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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:06 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Three things idiot. #1 The quarterbacks, running backs, and receivers did their job to put A.V in position to WIN THE GAME. If he doesn't make those kicks, then no victory for your cheating Patriots, thus throwing out whatever Brady and his offense did before the fact. So, A.V had EVERYTHING to do with virtually every pathetic 3* Superbowls you've won. #2, Obviously, you've never seen Ben play the position. I'd love to see Boy wonder elude the rush like Roethlisberger does and stiff arm defensive lineman to the ground, consistently. It'll never happen because Brady is a worthless homo when it comes to pressure. Ben will fight, scratch, claw, and punch his way for a yard before he even thinks about going down, and he's done it throughout his career, so don't be lumping faggot ass Brady with Ben when it comes to eluding pressure. As far as the Giants SB victory, they kicked N.E's ass all game long and they didn't have A.V to bail them out when the game was on the line!!!!!! EXCLAMATION POINT.



This entire post tells me that you're not longer worthy of even having a conversation with. You're officially too fucking stupid to even have an intelligent debate with! Another typical twenty something year old dope with a box of rocks between the ears!
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Postby S2M » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:09 am

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Postby S2M » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:11 am

and no adult response to this Trav?

And this:

the holding penalty against Sean Locklear, nullifying what would have been a Seahawks' first-and-goal on the Pittsburgh 1 in the fourth quarter, seemed a bad call. On almost every Pittsburgh offensive play, a Steelers blocker grabbed as briefly as Locklear grabbed on the down in question; if it was illegal for one team, it should have been illegal for both teams. instead of first-and-goal, Seattle ended up throwing an interception on third-and-long. That interception undid the Seahawks, as they staged a 13-play, 81-yard drive that ended in no points, and undid the Super Bowl itself, converting what might have been a fabulous ending into a lackluster fourth quarter. Seattle faithful also have a legitimate complaint that the fourth-quarter 15-yard penalty on Hasselbeck for "low block" was inexplicable. The rulebook states that during a turnover, neither team may block below the waist. But Hasselbeck wasn't blocking -- he was making the tackle. Check the official Game Book, at 10:54 of the fourth quarter. The league's own Game Book credits Hasselbeck with the tackle on a play where the penalty could be valid only if Hasselbeck was not making a tackle!


and this:

Tuck Rule: Under the rule, a quarterback's throwing motion begins when he raises the ball in his hand and begins to move his arm forward; that motion doesn't end until the quarterback tucks the ball back against his body, making him a runner. If the ball comes loose any time in between, it's an incomplete pass, not a fumble. Only if the quarterback reloads -- and raises the ball again to start a new throwing motion -- can he fumble, as long as the ball is knocked loose before his arm begins to move forward again...
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:12 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:Three things idiot. #1 The quarterbacks, running backs, and receivers did their job to put A.V in position to WIN THE GAME. If he doesn't make those kicks, then no victory for your cheating Patriots, thus throwing out whatever Brady and his offense did before the fact. So, A.V had EVERYTHING to do with virtually every pathetic 3* Superbowls you've won. #2, Obviously, you've never seen Ben play the position. I'd love to see Boy wonder elude the rush like Roethlisberger does and stiff arm defensive lineman to the ground, consistently. It'll never happen because Brady is a worthless homo when it comes to pressure. Ben will fight, scratch, claw, and punch his way for a yard before he even thinks about going down, and he's done it throughout his career, so don't be lumping faggot ass Brady with Ben when it comes to eluding pressure. As far as the Giants SB victory, they kicked N.E's ass all game long and they didn't have A.V to bail them out when the game was on the line!!!!!! EXCLAMATION POINT.



This entire post tells me that you're not longer worthy of even having a conversation with. You're officially too fucking stupid to even have an intelligent debate with! Another typical twenty something year old dope with a box of rocks between the ears!


You're easy bait. What I just said is damn well worthy. Plus, I don't really give a rats ass if you think who is worthy, or not because in the land of John from Bastard, noone is worthy! I don't make anything up. It's a worthy debate. If you don't like something you don't hear then you go conniption. I know I'm a dope! How original of you. If you can't take it, don't enforce it fucker.
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Postby Saint John » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:13 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:
Saint John wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:And this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdK5z4xK7Rk


This could be bullshit because his toe could have already been coming up after already being down on the gorund. Just because this mo-mo says "this is when he had possession of the ball" doesn't make it so. Anyway, here's another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2UOrErz8M&NR=1



And this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMmd6H-27-s&feature=fvw


Hard to argue with any of those!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:21 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:and no adult response to this Trav?

And this:

the holding penalty against Sean Locklear, nullifying what would have been a Seahawks' first-and-goal on the Pittsburgh 1 in the fourth quarter, seemed a bad call. On almost every Pittsburgh offensive play, a Steelers blocker grabbed as briefly as Locklear grabbed on the down in question; if it was illegal for one team, it should have been illegal for both teams. instead of first-and-goal, Seattle ended up throwing an interception on third-and-long. That interception undid the Seahawks, as they staged a 13-play, 81-yard drive that ended in no points, and undid the Super Bowl itself, converting what might have been a fabulous ending into a lackluster fourth quarter. Seattle faithful also have a legitimate complaint that the fourth-quarter 15-yard penalty on Hasselbeck for "low block" was inexplicable. The rulebook states that during a turnover, neither team may block below the waist. But Hasselbeck wasn't blocking -- he was making the tackle. Check the official Game Book, at 10:54 of the fourth quarter. The league's own Game Book credits Hasselbeck with the tackle on a play where the penalty could be valid only if Hasselbeck was not making a tackle!


and this:

Tuck Rule: Under the rule, a quarterback's throwing motion begins when he raises the ball in his hand and begins to move his arm forward; that motion doesn't end until the quarterback tucks the ball back against his body, making him a runner. If the ball comes loose any time in between, it's an incomplete pass, not a fumble. Only if the quarterback reloads -- and raises the ball again to start a new throwing motion -- can he fumble, as long as the ball is knocked loose before his arm begins to move forward again...


Any way to want to spin it, The Steelers won the game! The Seahawks lost that game because of bad clock management and just being stupid beyond belief in play calling. Holgrem got out coached so bad to the point where the Steelers escaped one of the worst quarterback performances of all time. The Seahawks couldn't stop Willie Parkers run, the Seahawks couldn't stop Randle El's pass to Ward, and Hasselback should of never thrown that ball RIGHT TO IKE TAYLOR! The Steelers won, fair and square, no matter how much you haters want to spin it. We got the ring baby! Image

As far as the tuck rule, Brady was pump faking the ball, and the ball was knocked out after the fact he made the pump fake. It wasn't until after this call that the NFL enforced major ruling on this rule. That was a goddamn fumble and I don't care how the refs ruled it! The Tuck rule is the most controversial rule in the history of the game and it always will.

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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:32 am

Take a look at this.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/dan-roone ... fans-22012

Seahawks fans have claimed ever since that the Steelers didn’t win the game as much as the referees gave the game to them. At the time there was one Seattle fan who wrote a letter to then-NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue, and the owners of each team, Paul Allen and Dan Rooney. The letter gave a detailed description as to how the fan thought that the game was fixed so that Pittsburgh would win, and though he never heard back from Tagliabue or Allen, Rooney did take the time to let him know he was a moron. Now he’s selling Rooney’s letter on eBay.

From eBay (via PROFOOTBALLTALK)

Within a week of the game, I had written a five-page letter to then NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue carefully detailing the many bad calls that had gone against the Seahawks for imaginary penalties, and the non-calls that had been ignored for the Steelers all game long in a transparent effort to prevent the Seahawks from winning the game. I also attached a number of newspaper articles and editorials that expressed outrage over the officiating to further bolster my case. I copied the letter to Seahawks owner Paul Allen and Steelers owner Dan Rooney.

Lo and behold just a couple weeks later I received a personal reply from Dan Rooney himself, which was copied to Commissioner Tagliabue, attempting to refute my concerns about the officiating. Mr. Rooney wrote, in part: “You are something special — you watch a TV broadcast of Super Bowl XL with all the interruptions, camera locations, replays, and now know more than anyone else in America on what was wrong with the officiating.” Wow! I guess I really got his attention and got under his skin! Mr. Rooney goes on to supplement the letter with a two-page 20-point explanation of why the Steelers “really” did outplay the Seahawks for the Lombardi Trophy.

For Steelers fans, this would be a great acquisition to show your beloved owner giving the business to an uppity Seahawks fan who was complaining about the Super Bowl XL officiating. For Seahawks fans, this would likewise be a great acquisition conclusively demonstrating the insecurity of the Steelers over their supposed “win.”

Here is a transcript of what the letter says, at least what we know it says. The pictures on eBay only show the cover page and not the 20 reasons why Rooney says the Steelers won the game.

22 February 2006

Dear Mr. [omitted]

You are something special — you watch a TV broadcast of Super Bowl XL, with all the interruptions, camera locations, replays and now know more than anyone else in America on what was wrong with the officiating. You review the plays from your own prejudice. Did you look at what was happening? I could go over the game and point out things that were just not perfect for the Steelers officiating, but why? The Seahawks held Casey Hampton, a great Pro Bowl player, on every play. But it’s over — let it go.

You say the best team didn’t win. The best team did win. They gave their all to gain the victory. The Steelers defense was outstanding from the kickoff to the final play. The offense made the plays to win. The only thing I will say — the Seahawks are a good football team — they kept it close — but the Steelers were the best.

I am pleased you are from [omitted], PA because I would be disappointed if you were from Washington. They are fine people. The Seahawks are a class team. I have much respect and high regard for Paul Allen and the Seahawk organization.

Attached are a list of 20 reasons the Steelers won.

Thank you for your interest,

/s/ Dan Rooney

cc: Commissioner Tagliabue
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Postby Enigma869 » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:33 am

YoungJRNY wrote:It's a worthy debate.


Yeah...calling Brady "A worthless homo" and a "faggot ass" is really stimulating debate material. Listen, I get it...you don't like the Patriots, and I honestly don't give a fuck. Your endless rants about how much Brady sucks and how much the Patriots suck tells me your football knowledge wouldn't fill a fucking thimble. I can't stand the Steelers or their douchebag fans, but you won't find one single thread from me ANYWHERE on this board, EVER saying the Steelers suck. I'd be embarrassed to call myself a football fan if I uttered such nonsensical bullshit. You've also never heard me once make a single excuse about the Patriots losing to the Giants in the Super Bowl. You have endless fucking excuses for why the Steelers won every one of their games and why the Patriots won theirs. Who gives a fuck. A win is a win is a win. My parting shot to you is this...Tell all the Shitsburgh fans that I said to go fuck themselves and I'll see their big mouth, whiny asses in January! I'll let Malone carry on with your mindless debates. I'm done! Ciao.
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Postby S2M » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:34 am

Trav, I'll just add you to the long list of individuals who still don't grasp the concept of Sour Grapes... :roll:

You are truly a fan that only cares about scoreboard. A win is a win, right....doesn't matter about blown calls, missed calls....which is kind of hypocritical because I believe you take umbrage with Spygate. A win is a win, right? :wink:
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Postby RedWingFan » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:36 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
As far as the tuck rule, Brady was pump faking the ball, and the ball was knocked out after the fact he made the pump fake. It wasn't until after this call that the NFL enforced major ruling on this rule. That was a goddamn fumble and I don't care how the refs ruled it! The Tuck rule is the most controversial rule in the history of the game and it always will.

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Damn straight it was a fumble. :evil:

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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:39 am

Enigma869 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:It's a worthy debate.


Yeah...calling Brady "A worthless homo" and a "faggot ass" is really stimulating debate material. Listen, I get it...you don't like the Patriots, and I honestly don't give a fuck. Your endless rants about how much Brady sucks and how much the Patriots suck tells me your football knowledge wouldn't fill a fucking thimble. I can't stand the Steelers or their douchebag fans, but you won't find one single thread from me ANYWHERE on this board, EVER saying the Steelers suck. I'd be embarrassed to call myself a football fan if I uttered such nonsensical bullshit. You've also never heard me once make a single excuse about the Patriots losing to the Giants in the Super Bowl. You have endless fucking excuses for why the Steelers won every one of their games and why the Patriots won theirs. Who gives a fuck. A win is a win is a win. My parting shot to you is this...Tell all the Shitsburgh fans that I said to go fuck themselves and I'll see their big mouth, whiny asses in January!


Brady IS a worthless homo and faggot ass when it comes to eluding a rush. He just has the privileged of never getting touched. Obviously you can't read in context. I don't like the Patriots, but I too never said they "suck" obviously they don't. But you have the same views of Pittsburgh to what I have from New England. I just don't think the Patriots have the team this year to compete with Pittsburgh if there's a matchup come January, but I never said the Patriots suck neither. In fact, in my earler predictions, I went as far to say that the Pats will go to the Super Bowl, and that they would probably be one of the two teams to beat in December. Still, I am hoping for another Pitt/N.E matchup because this isn't the team you've seen in '04! I won't pass along the message just because we don't give a shit what New England cheater fans think.

Hopefully, we'll see your ass in Jan!
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:40 am

StocktontoMalone wrote:Trav, I'll just add you to the long list of individuals who still don't grasp the concept of Sour Grapes... :roll:

You are truly a fan that only cares about scoreboard. A win is a win, right....doesn't matter about blown calls, missed calls....which is kind of hypocritical because I believe you take umbrage with Spygate. A win is a win, right? :wink:


Sour Grapes? You're the one that's posting "reasons why the Steelers shouldn't have won any SB known to man." Ask your butt lover, John from Bastard that same question of winning. As he stated, a wins a win! (Even when you cheat!)
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Postby S2M » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:42 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
StocktontoMalone wrote:Trav, I'll just add you to the long list of individuals who still don't grasp the concept of Sour Grapes... :roll:

You are truly a fan that only cares about scoreboard. A win is a win, right....doesn't matter about blown calls, missed calls....which is kind of hypocritical because I believe you take umbrage with Spygate. A win is a win, right? :wink:


Sour Grapes? You're the one that's posting "reasons why the Steelers shouldn't have won any SB known to man." Ask your butt lover, John from Bastard that same question or winning. As he stated, a wins a win!


I didn't ask John, I asked you. That's alright dodge the question, it is more your style to deflect anyway.


FYI, the patriots didn't cheat. They broke a rule, and they were penalized for it, both draft-wise and monetarily. Don't be jealous of Bill's genius. Its ok, embrace the inevitable..... :wink:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:45 am

Malone lets get real. "Missed calls" Blown opportunities, blah blah blah is apart of the game and happens on virtually every single play. Yes, those arguments arrive during the fanbase when debating and trash talking but when it DOES come down to it.. YES THE SCOREBOARD IS ALL THAT MATTERS in the end. NFL records prove that and won't change a single W/L no matter how bad us fans debate the blown calls! It's part of the game and also the arguments from the fan base dude. Plus, the call here or the play that wasn't called here plays out for both teams during the coarse of the game. Get over it.

Come to think of it, I challenge you to spot the non holding calls on James Harrison the past 2 1/2 years. You'd probably lose count and have no reason to go on after number 234.

And yes, the Patriots CHEATED. No way around that one! Sorry, and the NFL QUICKLY getting rid of ALL documents prove that. They are CHEATS. I can care less how many championships they've won due to spy gate, the NFL will not deduct them of winning those SB's, but that doesn't exclude the fact they got caught cheating and the league said they had documents from many years prior where this occurred. (Including both Championship wins against Pittsburgh AND a regular season game.) I don't want to hear 'but everyone does it' Tough. They got caught red handed.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:18 am

This is pure gold
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