Where were these teachers when I was in school?

[Enigma869]

I think I'd still be in high school if my teachers were like this

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/12 ... chool.html

[hoagiepete]

Holy crap! I fully expected to see a couple of gals that looked more like my uncle Fred or Rosie O'Donnell! Man!!!!

[bluejeangirl76]

I heard about this several days ago... lol.. was wondering when it was going to hit MR.

And WHY is it that every time a female teacher is caught doing something inappropriate like this (like the ones who were having sex with students), guys always say stupid shit like "Where were these teachers when I was in school... durrrrrrrr."

Um... that is gross and inappropriate for SCHOOL no matter what. It's not cool and it's not funny.

And yes I have a stick in my ass about this kind of behavior in a school environment. Frickin' stupid whores. I heard somewhere they were tenured though... I hope not. They SHOULD be fired and never allowed to work in a school again.

[Enigma869]

And WHY is it that every time a female teacher is caught doing something inappropriate like this (like the ones who were having sex with students), guys always say stupid shit like "Where were these teachers when I was in school... durrrrrrrr."

Let me take a stab at this...um...because we're guys?

Um... that is gross and inappropriate for SCHOOL

I would venture to guess that most teenagers who attend that high school are probably doing many of the same "activities". For what it's worth, we at least agree that they probably shouldn't have been performing cunnilingus while at school

no matter what. It's not cool and it's not funny.

Just so I'm VERY clear, I never once suggested that it was "funny". Hot and sexy? Fuck, yes. Funny wasn't really my angle

Frickin' stupid whores.

Now...if you combine this conclusion with the previous question you asked about why men always ask "Where were these teachers when I was in school", the question might just answer itself

[Ehwmatt]

I heard about this several days ago... lol.. was wondering when it was going to hit MR.

And WHY is it that every time a female teacher is caught doing something inappropriate like this (like the ones who were having sex with students), guys always say stupid shit like "Where were these teachers when I was in school... durrrrrrrr."

Um... that is gross and inappropriate for SCHOOL no matter what. It's not cool and it's not funny.

And yes I have a stick in my ass about this kind of behavior in a school environment. Frickin' stupid whores. I heard somewhere they were tenured though... I hope not. They SHOULD be fired and never allowed to work in a school again.

Haha, because banging an older woman is always cool in a guy's book. Yes, there is a huge double standard, and i have a problem with women hitting men being passed off as okay like I've been covering in the Tiger thread, but for me this is just different. It may not be logical or right to think it's ok for a late 20s, early 30 something or hot 40something woman to fuck a young guy, but it just doesn't rub me the same way as flipping the gender there. For better or worse, once a boy reaches like say... 16, it's fuckin sweet for that guy. Under 15 and maybe I have a problem with it... definitely 13 and under...

Yes it's a double standard, but what do you want from me. I woulda loved to fuck a teacher like that back in those days...

[bluejeangirl76]

Um... that is gross and inappropriate for SCHOOL

I would venture to guess that most teenagers who attend that high school are probably doing many of the same "activities". For what it's worth, we at least agree that they probably shouldn't have been performing cunnilingus while at school

I was not talking about the teenagers. I'm talking about adults having sex either IN the school, or in the semi-related stories of adults having sex with students.

Just so I'm VERY clear, I never once suggested that it was "funny". Hot and sexy? Fuck, yes. Funny wasn't really my angle

Saying stuff like "where were teachers like this when I was in school" is kind of making light of it, though. I heard the same things with that Mary Kay Letourneau story, and other stories of teachers doing that stuff. Saying it's hot and sexy is, in a way, making light of it too. There's nothing acceptable about it.

Frickin' stupid whores.

Now...if you combine this conclusion with the previous question you asked about why men always ask "Where were these teachers when I was in school", the question might just answer itself

Well, if that's what turns guys on, a couple of chicks who can't wait til they get to a motel to dive into the muff buffet (muffet?), and have to do it in a school, and it makes guys wish their teachers did that, then my "men are fucking pigs" steroetype holds up just as well as my stereotyping these chicks as stupid whores does.

[portland]

I think this falls into men only tend to think with one thing.....and well it's not the one that is normally used for thinking.

[bluejeangirl76]

I think this falls into men only tend to think with one thing.....and well it's not the one that is normally used for thinking.

I heard this story on Howard Stern a few days ago, and the whole discussion centered around "What the hell is wrong with these women? IN SCHOOL they're doing this?" etc. So yeah... even the HS crew was weirded out by it.

Apparently one of the two teachers was not exctly an appropriate person to start with, wearing really questionable clothing to school and showing off her tramp stamp and other tattoos, tight clothes, etc.

[Enigma869]

I was not talking about the teenagers.

Well, I am, because it's a high school, and as far as I know, it's full of teenagers.

stories of adults having sex with students.

Completely different issue. No children were harmed in the making of this rendevous

Saying stuff like "where were teachers like this when I was in school" is kind of making light of it, though.

That was my entire point.

I heard the same things with that Mary Kay Letourneau story, and other stories of teachers doing that stuff. Saying it's hot and sexy is, in a way, making light of it too. There's nothing acceptable about it.

i
Sorry, these two stories are NOT analogous. Mary Kay Letourneau had sex with an under age student at her school. I'm a dad and would certainly NEVER condone some teacher boning my son, while she's supposed to be molding a different part of his anatomy As far as I can tell, the two whores (as you so eloquently put it) involved in this story are consenting adults and weren't having sex with under age children.

my "men are fucking pigs" steroetype holds up

I'm not sure how any man could even begin to argue against that stereotype (at least not with a straight face). Men are absolutely pigs. Even the women who think "My man would never do or think something like that" are fucking delusional. Men are men, and we're all animals when it comes to certain things. Some of us are simply better at fooling our spouses/partners than others are.

[NealIsGod]

The janitor should be fired, or sent to work at an all male school.

[Michigan Girl]

It is not just men~this students sleeping w/teacher thang was going on before I was in school, while I was
in school and it's still going on!! Is it right? no...but I guarantee you 99% of the time it's
mutual and the students, guys and girls alike all brag about it. These things are never a secret,
most folks just choose to ignore it...until they can't!!

[hoagiepete]

I was not talking about the teenagers.

Well, I am, because it's a high school, and as far as I know, it's full of teenagers.

stories of adults having sex with students.

Completely different issue. No children were harmed in the making of this rendevous

Saying stuff like "where were teachers like this when I was in school" is kind of making light of it, though.

That was my entire point.

I heard the same things with that Mary Kay Letourneau story, and other stories of teachers doing that stuff. Saying it's hot and sexy is, in a way, making light of it too. There's nothing acceptable about it.

i
Sorry, these two stories are NOT analogous. Mary Kay Letourneau had sex with an under age student at her school. I'm a dad and would certainly NEVER condone some teacher boning my son, while she's supposed to be molding a different part of his anatomy As far as I can tell, the two whores (as you so eloquently put it) involved in this story are consenting adults and weren't having sex with under age children.

my "men are fucking pigs" steroetype holds up

I'm not sure how any man could even begin to argue against that stereotype (at least not with a straight face). Men are absolutely pigs. Even the women who think "My man would never do or think something like that" are fucking delusional. Men are men, and we're all animals when it comes to certain things. Some of us are simply better at fooling our spouses/partners than others are.

Damn it John. Now why did you go and let his information out????

[portland]

I was not talking about the teenagers.

Well, I am, because it's a high school, and as far as I know, it's full of teenagers.

stories of adults having sex with students.

Completely different issue. No children were harmed in the making of this rendevous

Saying stuff like "where were teachers like this when I was in school" is kind of making light of it, though.

That was my entire point.

I heard the same things with that Mary Kay Letourneau story, and other stories of teachers doing that stuff. Saying it's hot and sexy is, in a way, making light of it too. There's nothing acceptable about it.

i
Sorry, these two stories are NOT analogous. Mary Kay Letourneau had sex with an under age student at her school. I'm a dad and would certainly NEVER condone some teacher boning my son, while she's supposed to be molding a different part of his anatomy As far as I can tell, the two whores (as you so eloquently put it) involved in this story are consenting adults and weren't having sex with under age children.

my "men are fucking pigs" steroetype holds up

I'm not sure how any man could even begin to argue against that stereotype (at least not with a straight face). Men are absolutely pigs. Even the women who think "My man would never do or think something like that" are fucking delusional. Men are men, and we're all animals when it comes to certain things. Some of us are simply better at fooling our spouses/partners than others are.

Well at least you admit to the above.........most don't

[Ehwmatt]

I'm a dad and would certainly NEVER condone some teacher boning my son, while she's supposed to be molding a different part of his anatomy

No, but I'll bet you'd be mighty proud of him.

I'm not sure how any man could even begin to argue against that stereotype (at least not with a straight face). Men are absolutely pigs. Even the women who think "My man would never do or think something like that" are fucking delusional. Men are men, and we're all animals when it comes to certain things. Some of us are simply better at fooling our spouses/partners than others are.

Well said

[Jana]

It is not just men~this students sleeping w/teacher thang was going on before I was in school, while I was
in school and it's still going on!! Is it right? no...but I guarantee you 99% of the time it's
mutual and the students, guys and girls alike all brag about it. These things are never a secret,
most folks just choose to ignore it...until they can't!!

yep. We had a classmate sleeping with our hunky 26 year old football coach and other girls bragged about being with some of the younger teachers, My brother was a science teacher, and two of his single friends who were late 20s and coaches on the high school level had fooled around with 16 and 17 year olds. Things got out when they bragged to their close friends. It goes on a lot more than you think. I don't know about now. But now it seems like the female teachers are doing the fooling around with the students. I keep seeing a story pop up all the time.

[Ehwmatt]

It is not just men~this students sleeping w/teacher thang was going on before I was in school, while I was
in school and it's still going on!! Is it right? no...but I guarantee you 99% of the time it's
mutual and the students, guys and girls alike all brag about it. These things are never a secret,
most folks just choose to ignore it...until they can't!!

yep. We had a classmate sleeping with our hunky 26 year old football coach and other girls bragged about being with some of the younger teachers, My brother was a science teacher, and two of his single friends who were late 20s and coaches on the high school level had fooled around with 16 and 17 year olds. Things got out when they bragged to their close friends. It goes on a lot more than you think. I don't know about know. But know it seems like the female teachers are doing the fooling around with the students. I keep seeing a story pop up all the time.

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

[bluejeangirl76]

I was not talking about the teenagers.

Well, I am, because it's a high school, and as far as I know, it's full of teenagers.

*FACEPALM*

It wasn't the students that were caught eating each other out!!

I'm not sure how any man could even begin to argue against that stereotype (at least not with a straight face). Men are absolutely pigs. Even the women who think "My man would never do or think something like that" are fucking delusional. Men are men, and we're all animals when it comes to certain things. Some of us are simply better at fooling our spouses/partners than others are.

Agreed. I've about heard every male lie in the book and I can spot them a mile away. Y'all ain't fooling us. "My man wouldn't do that/ think that..." is just as delusional as mothers who say "Noooo, not MY child! MY child would never... he/she is such a good kid..." Yeah, perhaps he or she is a good kid, but you know what, every now and then little Hannah or Dakota or Braxton is going to screw up and another parent is going to come to you and say "Hey, your little Dakota just shoved my little Brianna's bratz doll in the dog's ass, and the dog kinda liked it, so will you please do something about your kid!?"

"Hey, your husband is staring at my (or my wife's) boobs, do you mind?" - Nooooo, not my husband...." Bull. Throw a pillow and blanket on the couch, because you KNOW he was doing it.

[YoungJRNY]

It is not just men~this students sleeping w/teacher thang was going on before I was in school, while I was
in school and it's still going on!! Is it right? no...but I guarantee you 99% of the time it's
mutual and the students, guys and girls alike all brag about it. These things are never a secret,
most folks just choose to ignore it...until they can't!!

yep. We had a classmate sleeping with our hunky 26 year old football coach and other girls bragged about being with some of the younger teachers, My brother was a science teacher, and two of his single friends who were late 20s and coaches on the high school level had fooled around with 16 and 17 year olds. Things got out when they bragged to their close friends. It goes on a lot more than you think. I don't know about know. But know it seems like the female teachers are doing the fooling around with the students. I keep seeing a story pop up all the time.

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it. As far as this shit going on in school, I remember back in my 8th grade year where our hot reading teacher got fired for banging members of the basketball team. Pretty crazy!

[YoungJRNY]

I was not talking about the teenagers.

Well, I am, because it's a high school, and as far as I know, it's full of teenagers.

*FACEPALM*

It wasn't the students that were caught eating each other out!!

I'm not sure how any man could even begin to argue against that stereotype (at least not with a straight face). Men are absolutely pigs. Even the women who think "My man would never do or think something like that" are fucking delusional. Men are men, and we're all animals when it comes to certain things. Some of us are simply better at fooling our spouses/partners than others are.

Agreed. I've about heard every male lie in the book and I can spot them a mile away. Y'all ain't fooling us. "My man wouldn't do that/ think that..." is just as delusional as mothers who say "Noooo, not MY child! MY child would never... he/she is such a good kid..." Yeah, perhaps he or she is a good kid, but you know what, every now and then little Hannah or Dakota or Braxton is going to screw up and another parent is going to come to you and say "Hey, your little Dakota just shoved my little Brianna's bratz doll in the dog's ass, and the dog kinda liked it, so will you please do something about your kid!?"

"Hey, your husband is staring at my (or my wife's) boobs, do you mind?" - Nooooo, not my husband...." Bull. Throw a pillow and blanket on the couch, because you KNOW he was doing it.

Braxton? Dakota? Why not Joe or Steve? Nice to keep it fresh!

[Ehwmatt]

It is not just men~this students sleeping w/teacher thang was going on before I was in school, while I was
in school and it's still going on!! Is it right? no...but I guarantee you 99% of the time it's
mutual and the students, guys and girls alike all brag about it. These things are never a secret,
most folks just choose to ignore it...until they can't!!

yep. We had a classmate sleeping with our hunky 26 year old football coach and other girls bragged about being with some of the younger teachers, My brother was a science teacher, and two of his single friends who were late 20s and coaches on the high school level had fooled around with 16 and 17 year olds. Things got out when they bragged to their close friends. It goes on a lot more than you think. I don't know about know. But know it seems like the female teachers are doing the fooling around with the students. I keep seeing a story pop up all the time.

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it. As far as this shit going on in school, I remember back in my 8th grade year where our hot reading teacher got fired for banging members of the basketball team. Pretty crazy!

Hell, it's not even necessarily limited to physical traits either... I know girls who were always attractive but quiet/shy for whatever reason who finally broke out of their shells who I could see being like this too

[NealIsGod]

Yet another teacher at that school is in hot water. Is the team mascot a Cougar?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2009/12 ... te_le.html

[bluejeangirl76]

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it.

That was me. Not that I turned into a supermodel or anything, but I was really blah, and shy and flat and every other thing no young girl wants to be. And yes, still psyched out about it. Every rejection takes me back to high school, like, "clearly, I'm not good enough". Much of the time I can go the extra necessary step and finish it with "clearly I'm not good enough and if that's the case, then FUCK THAT GUY for being stupid." But not all the time. Can't always get past it. Happens.

[Ehwmatt]

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it.

That was me. Not that I turned into a supermodel or anything, but I was really blah, and shy and flat and every other thing no young girl wants to be. And yes, still psyched out about it. Every rejection takes me back to high school, like, "clearly, I'm not good enough". Much of the time I can go the extra necessary step and finish it with "clearly I'm not good enough and if that's the case, then FUCK THAT GUY for being stupid." But not all the time. Can't always get past it. Happens.

My experience is that that happens to every one at one time or another, even the supposed Casanovas of high school past and present...

[Jana]

It is not just men~this students sleeping w/teacher thang was going on before I was in school, while I was
in school and it's still going on!! Is it right? no...but I guarantee you 99% of the time it's
mutual and the students, guys and girls alike all brag about it. These things are never a secret,
most folks just choose to ignore it...until they can't!!

yep. We had a classmate sleeping with our hunky 26 year old football coach and other girls bragged about being with some of the younger teachers, My brother was a science teacher, and two of his single friends who were late 20s and coaches on the high school level had fooled around with 16 and 17 year olds. Things got out when they bragged to their close friends. It goes on a lot more than you think. I don't know about now. But now it seems like the female teachers are doing the fooling around with the students. I keep seeing a story pop up all the time.

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it. As far as this shit going on in school, I remember back in my 8th grade year where our hot reading teacher got fired for banging members of the basketball team. Pretty crazy!

Hell, it's not even necessarily limited to physical traits either... I know girls who were always attractive but quiet/shy for whatever reason who finally broke out of their shells who I could see being like this too

Good points. We've had quite a few in the paper in Orange and surrounding counties in the last couple of years of female teachers you wouldn't expect it from, especially after all the publicity about teachers being arrested. But one boy was 14. I find that so strange.

[KenTheDude]

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it.

That was me. Not that I turned into a supermodel or anything, but I was really blah, and shy and flat and every other thing no young girl wants to be. And yes, still psyched out about it. Every rejection takes me back to high school, like, "clearly, I'm not good enough". Much of the time I can go the extra necessary step and finish it with "clearly I'm not good enough and if that's the case, then FUCK THAT GUY for being stupid." But not all the time. Can't always get past it. Happens.

Really? I don't see how you could get very many rejections nowadays.

[YoungJRNY]

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it.

That was me. Not that I turned into a supermodel or anything, but I was really blah, and shy and flat and every other thing no young girl wants to be. And yes, still psyched out about it. Every rejection takes me back to high school, like, "clearly, I'm not good enough". Much of the time I can go the extra necessary step and finish it with "clearly I'm not good enough and if that's the case, then FUCK THAT GUY for being stupid." But not all the time. Can't always get past it. Happens.

My experience is that that happens to every one at one time or another, even the supposed Casanovas of high school past and present...

Dude, some JACKOFF and a NOBODY cheated on Halle Berry! Halle Fucking Berry! Humans are humans and will make stupid descisions or put someone down by it but being rejected shouldn't cripple ones demeanor, it happens to ALL of us. For the record, I'm going to pull a Scarab Gator and go on record to say that BJG is a cutie.

[portland]

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it.

That was me. Not that I turned into a supermodel or anything, but I was really blah, and shy and flat and every other thing no young girl wants to be. And yes, still psyched out about it. Every rejection takes me back to high school, like, "clearly, I'm not good enough". Much of the time I can go the extra necessary step and finish it with "clearly I'm not good enough and if that's the case, then FUCK THAT GUY for being stupid." But not all the time. Can't always get past it. Happens.

Hey well all have that in us....it's the I am not pretty enough or good enough syndrome.....I can totally relate.

[YoungJRNY]

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it.

That was me. Not that I turned into a supermodel or anything, but I was really blah, and shy and flat and every other thing no young girl wants to be. And yes, still psyched out about it. Every rejection takes me back to high school, like, "clearly, I'm not good enough". Much of the time I can go the extra necessary step and finish it with "clearly I'm not good enough and if that's the case, then FUCK THAT GUY for being stupid." But not all the time. Can't always get past it. Happens.

Hey well all have that in us....it's the I am not pretty enough or good enough syndrome.....I can totally relate.

That "not good enough" theory is not the way to perceive things. I'm a firm believer that there is someone out there for ANYONE and see it every day with people that seem out of their league, or people that you would think would NOT match up judging by appearance but they have great relationships.

[bluejeangirl76]

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it.

That was me. Not that I turned into a supermodel or anything, but I was really blah, and shy and flat and every other thing no young girl wants to be. And yes, still psyched out about it. Every rejection takes me back to high school, like, "clearly, I'm not good enough". Much of the time I can go the extra necessary step and finish it with "clearly I'm not good enough and if that's the case, then FUCK THAT GUY for being stupid." But not all the time. Can't always get past it. Happens.

Really? I don't see how you could get very many rejections nowadays.

People keep saying that to me. Yet my date for tonight dinner and shopping with a chick friend. Whatever. I know what lies beneath and I know I'm good enough. Anyone who doesn't see that can go screw off. And for the guys who hurt us so much we forget how good we are, they can go screw off DOUBLE. Karma is one serious bitch. Ask my former spouse.

[Ehwmatt]

I'd be curious to know the proportion of these female teachers that were "late bloomers" if you get my drift... the kinda girl no one gave a second look to in high school that only later got contacts/got skinny/grew her hair out/just plain old filled out in a normal way etc. that really ratcheted up her attractiveness. There must be some kinda psychological thing going on where they are trying to retrieve their youth or live the youth they never did... cuz most of them I've seen are at least reasonably attractive women.

No doubt and that's and excellent way of putting it. I can't TELL you how many chicks that were considered "blah" who turned out to be gorgeous in their mature years but yet, remain physicked out of it.

That was me. Not that I turned into a supermodel or anything, but I was really blah, and shy and flat and every other thing no young girl wants to be. And yes, still psyched out about it. Every rejection takes me back to high school, like, "clearly, I'm not good enough". Much of the time I can go the extra necessary step and finish it with "clearly I'm not good enough and if that's the case, then FUCK THAT GUY for being stupid." But not all the time. Can't always get past it. Happens.

Really? I don't see how you could get very many rejections nowadays.

People keep saying that to me. Yet my date for tonight dinner and shopping with a chick friend. Whatever. I know what lies beneath and I know I'm good enough. Anyone who doesn't see that can go screw off. And for the guys who hurt us so much we forget how good we are, they can go screw off DOUBLE. Karma is one serious bitch. Ask my former spouse.

What happened to him, he get his balls chopped off? It wasn't you was it?