OFFICIAL NFL Week by Week Thread:

[Enigma869]

On a huge play too! You have no idea how weird it felt watching that.

Holy fuck...two more There goes one of my weekly predictions! Look at the Browns running up the score. Fuck, if Brady Quinn could go against Detroit's defense every week, he'd quickly become a viable NFL QB!

[Ehwmatt]

On a huge play too! You have no idea how weird it felt watching that.

Holy fuck...two more There goes one of my weekly predictions! Look at the Browns running up the score. Fuck, if Brady Quinn could go against Detroit's defense every week, he'd quickly become a viable NFL QB!

Did someone secretly slip me some really good LSD or am I really seeing this?

[Enigma869]

Did someone secretly slip me some really good LSD or am I really seeing this?

Dude...don't get all delusional on me. Your eyes aren't lying to you, but remember, they're playing DETROIT!

[Ehwmatt]

Did someone secretly slip me some really good LSD or am I really seeing this?

Dude...don't get all delusional on me. Your eyes aren't lying to you, but remember, they're playing DETROIT!

I know they are, but you have to understand how weird it is to see. I don't care if they're playing the local 4th grade flag football team, we aren't used to seeing double digits on our scoreboard... certainly not in the first half!

[Ehwmatt]

This game is unfolding just as I thought it would... hilariously!

[YoungJRNY]

Wow. There goes the Steelers season down the tubes. Pathetic. I wasn't over looking KC for a second. Terrible, terrible, terrible. They deserve every bit of it.

[YoungJRNY]

I can't believe they called a sweep on 4th and 2 to Mewelde Moore. Special teams a disaster. Steelers will be LUCKY to make the playoffs. Steelers are the best team at playing down to their competition.

[Rick]

Fuck KC just beat the Stealers......YES!!!!!YES!!!!YES!!!

[Enigma869]

I said it as recently as two weeks ago when Dan and Travis were trying to sell me on the Steelers being the team to beat (in fact, I think Dan pretty much said they would go to and win the Super Bowl)...The Steelers simply aren't that good. I think Roethlisberger has taken that next step, but their defense isn't nearly as good as it used to be. The Colts are absolutely THE TEAM to beat in the AFC. I'm still not writing the Steelers off out of a playoff spot, but they better get it together quickly or they'll be on the outside looking in!

[Ehwmatt]

CLEVELAND (AP)—Former Seattle and Green Bay coach Mike Holmgren is interested in working for the struggling Cleveland Browns.

Holmgren said on his weekly radio show on Seattle’s KJR that he has not yet spoken to Browns owner Randy Lerner, who is looking for a “serious, credible leader” football authority to run his struggling team. However, Holmgren did indicate he would welcome the chance to take on a rebuilding project like the 1-8 Browns.

“It takes a tremendous amount of energy, but there is a certain appeal there,” the 61-year-old Holmgren. “There’s something in my personality, too, that taking on those types of projects, that kind of gets me going. But there’s a lot of work to do.

“The important thing, going into any organization is that all of the principles, all of the decision makers are pointed in the same direction, with the same motives, the same desires, and then you have a chance.”

No way Mangini keeps his job if he bring Holmgren in, even if he is just a GM. Not that I think Mangini keeps his job regardless, but anyway.

Crazy loss for the Steelers. It really just goes to show how important Polamalu (and special teams to all NFL teams) to the Steelers. Travis, what happened on special teams this year? Did they lose someone or has it just become a weakness? Seems almost every game there's a takeback for 6

[Enigma869]

Travis, what happened on special teams this year? Did they lose someone or has it just become a weakness? Seems almost every game there's a takeback for 6

The Steelers are actually dead last in the entire NFL (ahead of teams like Carolina, St. Louis, Detroit, and Cleveland) for having given up the most non-offensive touchdowns in the entire league. The NFL is all about limiting mistakes, and the more you can limit them, the more successful the team usually is.

[Ehwmatt]

Travis, what happened on special teams this year? Did they lose someone or has it just become a weakness? Seems almost every game there's a takeback for 6

The Steelers are actually dead last in the entire NFL (ahead of teams like Carolina, St. Louis, Detroit, and Cleveland) for having given up the most non-offensive touchdowns in the entire league. The NFL is all about limiting mistakes, and the more you can limit them, the more successful the team usually is.

Last year they pulled out a LOT of close games after being in holes throughout the game, including the big one. This year the luck/clutch factor just hasn't quite been there. Such is life I guess.

[YoungJRNY]

CLEVELAND (AP)—Former Seattle and Green Bay coach Mike Holmgren is interested in working for the struggling Cleveland Browns.

Holmgren said on his weekly radio show on Seattle’s KJR that he has not yet spoken to Browns owner Randy Lerner, who is looking for a “serious, credible leader” football authority to run his struggling team. However, Holmgren did indicate he would welcome the chance to take on a rebuilding project like the 1-8 Browns.

“It takes a tremendous amount of energy, but there is a certain appeal there,” the 61-year-old Holmgren. “There’s something in my personality, too, that taking on those types of projects, that kind of gets me going. But there’s a lot of work to do.

“The important thing, going into any organization is that all of the principles, all of the decision makers are pointed in the same direction, with the same motives, the same desires, and then you have a chance.”

No way Mangini keeps his job if he bring Holmgren in, even if he is just a GM. Not that I think Mangini keeps his job regardless, but anyway.

Crazy loss for the Steelers. It really just goes to show how important Polamalu (and special teams to all NFL teams) to the Steelers. Travis, what happened on special teams this year? Did they lose someone or has it just become a weakness? Seems almost every game there's a takeback for 6

There's pretty much no excuse. Last season, the Steelers kick coverages were stout and the Steelers were one of the best teams last year at getting down field and hitting somebody. This year, they have many, many young guys on Special Teams (a place where spots were always won on the Steelers) and they are simply not getting down there and remain undisciplined in their lanes. We cut Anthony Madison (who resides on the Colts) who led special teams tackles in all the seasons he was with Pittsburgh and was one of the best players on kick coverages in the league. We took many starters off kick units like James Harrison and Brett Keisel and guys like Patrick Baily and Limas Sweed has replaced them. Something needs to change quick, since special teams are single handily losing games for the Steelers this season and special teams is a huge, huge part.

As far as losing tight games, the Steelers are starting to go down with injury and at this point this could hurt them on a stretch run that is now an uphill climb. We lost Aaron Smith for the season and his backup has missed games also. We lost all 4 games with Polamalu out of the lineup, and we just lost Chris Kemoeatu who is our best offensive guard at the moment, let alone losing Ben to concussion. Who knows the status with that but it's simple mathematics, we simply are blowing leads this season and that's a sign of a bad team. The Steelers have been here before, they were 7-5 in 2005 and needed to win out to even make the 6th seed. We need some good fortune from here on out or we will defiantly be on the outside looking in.

It is what it is, right now, the Steelers aren't that great. (They showed glimpses but self inflicted problems are a caution.) Hopefully that can change starting next week.

[YoungJRNY]

The Steelers are actually dead last in the entire NFL (ahead of teams like Carolina, St. Louis, Detroit, and Cleveland) for having given up the most non-offensive touchdowns in the entire league.

WOW! Great stat John....that's incredible to me. Also just heard Polomalu is out for the next 3 weeks so that ain't gonna help.

Just goes to show how bad Special Teams can really determine an outcome of the game, no matter who you are or how well you play on any side of the ball. The Steelers kept Cinci AND Denver out of the endzone in back to back weeks and they were still up against the wall during some crucial moments in both games. (Special Teams had a breakdown in Chicago, and against Minny when we took leads before the ensueing kickoffs as well as Cleveland.) It's 2001 all over again.

[squirt1]

The offence was inept all day and the defense 2 steps behind. Well, at least the Steelers and the Ravens blew up too.

[YoungJRNY]

YoungJRNY wrote:
Cincinnati at Oakland - I think this will be closer than anyone expects. I could be wrong but Oakland's defense is tough and is underrated because of the sewage they live in. Bengals are too tough and Oakland is outmatched. I want to say upset but it IS Oakland, so Cinci by 13. AH, what the hell, UPSET Oakland by 4! Surprised (Weird gut feeling on this one)

"YES, YES, YES, YES!!!!" Oakland comes through! Now only if the Steelers would of pulled through, the division is tied. Still, I'll take this and the Division is now back up for grabs! EVERYONE in the AFC North lost, so this week was a total wash, like it never happened. YEEEAA!

[Enigma869]

Also just heard Polomalu is out for the next 3 weeks so that ain't gonna help.

Polomalu is definitely a huge loss for the Steelers. I've always loved the way that guy plays football. I think the bigger issue for the Steelers is that Ben looked like he had a concussion (dude just didn't look right on the sidelines). The NFL doesn't fuck around with concussions any longer. Hell, I think Westbrook's career might be over based on his noggin being pounded the past couple of weeks. Without Ben, the Steelers aren't even in a playoff conversation.

[Enigma869]

What a fucked up day in the NFL. I'm not a big "power rankings" guy but as of right now, the top two teams in the AFC are the Colts and Patriots and the top two teams in the NFC are the Saints and Vikings. It should be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

[YoungJRNY]

Also just heard Polomalu is out for the next 3 weeks so that ain't gonna help.

Polomalu is definitely a huge loss for the Steelers. I've always loved the way that guy plays football. I think the bigger issue for the Steelers is that Ben looked like he had a concussion (dude just didn't look right on the sidelines). The NFL doesn't fuck around with concussions any longer. Hell, I think Westbrook's career might be over based on his noggin being pounded the past couple of weeks. Without Ben, the Steelers aren't even in a playoff conversation.

Agreed 100%. Without Ben, the Steelers are MAYBE a 7-9 team, and I'd go as far as saying we would of finished 4-12 last season without him and what he brings to the game. (The way he eludes the rush and how strong he is, is simply amazing, The Chiefs should have had atleast 5 sacks today easy.) Polamalu we miss IMMENSELY but he was hardly the 100% problem of losing the games as far as him out of the lineup. The Steelers have more problems than Troy, but Troy's absence is one of the deciding factors and is humongous to how we play on D. We have many potholes we need to fill and Troy is our first area of concern as we try to find ways to win without the man. Special teams needs to be turned inside out. I agree with your top 2 teams in each Conference. Pats/Colts & Saints/Vikes. Will be interesting indeed.

[Enigma869]

Next week is shaping up as a great football weekend..

Cleveland @ Cincinnati
Pittsburgh @ Baltimore

topped off with

New Engalnd @ New Orleans

This is why I love this time of the year....let the games begin..and give me some snow and rain and blood and guts.

Raiders still SUCK!

I get the Pittsburgh versus Baltimore matchup and the Patriots versus Saints, but how the fuck do you put Cincinatti versus the Girl Scouts? I know you're a Bengals fan, but if a game against the Browns is big news for you, then the Bengals aren't half as good as you're hoping they are. I've said all season that I don't think the Bengals will be a serious contender and based on today's game, they won't be. Really good teams can't lose to teams like Oakland.

[YoungJRNY]

Next week is shaping up as a great football weekend..

Cleveland @ Cincinnati
Pittsburgh @ Baltimore

topped off with

New Engalnd @ New Orleans

This is why I love this time of the year....let the games begin..and give me some snow and rain and blood and guts.

Raiders still SUCK!

Cleve and Cinci? lol.. anyway..The Raiders over the years, no matter how bad they are, always seem to pull out an upset that they have in their holster. They did so in 2006 against the Steelers, last year against the Jets (which I had a feeling for it) and this year against Cincy. Right now we are both licking wounds on the same side of the spectrum losing to two horrendous teams. The stage is set nonetheless for an exciting North battle.

[YoungJRNY]

Next week is shaping up as a great football weekend..

Cleveland @ Cincinnati
Pittsburgh @ Baltimore

topped off with

New Engalnd @ New Orleans

This is why I love this time of the year....let the games begin..and give me some snow and rain and blood and guts.

Raiders still SUCK!

I get the Pittsburgh versus Baltimore matchup and the Patriots versus Saints, but how the fuck do you put Cincinatti versus the Girl Scouts? I know you're a Bengals fan, but if a game against the Browns is big news for you, then the Bengals aren't half as good as you're hoping they are. I've said all season that I don't think the Bengals will be a serious contender and based on today's game, they won't be. Really good teams can't lose to teams like Oakland.

The Bengals Browns game is is the biggest of the year here...ok..maybe tied with the Stealers. I'm the one who has said don't count the Bengal chickens before they hatch. I wouldn't put it past the Bengals to lose to the Brownies. They nearly did last time. I've never jacked this team up some like others have of there teams. Haven't seen the consistency from them yet.

Last week you were fired up and gearing up for a playoff run when they signed Larry Johnson after they beat Pittsburgh. The NFL is set up on a week to week basis. It changes every damn week, literally, which makes it a pretty damn awesome sport. As far as consistency, I wouldn't say the word consistent against the Bungles this season. The Bungles actually have been pretty damn consistent all season long and are sitting 7-3, and swept the division. That's consistency, what concerns the Bengals is winning big games, let alone getting to the playoffs AND winning a game. I still think Cincy implodes but unfortunately for me the Steelers aren't too far behind the implosion bubble.

[Ehwmatt]

This Bears Eagles game is such an ugly, sloppy affair. Two mistake-prone teams that should be better than they are, but they're not!

[YoungJRNY]

How things can change in 1 season in the NFL. Like I told Matt, we were one of the best teams at kick coverage.

The Super Bowl season of 2008, the Steelers allowed no kickoff return touchdowns, and led the league in kickoff coverage, at 19.1 yards allowed.

In the last 5 games, the Steelers have allowed 4 Special Teams touchdowns. Pathetic.

[Ehwmatt]

How things can change in 1 season in the NFL. Like I told Matt, we were one of the best teams at kick coverage.

The Super Bowl season of 2008, the Steelers allowed no kickoff return touchdowns, and led the league in kickoff coverage, at 19.1 yards allowed.

In the last 5 games, the Steelers have allowed 4 Special Teams touchdowns. Pathetic.

That's crazy. Hey, guess what you yinzer queer, I'm coming to Cranberry on Wednesday night. You live at all close to there? We're probably gonna stay local places around there so we can get a ride back to my buddy's house, but we're gonna get fucked up.

[YoungJRNY]

How things can change in 1 season in the NFL. Like I told Matt, we were one of the best teams at kick coverage.

The Super Bowl season of 2008, the Steelers allowed no kickoff return touchdowns, and led the league in kickoff coverage, at 19.1 yards allowed.

In the last 5 games, the Steelers have allowed 4 Special Teams touchdowns. Pathetic.

That's crazy. Hey, guess what you yinzer queer, I'm coming to Cranberry on Wednesday night. You live at all close to there? We're probably gonna stay local places around there so we can get a ride back to my buddy's house, but we're gonna get fucked up.

Actually I'm about 20 min away from the Cranberry area. I'm listening..

[Enigma869]

This Bears Eagles game is such an ugly, sloppy affair. Two mistake-prone teams that should be better than they are, but they're not!

Cutler is AWFUL. He really needs to get on the same page with his receivers. The fucking guy isn't coming close to hitting any of these guys.

[Ehwmatt]

This Bears Eagles game is such an ugly, sloppy affair. Two mistake-prone teams that should be better than they are, but they're not!

Cutler is AWFUL. He really needs to get on the same page with his receivers. The fucking guy isn't coming close to hitting any of these guys.

Yes he is. He seems to have no confidence at all... I really thought this guy was gonna be something. Chicago doesn't seem like a great fit for him.

[YoungJRNY]

This Bears Eagles game is such an ugly, sloppy affair. Two mistake-prone teams that should be better than they are, but they're not!

Cutler is AWFUL. He really needs to get on the same page with his receivers. The fucking guy isn't coming close to hitting any of these guys.

Yes he is. He seems to have no confidence at all... I really thought this guy was gonna be something. Chicago doesn't seem like a great fit for him.

Missed 2 wide open receivers in consecutive plays early for GUARANTEED Td's. (Hester made a helluva double move.) The dude just isn't starter quality IMO, and I was in the same boat before the season and said he had major promise.

[Enigma869]

What the fuck is with Andy Reid and the towel around the neck? Dude looks like he's getting ready to take a dip in Lake Michigan