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Postby Jana » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:05 am

Gunbot wrote:I think he has talent but to go on a crusade to represent the Gay nation before he even accomplishes anything of significance seems to be a tad premature.
To already talk of discrimination seems like he wants to go down that path where if you don't like his music, you must be homophobic.


He said in the interview he wasn't for everyone. The discrimination he talked about was when an interviewer told him on the west coast they blocked his kiss with a man on stage, and he responded that would be discrimination if they did b/c female singers have been pushing the sex envelope for years on performances on TV and getting away with it and that he thought it was a double standard, i.e., Madonna kissing Britney and Christina got shown.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:11 am

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Gunbot wrote:I think he has talent but to go on a crusade to represent the Gay nation before he even accomplishes anything of significance seems to be a tad premature.
To already talk of discrimination seems like he wants to go down that path where if you don't like his music, you must be homophobic.


He said in the interview he wasn't for everyone. The discrimination he talked about was when an interviewer told him on the west coast they blocked his kiss with a man on stage, and he responded that would be discrimination if they did b/c female singers have been pushing the sex envelope for years on performances on TV and getting away with it and that he thought it was a double standard, i.e., Madonna kissing Britney and Christina got shown.


There was controversy about that too. Don't know where he's coming from with that. Yeah, people are going to react a little more adversely to male-on-male stuff. That seems to be human nature.

He's a fucking singer. Get your ass out there and sing and perform and don't pull any disgusting shenanigans like this. You're not supposed to be pushing sex envelopes, you're supposed to be singing and performing. Shoving a guy's head into your fuckin crotch isn't art or performing, not by a long shot, except maybe to some limpdicked extreme politically correct liberal.
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Postby JasonD » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:13 am

What he did was highly inappropriate for a family television show, but he’s getting exactly what he had hoped for. People are talking & he’s gaining recognition. Rebellious teens everywhere are living vicariously through this dude, & most would love to shove their crotch in the face of authority & rules.
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Postby Rhiannon » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:13 am

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Postby Don » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:14 am

Lambert, who performed his debut single For Your Entertainment, said that if people had been upset by his performance that it is a "form of discrimination and it's too bad".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8375994.stm


I think that can be only interpreted as us, the public being the ones he is addressing. Of course he can back-peddle and say he was taken out of context. That seems to be par for the course, don't accept blame, blame the reporter.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:15 am

Gunbot wrote:Lambert, who performed his debut single For Your Entertainment, said that if people had been upset by his performance that it is a "form of discrimination and it's too bad".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8375994.stm


I think that can be only interpreted as us, the public being the ones he is addressing. Of course he can back-peddle and say he was taken out of context. That seems to be par for the course, don't accept blame, blame the reporter.


Like I said, it's just like playing the race card. People aren't ok with seeing this kinda shit in any context and now he's trying to play it off as anti-Gay.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:24 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Gunbot wrote:Lambert, who performed his debut single For Your Entertainment, said that if people had been upset by his performance that it is a "form of discrimination and it's too bad".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8375994.stm


I think that can be only interpreted as us, the public being the ones he is addressing. Of course he can back-peddle and say he was taken out of context. That seems to be par for the course, don't accept blame, blame the reporter.


Like I said, it's just like playing the race card. People aren't ok with seeing this kinda shit in any context and now he's trying to play it off as anti-Gay.


He's whining like a bitch just to try and justify that stupid performance. To me, it is not about what he did, it is about what he did NOT do -as in act like a singer/musician. I don't care that he put on a sex show... whatever... the point is he wasn't doing what people want and expect... he might as well have rode around the stage on a giraffe making balloon animals because that was about as related to being a singer as what he did get up and do and that's why I won't take him seriously. He wants shock, he wants attention, and now he wants to cry like a little bitch. Fine. He's only making more of an ass out of himself.

So if you criticize his behavior for pulling a lame shock-value stunt, you're anti-gay? WHAT. EVER. ADAM. :roll: Dick.
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Postby Jana » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:52 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Jana wrote:
Gunbot wrote:I think he has talent but to go on a crusade to represent the Gay nation before he even accomplishes anything of significance seems to be a tad premature.
To already talk of discrimination seems like he wants to go down that path where if you don't like his music, you must be homophobic.


He said in the interview he wasn't for everyone. The discrimination he talked about was when an interviewer told him on the west coast they blocked his kiss with a man on stage, and he responded that would be discrimination if they did b/c female singers have been pushing the sex envelope for years on performances on TV and getting away with it and that he thought it was a double standard, i.e., Madonna kissing Britney and Christina got shown.


There was controversy about that too. Don't know where he's coming from with that. Yeah, people are going to react a little more adversely to male-on-male stuff. That seems to be human nature.

He's a fucking singer. Get your ass out there and sing and perform and don't pull any disgusting shenanigans like this. You're not supposed to be pushing sex envelopes, you're supposed to be singing and performing. Shoving a guy's head into your fuckin crotch isn't art or performing, not by a long shot, except maybe to some limpdicked extreme politically correct liberal.


Or one of the many closeted far right, family first, Evangelical homophobic/but-really-gay Republicans. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Jana » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:54 am

Well, he's getting them to ignore what is the most important thing: His singing sucked.
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Postby Deb » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:00 am

Jana wrote:
Gunbot wrote:I think he has talent but to go on a crusade to represent the Gay nation before he even accomplishes anything of significance seems to be a tad premature.
To already talk of discrimination seems like he wants to go down that path where if you don't like his music, you must be homophobic.


He said in the interview he wasn't for everyone. The discrimination he talked about was when an interviewer told him on the west coast they blocked his kiss with a man on stage, and he responded that would be discrimination if they did b/c female singers have been pushing the sex envelope for years on performances on TV and getting away with it and that he thought it was a double standard, i.e., Madonna kissing Britney and Christina got shown.


LOL, people are too busy posting strong opinions to actually stop and read your post, which actually makes sense. LOL some of the posts in here you would think the guy actually killed babies or something. He went for shock and awe and it failed......and yes, failed big time. He's got talent and still think he's a good singer (i.e., see Tracks Of My Tears on previous page). He effed up, but I'm pretty sure his career will carry on fine. :lol:

LOL, can't you just see that (crotchface) dancer dude blogging all his buddies the next day..........guess what happened to me! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Blueskies » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:17 am

Jana wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Jana wrote:
Gunbot wrote:I think he has talent but to go on a crusade to represent the Gay nation before he even accomplishes anything of significance seems to be a tad premature.
To already talk of discrimination seems like he wants to go down that path where if you don't like his music, you must be homophobic.


He said in the interview he wasn't for everyone. The discrimination he talked about was when an interviewer told him on the west coast they blocked his kiss with a man on stage, and he responded that would be discrimination if they did b/c female singers have been pushing the sex envelope for years on performances on TV and getting away with it and that he thought it was a double standard, i.e., Madonna kissing Britney and Christina got shown.


There was controversy about that too. Don't know where he's coming from with that. Yeah, people are going to react a little more adversely to male-on-male stuff. That seems to be human nature.

He's a fucking singer. Get your ass out there and sing and perform and don't pull any disgusting shenanigans like this. You're not supposed to be pushing sex envelopes, you're supposed to be singing and performing. Shoving a guy's head into your fuckin crotch isn't art or performing, not by a long shot, except maybe to some limpdicked extreme politically correct liberal.


Or one of the many closeted far right, family first, Evangelical homophobic/but-really-gay Republicans. :lol: :lol:


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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:39 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:
Jana wrote:
Gunbot wrote:I think he has talent but to go on a crusade to represent the Gay nation before he even accomplishes anything of significance seems to be a tad premature.
To already talk of discrimination seems like he wants to go down that path where if you don't like his music, you must be homophobic.


He said in the interview he wasn't for everyone. The discrimination he talked about was when an interviewer told him on the west coast they blocked his kiss with a man on stage, and he responded that would be discrimination if they did b/c female singers have been pushing the sex envelope for years on performances on TV and getting away with it and that he thought it was a double standard, i.e., Madonna kissing Britney and Christina got shown.


There was controversy about that too. Don't know where he's coming from with that. Yeah, people are going to react a little more adversely to male-on-male stuff. That seems to be human nature.

He's a fucking singer. Get your ass out there and sing and perform and don't pull any disgusting shenanigans like this. You're not supposed to be pushing sex envelopes, you're supposed to be singing and performing. Shoving a guy's head into your fuckin crotch isn't art or performing, not by a long shot, except maybe to some limpdicked extreme politically correct liberal.


Or one of the many closeted far right, family first, Evangelical homophobic/but-really-gay Republicans. :lol: :lol:


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Postby nikki » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:42 pm

I could care less what Adam Lambert tries to pass off as "art". I could also care less that he is gay. We get it. His performance was meant to shock, despite what he says. I wasn't offended by it, although I was offended by the fact that he chose to do this on a show that alot of pre-teen kids were probably watching. I just don't see why a musical perfomance has to be turned into soft core porn. The same thing also bothered me when Britney and Madonna did their thing not so long ago. If he wants to grind his crotch into another guys face, that's fine. Just don't do it when young kids are watching, that's all I'm saying.
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Postby Triple S » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:50 pm

nikki wrote:I could care less what Adam Lambert tries to pass off as "art". I could also care less that he is gay. We get it. His performance was meant to shock, despite what he says. I wasn't offended by it, although I was offended by the fact that he chose to do this on a show that alot of pre-teen kids were probably watching. I just don't see why a musical perfomance has to be turned into soft core porn. The same thing also bothered me when Britney and Madonna did their thing not so long ago. If he wants to grind his crotch into another guys face, that's fine. Just don't do it when young kids are watching, that's all I'm saying.


And the same could be said for the rappers who performed earlier in the broadcast, whose 'songs' were interrupted by several bleeps (I assume they were bleeping out offensive lyrics - but how would I know - I can't understand a word they're saying anyway)
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:51 pm

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nikki wrote:I could care less what Adam Lambert tries to pass off as "art". I could also care less that he is gay. We get it. His performance was meant to shock, despite what he says. I wasn't offended by it, although I was offended by the fact that he chose to do this on a show that alot of pre-teen kids were probably watching. I just don't see why a musical perfomance has to be turned into soft core porn. The same thing also bothered me when Britney and Madonna did their thing not so long ago. If he wants to grind his crotch into another guys face, that's fine. Just don't do it when young kids are watching, that's all I'm saying.


And the same could be said for the rappers who performed earlier in the broadcast, whose 'songs' were interrupted by several bleeps (I assume they were bleeping out offensive lyrics - but how would I know - I can't understand a word they're saying anyway)


Bottom line: Music is in a sad state in general.
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Postby nikki » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:54 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:
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nikki wrote:I could care less what Adam Lambert tries to pass off as "art". I could also care less that he is gay. We get it. His performance was meant to shock, despite what he says. I wasn't offended by it, although I was offended by the fact that he chose to do this on a show that alot of pre-teen kids were probably watching. I just don't see why a musical perfomance has to be turned into soft core porn. The same thing also bothered me when Britney and Madonna did their thing not so long ago. If he wants to grind his crotch into another guys face, that's fine. Just don't do it when young kids are watching, that's all I'm saying.


And the same could be said for the rappers who performed earlier in the broadcast, whose 'songs' were interrupted by several bleeps (I assume they were bleeping out offensive lyrics - but how would I know - I can't understand a word they're saying anyway)


Bottom line: Music is in a sad state in general.


There's something we can all agree on.
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Postby Jana » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:00 pm

Adam Lambert will be on Letterman tomorrow night, Wednesday. He will be performing a different song or songs than AMA song.
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Postby Triple S » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:39 pm

Jana wrote:Adam Lambert will be on Letterman tomorrow night, Wednesday. He will be performing a different song or songs than AMA song.


This one, apparently (written/co-written ? by Pink)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UglUzDc3 ... re=related
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Postby Jana » Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:45 pm

Triple S wrote:
Jana wrote:Adam Lambert will be on Letterman tomorrow night, Wednesday. He will be performing a different song or songs than AMA song.


This one, apparently (written/co-written ? by Pink)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UglUzDc3 ... re=related


You can hear Pink's influence on the song. Good song.
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Postby squirt1 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:21 pm

Jana- ABC drops Adam for tomorrow and CBS immediately picks him up on The Early Show which will be @ 52st & 5th, I think outdoors, in New York Wed. morn. He told ABC his show would be wild so they are the ones smelling like eggs. Adam will also be on Letterman tomorrow night. Now go back and listen on past AI songs and realize how good this guy really is. Listen to the songs on the new CD on I LIke and tell me when is the last time you heard singing to this caliber. For me it has been since 1991. I think this will be a big burp in his worldwide career. I don't think the $$$ promoters will throw at him will end I hope Queen still has a chance to have that talk, at least for a summer tour. Now, greedy TV networks clean up all the strange behavior and LYRICS we have had to endure for years !!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Abitaman » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:03 pm

Singers like Adam need to go away. If you have to have shock value to sell you music, then it is not worth buying. Should buy because it is good.
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Postby strangegrey » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:46 pm

Thats what people fail to remember about Freddie Mercury.

It wasn't that he was a cock smoker that made good music. It was that he was a great musician that happened to smoke cock in his free time.....BIG difference.


When pillow biters like lambert get that, they might have some success in the music business (since there's obviously enough tone-deaf buffoons out there that think the hyena cackle he produces with his semen coated larynx is musical)....

But when he walks out on stage and flaunts his "I take big steamy cock up the ass" person....it's a turn off....
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Postby Jana » Wed Nov 25, 2009 11:46 pm

WOW. Fantastic first song on CBS Morning Show, Whataya Want From Me. Star all the way. He looks just like a young Kurt Russell on this show. It's strange. He could be his son. He has all age groups out there to see him. Just as many forty-year-old women as young people in the audience. His wide demographic is interesting and bodes well for his CD.
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Postby Triple S » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:32 am

strangegrey wrote:Thats what people fail to remember about Freddie Mercury.

It wasn't that he was a cock smoker that made good music. It was that he was a great musician that happened to smoke cock in his free time.....BIG difference.


When pillow biters like lambert get that, they might have some success in the music business (since there's obviously enough tone-deaf buffoons out there that think the hyena cackle he produces with his semen coated larynx is musical)....

But when he walks out on stage and flaunts his "I take big steamy cock up the ass" person....it's a turn off....


Any chance you could just say you don't like something/someone, without resorting to this crap?

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Postby brywool » Thu Nov 26, 2009 3:57 am

Just listened to clips on Rollingstone.com of his album. Pretty cool actually. The first song sounds very Queen/Mica. I liked it. It's definitely a 'techno-eee' album. It'd be nice if there were more guitars and less keyboards and production, but it's actually fairly decent. Decent hooks and he hits some pretty high notes. I'm surprised. It's not really MR, but it's also not horrible. The production is overdone, but it's interesting to listen to. It's kind of like a male Britney Spears album I guess. I don't think I'd buy it, but it's certainly better than I expected.
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Postby Jana » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:07 am

"The early numbers are in, and Susan Boyle's first-week U.S. album sales are projected even higher than before!

SuBo's I Dreamed A Dream is expected to sell 550,000 copies this week - 50,000 more than what Billboard previously thought!

You go, SuBo!

And congrats to GaGa, who is expected to come in at #2 this week in first week sales by pushing an impressive 350,000 copies of The Fame Monster (200,000 copies of the EP and 150,000 copies of the deluxe version of the album)!

Glambert rounds out the top three with the expected sales of his debut album, For Your Entertainment, projected at being 225,000 by the week's close. Impressive!"
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Postby Don » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:14 am

Jana wrote:"The early numbers are in, and Susan Boyle's first-week U.S. album sales are projected even higher than before!

SuBo's I Dreamed A Dream is expected to sell 550,000 copies this week - 50,000 more than what Billboard previously thought!

You go, SuBo!

And congrats to GaGa, who is expected to come in at #2 this week in first week sales by pushing an impressive 350,000 copies of The Fame Monster (200,000 copies of the EP and 150,000 copies of the deluxe version of the album)!

Glambert rounds out the top three with the expected sales of his debut album, For Your Entertainment, projected at being 225,000 by the week's close. Impressive!"


Any other week and Gaga or Lambert would have debuted at #1. Great news for Susan.
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Postby Don » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:15 am

brywool wrote:Just listened to clips on Rollingstone.com of his album. Pretty cool actually. The first song sounds very Queen/Mica. I liked it. It's definitely a 'techno-eee' album. It'd be nice if there were more guitars and less keyboards and production, but it's actually fairly decent. Decent hooks and he hits some pretty high notes. I'm surprised. It's not really MR, but it's also not horrible. The production is overdone, but it's interesting to listen to. It's kind of like a male Britney Spears album I guess. I don't think I'd buy it, but it's certainly better than I expected.


I like the song from the 2012 soundtrack. His clear voice is a refreshing change from the graveled glass sound that seems to be very popular at the moment.
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Postby Abitaman » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:16 am

Is there anything in the top that worth listening too?
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Postby brywool » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:22 am

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brywool wrote:Just listened to clips on Rollingstone.com of his album. Pretty cool actually. The first song sounds very Queen/Mica. I liked it. It's definitely a 'techno-eee' album. It'd be nice if there were more guitars and less keyboards and production, but it's actually fairly decent. Decent hooks and he hits some pretty high notes. I'm surprised. It's not really MR, but it's also not horrible. The production is overdone, but it's interesting to listen to. It's kind of like a male Britney Spears album I guess. I don't think I'd buy it, but it's certainly better than I expected.


I like the song from the 2012 soundtrack. His clear voice is a refreshing change from the graveled glass sound that seems to be very popular at the moment.


Is that on his own album? There were a few very Mercury moments on his CD particularly in the slower songs. I was surprised to say the least. I can't stand looking at the guy, but if he can reel in his persona and just be a freakin' singer/artist, he could have a future that means something instead of being a flavor of the week. Peeps are pretty annoyed with him about the AMA thing. That was either very stupid on his part or brilliant. I tend to lean towards the latter though I thought the performance sucked, but it sure got people talking.
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