R.I.P. Global Warming...The Convenient Truth...it's not hot!

[Ehwmatt]

i'm not saying the hacked info isn't something, but it does not negate all research and scientific opinions regarding the reality of global warming. even if you don't believe it is fact you can still treat the planet with kindness and conserve the natural resources for generations to come. it isn't only about saddling future generations with debt, we need to consider the planet and be responsible custodians.

Doesn't matter if it's scorched earth or the rainforest if you can't make a living because you're being taxed out of your skull

[7 Wishes]

Good Lord. This is "evidence"? I love how the word "allegedly" is the backbone of the anti-conspiratists' theory.

Sorry. Even if this did happen, it doesn't discount the thousands of other reliable sources that irrefutably prove global warming is (at least partially) caused by humankind. Rather akin to the "smoking gun" trailer they found in Iraq that turned out NOT to be WMD's. Give me a break.

[Voyager]

I'm usually a social liberal, but I don't realy swing one way or the other on the whole Global Warming thing.

Take a look at our past global temperature ranges:



What was it that caused the "global warming" during the years 1100 B.C. and 1300 A.D.? Were the LA freeways clogged back then? Was China burning more fossil fuels than ever before? No, it was just a natural occurence. I personally don't think there is much that man can do to throw the earth off course, short of a nuclear armageddon.

[Saint John]

I never really thought anyone was stupid enough to believe in global warming. Figured it was just partisan sheep going along with the "Bucks from dumbfucks" program. There has never been a shred of evidence to suggest it exists and a mountain of evidence that would almost surpass Oprah's buffet plate to suggest it's bullshit! People actually thought it existed??? Bwahahahahaha.

[Behshad]

Alright, B. I just caught a frog out back in the yard and tried my best to fuck it..damn thing kept squirming out of my hands...just like my wife...


Please advise.

1) copy and paste the last 12 post from you president Obama thread.

2) give the frog 18 seconds to fall asleep.

3) lubricate.

4) insert gently.

5) fuck

6) thank me and pass out while thinking about what you will copy & paste tomorrow.

[Behshad]

Alright, B. I just caught a frog out back in the yard and tried my best to fuck it..damn thing kept squirming out of my hands...just like my wife...


Please advise.

1) copy and paste the last 12 post from you president Obama thread.

2) give the frog 18 seconds to fall asleep.

3) lubricate.

4) insert gently.

5) fuck

6) thank me and pass out while thinking about what you will copy & paste tomorrow.

Dude get your mind off the frog..what about my wife?

Same 6 steps. Replace frog with wife minus step 3 and or 4.

[Behshad]

Well I'll be darned. Guess it worked. You owe me FactFinder. ;)

[squirt1]

We never heard of this in the early 70's,then someone noticed a hole in the Ozone layer and its been the end of the world ever since. Just because we now had the ability to see that doesn't mean it wasn't normal for billions of years. Oh ,and by the way, there is $$$$ huge $$$$$$$$$ to be made. Right Al ? This planet has had warming and cooling periods for over 4 BILLION yrs. Parts have been under water, ice, tropics, sand and islands formed and sank. THINK ! We can't put all of the climate changes in our lifetime and yell global warming. The big volcanoes under ocean heavily contribute. The temp of the oceans create El Nino or La Nina . Sunspots or the lack there of are a huge component. BYW ,good ole Faithfull at Yellowstone is one of the 10 super volcanos that could spew enough dust and contaminates to stop growing seasons around the earth. There are bigger things than man. Man should recycle and whatever else he can do to keep the planet clean. Don't let politicians tax even more of what you make in the name of global warming which scientists are half & half depending on who funds their never ending studies. A big $ maker in this GE. They want those new mercury bulbs ,which they have made in China, to sell like crazy @ $ 5-6. They will fund many elections with that money to get more Gov't deals.

[squirt1]

Voyager- Nice chart ! Fact Finder great hat for Gore, but someone had him in tin foil which was also nice.

[SherriBerry]

Geologists and scientists who actually study the Earth's evolution are well aware that changes in the planet's temperatures are normal and always have been. We cannot control it any more than we can control sunspots, volcanic eruptions, or getting hit by a meteor. The planet is like a giant engine and if more people studied and understood the mechanics of it and the energy and forces that drive it, they would not be so quick to believe that SUVs and cow farts are melting our glaciers. What we should be eyeing with suspicion is the fact that an entire industry has been created over the theory that the current climate changes are man made. Look at the governments, industries, and individuals who are getting rich over this. Humans didn't create the last Ice Age or the Medieval Warming Period and they won't create the next phase in our planet's climate shift.

Climate change is a reality, but we need to understand that it is not going away even if we all start living like Ed Begley Jr. What we should be pushing our governments for is a plan of action to ensure that we can survive whatever might be heading our way - many reputable scientists believe that the past warming trends are a precursor to a great cooling period, so start stocking up on your thermals.

I believe we should be developing clean energy, holding companies and individuals responsible for waste and pollution, and preserving our environment, but the popular mindset and current movement regarding climate change has become a lifestyle and I'm not jumping on their bandwagon.

[Voyager]

even if you don't believe it is fact you can still treat the planet with kindness and conserve the natural resources for generations to come. it isn't only about saddling future generations with debt, we need to consider the planet and be responsible custodians.

One drive through LA on a bad smog day is reason enough to get away from fossil fuels.

[Voyager]

LOL - yeah, with a $2500.00-per-month utility bill.

[SherriBerry]

LOL - yeah, with a $2500.00-per-month utility bill.

Is that for just one of his houses or all of them?

[G.I.Jim]

From: Gary Funkhouser <gary@ltrr.arizona.edu>
To: k.briffa@uea.ac.uk
Subject: kyrgyzstan and siberian data
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:37:09 -0700

Keith,

Thanks for your consideration. Once I get a draft of the central and southern siberian data and talk to Stepan and Eugene I'll send it to you.

I really wish I could be more positive about the Kyrgyzstan material, but I swear I pulled every trick out of my sleeve trying to milk something out of that. It was pretty funny though - I told Malcolm what you said about my possibly being too Graybill-like in evaluating the response functions - he laughed and said that's what he thought at first also. The data's tempting but there's too much variation even within stands. I don't think it'd be productive to try and juggle the chronology statistics any more than I already have - they just are what they are (that does sound Graybillian). I think I'll have to look for an option where I can let this little story go as it is.

Not having seen the sites I can only speculate, but I'd be optimistic if someone could get back there and spend more time collecting samples, particularly at the upper elevations.

Yeah, I doubt I'll be over your way anytime soon. Too bad, I'd like to get together with you and Ed for a beer or two. Probably someday though.

Cheers, Gary
Gary Funkhouser
Lab. of Tree-Ring Research
The University of Arizona
Tucson, Arizona 85721 USA
phone: (520) 621-2946
fax: (520) 621-8229
e-mail: gary@ltrr.arizona.edu

Let's all call Gary and ask him if he's proud of his research. I swear... I am tempted to call that number. I won't though...not my place to judge. These people will have to answer for what they've done and what I'm sure they're going to do now.

[Ehwmatt]

Let's all call Gary and ask him if he's proud of his research. I swear... I am tempted to call that number. I won't though...not my place to judge. These people will have to answer for what they've done and what I'm sure they're going to do now.

I'd call him but I'd probably be arrested for questioning the party line.

[Lula]

i'm not saying the hacked info isn't something, but it does not negate all research and scientific opinions regarding the reality of global warming. even if you don't believe it is fact you can still treat the planet with kindness and conserve the natural resources for generations to come. it isn't only about saddling future generations with debt, we need to consider the planet and be responsible custodians.

Doesn't matter if it's scorched earth or the rainforest if you can't make a living because you're being taxed out of your skull

i suppose some must think only of themselves.

[Ehwmatt]

i'm not saying the hacked info isn't something, but it does not negate all research and scientific opinions regarding the reality of global warming. even if you don't believe it is fact you can still treat the planet with kindness and conserve the natural resources for generations to come. it isn't only about saddling future generations with debt, we need to consider the planet and be responsible custodians.

Doesn't matter if it's scorched earth or the rainforest if you can't make a living because you're being taxed out of your skull

i suppose some must think only of themselves.

If everybody thinks for themselves, then we are thinking of every body.

Damn I'm deep.

[separate_wayz]

Some head-scratching and pondering from Der Spiegel on global temps ....

http://www.spiegel.de/international/wor ... 92,00.html

Climatologists Baffled by Global Warming Time-Out

Just a few weeks ago, Britain's Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research added more fuel to the fire with its latest calculations of global average temperatures. According to the Hadley figures, the world grew warmer by 0.07 degrees Celsius from 1999 to 2008 and not by the 0.2 degrees Celsius assumed by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. And, say the British experts, when their figure is adjusted for two naturally occurring climate phenomena, El Niño and La Niña, the resulting temperature trend is reduced to 0.0 degrees Celsius -- in other words, a standstill.

Whoops.

[Lula]

i'm not saying the hacked info isn't something, but it does not negate all research and scientific opinions regarding the reality of global warming. even if you don't believe it is fact you can still treat the planet with kindness and conserve the natural resources for generations to come. it isn't only about saddling future generations with debt, we need to consider the planet and be responsible custodians.

Doesn't matter if it's scorched earth or the rainforest if you can't make a living because you're being taxed out of your skull

i suppose some must think only of themselves.

If everybody thinks for themselves, then we are thinking of every body.

Damn I'm deep.

yes, thinking for ourselves is important, it's empowering. thinking only of ourselves is selfish. and some people are simply that- selfish.

[Lula]

You like being ripped off? I sure don't. Global Warming is FAKE FAKE FAKE....live it learn it love it. Sorry you got suckerd into this mess but you're not the only one. It must suck to be suckered so bad, and I realise all the gullible ones will have a hard time letting this go, but let it go you must.

Tax me for something worthwhile, not for a scam.

tell me what you consider worthwhile with regards to taxes.

i'll be glad to read evidence that debunks all the research that points to global warming. it would be a wonderful day indeed. i fear you find joy in this leak of emails (which i don't believe discounts all the research) for less than sincere reasons, but rather for gloating.

[lights1961]

You like being ripped off? I sure don't. Global Warming is FAKE FAKE FAKE....live it learn it love it. Sorry you got suckerd into this mess but you're not the only one. It must suck to be suckered so bad, and I realise all the gullible ones will have a hard time letting this go, but let it go you must.

Tax me for something worthwhile, not for a scam.

tell me what you consider worthwhile with regards to taxes.

i'll be glad to read evidence that debunks all the research that points to global warming. it would be a wonderful day indeed. i fear you find joy in this leak of emails (which i don't believe discounts all the research) for less than sincere reasons, but rather for gloating.

thats why the time out is needed... it is fake... the whole premise is nothing but to give GRANTs to research FIRMS who agree with AL GORE and to keep his grants coming.. plus being able to lFLY around the world numerous times with out feeling guilty about it... but yet makes everyone else feel guilty of their own travels... IE carben credits...

PROGRAMS govt is good at... NONE... programs people are GREAT at millions... okay maybe a bit extreme... but look at it this way, when it comes to universal health care and taxes... this week what did a govt panel say about mamagrams... not until the women is 50... talk about rationing...

[Saint John]

tell me what you consider worthwhile with regards to taxes.

Policemen, firemen, roads, trains and bridges, the armed forces, including defense, handicapped, mentally ill (including Phyllis) and a few things I'm surely missing. Things I'm not in favor of...anything pertaining to a fucking kid that isn't my own, free education (let's start having the parents pay for their kids to fail...my guess is that grades would go up because parents would start CARING whether or not their kids did their fucking homework and/or studied), welfare for more than 1 year (and only twice in a lifetime), "Bucks From Dumbfucks" (Global Warming) and hospitalization for illegals.

[Ehwmatt]

tell me what you consider worthwhile with regards to taxes.

Policemen, firemen, roads, trains and bridges, the armed forces, including defense, handicapped, mentally ill (including Phyllis) and a few things I'm surely missing. Things I'm not in favor of...anything pertaining to a fucking kid that isn't my own, free education (let's start having the parents pay for their kids to fail...my guess is that grades would go up because parents would start CARING whether or not their kids did their fucking homework and/or studied), welfare for more than 1 year (and only twice in a lifetime), "Bucks From Dumbfucks" (Global Warming) and hospitalization for illegals.

Well-put. And liberals, kindly go fuck yourselves for playing the "selfish" card.

You know what's selfish? Expecting a free ride from honest, hard-working people... like crapping 6 kids out knowing full well you don't have the means to support one kid, let alone six, and then turning around and screaming HELP ME!

Fuck that, and fuck all of you for trying to play the selfish card. It doesn't make me (or anyone else with half a brain in their heads) feel bad at all when you do that.

[Lula]

Well-put. And liberals, kindly go fuck yourselves for playing the "selfish" card.

You know what's selfish? Expecting a free ride from honest, hard-working people... like crapping 6 kids out knowing full well you don't have the means to support one kid, let alone six, and then turning around and screaming HELP ME!

Fuck that, and fuck all of you for trying to play the selfish card. It doesn't make me (or anyone else with half a brain in their heads) feel bad at all when you do that.

i'm pretty sure i'm the only one calling you "selfish" for thinking only of yourself. feel free to tell me to fuck off you're right, it is selfish to expect a free ride. i'm not trying to make you feel bad by calling you selfish, not at all. i don't want anyone to feel bad, i'm a liberal, i want everyone to be happy

[Lula]

you love trying to make obama into hitler, don't ya? i don't get you cons, not at all.... you're twisted in a sick way.

[Ehwmatt]

Well-put. And liberals, kindly go fuck yourselves for playing the "selfish" card.

You know what's selfish? Expecting a free ride from honest, hard-working people... like crapping 6 kids out knowing full well you don't have the means to support one kid, let alone six, and then turning around and screaming HELP ME!

Fuck that, and fuck all of you for trying to play the selfish card. It doesn't make me (or anyone else with half a brain in their heads) feel bad at all when you do that.

i'm pretty sure i'm the only one calling you "selfish" for thinking only of yourself. feel free to tell me to fuck off you're right, it is selfish to expect a free ride. i'm not trying to make you feel bad by calling you selfish, not at all. i don't want anyone to feel bad, i'm a liberal, i want everyone to be happy

Not too many people think only of themselves. I think of my family. Those are the people I want to help. I don't want to be forced to help some scumbag that expects a free ride, not 1 cent. I'm sorry.

Soup kitchens, food drives, clothing drives, and all that kind of stuff are the ways I like to help impoverished people. I used to help out at a soup kitchen in Erie, PA and that was one of the most fulfilling experiences I've ever had doing charity/altruistic work. When taxes are gorging on honest people's pay, it makes them angry and the worst part of it all, is that the people who really need the help (and really deserve it... some poor people don't deserve the help) don't get it, some scumbag scamming the system or some crooked politician gets it. Ugh

[Ehwmatt]

you love trying to make obama into hitler, don't ya? i don't get you cons, not at all.... you're twisted in a sick way.

Bush was compared to Hitler ad nauseum by leftists, it's not a one way street.

[Ehwmatt]

LOL

[Lula]

Are you happy that the truth is out now? You should be. That's the paradox for libs this whole thing brings about and I suspect why you're conflicted about this info. You really really want to save the planet right? Well, it appears that the planet is safe, has been safe, and most likely will remain safe (save Nuclear Armeggedon), for the foreseable future. You should be as happy as a clam about this but you're not because it doesn't follow your core beliefs that man is dirty rotten scoundrel who fucks up everything with his evil rotten corrupt capitalism. Am I close?

not close, not even in the ballpark. i am not an enemy of capitalism, i support it. yes, preserve the planet. i want global warming to be false, but i want more than just some leaked emails to prove it. i've already said this stuff, no need to repeat it.

as for the leftist portrayals of bush being hitler- don't support that either.

[separate_wayz]

you love trying to make obama into hitler, don't ya? i don't get you cons, not at all.... you're twisted in a sick way.

Bush was compared to Hitler ad nauseum by leftists, it's not a one way street.

Obama is NOT Hitler ..... Hitler was able to bring the Olympics to Berlin.