GO DISH!!!

[Behshad]

I'm all for Merry Christmas on everything. Not merry xmas

What? That's the same thing, just shorthand.

It takes the Christ out of Christmas...I don't life it either!!!

No it doesn't... the X is the Greek 'chi' in Christ's name.

I'm not Greek!!!

But you still like it in the ass???

[Michigan Girl]

I'm all for Merry Christmas on everything. Not merry xmas

What? That's the same thing, just shorthand.

It takes the Christ out of Christmas...I don't like it either!!!


lol^^^^^Nat!!

And I don't life it either too!

lol...I couldn't figure out what in the heck you were talking about, as usual, and then
I read me ...oops!!

Bob...I'm ignoring that comment...this is a Christmas Thread!!!

[Angel]

Why? youre one of them ???

Would that be a problem?

[Behshad]

Why? youre one of them ???

Would that be a problem?

not for me,

[StevePerryHair]

How about this... are we going to one day be disallowed from expressing "happy 4th of july" because of the huge number of immigrants hanging around here and the fact that they might be offended? Same principle! No, they have their Cinco de Mayos and Pulaski days and whatever that Puerto Rican holiday is in June... and we leave them alone about it, and they leave us alone about the 4th of july, so how is this any different? It's not. Let the rest of us smack "merry christmas" across everything and we'll let you alone with your hanukkahs and kwanzas and Atheismas (that's in August) and everything else.

I agree 100% but I think the main difference between Independence Day and Christmas s that Christmas is a religious holiday and religion is ALWAYS a hot topic-everyone has very strong feelings about religion in one way or another and everyone feels that their thoughts on religion are right. That's what creates so much controversy with Christmas.

It doesnt matter! If I would move to Israel, I wouldnt expect them to stop saying Shalom & Happy Hannuka to eachother just cause Im not a Jew.
People, regardless of their background, culture and religion need to realize that Christmas is more than just a religious celebration in this country.
wishing someone a Merry Christmas is not FORCING them to become a Christian!!! Funny how people allow mormons and JW's come to their door and preach their stuff, but God forbid if someone wishes them a MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!

I don't allow them... i don't answer my door... is that wrong

[Angel]

I don't allow them... i don't answer my door... is that wrong

Not at all. The way I see it, it's MY door, it's MY house and I choose who I open it for.

[Behshad]

How about this... are we going to one day be disallowed from expressing "happy 4th of july" because of the huge number of immigrants hanging around here and the fact that they might be offended? Same principle! No, they have their Cinco de Mayos and Pulaski days and whatever that Puerto Rican holiday is in June... and we leave them alone about it, and they leave us alone about the 4th of july, so how is this any different? It's not. Let the rest of us smack "merry christmas" across everything and we'll let you alone with your hanukkahs and kwanzas and Atheismas (that's in August) and everything else.

I agree 100% but I think the main difference between Independence Day and Christmas s that Christmas is a religious holiday and religion is ALWAYS a hot topic-everyone has very strong feelings about religion in one way or another and everyone feels that their thoughts on religion are right. That's what creates so much controversy with Christmas.

It doesnt matter! If I would move to Israel, I wouldnt expect them to stop saying Shalom & Happy Hannuka to eachother just cause Im not a Jew.
People, regardless of their background, culture and religion need to realize that Christmas is more than just a religious celebration in this country.
wishing someone a Merry Christmas is not FORCING them to become a Christian!!! Funny how people allow mormons and JW's come to their door and preach their stuff, but God forbid if someone wishes them a MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!

I don't allow them... i don't answer my door... is that wrong

I said PEOPLE

[StevePerryHair]

How about this... are we going to one day be disallowed from expressing "happy 4th of july" because of the huge number of immigrants hanging around here and the fact that they might be offended? Same principle! No, they have their Cinco de Mayos and Pulaski days and whatever that Puerto Rican holiday is in June... and we leave them alone about it, and they leave us alone about the 4th of july, so how is this any different? It's not. Let the rest of us smack "merry christmas" across everything and we'll let you alone with your hanukkahs and kwanzas and Atheismas (that's in August) and everything else.

I agree 100% but I think the main difference between Independence Day and Christmas s that Christmas is a religious holiday and religion is ALWAYS a hot topic-everyone has very strong feelings about religion in one way or another and everyone feels that their thoughts on religion are right. That's what creates so much controversy with Christmas.

It doesnt matter! If I would move to Israel, I wouldnt expect them to stop saying Shalom & Happy Hannuka to eachother just cause Im not a Jew.
People, regardless of their background, culture and religion need to realize that Christmas is more than just a religious celebration in this country.
wishing someone a Merry Christmas is not FORCING them to become a Christian!!! Funny how people allow mormons and JW's come to their door and preach their stuff, but God forbid if someone wishes them a MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!

I don't allow them... i don't answer my door... is that wrong

I said PEOPLE

And what am I?

[Since 78]

I'm all for Merry Christmas on everything. Not merry xmas

What? That's the same thing, just shorthand.

It takes the Christ out of Christmas...I don't like it either!!!


lol^^^^^Nat!!

And I don't life it either too!

lol...I couldn't figure out what in the heck you were talking about, as usual, and then
I read me ...oops!!

Bob...I'm ignoring that comment...this is a Christmas Thread!!!

Well, at least I always know what I'm talking about.

[Behshad]

How about this... are we going to one day be disallowed from expressing "happy 4th of july" because of the huge number of immigrants hanging around here and the fact that they might be offended? Same principle! No, they have their Cinco de Mayos and Pulaski days and whatever that Puerto Rican holiday is in June... and we leave them alone about it, and they leave us alone about the 4th of july, so how is this any different? It's not. Let the rest of us smack "merry christmas" across everything and we'll let you alone with your hanukkahs and kwanzas and Atheismas (that's in August) and everything else.

I agree 100% but I think the main difference between Independence Day and Christmas s that Christmas is a religious holiday and religion is ALWAYS a hot topic-everyone has very strong feelings about religion in one way or another and everyone feels that their thoughts on religion are right. That's what creates so much controversy with Christmas.

It doesnt matter! If I would move to Israel, I wouldnt expect them to stop saying Shalom & Happy Hannuka to eachother just cause Im not a Jew.
People, regardless of their background, culture and religion need to realize that Christmas is more than just a religious celebration in this country.
wishing someone a Merry Christmas is not FORCING them to become a Christian!!! Funny how people allow mormons and JW's come to their door and preach their stuff, but God forbid if someone wishes them a MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!

I don't allow them... i don't answer my door... is that wrong

I said PEOPLE

And what am I?

Greek?

[StevePerryHair]

How about this... are we going to one day be disallowed from expressing "happy 4th of july" because of the huge number of immigrants hanging around here and the fact that they might be offended? Same principle! No, they have their Cinco de Mayos and Pulaski days and whatever that Puerto Rican holiday is in June... and we leave them alone about it, and they leave us alone about the 4th of july, so how is this any different? It's not. Let the rest of us smack "merry christmas" across everything and we'll let you alone with your hanukkahs and kwanzas and Atheismas (that's in August) and everything else.

I agree 100% but I think the main difference between Independence Day and Christmas s that Christmas is a religious holiday and religion is ALWAYS a hot topic-everyone has very strong feelings about religion in one way or another and everyone feels that their thoughts on religion are right. That's what creates so much controversy with Christmas.

It doesnt matter! If I would move to Israel, I wouldnt expect them to stop saying Shalom & Happy Hannuka to eachother just cause Im not a Jew.
People, regardless of their background, culture and religion need to realize that Christmas is more than just a religious celebration in this country.
wishing someone a Merry Christmas is not FORCING them to become a Christian!!! Funny how people allow mormons and JW's come to their door and preach their stuff, but God forbid if someone wishes them a MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!

I don't allow them... i don't answer my door... is that wrong

I said PEOPLE

And what am I?

Greek?

Well I MIGHT be... I do like their food...

[Eric]

Tried to sign up today with them.....they couldn't find a line of sight to the sateliite that would have been able to provide locals, and the OTA only picked up half of them. Directv couldn't find a line of sight period....FIOS isn't here yet.

I am Stuck...I a mean STUCK with Cable right now.

Great sentiment too! MERRY CHRISTMAS!

[Eric]

I think the people that are "against" Christmas are against it because the US isn't supposed to have an official religion but you wouldn't know it the way Christmas (and other Christian holidays) are handled. No other religious celebration in the US is a federal holiday.

I love Christmas, not so much the religious part, but the season of lights and trees and gifts. I definitely don't have a problem with people saying or celebrating Christmas, but I do see where the resentment comes from.

I disagree somewhat. Its not Jewish folks who resent it, for example...its the PC folks looking for something to complain about. For the most part, the celebration is secular - like the lights and trees and goodwill you speak about. I feel Christmas time is a good description for all the Holidays this time of year. And most of us to celebrate it.

[Ehwmatt]

I think the people that are "against" Christmas are against it because the US isn't supposed to have an official religion but you wouldn't know it the way Christmas (and other Christian holidays) are handled. No other religious celebration in the US is a federal holiday.

I love Christmas, not so much the religious part, but the season of lights and trees and gifts. I definitely don't have a problem with people saying or celebrating Christmas, but I do see where the resentment comes from.

I disagree somewhat. Its not Jewish folks who resent it, for example...its the PC folks looking for something to complain about. For the most part, the celebration is secular - like the lights and trees and goodwill you speak about. I feel Christmas time is a good description for all the Holidays this time of year. And most of us to celebrate it.

Yeah, simply fuckin ridiculous to raise a stink about Christmas.

I've always had a question for these idiots - Why do you take Christmas Eve and Christmas off of work if you don't believe in it? I still haven't gotten an answer from any idiots I know

[JasonD]

‘Twas the night before Christmas and Santa’s a wreck…
How to live in a world that’s politically correct?
His workers no longer would answer to “Elves”.
The “Vertically Challenged” they were calling themselves.
And labour conditions that changed at the North Pole
were alleged by the union to stifle the soul.

Four reindeer had vanished, without much propriety,
Released to the wilds by the Humane Society.
And equal employment had made it quite clear
That Santa had better not use just reindeer.
So Dancer and Donner, Comet and Cupid
Were replaced with 4 pigs, and you know that looked stupid!

The runners had been removed from his sleigh;
The ruts were termed dangerous by the E.P.A.
And people had started to call for the cops
When they heard sled noises on their rooftops.
Second-hand smoke from his pipe had his workers quite frightened.
His fur trimmed red suit was called “Unenlightened.”

And to show you the strangeness of life’s ebbs and flows,
Rudolf filed suit for unauthorised use of his nose
He had gone on Geraldo, in front of the nation,
Demanding millions in over-due compensation.
So, half of the reindeer were gone; and his wife,
Who suddenly said she’d enough of this life,

Joined a self-help group, packed, as she left in a whiz,
Demanding from now on her title was Ms.
And as for the gifts, why, he’d never had a notion
That making a choice could cause so much commotion.
There was nothing of leather and nothing of fur,
Which meant there was nothing for him or for her.

Nothing that might be construed to pollute.
Nothing to aim, Nothing to shoot.
Nothing that clamoured or made lots of noise.
Nothing just "girls," and nothing just "boys."
There was nothing that claimed to be gender specific.
Nothing that’s warlike or non-pacifistic.

No candy or sweets…they were bad for the tooth.
Nothing that seemed to embellish a truth.
And fairy tales, while not yet forbidden,
Were like Ken and Barbie, better off hidden.
For they raised the hackles of those psychological
Who claimed the only good gift was one ecological.

No baseball, no football.... lest someone get hurt;
Besides, playing sports exposes kids to the dirt.
Dolls were said to be sexist, and should be passe;
And Nintendo would rot your entire brain away.
So Santa just stood there, dishevelled, perplexed;
He just could not decide what he was 'sposed to do next.

He tried to be merry, he tried to be gay,
But you’ve got to be careful with that word today.
His sack was quite empty and limp to the ground;
Nothing fully acceptable was to be found.
Something special was needed, a gift that he might
Give to all without angering the left or the right.

A gift that would satisfy, with no indecision,
Each sub-group of people and every religion;
Every ethnicity, every hue,
Everyone, everywhere…and, yes, even you.
So here is that gift, it’s price beyond worth…
May you and your loved ones, enjoy peace on Earth.

Author: Unknown

[G.I.Jim]

I'm all for Merry Christmas on everything. Not merry xmas

What? That's the same thing, just shorthand.

It takes the Christ out of Christmas...I don't life it either!!!

No it doesn't... the X is the Greek 'chi' in Christ's name.

I'm not Greek!!!

But you still like it in the ass???

Not very nice my friend...

[A. M. Scott]

I'm all for Merry Christmas on everything. Not merry xmas

What? That's the same thing, just shorthand.

It takes the Christ out of Christmas...I don't life it either!!!

No it doesn't... the X is the Greek 'chi' in Christ's name.

I'm not Greek!!!

But you still like it in the ass???

Not very nice my friend...

i quote!!! It wasn't really nice! :-@

[Rick]

Anyone see the new Coke 2 litres? Fuckers have put Feliz Navidad 2009 on one side of the label....yet the other side says Holiday 2009!!

WTF, they can say Merry Christmas in Spanish but not in English? Screw Coke!

I'd be willing to guess most Spanish are Christians and wouldn't likely fight the label.

Thats not the point,,, I bet you no jews or muslims or hindus would get mad at Merry Christmas messages.... Christmas is more than just a religous celeberation. Its been a TRADITION in this country for ages. Those who take offense to it, should know there are many different option for them to leave this country and enjoy a christmas-free December somewhere far far away from this country

So then who exactly are these sue happy individuals? Would you suggest they are Christians? I think not. I'm not saying other religions would be offended by it, but SOMEONE has fought it enough for it to come to this, and it wasnt' the Christians. Christmas is a Christian holiday. Anyone can celebrate it and call it what they want, but that's what it is. I can celebrate Kawanza and Hanukka all I want and have a great time, but they are still African/religious and Jewish celebrations. My kids are in public school and they HAVE to celebrate holidays in our county here. They don't call it a christmas party, it's a holiday party. And they have to learn about kawanza and hanukka. To make sure they are including other religious beliefs too. Do you think it's the Christians pushing that? Christmas has "CHRIST" in it and that IS the point.

no I think its MORONS pushing that, regardless of their religion... most probably dont even practice a religion,,, and youd be surprised that there are actually christians that would think its inappropriate to say merry christmas cause they dont want others to feel left out and mainly cause they have no balls

Christians have to be tolerant of every other religions traditions, right? They can kiss my balls if Christmas offends them.

[Monker]

Exactly....it's a lot of political BS made by Republicans and Conservatives to cause people to get all huffy because of this 'war' that doesn't exist. I know for a fact that a few years ago O'Reilly made a stink that Kohl's made some policy that their employees could not say "Merry Christmas." It was complete lie. When executives complained, they were ignored by both O'Rielly and FOX.

It's just political mish-mash and mind games.

Anyone see the new Coke 2 litres? Fuckers have put Feliz Navidad 2009 on one side of the label....yet the other side says Holiday 2009!!

WTF, they can say Merry Christmas in Spanish but not in English? Screw Coke!

I'd be willing to guess most Spanish are Christians and wouldn't likely fight the label.

Thats not the point,,, I bet you no jews or muslims or hindus would get mad at Merry Christmas messages.... Christmas is more than just a religous celeberation. Its been a TRADITION in this country for ages. Those who take offense to it, should know there are many different option for them to leave this country and enjoy a christmas-free December somewhere far far away from this country

So then who exactly are these sue happy individuals? Would you suggest they are Christians? I think not. I'm not saying other religions would be offended by it, but SOMEONE has fought it enough for it to come to this, and it wasnt' the Christians. Christmas is a Christian holiday. Anyone can celebrate it and call it what they want, but that's what it is. I can celebrate Kawanza and Hanukka all I want and have a great time, but they are still African/religious and Jewish celebrations. My kids are in public school and they HAVE to celebrate holidays in our county here. They don't call it a christmas party, it's a holiday party. And they have to learn about kawanza and hanukka. To make sure they are including other religious beliefs too. Do you think it's the Christians pushing that? Christmas has "CHRIST" in it and that IS the point.

[Monker]

I think the people that are "against" Christmas are against it because the US isn't supposed to have an official religion but you wouldn't know it the way Christmas (and other Christian holidays) are handled. No other religious celebration in the US is a federal holiday.

I love Christmas, not so much the religious part, but the season of lights and trees and gifts. I definitely don't have a problem with people saying or celebrating Christmas, but I do see where the resentment comes from.

Christmas was not originaly a Christian. It was adopted from worshiping the 'birthday' of one of the Greek or Roman gods....to make it easier to convert Romans from paganism. It is even less 'Christian' nowadays since it has been enfused with Norse celebrations and elves. Trees with lights, and such, have very little to do with Christ.

The truth is that Christians stole Christmas from pagans.

[StevePerryHair]

I think the people that are "against" Christmas are against it because the US isn't supposed to have an official religion but you wouldn't know it the way Christmas (and other Christian holidays) are handled. No other religious celebration in the US is a federal holiday.

I love Christmas, not so much the religious part, but the season of lights and trees and gifts. I definitely don't have a problem with people saying or celebrating Christmas, but I do see where the resentment comes from.

Christmas was not originaly a Christian. It was adopted from worshiping the 'birthday' of one of the Greek or Roman gods....to make it easier to convert Romans from paganism. It is even less 'Christian' nowadays since it has been enfused with Norse celebrations and elves. Trees with lights, and such, have very little to do with Christ.

The truth is that Christians stole Christmas from pagans.

At the point it was named "Christmas" it became a christian holiday. And practicing christians DO focus as much on Christ in their Christmas as they do the "secular" parts.

And I should add, most Christians don't look at Christmas as even being that important of a celebration. Not as important as Easter and what it symbolizes and the start of the church calendars.

[Arianddu]

Personally I like the Pastafarian/Flying Spaghetti Monster idea of celebrating "Holiday" - which is pretty much whenever and however you want.

[Monker]

I think the people that are "against" Christmas are against it because the US isn't supposed to have an official religion but you wouldn't know it the way Christmas (and other Christian holidays) are handled. No other religious celebration in the US is a federal holiday.

I love Christmas, not so much the religious part, but the season of lights and trees and gifts. I definitely don't have a problem with people saying or celebrating Christmas, but I do see where the resentment comes from.

Christmas was not originaly a Christian. It was adopted from worshiping the 'birthday' of one of the Greek or Roman gods....to make it easier to convert Romans from paganism. It is even less 'Christian' nowadays since it has been enfused with Norse celebrations and elves. Trees with lights, and such, have very little to do with Christ.

The truth is that Christians stole Christmas from pagans.

At the point it was named "Christmas" it became a christian holiday. And practicing christians DO focus as much on Christ in their Christmas as they do the "secular" parts.

And I should add, most Christians don't look at Christmas as even being that important of a celebration. Not as important as Easter and what it symbolizes and the start of the church calendars.

Ah, Easter. You mean the celebration of the Spring equinox, the end of winter and the coming warmer climate and the festivals celebrating the pagan god Eastre? Or, did they steal it from the Jews? Probably a little of both.

Geez, Christians steal alot of holidays, huh?

Then they get all upset about Halloween...probably because it is one pagan holiday they couldn't steal. Not that they didn't try!

[Monker]

Personally I like the Pastafarian/Flying Spaghetti Monster idea of celebrating "Holiday" - which is pretty much whenever and however you want.

Isn't that Festivus?

[Behshad]

It's a fact that more non Christians celebrate Christmas than Christians(who actually practice the religion)

[Rick]

Personally I like the Pastafarian/Flying Spaghetti Monster idea of celebrating "Holiday" - which is pretty much whenever and however you want.

Isn't that Festivus?

The best show ever.

[Behshad]

Personally I like the Pastafarian/Flying Spaghetti Monster idea of celebrating "Holiday" - which is pretty much whenever and however you want.

Isn't that Festivus?

[StevePerryHair]

I think the people that are "against" Christmas are against it because the US isn't supposed to have an official religion but you wouldn't know it the way Christmas (and other Christian holidays) are handled. No other religious celebration in the US is a federal holiday.

I love Christmas, not so much the religious part, but the season of lights and trees and gifts. I definitely don't have a problem with people saying or celebrating Christmas, but I do see where the resentment comes from.

Christmas was not originaly a Christian. It was adopted from worshiping the 'birthday' of one of the Greek or Roman gods....to make it easier to convert Romans from paganism. It is even less 'Christian' nowadays since it has been enfused with Norse celebrations and elves. Trees with lights, and such, have very little to do with Christ.

The truth is that Christians stole Christmas from pagans.

At the point it was named "Christmas" it became a christian holiday. And practicing christians DO focus as much on Christ in their Christmas as they do the "secular" parts.

And I should add, most Christians don't look at Christmas as even being that important of a celebration. Not as important as Easter and what it symbolizes and the start of the church calendars.

Ah, Easter. You mean the celebration of the Spring equinox, the end of winter and the coming warmer climate and the festivals celebrating the pagan god Eastre? Or, did they steal it from the Jews? Probably a little of both.

Geez, Christians steal alot of holidays, huh?

Then they get all upset about Halloween...probably because it is one pagan holiday they couldn't steal. Not that they didn't try!

The Christians were pretty smart. What better way to convert people than to adopt some of their traditions to get them to join up And not ALL Christian churches get upset over halloween.

[artist4perry]

I think the people that are "against" Christmas are against it because the US isn't supposed to have an official religion but you wouldn't know it the way Christmas (and other Christian holidays) are handled. No other religious celebration in the US is a federal holiday.

I love Christmas, not so much the religious part, but the season of lights and trees and gifts. I definitely don't have a problem with people saying or celebrating Christmas, but I do see where the resentment comes from.

Christmas was not originaly a Christian. It was adopted from worshiping the 'birthday' of one of the Greek or Roman gods....to make it easier to convert Romans from paganism. It is even less 'Christian' nowadays since it has been enfused with Norse celebrations and elves. Trees with lights, and such, have very little to do with Christ.

The truth is that Christians stole Christmas from pagans.

At the point it was named "Christmas" it became a christian holiday. And practicing christians DO focus as much on Christ in their Christmas as they do the "secular" parts.

And I should add, most Christians don't look at Christmas as even being that important of a celebration. Not as important as Easter and what it symbolizes and the start of the church calendars.

Ah, Easter. You mean the celebration of the Spring equinox, the end of winter and the coming warmer climate and the festivals celebrating the pagan god Eastre? Or, did they steal it from the Jews? Probably a little of both.

Geez, Christians steal alot of holidays, huh?

Then they get all upset about Halloween...probably because it is one pagan holiday they couldn't steal. Not that they didn't try!

I am a christian who does not celebrate Christmas as a Christian holiday, but I enjoy it as a holiday, as well as Halloween. Yes it was originally a Pagan holiday I have heard. No big deal. But isn't it nice that the first ammendent protects the right to celebrate religion freely? So those who look at it as religious, put out your nativity sets, I like them. I celebrate his birth and death every day since we have no dates that are set in stone on either. Put out your hannikah stuff, and Kwanza decorations. All are pretty.


Ari, I can make your cards for your monster holiday...........it would be fun!

[StevePerryHair]

It's a fact that more non Christians celebrate Christmas than Christians(who actually practice the religion)

That still doen't make it any less of a Christian holiday. And if you focus on only the secular, it is a totally different meaning. And I'm NOT knocking those who do, but I know how I feel about Christmas as a Christian. But I also enjoy the secular parts.