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StevePerryHair wrote:I don't judge ANYONE in these situations. And it's pretty typical for guys to move on much faster than women do. Especially if they enjoyed being married. And it's not even about moving on,because in most cases they miss their wives dearly. But being alone when they were so happy is really difficult.
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.
StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.
Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.
EVERY man I've known who has lost his wife, including a few family members and some co-workers (admittedly, I've know more women in that situation) has not remarried yet. Some are dating now (one seriously), but even that took 8-9 years after the wife's passing. I'm not agreeing with the general trend about men remarrying quick that so many are talking about here, at least not from my personal experience. I think it's weird/fucked up no matter what the situation or what the gender is, I'm not judging Sweet himself, but it's still weird to me.
Ehwmatt wrote:Also, why the need to rush the formalization of marriage? If they're just lonely, why not date/cohabitate for a while? To me, that's what makes the whole thing kinda fucked up, as it obviously raises the bar on the relationship, formalizes it, and makes it look like the recently departed wife is indeed being "replaced" very quickly, especially to the kids.
StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Also, why the need to rush the formalization of marriage? If they're just lonely, why not date/cohabitate for a while? To me, that's what makes the whole thing kinda fucked up, as it obviously raises the bar on the relationship, formalizes it, and makes it look like the recently departed wife is indeed being "replaced" very quickly, especially to the kids.
You obviously have some "marriage" issues...
Jana wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.
True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.
StevePerryHair wrote:I don't judge ANYONE in these situations. And it's pretty typical for guys to move on much faster than women do. Especially if they enjoyed being married. And it's not even about moving on,because in most cases they miss their wives dearly. But being alone when they were so happy is really difficult.
StevePerryHair wrote:Jana wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.
True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.
It is so hard to watch the grief! That's why I was nothing but happy when my mom met someone. And the fact that he too had lost a spouse, I knew it would be easier for him to relate to her and what she went through. There is something about men though for sure. A friend who is in his early 70's lost his wife to cancer a few months ago. He is so sad it breaks my heart! He posts things on facebook for his family and friends about his lonliness that just makes me want to cry when i read it! Its' a tough thing. Sorry for both your losses. THat had to be tough to go through all within a year.
Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Also, why the need to rush the formalization of marriage? If they're just lonely, why not date/cohabitate for a while? To me, that's what makes the whole thing kinda fucked up, as it obviously raises the bar on the relationship, formalizes it, and makes it look like the recently departed wife is indeed being "replaced" very quickly, especially to the kids.
You obviously have some "marriage" issues...
Am I striking a personal chord here? Your mom waiting 5 years and presumably far after you kids were fully grown and had your own lives is a far cry from tying the knot less than a year after the passing. Just so I'm clear, I'm not saying there is no way you should ever remarry after a spouse's passing. I'm talking about THIS situation.
Last I checked, Michael's kids were still not very old, it's not like they're married and 95% on their own. Even if they're in college, they are likely still a big and frequent presence in his life. It also hasn't been very long since his wife's death. I don't see the need to rush to "formalize" the relationship this quickly. I don't care what the situation is or how old or young the parties are, that's an awfully quick time to get married. If anything, the abject loneliness you feel is apt to blind you and to lead you to make a foolish decision to remarry the wrong person if done so soon.
Like I said, my personal experiences make this situation weird. My grandmother has been a widow for 12 years now, my grandfather was a widower for 9 before he passed. My grandmother to this day says she could never replace my grandfather and my grandfather on the other side felt much the same way before he died. So yes, everyone looks at the situation through a different lens. But, I suspect if you polled happily married people or even people grieving the recent (6-12 months) loss of a loved spouse, they would say it was going to be at least a few years before they entertained the notion of marriage. Life throws you curves and people stumble into your life, yadda yadda yadda, but I think the majority of people wouldn't be so quick in a situation like this.
Oh, and for the record, the only person who has been divorced on either side of my family, including uncles, grandparents, immediate family etc, is my uncle in Florida who has a taste for less than wholesome women. My parents themselves have been happily married for 29 years and all other marriages in my family are very happy. No "marriage" issues here.
Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Jana wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.
True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.
It is so hard to watch the grief! That's why I was nothing but happy when my mom met someone. And the fact that he too had lost a spouse, I knew it would be easier for him to relate to her and what she went through. There is something about men though for sure. A friend who is in his early 70's lost his wife to cancer a few months ago. He is so sad it breaks my heart! He posts things on facebook for his family and friends about his lonliness that just makes me want to cry when i read it! Its' a tough thing. Sorry for both your losses. THat had to be tough to go through all within a year.
That's because you fuckin women do too much for us and we can't take care of ourselves without you once we get used to it![]()
StevePerryHair wrote: It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.
StevePerryHair wrote:Jana wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:StevePerryHair wrote:Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids
It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.
True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.
It is so hard to watch the grief! That's why I was nothing but happy when my mom met someone. And the fact that he too had lost a spouse, I knew it would be easier for him to relate to her and what she went through. There is something about men though for sure. A friend who is in his early 70's lost his wife to cancer a few months ago. He is so sad it breaks my heart! He posts things on facebook for his family and friends about his lonliness that just makes me want to cry when i read it! Its' a tough thing. Sorry for both your losses. THat had to be tough to go through all within a year.
Michigan Girl wrote:StevePerryHair wrote: It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.
This is exactly what bothers me about rushing into a new marriage~ not giving yourself enough time
to grieve...
Jana wrote:[
Thanks, SPH. He told me two weeks b/f he passed that he wanted to be with mom, that she was alone in heaven and needed him there, and that he had had a great life but he wanted to be with her. Two weeks later he had a massive heart attack, just the way he wanted to go, quickly. I'm thankful for that, as he was in ill health, and he was so fearful of a stroke or lingering illness. It was hard for us to lose him so close in time, but I know he was at peace finally.
But watching him cry for that whole year and the continual sadness in his eyes was too much for me to bear. I would have wanted him to find a companion to love and care for him, even though it would have killed me to see someone in my mom's place. But it would be selfish for me to wish otherwise. But I spent a lot of time with him and have wonderful memories of that year together, even though the house seemed so empty without mom.
Michigan Girl wrote:StevePerryHair wrote: It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.
This is exactly what bothers me about rushing into a new marriage~ not giving yourself enough time
to grieve...
Ehwmatt wrote:That's because you fuckin women do too much for us and we can't take care of ourselves without you once we get used to it![]()
some christian he is. ur wifes barely cold asshole
She's hot! You think Christianity is going to slow him down on this one? Not a chance! All joking (sort of) aside, you got to remember Christians have an answer for everything. And if they can't find an answer in their magic book, then they will "How-it-could-have-been" the problem and use that as an answer. I'm sure he's got all his shit worked out on this or he would not go through with it. I'm happy for him. No, really! Of course, one could be adult about it all and just work out what is rational to do or not on their own like a mature person without appeal to an invisible friend, but whatever.
And NO I'm not an atheist. But just look at the guys post! I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ! Anytime anyone has to mention God that much has got a real problem. It's like a security blanket or something. He cant go a second hardly without bringing up the big man upstairs. I mean, if someone talked about drugs that much, every other second, people would say, hey, you need help! Maybe his wife will mellow him out a bit. Good luck man!
If I was part of his late wife's family I would be a little annoyed to say the least. His kids have to be a little confused about this. If my wife passed I would be fucked up for awhile. Good luck.
Ten bucks says he was nailing her while the wife was still alive. I lost my mother when I was twelve (not from cancer but from illness) and I remember how horrified my siblings and I were when my father started dating someone less than a year after her death. To watch your father marry someone in that space of time ... man, those poor kids, even if they are teenagers. Way to show some respect for the mother of your children.
Well isn't it sweet, huh?
1. How is this music news? Who's interested in any musician's relationships and marital status?
2. It's less than a year since his wife passed away, already MARRYING a new woman...I wonder what the relatives of his late wife REALLY think about this...
3. Who is he trying to convince of his new marriage being so wonderfully righteous? Himself I guess...
4. Pulling God into everything all the time makes me sick...His wife died, but it's all God's plan according to him so it's all cool...He got married with another woman (he so deeply loves already) after less than a year after the DEATH of his first wife...but it's God who sent him this new wife, so it's more than blessed and OK for everyone concerned...
Ahhhhh what a freakin' joke this guy is.
Happy trails and all, but yeah... if she clocks off early I bet he'll be getting balls-deep with some other girl before she's six feet under.
I guess it was God's will for him to start fornicating as soon as possible.
It sure was nice of "the lord" to provide him with a new wife less than a year after he began "grieving". I guess "god" really does have a plan!
you are right. This guy "the Frontman of Stryper"(how long will he be called this?) is a reknown speed griever. Through the power of prayer, he managed to grieve in record time, roughly 48 hrs, he was over it, and onto Hairmetal Singles chat rooms, set up for women who love men who were in HairMetals, or wanted to be. Or just had great hair & looked good in spandex....this guy was married quicker than it takes to break in a good pair of leather trousers & white cowboy boots. I'm sure his deceased wife's family is happy for him.
Ehwmatt wrote:Michigan Girl wrote:StevePerryHair wrote: It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.
This is exactly what bothers me about rushing into a new marriage~ not giving yourself enough time
to grieve...
Lynn, you make some good points in the several posts above. It's really just looking at the situation from two different life experiences, there is (obviously) no universal right or wrong. MG cuts to the heart of the matter for me right here ^^^, though. Yes, grieving began when she was diagnosed, but the grieving upon death is something totally unique and something you can't steel yourself for, no matter how much advance notice or lack thereof you have (eg cancer vs a tragic car accident). NOTHING can prepare you for the actual loss. I lost one grandmother to breast cancer, a grandfather to lung cancer (fuckin cigs), and my other grandfather to heart disease. They all happened gradually and we were "prepared," but nothing can truly prepare you for the ACTUAL feeling/situation of loss, at least imo.
I'm with MG, you need time to grieve. One of the aforementioned co-workers (actually, my old boss) made a promise to his wife that there'd never be anybody else... she died when he was 50. Well, that was awfully young to make that promise, as he's a VERY healthy 60. He's one of those works out every day, vibrant, doesn't think about retiring, doesn't look a day over 50 type. So, after he had his "time to grieve," several years, turns out he did find someone else and it's pretty serious now. Good for him.
My perspective is you need that time and space. You feel differently. That's fine. I'm also somewhat looking at it through the kids' lens, since I can still imagine what it would feel like if one of my parents passed and the other remarried so soon. I'd 99% be likely to be pissed about that.
Ehwmatt wrote:LOL - if you look at the comments section on that blog, there are quite a few who share my sentiments, albeit less diplomatically:
some christian he is. ur wifes barely cold assholeShe's hot! You think Christianity is going to slow him down on this one? Not a chance! All joking (sort of) aside, you got to remember Christians have an answer for everything. And if they can't find an answer in their magic book, then they will "How-it-could-have-been" the problem and use that as an answer. I'm sure he's got all his shit worked out on this or he would not go through with it. I'm happy for him. No, really! Of course, one could be adult about it all and just work out what is rational to do or not on their own like a mature person without appeal to an invisible friend, but whatever.
And NO I'm not an atheist. But just look at the guys post! I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ! Anytime anyone has to mention God that much has got a real problem. It's like a security blanket or something. He cant go a second hardly without bringing up the big man upstairs. I mean, if someone talked about drugs that much, every other second, people would say, hey, you need help! Maybe his wife will mellow him out a bit. Good luck man!If I was part of his late wife's family I would be a little annoyed to say the least. His kids have to be a little confused about this. If my wife passed I would be fucked up for awhile. Good luck.Ten bucks says he was nailing her while the wife was still alive. I lost my mother when I was twelve (not from cancer but from illness) and I remember how horrified my siblings and I were when my father started dating someone less than a year after her death. To watch your father marry someone in that space of time ... man, those poor kids, even if they are teenagers. Way to show some respect for the mother of your children.Well isn't it sweet, huh?
1. How is this music news? Who's interested in any musician's relationships and marital status?
2. It's less than a year since his wife passed away, already MARRYING a new woman...I wonder what the relatives of his late wife REALLY think about this...
3. Who is he trying to convince of his new marriage being so wonderfully righteous? Himself I guess...
4. Pulling God into everything all the time makes me sick...His wife died, but it's all God's plan according to him so it's all cool...He got married with another woman (he so deeply loves already) after less than a year after the DEATH of his first wife...but it's God who sent him this new wife, so it's more than blessed and OK for everyone concerned...Ahhhhh what a freakin' joke this guy is.
Happy trails and all, but yeah... if she clocks off early I bet he'll be getting balls-deep with some other girl before she's six feet under.I guess it was God's will for him to start fornicating as soon as possible.It sure was nice of "the lord" to provide him with a new wife less than a year after he began "grieving". I guess "god" really does have a plan!you are right. This guy "the Frontman of Stryper"(how long will he be called this?) is a reknown speed griever. Through the power of prayer, he managed to grieve in record time, roughly 48 hrs, he was over it, and onto Hairmetal Singles chat rooms, set up for women who love men who were in HairMetals, or wanted to be. Or just had great hair & looked good in spandex....this guy was married quicker than it takes to break in a good pair of leather trousers & white cowboy boots. I'm sure his deceased wife's family is happy for him.
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