh and New England breaks away from the pack. This is the time to get serious, and pull out all the stops in defending your team come playoff time. I know it's something you don't understand over there in 'Stain land, but this is a whole different beast approaching, it just so happens we have two diehards on this board who are going to go at it from here on out, since both teams are primed for a playoff push at the moment. I'm trying to find the peace with the rest of the league and try to give the them a fair observation, but the fact will always remain this far, that is is N.O, Indy, Pitt, and N.E who are making noise and will continue to make noise all season. All the pretenders like Cincinnati who hasn't proved anything EVER will always be the bitch of the league until they win in the playoffs.

I understand all that, but have you ever heard the expression, "That's why they play the game"?

Cinci has earned the right to be respected at this point regardless of their having a shitty game against the Browns (I'm pretty sure they just took us so lightly they didn't know what to do).

[YoungJRNY]

Dont count out the Cards... they are the sleeper in the NFC... Werner has been nothing short of pretty darn good for the other old QB...

I understand he threw 5 Td's this week, but a week before this, he threw 5 picks to the terrible Panthers. The Cardinals are def a sleeper, but they are far too inconsistent to be mentioned in the threshold of the league.

[Enigma869]

John, why must you always assume that the poster doesn't watch football?

Because too much of what you said sounds like it came from someone who hasn't watched two downs of NFL football this season!

We can shut Wayne down. I fear Clark. How many times do I have to say it?

Read what you wrote. You never said that "I fear Clark" or "We can shut Wayne down". You clearly said that Clark was "THE ONLY" weapon that Manning has at his disposal, and I'm telling you that given the fact that he has one of the best wide receivers in the entire NFL on his team, your statement is moronic!

[YoungJRNY]

alright the rampant gay fanboyism in here is getting to be a bit much, can we go back to being semi-objective guys?

Gay fanboyism, or whatever you call it is not the term to use. This is the time where the playoff brackets begin to shape up. This is the way it gets as teams like Pittsburgh and New England breaks away from the pack. This is the time to get serious, and pull out all the stops in defending your team come playoff time. I know it's something you don't understand over there in 'Stain land, but this is a whole different beast approaching, it just so happens we have two diehards on this board who are going to go at it from here on out, since both teams are primed for a playoff push at the moment. I'm trying to find the peace with the rest of the league and try to give the them a fair observation, but the fact will always remain this far, that is is N.O, Indy, Pitt, and N.E who are making noise and will continue to make noise all season. All the pretenders like Cincinnati who hasn't proved anything EVER will always be the bitch of the league until they win in the playoffs.

I understand all that, but have you ever heard the expression, "That's why they play the game"?

Cinci has earned the right to be respected at this point regardless of their having a shitty game against the Browns (I'm pretty sure they just took us so lightly they didn't know what to do).

Agree with that, but given the history of this time of the year, I'm taking my chances with the proven teams in the league in the last decade, rather than a team, like the Bungles who look forward to "Steelers week" year in and year out. They worry about Pittsburgh too much to the point to where you just said, should never.. EVER overlook ANY team in the league. They are all professionals. You say "That's why they play the game" then turn around and say they played the Clowns only to overlook them. Championship teams overlook nobody, and THAT is why Cinci has been nothing but a bump in the road, even when they DID win the division in '05. Same standards hold true for the Jags and Titans compared to Indy & the Dolphins and Jets for the Pats.

[S2M]

John, from another thread:

It's a fair question. I can't remember the last time Indy played the Patriots in New England. On another note, I see the Patriots either losing against the Colts or New Orleans in the next couple of weeks. I'm fairly convinced that they'll hand one of these teams their first loss. Right now, I'm leaning toward the Patriots upsetting the Colts in a very close game on Sunday night.[/list]

I agree, John. BUT, being a New England fan, you must know that the biggest flaw the Patriots have had with Indy is coming up with a gameplan for the TE position. I fully expect Dallas Clark to run rampant in the middle of the field, and in the flat. I'm not afraid of Addai, and I'm not afraid of Peyton. If Bill has finally figured out a plan for Clark, I see a blowout.

Secondly, I'm not afraid of Brees. Side note: The Pats secondary has a huge flaw. giving the opposing receivers too much cushion, especially on possession downs. (read: 3rd and long). TE gameplanning, and 3rd and long have killed us like forever. If your D-line is getting pressure on opposing QB...play up, jump the route....don't give a 5-yard cushion on 3rd a 3, cause you know a quick dump off is coming before the receiver has even turned around(and you can't defend that).

I don't know....just some things I've noticed.

[YoungJRNY]

Malone, you're afraid of Dallas Clark, who you think can run wild, which he can..but not Peyton Manning? Who do you think is throwing to this man named Dallas Clark? I don't give a shit who you are, if you don't come into the game fearing a player like Manning then I give you credit, because he's the best Quarterback who can burn you in the snap of a finger.