Calling Gator

[NealIsGod]

And oh yeah, ND needs a QB, as Clausen just declared this morning. Good luck golden boy, you'll need it playing in St Louis or Jacksonville. I think he will make it ahead of Tebow, and be drafted a lot higher than Tim as well.

Yeah, ND will go into the spring with one healthy QB, a freshman. The next coach will have his work cut out for him.

Clausen should be a great NFL QB with the right team. Jax will do whatever it takes to get Tebow so they can sell tix.

[ScarabGator]

Sports is entertainment. Doesn't affect your life. People who get depressed for more than 15 minutes over a team losing need to check their priorities.

That's right, you should be fighting over a band or something!!!

amen gorgeous!!!!!

[ScarabGator]

One more thing:

win or lose


ITS GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!!

[Angel]

One more thing:

win or lose


ITS GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!!

+1
(Even though I'm only an honorary Gator.)

[ScarabGator]

I wonder if Meyer will allow that Drunk Duncan to play in the Bowl Game? I bet he does. He is a huge factor.

he should let carlos dunlap play. He served his punishment. What, do we need to put him in front of a firing squad? He made a mistake, he missed the biggest game of the year, couldnt even travel with the team. Now lets move on and introduce Mr. Dunlap to the bearcats.

[X factor]

Come on Dean, you know that while some of those teams were down this year (Georgia) the SEC is still top to bottom the most talented conference. Texas and Cinncinnati will know that very soon.

Didn't you just learn not to write checks your mouth can't cash? Last year Utah smoked the 2nd place SEC team. The PAC 10 went 6-0. If UT beats Bama and Cincy beats UF, then what will the spin be? You can't have it both ways. You can't talk it up and fail on the field, then fall back on the "well we're down this year" card. The PAC 10 has been down for 5 years and still goes 5-1, 4-2 and 6-0 in bowl games but I don't talk about them being the best. Right now though, their best 5 teams are better than the SEC's top 5 no doubt.

I can Cincy running over and through UF's defense. You got exposed last week to the run. Your defense is not that good. Playing Troy, FLA Intl and Vandy will inflate the stats.

I want to see the PAC 10 play the SEC in a bowl game.

Maybe, dude- but the PAC 10 (and NO other conference really) has to play as tough of a conference schedule year in and year out as the SEC. These guys get beat up during the year like no other conference. Sure, sometimes a USC or a Utah can beat them in one game. Let those boys play an entire season in the SEC and we'll see. Even Vandy and my beloved UK aren't the bottom feeders they once were (though Vandy did suck mighty hard this year). I just don't think any other conference is a balanced as the SEC.

[ScarabGator]

One more thing:

win or lose


ITS GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!!

+1
(Even though I'm only an honorary Gator.)

and the Gator Nation welcomes you!!! Now step back from the pc and do a big ass Gator chomp with your arms!!!!!

[Angel]

One more thing:

win or lose


ITS GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!!

+1
(Even though I'm only an honorary Gator.)

and the Gator Nation welcomes you!!! Now step back from the pc and do a big ass Gator chomp with your arms!!!!!

You got it darlin!

[ScarabGator]

Come on Dean, you know that while some of those teams were down this year (Georgia) the SEC is still top to bottom the most talented conference. Texas and Cinncinnati will know that very soon.

Didn't you just learn not to write checks your mouth can't cash? Last year Utah smoked the 2nd place SEC team. The PAC 10 went 6-0. If UT beats Bama and Cincy beats UF, then what will the spin be? You can't have it both ways. You can't talk it up and fail on the field, then fall back on the "well we're down this year" card. The PAC 10 has been down for 5 years and still goes 5-1, 4-2 and 6-0 in bowl games but I don't talk about them being the best. Right now though, their best 5 teams are better than the SEC's top 5 no doubt.

I can Cincy running over and through UF's defense. You got exposed last week to the run. Your defense is not that good. Playing Troy, FLA Intl and Vandy will inflate the stats.

I want to see the PAC 10 play the SEC in a bowl game.

Maybe, dude- but the PAC 10 (and NO other conference really) has to play as tough of a conference schedule year in and year out as the SEC. These guys get beat up during the year like no other conference. Sure, sometimes a USC or a Utah can beat them in one game. Let those boys play an entire season in the SEC and we'll see. Even Vandy and my beloved UK aren't the bottom feeders they once were (though Vandy did suck mighty hard this year). I just don't think any other conference is a balanced as the SEC.

X Man, you are speaking the truth!!!!! Are you a Wildcat fan? If so, they had a great season! My dad was originally from Kentucky, left there when he went military.

[portland]

One more thing:

win or lose


ITS GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!!

Great to be a Steve Perry fan too.......oops sorry wrong thread!!

[Angel]

One more thing:

win or lose


ITS GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!!

Great to be a Steve Perry fan too.......oops sorry wrong thread!!

Yeah, the Gator boys cover up their junk when they play..........

[lights1961]

One more thing:

win or lose


ITS GREAT TO BE A FLORIDA GATOR!!!!!

Great to be a Steve Perry fan too.......oops sorry wrong thread!!

classic.

[Enigma869]

This will probably be the first year that a Quarterback won't be taken number 1 overall.

Huh? You do realize that Mario Williams was taken as the number one overall pick by the Texans just a few years back, right? Not to mention KiJana Carter, Russell Maryland, Courtney Brown (still trying to figure that one out), Orlando Pace, Dan Wilkinson, and even Keyshawn Johnson were all number one overall picks!

[Ehwmatt]

This will probably be the first year that a Quarterback won't be taken number 1 overall.

Huh? You do realize that Mario Williams was taken as the number one overall pick by the Texans just a few years back, right? Not to mention KiJana Carter, Russell Maryland, Courtney Brown (still trying to figure that one out), Orlando Pace, Dan Wilkinson, and even Keyshawn Johnson were all number one overall picks!

Don't try and figure out the Browns drafting philosophy/rationale... that is an intellectual challenge far above you and fit only for football masterminds like Butch Davis, Phil Savage, and Eric Manweenie

[hoagiepete]

I have always disliked Florida, Florida State and Miami. They all come across as thugs, hot dogs and anything but student athletes. They have time and time again demonstrated they possess little to no class.

Having said that, the way Tim Tebow conducted himself this past weekend was admirable. He convinced me he is a class guy and I wish him well. It is one thing to look and sound good in victory, but to do so after such a crushing loss on such a big stage, I found it to be an impressive show of character. To be that emotionally upset (which I don't blame him) and collecting himself so quickly in front of millions of viewers...wow.

Now I wish I'd have followed his career and accomplishments a little closer.

[Ehwmatt]

I have always disliked Florida, Florida State and Miami. They all come across as thugs, hot dogs and anything but student athletes. They have time and time again demonstrated they possess little to no class.

Having said that, the way Tim Tebow conducted himself this past weekend was admirable. He convinced me he is a class guy and I wish him well. It is one thing to look and sound good in victory, but to do so after such a crushing loss on such a big stage, I found it to be an impressive show of character. To be that emotionally upset (which I don't blame him) and collecting himself so quickly in front of millions of viewers...wow.

Now I wish I'd have followed his career and accomplishments a little closer.

I disagree... his crying, however heartfelt it might have been, took away from Bama's victory and put the attention on him when it should have been focused solely on a dominant and victorious Bama team.

[AlteredDNA]

I have always disliked Florida, Florida State and Miami. They all come across as thugs, hot dogs and anything but student athletes. They have time and time again demonstrated they possess little to no class.

Having said that, the way Tim Tebow conducted himself this past weekend was admirable. He convinced me he is a class guy and I wish him well. It is one thing to look and sound good in victory, but to do so after such a crushing loss on such a big stage, I found it to be an impressive show of character. To be that emotionally upset (which I don't blame him) and collecting himself so quickly in front of millions of viewers...wow.

Now I wish I'd have followed his career and accomplishments a little closer.

I disagree... his crying, however heartfelt it might have been, took away from Bama's victory and put the attention on him when it should have been focused solely on a dominant and victorious Bama team.

Hmm...I don't think Tebow told CBS where to point their cameras...

[Angel]

I disagree... his crying, however heartfelt it might have been, took away from Bama's victory and put the attention on him when it should have been focused solely on a dominant and victorious Bama team.

You may be right, but I highly doubt that he was crying just for attention and further more, it's not his fault, it was the media's fault for choosing to focus on him in his tearful state on the sidelines instead of on the winning team, he didn't have control over that.

[Don]

Andy Staples sums it up here.

"Whether you consider him genuine or fake, Tebow, at the end of the day, is a Heisman Trophy-, SEC- and BCS-title winning quarterback who goes to class, goes to church and circumcises people less fortunate than him. More people should be so intolerable."

While I certainly understand why non-Florida fans are "tired" of Tebow hype, the fact that so many people are actively hoping for the kid to fail is a really sad commentary on society. Fortunately, there's no shortage of money-driven/steroid-abusing/wife-cheating superstars they can root for in the pros who don't have the audacity to quote bible scripture or high-five their fans."

[Ehwmatt]

I disagree... his crying, however heartfelt it might have been, took away from Bama's victory and put the attention on him when it should have been focused solely on a dominant and victorious Bama team.

You may be right, but I highly doubt that he was crying just for attention and further more, it's not his fault, it was the media's fault for choosing to focus on him in his tearful state on the sidelines instead of on the winning team, he didn't have control over that.

Yes, in fairness to you and DNA, you are both right, he didn't have control over the cameras. However, Tebow is not an imbecile and he has been around for a while. He had to know that all of that crying certainly wasn't going to be ignored by the media. I understand he was emotional and it was out of his control to an extent. But, I don't think crying and taking deserving attention away from the victor is laudable or commendable.

[Michigan Girl]

Andy Staples sums it up here.

"Whether you consider him genuine or fake, Tebow, at the end of the day, is a Heisman Trophy-, SEC- and BCS-title winning quarterback who goes to class, goes to church and circumcises people less fortunate than him. More people should be so intolerable."

While I certainly understand why non-Florida fans are "tired" of Tebow hype, the fact that so many people are actively hoping for the kid to fail is a really sad commentary on society. Fortunately, there's no shortage of money-driven/steroid-abusing/wife-cheating superstars they can root for in the pros who don't have the audacity to quote bible scripture or high-five their fans."

Well if this isn't the quote of the day!!
Now, I'm anxiously awaiting another Tiger~girl to pop out of the woodwork!!

[AlteredDNA]

I disagree... his crying, however heartfelt it might have been, took away from Bama's victory and put the attention on him when it should have been focused solely on a dominant and victorious Bama team.

You may be right, but I highly doubt that he was crying just for attention and further more, it's not his fault, it was the media's fault for choosing to focus on him in his tearful state on the sidelines instead of on the winning team, he didn't have control over that.

Yes, in fairness to you and DNA, you are both right, he didn't have control over the cameras. However, Tebow is not an imbecile and he has been around for a while. He had to know that all of that crying certainly wasn't going to be ignored by the media. I understand he was emotional and it was out of his control to an extent. But, I don't think crying and taking deserving attention away from the victor is laudable or commendable.

You make it sound like that's the main reason he was crying - to take something away from the other team. Do you really think that thought even entered his mind?

[Angel]

Yes, in fairness to you and DNA, you are both right, he didn't have control over the cameras. However, Tebow is not an imbecile and he has been around for a while. He had to know that all of that crying certainly wasn't going to be ignored by the media. I understand he was emotional and it was out of his control to an extent. But, I don't think crying and taking deserving attention away from the victor is laudable or commendable.

So you honestly think that Tebow made a conscious effort to cry simply to divert attention from Alabama???? C'mon dude.......really??????

[Ehwmatt]

I disagree... his crying, however heartfelt it might have been, took away from Bama's victory and put the attention on him when it should have been focused solely on a dominant and victorious Bama team.

You may be right, but I highly doubt that he was crying just for attention and further more, it's not his fault, it was the media's fault for choosing to focus on him in his tearful state on the sidelines instead of on the winning team, he didn't have control over that.

Yes, in fairness to you and DNA, you are both right, he didn't have control over the cameras. However, Tebow is not an imbecile and he has been around for a while. He had to know that all of that crying certainly wasn't going to be ignored by the media. I understand he was emotional and it was out of his control to an extent. But, I don't think crying and taking deserving attention away from the victor is laudable or commendable.

You make it sound like that's the main reason he was crying - to take something away from the other team. Do you really think that thought even entered his mind?

Honestly, yes. I don't think it was outright intentional, no, but I do think he was quite aware of what would happen.

It's like throwing an angry tantrum when you lose, tossing your helmet or slamming equipment around. You might be swallowed up in the emotion of the whole thing, but in the back of your mind you know you are attracting all kinds of attention. An athlete on the level of Tebow would certainly be cognizant of all that.

I'm not saying it was the worst thing in the world to do. All I'm saying is that it wasn't some high level of class and that he had to know the attention that would result from the display. He shoulda reeled it in accordingly or put his helmet on or something. He seems like a classy dude in many other respects, but this is not evidence of it no matter which way you spin it.

[hoagiepete]

I have always disliked Florida, Florida State and Miami. They all come across as thugs, hot dogs and anything but student athletes. They have time and time again demonstrated they possess little to no class.

Having said that, the way Tim Tebow conducted himself this past weekend was admirable. He convinced me he is a class guy and I wish him well. It is one thing to look and sound good in victory, but to do so after such a crushing loss on such a big stage, I found it to be an impressive show of character. To be that emotionally upset (which I don't blame him) and collecting himself so quickly in front of millions of viewers...wow.

Now I wish I'd have followed his career and accomplishments a little closer.

I disagree... his crying, however heartfelt it might have been, took away from Bama's victory and put the attention on him when it should have been focused solely on a dominant and victorious Bama team.

You can blame CBS and the media for that, not Tebow. CBS seems to be the worst. They do it all the time during March Madness (remember Grant Hill's parents?, was there anyone else on the Duke team but Christian Laetner?, who is playing the game...Pitino or his players? etc.).

I reiterate my disdain for the Florida programs, but am still impressed by Tebow.

[Ehwmatt]

Yes, in fairness to you and DNA, you are both right, he didn't have control over the cameras. However, Tebow is not an imbecile and he has been around for a while. He had to know that all of that crying certainly wasn't going to be ignored by the media. I understand he was emotional and it was out of his control to an extent. But, I don't think crying and taking deserving attention away from the victor is laudable or commendable.

So you honestly think that Tebow made a conscious effort to cry simply to divert attention from Alabama???? C'mon dude.......really??????

Please read what I'm saying before letting your Gator/Tebow fever guide your fingers along the keyboard. It was not a classy thing to do and he knew the attention that would result. He was not thinking "I'm gonna get these fuckers back by stealing their camera time," but he knew and shoulda stepped away and let Bama have their moment.

[Ehwmatt]

I have always disliked Florida, Florida State and Miami. They all come across as thugs, hot dogs and anything but student athletes. They have time and time again demonstrated they possess little to no class.

Having said that, the way Tim Tebow conducted himself this past weekend was admirable. He convinced me he is a class guy and I wish him well. It is one thing to look and sound good in victory, but to do so after such a crushing loss on such a big stage, I found it to be an impressive show of character. To be that emotionally upset (which I don't blame him) and collecting himself so quickly in front of millions of viewers...wow.

Now I wish I'd have followed his career and accomplishments a little closer.

I disagree... his crying, however heartfelt it might have been, took away from Bama's victory and put the attention on him when it should have been focused solely on a dominant and victorious Bama team.

You can blame CBS and the media for that, not Tebow. CBS seems to be the worst. They do it all the time during March Madness (remember Grant Hill's parents?, was there anyone else on the Duke team but Christian Laetner?, who is playing the game...Pitino or his players? etc.).

I reiterate my disdain for the Florida programs, but am still impressed by Tebow.

He seems like a good guy. I am not an outright hater. SIck of the hype/love affair, yes, but not a hater. This just wasn't one of his finer or more impressive moments in my eyes.

[Angel]

*DISCLAIMER*

AlteredDNA and I ARE in fact, TWO different beings who apparently share a brain......

[Angel]

He seems like a good guy. I am not an outright hater. SIck of the hype/love affair, yes, but not a hater. This just wasn't one of his finer or more impressive moments in my eyes.

You know what....for the most part, I tend to agree with you....if this had not been such a big game, and IF this had not been his senior year.....I would have been right there with you on the "big boys don't cry" thing.....I have a son that plays sports and from the first day he played t-ball I have always told him that he had better, under no circumstance, ever, ever, cry during a game unless he's severely hurt.....but, that game HAD to be very emotional for Tebow-so I'm cutting him some slack for that....now, if he goes to the NFL and cries when he loses....then I'll call him a freakin' pansy!!!!!

Edited because I am a bonehead and I put NBA instead of NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Acutally, that was the Altered DNA side of my brain that did that....not the Angel side....

[Ehwmatt]

He seems like a good guy. I am not an outright hater. SIck of the hype/love affair, yes, but not a hater. This just wasn't one of his finer or more impressive moments in my eyes.

You know what....for the most part, I tend to agree with you....if this had not been such a big game, and IF this had not been his senior year.....I would have been right there with you on the "big boys don't cry" thing.....I have a son that plays sports and from the first day he played t-ball I have always told him that he had better, under no circumstance, ever, ever, cry during a game unless he's severely hurt.....but, that game HAD to be very emotional for Tebow-so I'm cutting him some slack for that....now, if he goes to the NFL and cries when he loses....then I'll call him a freakin' pansy!!!!!

Edited because I am a bonehead and I put NBA instead of NFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Acutally, that was the Altered DNA side of my brain that did that....not the Angel side....

I am not denigrating the emotional aspect of it, believe me... even if he won it would have been emotional for him. I know from my own experience playing athletics... that last college match/game is REALLY hard, win or lose (ok, technically his second to last game). It was perfectly alright for him to be upset about it. I just wish he woulda reeled it in a lot. Honestly, I don't think people would fault him for the crying in and of itself... at least not as much. It's really the sum of the parts. The bible eye black, the media hype, getting blown out, crying a LOT about it etc... those all build on each other, ya know? Throw in excessive media coverage and you get a lot of resentment.