W.E.T - If I Fall

by **Duncan** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:52 am

Just noticed the little guitar lick at 5min 13 sec. Nice touch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWoaB95d ... re=related

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Now playing: Genesis - Like It Or Not

by **Onestepper** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:47 am

After really spending some time listening to this track, I really do think it's strong. But I just wish JSS would have taken his vocals a bit higher near the end of the song. Obviously it may have been out of his range, but even some strain can add to the depth of a track when done right. I think it really could have made a difference with this song.

by **slucero** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:05 am

This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

by **SYNCH** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:32 am

Great song!

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:43 am

One of the first things I noticed about the song :lol:

- The whole guitar track is pretty much Schon by the numbers. Fuck, I played along with the song the first time I ever even heard it and I almost knew which note to fret next along with the track..

by **Jana** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:26 pm

slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this combination of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and this lineup.

by **portland** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:27 pm

Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

by **Jana** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:41 pm

portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:42 pm

Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

Brothers in Arms is one of the best on there... rock too hard for ya, Arneliot? :lol:

by **Jana** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:47 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

Brothers in Arms is one of the best on there... rock too hard for ya, Arneliot?

I'm a Pinhead, Matt. :lol:

The problem probably is JSS's voice on some songs, especially the rockers, sounds the same song to song without different shades of tone for me and maybe that's the problem with Brothers in Arms. But there's quiet a few I really like on here and that Jeff is great on, and some stunnng songs. I wouldn't call it a Masterpiece album, though, or a straight listen through for me.

Of course, most people don't like the music I listen to anyway. :wink:

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:49 pm

Jana wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

Brothers in Arms is one of the best on there... rock too hard for ya, Arneliot?

I'm a Pinhead, Matt.

The problem probably is JSS's voice on some songs, especially the rockers, sounds the same song to song without different shades of tone for me and maybe that's the problem with Brothers in Arms. But there's quiet a few I really like on here and that Jeff is great on, and some stunnng songs. I wouldn't call it a Masterpiece album, though, or a straight listen through for me.

Of course, most people don't like the music I listen to anyway.

I know whatcha mean there. I'm not a huge JSS fan in the sense that I don't own a lot of his CDs besides Lost In The Translation and Soul Sirkus, but I love WET. I know what you mean - sometimes I feel like he doesn't quite exploit his whole range with his voice. "One Day at a Time" is a great glimpse of everything he can do with his voice I think - I'd love to hear that full range more often.

by **YoungJRNY** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:54 pm

This whole CD kicks ass. In fact, I'm listening to it right now. Great mixture of flow between songs and chorus. Just an awesome performance across the board.

by **portland** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 1:59 pm

Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

No surprise here my friend I love Brothers in Arms...... :wink:

by **portland** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:05 pm

Jana wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

Brothers in Arms is one of the best on there... rock too hard for ya, Arneliot?

I'm a Pinhead, Matt.

The problem probably is JSS's voice on some songs, especially the rockers, sounds the same song to song without different shades of tone for me and maybe that's the problem with Brothers in Arms. But there's quiet a few I really like on here and that Jeff is great on, and some stunnng songs. I wouldn't call it a Masterpiece album, though, or a straight listen through for me.

Of course, most people don't like the music I listen to anyway.

Only in this place.....people call themselves Pinheads and Loons and consider it a compliment!!! :lol:

by **Jana** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:10 pm

portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

No surprise here my friend I love Brothers in Arms......

Ok. Back to my music of the night. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFe6oqtjD_8

by **Ehwmatt** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:11 pm

Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

No surprise here my friend I love Brothers in Arms......

Ok. Back to my music of the night. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFe6oqtjD_8

I LOVE that song - by far my favorite Depeche Mode tune. Way up on my all-time most played list on iTunes... Not great live singing there though... haven't found a good live performance of that tune yet.

by **Jana** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 2:27 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

No surprise here my friend I love Brothers in Arms......

Ok. Back to my music of the night. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFe6oqtjD_8

I LOVE that song - by far my favorite Depeche Mode tune. Way up on my all-time most played list on iTunes... Not great live singing there though... haven't found a good live performance of that tune yet.

No, it's not his best vocals and he's usually spot on. I have never found a great video of that song either. There's some great vocals on this song on different venues for their tour in 2009, but not very good video up close, unfortunately. It is one of my favorites of theirs definitely. On the internet from this tour I guess there is a bootleg DVD being sold of the entire concert from Madison Square Garden.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN9-QCjPYCE

by **ScarabGator** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:07 pm

JSS is the man...should actually still be the man. You guys know he rocks too hard for these Pinheads. And has way more soul. Great song. I would recommend picking this CD up instead of another Journey thing with arnie boy.

by **Liquid_Drummer** » Tue Dec 15, 2009 11:13 pm

Electronic drums ? WTF ? I like the song too but the drum sound is very lacking IMHO.

by **Duncan** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:59 am

You have all picked up on the DSB guitar lick at 5m 13 sec right? Very cool

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Now playing: Jeremy Nail - Lucky Girl

by **Ehwmatt** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 1:47 am

Duncan wrote:You have all picked up on the DSB guitar lick at 5m 13 sec right? Very cool

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Now playing: Jeremy Nail - Lucky Girl

yes, and the Who's Crying Now lick shortly after. Like I said, the entire solo is Neal by the numbers - and it's a well-done solo!

by **Duncan** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 2:11 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Duncan wrote:You have all picked up on the DSB guitar lick at 5m 13 sec right? Very cool

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Now playing: Jeremy Nail - Lucky Girl

yes, and the Who's Crying Now lick shortly after. Like I said, the entire solo is Neal by the numbers - and it's a well-done solo!

Ha! I didn't notice that, but you're right!
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Now playing: W.E.T. - If I Fall

by **Deb** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:09 am

portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
slucero wrote:This should have ben the 1st video... GREAT song...

I agree. To me, the best song, and impressive that it's got over 4,000 views so soon upon release with this group of musicians compared to his other music, like Beautiful Mess when it was released, etc. Good sign of the interest in this CD and lineup.

I really love the whole CD....there are very few CD's that I will play start to finish.....this is one.

My Everything, Brothers In Arms are skippers for me. And some of the songs start sounding the same to me, but overall most of the songs are really good with several great ones.

No surprise here my friend I love Brothers in Arms......

And I love My Everything. :lol:

It reminds me a little of Perry's Let Go........especially that high vocal a couple minutes in. Posted about that when it first came out...... http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/vie ... hp?t=44821

by **Deb** » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:16 am

YoungJRNY wrote:This whole CD kicks ass. In fact, I'm listening to it right now. Great mixture of flow between songs and chorus. Just an awesome performance across the board.

Me too!

Got my ipod on at work........now playing: Running From The Heartache

by **MBPL** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:16 am

I slightly hear Steve Perry singing "If I fall". Well, if he was still singing. It is a beautiful song to be sure.

I agree with some of you that JSS' eclectic range is not exploited on this CD. I think, however, it depends on what the musicians including JSS want to give their audience. Perhaps they had a particular theme in mind for this CD and not so much diversity in his singing style, I don't know.

Whatever they wanted to bring to the table on this CD, I enjoy it's style. W.E.T. is slowly growing on me.

MBPL

by **Saint John** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:18 am

W.E.T. will be yet another casualty of Soto's inability to write, record, promote and then tour behind music. The album is good, but it seems that with each listen it becomes more and more of a Journey ripoff, whether it's Perry's phrasing, Neal's solos or the drumming and keys. Now I know why I initially loved the guitars so much.

by **Ehwmatt** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:26 am

Saint John wrote:W.E.T. will be yet another casualty of Soto's inability to write, record, promote and then tour behind music. The album is good, but it seems that with each listen it becomes more and more of a Journey ripoff, whether it's Perry's phrasing, Neal's solos or the drumming and keys. Now I know why I initially loved the guitars so much.

lol, i don't think it rips off Journey too, too much. If I Fall definitely "pays homage," but hell, it's a great song...

It definitely borrows heavily from staple features of the genre though throughout, that's for sure... but it's the heavier/harder side of MR for the most part

by **Onestepper** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:30 am

What I do know is that the video for 'One Love' is an abomination. What is this, 1984? And stop all of the shoving of cameras up people's faces. Good God.

by **JSS** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:45 am

blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!

Saint John wrote:W.E.T. will be yet another casualty of Soto's inability to write, record, promote and then tour behind music. The album is good, but it seems that with each listen it becomes more and more of a Journey ripoff, whether it's Perry's phrasing, Neal's solos or the drumming and keys. Now I know why I initially loved the guitars so much.

by **Ehwmatt** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:47 am

JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!

Saint John wrote:W.E.T. will be yet another casualty of Soto's inability to write, record, promote and then tour behind music. The album is good, but it seems that with each listen it becomes more and more of a Journey ripoff, whether it's Perry's phrasing, Neal's solos or the drumming and keys. Now I know why I initially loved the guitars so much.

LOL. What's up Jeff... great job on WET... Dan is a fan of ABBA... :lol:

MR

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