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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:49 am

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Postby JSS » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:52 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!

Saint John wrote:W.E.T. will be yet another casualty of Soto's inability to write, record, promote and then tour behind music. The album is good, but it seems that with each listen it becomes more and more of a Journey ripoff, whether it's Perry's phrasing, Neal's solos or the drumming and keys. Now I know why I initially loved the guitars so much.


LOL. What's up Jeff... great job on WET... Dan is a fan of ABBA... :lol:


He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!
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Postby Saint John » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:53 am

JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!

Saint John wrote:W.E.T. will be yet another casualty of Soto's inability to write, record, promote and then tour behind music. The album is good, but it seems that with each listen it becomes more and more of a Journey ripoff, whether it's Perry's phrasing, Neal's solos or the drumming and keys. Now I know why I initially loved the guitars so much.


Good to see you still have that "thick skin" you talked about in one of your last interviews. :lol:

PS I gave the album a solid B.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:54 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:
JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!

Saint John wrote:W.E.T. will be yet another casualty of Soto's inability to write, record, promote and then tour behind music. The album is good, but it seems that with each listen it becomes more and more of a Journey ripoff, whether it's Perry's phrasing, Neal's solos or the drumming and keys. Now I know why I initially loved the guitars so much.


LOL. What's up Jeff... great job on WET... Dan is a fan of ABBA... :lol:


He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


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Postby Duncan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:02 am

To my ears it is only If I Fall that has clear references to Journey, but i don't think it's a rip off I think it's sending a message. You don't put two of Neal Schon's most famous guitar licks back to back in a solo and hope no one notices. That is a deliberate and, in my opinion, there for a reason. I wondered if it was a tribute or perhaps payback for Never Walk Away?

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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:03 am

Jeff, any chance of any W.E.T. shows stateside after TSO season?
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Postby JSS » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:04 am

Duncan wrote:To my ears it is only If I Fall that has clear references to Journey, but i don't think it's a rip off I think it's sending a message. You don't put two of Neal Schon's most famous guitar licks back to back in a solo and hope no one notices. That is a deliberate and, in my opinion, there for a reason. I wondered if it was a tribute or perhaps payback for Never Walk Away?

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Nope, honestly it was meant to make us laugh when he did it, we all knew too well the song sounded very Journey-esque so to make us fall off our chairs, he threw in the 2 riffs on his 'work' solo. We got so used to them being there we left them in as yes, an homage to the greatness this band left us with growing up.
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Postby Jana » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:04 am

Duncan wrote:To my ears it is only If I Fall that has clear references to Journey, but i don't think it's a rip off I think it's sending a message. You don't put two of Neal Schon's most famous guitar licks back to back in a solo and hope no one notices. That is a deliberate and, in my opinion, there for a reason. I wondered if it was a tribute or perhaps payback for Never Walk Away?

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Payback for Never Walk Away? What's that got to do with Jeff?
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Postby Duncan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:04 am

Just read Jeff's post. Tribute it is then. Kinda liked my fuck you theory though - shame.

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Postby slucero » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:05 am

Duncan wrote:To my ears it is only If I Fall that has clear references to Journey, but i don't think it's a rip off I think it's sending a message. You don't put two of Neal Schon's most famous guitar licks back to back in a solo and hope no one notices. That is a deliberate and, in my opinion, there for a reason. I wondered if it was a tribute or perhaps payback for Never Walk Away?

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Maybe it was a happy accident... on a homage... I didn't hear them until it was pointed out... and it happens in the outro... maybe its TFH (tin foil hat) time.. lol

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Postby JSS » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:06 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Jeff, any chance of any W.E.T. shows stateside after TSO season?


In discussions now, depends on the upcoming TSO tour in the Spring if I am doing it or not. There is a lot of talk but little time to squeeze so much I have on my plate, wishful thinking for all of us as WET is now outselling & slowly replacing Talisman for me, these guys are saints & would love to tour with them!
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Postby slucero » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:06 am

Saint John wrote:
JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!

Saint John wrote:W.E.T. will be yet another casualty of Soto's inability to write, record, promote and then tour behind music. The album is good, but it seems that with each listen it becomes more and more of a Journey ripoff, whether it's Perry's phrasing, Neal's solos or the drumming and keys. Now I know why I initially loved the guitars so much.


Good to see you still have that "thick skin" you talked about in one of your last interviews. :lol:

PS I gave the album a solid B.


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Postby Duncan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:06 am

Jana wrote:
Duncan wrote:To my ears it is only If I Fall that has clear references to Journey, but i don't think it's a rip off I think it's sending a message. You don't put two of Neal Schon's most famous guitar licks back to back in a solo and hope no one notices. That is a deliberate and, in my opinion, there for a reason. I wondered if it was a tribute or perhaps payback for Never Walk Away?

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Payback for Never Walk Away? What's that got to do with Jeff?


..or Believe In Me take 2 as it might as well be called. On reflection it was probably Journey's tribute to Jeff.

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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:07 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:Jeff, any chance of any W.E.T. shows stateside after TSO season?


In discussions now, depends on the upcoming TSO tour in the Spring if I am doing it or not. There is a lot of talk but little time to squeeze so much I have on my plate, wishful thinking for all of us as WET is now outselling & slowly replacing Talisman for me, these guys are saints & would love to tour with them!


Well, I'd love to catch it - you guys might need 20 backup singers to cop some of those harmonies live though... damn.

EDIT: Cleveland has a great MR scene... so if you tour it come here please... come to the House of Blues or somewhere like that, you guys would pack the place...
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Postby Rick » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:08 am

Jana wrote:
Duncan wrote:To my ears it is only If I Fall that has clear references to Journey, but i don't think it's a rip off I think it's sending a message. You don't put two of Neal Schon's most famous guitar licks back to back in a solo and hope no one notices. That is a deliberate and, in my opinion, there for a reason. I wondered if it was a tribute or perhaps payback for Never Walk Away?

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Payback for Never Walk Away? What's that got to do with Jeff?


Never Walk Away has some parts, especially the intro that sounds a lot like Believe In Me.

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Postby slucero » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:08 am

Jeff.. If I Fall needs some ESPN time... great chorus.

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Postby Saint John » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:10 am

JSS wrote:He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


I'm not negaitve, but merely a contrarian view to the baseless fawning and Journey trashing that the majority of your fans like to partake in. I like W.E.T. and have said as much more than once. My critique was a legitimate one. Why are you not touring in support of what many, including yourself (I think you said that), believe to be your best total body of work? Did the TSO thing suddenly pop up and you simply can't pass it up, could you not delay the release of the album, is there too much technical wizardry on the album to pull off live? Why would you release your best work and not promote it? I could sit back here and massage your balls like everyone else and tell you you're the greatest thing since the pocket pussy, but I'd like to think that my questions and critiques will help you a lot more than a bunch of zealots that don't ask tough questions.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:13 am

Saint John wrote:
JSS wrote:He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


I'm not negaitve, but merely a contrarian view to the basless fawning and Journey trashing that the majority of your fans like to partake in. I like W.E.T. and have said as much more than once. My critique was a legitimate one. Why are you not touring in support of what many, including yourself (I think you said that), believe to be your best total body of work? Did the TSO thing suddenly pop up and you simply can't pass it up, could you not delay the release of the album, is there too much technical wizardry on the album to pull off live? Why would you release your best work and not promote it? I could sit back here and massage your balls like everyone else and tell you you're the greatest thing since the pocket pussy, but I'd like to think that my questions and critiques will help you a lot more than a bunch of zealots that don't ask tough questions.


You're not negative, just an ABBA fan you dick bobbler :lol: .
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Postby slucero » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:13 am

Saint John wrote:
JSS wrote:He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


...I could sit back here and massage your balls like everyone else and tell you you're the greatest thing since the pocket pussy.....


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Postby Onestepper » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:16 am

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JSS wrote:He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


I'm not negaitve, but merely a contrarian view to the basless fawning and Journey trashing that the majority of your fans like to partake in. I like W.E.T. and have said as much more than once. My critique was a legitimate one. Why are you not touring in support of what many, including yourself (I think you said that), believe to be your best total body of work? Did the TSO thing suddenly pop up and you simply can't pass it up, could you not delay the release of the album, is there too much technical wizardry on the album to pull off live? Why would you release your best work and not promote it? I could sit back here and massage your balls like everyone else and tell you you're the greatest thing since the pocket pussy, but I'd like to think that my questions and critiques will help you a lot more than a bunch of zealots that don't ask tough questions.


Yeah, I'd agree. In fact I just pulled up his website to see when/if I could catch them and there is no tour scheduled? Given the comments above, that is just flat out bizarre. Pick another time to release the album if you have other commitments. Doesn't make a lick of sense.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:17 am

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JSS wrote:He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


I'm not negaitve, but merely a contrarian view to the basless fawning and Journey trashing that the majority of your fans like to partake in. I like W.E.T. and have said as much more than once. My critique was a legitimate one. Why are you not touring in support of what many, including yourself (I think you said that), believe to be your best total body of work? Did the TSO thing suddenly pop up and you simply can't pass it up, could you not delay the release of the album, is there too much technical wizardry on the album to pull off live? Why would you release your best work and not promote it? I could sit back here and massage your balls like everyone else and tell you you're the greatest thing since the pocket pussy, but I'd like to think that my questions and critiques will help you a lot more than a bunch of zealots that don't ask tough questions.


Yeah, I'd agree. In fact I just pulled up his website to see when/if I could catch them and there is no tour scheduled? Given the comments above, that is just flat out bizarre. Pick another time to release the album if you have other commitments. Doesn't make a lick of sense.


In Jeff's defense, I'm sure Frontiers dictated when it was released. I highly doubt that anyone else had any say-so on the date.
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Postby Duncan » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:19 am

Saint John wrote: greatest thing since the pocket pussy.


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Postby Jana » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:20 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Onestepper wrote:
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JSS wrote:He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


I'm not negaitve, but merely a contrarian view to the basless fawning and Journey trashing that the majority of your fans like to partake in. I like W.E.T. and have said as much more than once. My critique was a legitimate one. Why are you not touring in support of what many, including yourself (I think you said that), believe to be your best total body of work? Did the TSO thing suddenly pop up and you simply can't pass it up, could you not delay the release of the album, is there too much technical wizardry on the album to pull off live? Why would you release your best work and not promote it? I could sit back here and massage your balls like everyone else and tell you you're the greatest thing since the pocket pussy, but I'd like to think that my questions and critiques will help you a lot more than a bunch of zealots that don't ask tough questions.


Yeah, I'd agree. In fact I just pulled up his website to see when/if I could catch them and there is no tour scheduled? Given the comments above, that is just flat out bizarre. Pick another time to release the album if you have other commitments. Doesn't make a lick of sense.


In Jeff's defense, I'm sure Frontiers dictated when it was released. I highly doubt that anyone else had any say-so on the date.


From what I read on his site there were ever any plans on touring this CD when made. Now b/c of the good reception of it they've said it's a possibility in the future.
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Postby Onestepper » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:22 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
Onestepper wrote:
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JSS wrote:He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


I'm not negaitve, but merely a contrarian view to the basless fawning and Journey trashing that the majority of your fans like to partake in. I like W.E.T. and have said as much more than once. My critique was a legitimate one. Why are you not touring in support of what many, including yourself (I think you said that), believe to be your best total body of work? Did the TSO thing suddenly pop up and you simply can't pass it up, could you not delay the release of the album, is there too much technical wizardry on the album to pull off live? Why would you release your best work and not promote it? I could sit back here and massage your balls like everyone else and tell you you're the greatest thing since the pocket pussy, but I'd like to think that my questions and critiques will help you a lot more than a bunch of zealots that don't ask tough questions.


Yeah, I'd agree. In fact I just pulled up his website to see when/if I could catch them and there is no tour scheduled? Given the comments above, that is just flat out bizarre. Pick another time to release the album if you have other commitments. Doesn't make a lick of sense.


In Jeff's defense, I'm sure Frontiers dictated when it was released. I highly doubt that anyone else had any say-so on the date.


Maybe so. But if that were the case, I'd be finding a new label if they do something as poorly timed as release it when you can't even tour or do any promotional stuff. Unless they knew it was a stinker (which it is not), that's just embarrassing.
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Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:27 am

Saint John wrote:
JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!
Good to see you still have that "thick skin" you talked about in one of your last interviews. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A-fucking-men. Now we know where the crazed fans get the defend-to-the-death mentality. There appears to be no middle ground. If you say it's the best album in the history or potential future of the world, you're fine. But call in the dogs because all bets are off if someone says something remotely critical. Yeah, that's normal for a well-respected musician. :roll:
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Postby G.I.Jim » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:29 am

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Saint John wrote:
JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!
Good to see you still have that "thick skin" you talked about in one of your last interviews. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A-fucking-men. Now we know where the crazed fans get the defend-to-the-death mentality. There appears to be no middle ground. If you say it's the best album in the history or potential future of the world, you're fine. But call in the dogs because all bets are off if someone says something remotely critical. Yeah, that's normal for a well-respected musician. :roll:


And on that note... Jeff dissappears for another 6 months.
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Postby Don » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:29 am

J.S.S. should tour with Augeri next year. Since they were both members of Journey, they could include a bunch of that band's tunes in the set-list but do them acoustically or add their own twist to them.
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Postby JSS » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:30 am

Saint John wrote:
JSS wrote:He's actually my biggest fan, I pay him well to act like he hates me, does well don't he? Dude, go look up the word 'influence' & 'inspiration', it's called paying homage to the things that molded you as an artist, Perry is a huge factor in that for me whether you hear/like it or not. It's not ripping off, it's respecting the things you grew up with & carrying on the tradition whether 5 or 5,000,000 buy it. U only care about how many platinum albums one sells & not the fact that there is art involved. If I cared about Ferrari's & mansions, I would have given up ages ago....I do what I do because I love it, as much as you live on here to criticize it except no one outside of here gives a damn what you think...I only do because you annoy the living piss out of me with your negativity, it's old hat dude, move on!


I'm not negaitve, but merely a contrarian view to the basless fawning and Journey trashing that the majority of your fans like to partake in. I like W.E.T. and have said as much more than once. My critique was a legitimate one. Why are you not touring in support of what many, including yourself (I think you said that), believe to be your best total body of work? Did the TSO thing suddenly pop up and you simply can't pass it up, could you not delay the release of the album, is there too much technical wizardry on the album to pull off live? Why would you release your best work and not promote it? I could sit back here and massage your balls like everyone else and tell you you're the greatest thing since the pocket pussy, but I'd like to think that my questions and critiques will help you a lot more than a bunch of zealots that don't ask tough questions.


I dont see the ones who have positive things to say as you would call it 'ball massagers', they like what they like & stick up for it, just as you do with Arnel or anything you feel strongly about with Journey, thats great, everyone is entitled to their opinion but I will answer you questions anyway as I am mid-show here in Memphis & not needed onstage for another 20 minutes:

Supporting it is 1st about public demand as well as promoters who these days NOT willing to risk or bank on even proven entities at the moment. WET is/was not a real band, or discussed as being a real band until we did the videos & the buzz blew up beyond any of our expectations, we were doing an album to appease our label boss & have some fun piecing together some songs that were influenced by the 3 of us, individually & collectively. I committed to the TSO winter tour pretty much until they dont want me anymore, it consumes my time from Oct until January from now on so not my fault the album came out right when we started the tour.

Same for the new TSO album which I am prominently featured on, this album was on hold to be released for many years, again, I/we had no idea when it would be out nor that it would be out when we released WET. Since I started with TSO in 2007, I committed to the Night Castle production which includes the upcoming tour, again, not all in cahoots with scheduling but we didnt think about WET blowing up the way it has SO I have to knock down the pins according to his next in line.

Technical wizardry to pull it off live?...not quite, sure the backing vocals might be a little challenging but hell 'everyone' uses little enhancements to pull it off so we'll see how naked it sounds without it 1st & decide when the time comes :)

Promoting it? I have been doing a multitude of interviews in between double shows on the road & radio appearances on days off, brother, I am like a machine, nonstop out here, promoting the living shit out of this album at the mercy of the little time I get to rest. Again, this band will never see a stage until there is enough demand to put us up there, no need for us to do a disaster tour like my solo run in the US back in '07...that little run was to prove to everyone that my time with Journey had NOTHING to do with having new drawing power, in the end I was merely a body & a voice singing their hits to their fans, with the exception of picking up some new diehards for myself. I am fine with that, I didn't expect Journey as much as I dont expect TSO to overflow in new JSS fans, I am just working & doing what I do best, singing.

You can ask all the tough questions you want, but it's not about what you say, it's how you say it!
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Postby Don » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:36 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
Saint John wrote:
JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!
Good to see you still have that "thick skin" you talked about in one of your last interviews. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A-fucking-men. Now we know where the crazed fans get the defend-to-the-death mentality. There appears to be no middle ground. If you say it's the best album in the history or potential future of the world, you're fine. But call in the dogs because all bets are off if someone says something remotely critical. Yeah, that's normal for a well-respected musician. :roll:


Do you mean like Journey's current singer who would go into the shout-box and literally cry to his fans because the big bad loons were picking on his diction issues or posting bad reviews about his performances?
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Postby Jana » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:38 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:
Saint John wrote:
JSS wrote:blah, blah, blah....who fucking cares!
Good to see you still have that "thick skin" you talked about in one of your last interviews. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

A-fucking-men. Now we know where the crazed fans get the defend-to-the-death mentality. There appears to be no middle ground. If you say it's the best album in the history or potential future of the world, you're fine. But call in the dogs because all bets are off if someone says something remotely critical. Yeah, that's normal for a well-respected musician. :roll:


And on that note... Jeff dissappears for another 6 months.


His poor fans sit on his site (and here) fawning and drooling over his every move and posting daily, weekly, monthly and no comment, no acknowledgment except updates as a group, and who gets Jeff's individual attention and response? Saint John. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Life ain't fair. :wink:
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