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Strypers Michael Sweet marries again... Already?

Postby T-Bone » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:05 pm

WTF??? His wife passed away less than a year ago in a MUCH publicized battle with cancer, and this guy is already tying the knot again???



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STRYPER singer Michael Sweet — whose wife Kyle Rae Sweet passed away on March 5, 2009 after a two-year battle with ovarian cancer — has tied the knot again. Michael and his new wife Lisa were married on January 8, 2010 at a private ceremony with their families and closest friends by their side.

A photo of the happy couple can be viewed below.

In an October 2009 letter that was posted on Sweet's official web site, he wrote about finding love again, "Throughout the past twenty six years, I've always had a deep faith in God. I decided to commit my life to Him, and to honor and glorify Him in all that I do. There have been ups and downs, good times and bad times, and it hasn't always been an easy road, especially the past two years.

"When Kyle was diagnosed with stage 4 ovarian cancer, our family began grieving from that moment on. Although we tried to stay positive and faithful, there were many times that we questioned God and cried out 'why,' feeling as though it was some kind of nightmare that we couldn't wake from. I tried desperately to be strong and to be an example to my family and my friends and to be strong for Kyle, Michael [Sweet's son] and Ellena [Sweet's daughter].

"Miraculously, by the strength and grace that only God can give, I was able to keep it together and not fall completely apart. God has always shown me that no matter how hard it gets or how painful it can be, He is always in control and He has a plan for my life.

"I know this may come as a surprise to some of you, but I had to make a decision to live my life and move forward in it. I could have very easily drawn the shades and hidden from the world. Instead, God brought someone so perfect for me at the perfect time. I know Kyle would want me to be happy just as I would have wanted her to be, if it had been me who was called home. I hope and pray that all of you reading this can understand.

"It's been a witness for me to see how accepting and supportive Mikey and Lena have been. I'm amazed at how much grace they both possess and how much of an example of Christ they are and continue to be. Kyle essentially raised and educated Michael and Ellena and because of her sacrifice to do so and her gift of teaching, they are without question, the most incredibly smart and loving kids and I love them more than words can describe! I'm so proud to be their father.....

"As I mentioned in my last update, 'A New Chapter In My Life' (click here to read), I've been blessed with the opportunity to love again, unconditionally, without restraints, and to be loved in return the very same way.

"Although the past few years have been excruciatingly painful and trying, I feel as though I've been given a second chance at true love and to live life once again as it should be lived — happy, joyful and at peace. Most people are blessed in one lifetime with true love and I've been blessed twice and I continue to stand in awe of God's favor and God's hand upon my life.

"When you find someone that you can share your heart, mind and soul with and you long to share the rest of your life with, it cannot be planned or arranged, or forced in any way. It just happens — destiny unfolding right before your eyes and as a very dear friend of mine so recently said, 'God is playing Connect the Dots, and all the dots are connecting.'

"Lisa is a unique person in the sense that she has the ability to love and accept everyone, unconditionally, and without judgment. She is kind and caring and always puts the needs and feelings of others before her own. She reminds me constantly of why I'm here and what I'm here to do — to be a light and an encouragement to those around me and those I come in contact with.

"I have to admit that it's been easy at times for me to lose sight of what I do and to take this ministry that God has loaned to me for granted. Lisa keeps me grounded and always helps me to come back to the reality and importance of what I do. She is a gift from God and I need her in my life.

"I recently proposed to Lisa and she changed my life with one simple word — yes!

"I am pleased to announce our commitment to each other through matrimony. She is an angel and a Godsend and I look forward to a lifetime together."
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:22 pm

I don't judge ANYONE in these situations. And it's pretty typical for guys to move on much faster than women do. Especially if they enjoyed being married. And it's not even about moving on,because in most cases they miss their wives dearly. But being alone when they were so happy is really difficult.
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Postby portland » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:39 pm

Yep...Married Saturday night in Boston....I know someone who went.
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Postby Jana » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:53 pm

StevePerryHair wrote:I don't judge ANYONE in these situations. And it's pretty typical for guys to move on much faster than women do. Especially if they enjoyed being married. And it's not even about moving on,because in most cases they miss their wives dearly. But being alone when they were so happy is really difficult.


I agree,with what you say, but I hate how publicly he went posting a letter in July saying he was dating her and declaring his love for her and talking about all her great qualities when Kyle had just died in March. TMI for me. It just made me sad at how easily she seemed replaced when he had said Kyle was the love of his life when she died in March and here he was in July carrying on about this one, who he obviously had been seeing b/f July if he wanted to declare his love for her. I know that's not the case, that Kyle wasn't replaced, but maybe he should have kept it more private out of memory for his wife and not gushed publicly to his fans about the new one so soon. But as far as marrying in January, many widowed men marry by a year's end. Loneliness is a hard thing for them.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:56 pm

Must be weird for his kids
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Postby StevePerryHair » Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:57 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:00 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:01 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that


Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:06 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that


Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.


EVERY man I've known who has lost his wife, including a few family members and some co-workers (admittedly, I've know more women in that situation) has not remarried yet. Some are dating now (one seriously), but even that took 8-9 years after the wife's passing. I'm not agreeing with the general trend about men remarrying quick that so many are talking about here, at least not from my personal experience. I think it's weird/fucked up no matter what the situation or what the gender is, I'm not judging Sweet himself, but it's still weird to me.
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Postby Jana » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:10 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that


Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.


True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:13 am

Also, why the need to rush the formalization of marriage? If they're just lonely, why not date/cohabitate for a while? To me, that's what makes the whole thing kinda fucked up, as it obviously raises the bar on the relationship, formalizes it, and makes it look like the recently departed wife is indeed being "replaced" very quickly, especially to the kids.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:16 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that


Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.


EVERY man I've known who has lost his wife, including a few family members and some co-workers (admittedly, I've know more women in that situation) has not remarried yet. Some are dating now (one seriously), but even that took 8-9 years after the wife's passing. I'm not agreeing with the general trend about men remarrying quick that so many are talking about here, at least not from my personal experience. I think it's weird/fucked up no matter what the situation or what the gender is, I'm not judging Sweet himself, but it's still weird to me.


It's really not weird at all. It's pretty simple. When you were happily married for a LOT of years, you are very very lonely when that companionship is gone. Some don't remarry Im sure, if the right person does not come along. But if someone who seems right to them does come along, they will most likely marry pretty quickly. My mom waited about 5 years and she knew she wanted to be married again someday, but wasnt' sure she'd ever find someone again or could love someone that way again, and then it happened. She was pretty lonely and hated being a widow, I can tell you that. And then the man she married, who is WONDERFUL, had lost his wife to breast cancer only a year previous. He was pretty much sad and miserable and lonely. And when they met, they had that connection of having spouses they loved dearly and lost in tragic ways. And they were and are very happy. They have the companionship they both missed. My mom misses my dad just as he misses his wife. It's NOT weird. It really depends on the happiness of marriages, how long those marriages lasted, and whether they are lucky enough to meet that next special person....
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:16 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Also, why the need to rush the formalization of marriage? If they're just lonely, why not date/cohabitate for a while? To me, that's what makes the whole thing kinda fucked up, as it obviously raises the bar on the relationship, formalizes it, and makes it look like the recently departed wife is indeed being "replaced" very quickly, especially to the kids.


You obviously have some "marriage" issues...
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:28 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Also, why the need to rush the formalization of marriage? If they're just lonely, why not date/cohabitate for a while? To me, that's what makes the whole thing kinda fucked up, as it obviously raises the bar on the relationship, formalizes it, and makes it look like the recently departed wife is indeed being "replaced" very quickly, especially to the kids.


You obviously have some "marriage" issues...


Am I striking a personal chord here? Your mom waiting 5 years and presumably far after you kids were fully grown and had your own lives is a far cry from tying the knot less than a year after the passing. Just so I'm clear, I'm not saying there is no way you should ever remarry after a spouse's passing. I'm talking about THIS situation.

Last I checked, Michael's kids were still not very old, it's not like they're married and 95% on their own. Even if they're in college, they are likely still a big and frequent presence in his life. It also hasn't been very long since his wife's death. I don't see the need to rush to "formalize" the relationship this quickly. I don't care what the situation is or how old or young the parties are, that's an awfully quick time to get married. If anything, the abject loneliness you feel is apt to blind you and to lead you to make a foolish decision to remarry the wrong person if done so soon.

Like I said, my personal experiences make this situation weird. My grandmother has been a widow for 12 years now, my grandfather was a widower for 9 before he passed. My grandmother to this day says she could never replace my grandfather and my grandfather on the other side felt much the same way before he died. So yes, everyone looks at the situation through a different lens. But, I suspect if you polled happily married people or even people grieving the recent (6-12 months) loss of a loved spouse, they would say it was going to be at least a few years before they entertained the notion of marriage. Life throws you curves and people stumble into your life, yadda yadda yadda, but I think the majority of people wouldn't be so quick in a situation like this.

Oh, and for the record, the only person who has been divorced on either side of my family, including uncles, grandparents, immediate family etc, is my uncle in Florida who has a taste for less than wholesome women. My parents themselves have been happily married for 29 years and all other marriages in my family are very happy. No "marriage" issues here.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:30 am

Jana wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that


Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.


True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.


It is so hard to watch the grief! That's why I was nothing but happy when my mom met someone. And the fact that he too had lost a spouse, I knew it would be easier for him to relate to her and what she went through. There is something about men though for sure. A friend who is in his early 70's lost his wife to cancer a few months ago. He is so sad it breaks my heart! He posts things on facebook for his family and friends about his lonliness that just makes me want to cry when i read it! Its' a tough thing. Sorry for both your losses. THat had to be tough to go through all within a year.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:30 am

StevePerryHair wrote:I don't judge ANYONE in these situations. And it's pretty typical for guys to move on much faster than women do. Especially if they enjoyed being married. And it's not even about moving on,because in most cases they miss their wives dearly. But being alone when they were so happy is really difficult.


I agree w/this, I've seen it happen a few times...in divorce too. It still shocks me every time!!
Good for him, I hope he's very happy!! :wink:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:33 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Jana wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that


Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.


True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.


It is so hard to watch the grief! That's why I was nothing but happy when my mom met someone. And the fact that he too had lost a spouse, I knew it would be easier for him to relate to her and what she went through. There is something about men though for sure. A friend who is in his early 70's lost his wife to cancer a few months ago. He is so sad it breaks my heart! He posts things on facebook for his family and friends about his lonliness that just makes me want to cry when i read it! Its' a tough thing. Sorry for both your losses. THat had to be tough to go through all within a year.


That's because you fuckin women do too much for us and we can't take care of ourselves without you once we get used to it :lol: :lol:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:38 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Also, why the need to rush the formalization of marriage? If they're just lonely, why not date/cohabitate for a while? To me, that's what makes the whole thing kinda fucked up, as it obviously raises the bar on the relationship, formalizes it, and makes it look like the recently departed wife is indeed being "replaced" very quickly, especially to the kids.


You obviously have some "marriage" issues...


Am I striking a personal chord here? Your mom waiting 5 years and presumably far after you kids were fully grown and had your own lives is a far cry from tying the knot less than a year after the passing. Just so I'm clear, I'm not saying there is no way you should ever remarry after a spouse's passing. I'm talking about THIS situation.

Last I checked, Michael's kids were still not very old, it's not like they're married and 95% on their own. Even if they're in college, they are likely still a big and frequent presence in his life. It also hasn't been very long since his wife's death. I don't see the need to rush to "formalize" the relationship this quickly. I don't care what the situation is or how old or young the parties are, that's an awfully quick time to get married. If anything, the abject loneliness you feel is apt to blind you and to lead you to make a foolish decision to remarry the wrong person if done so soon.

Like I said, my personal experiences make this situation weird. My grandmother has been a widow for 12 years now, my grandfather was a widower for 9 before he passed. My grandmother to this day says she could never replace my grandfather and my grandfather on the other side felt much the same way before he died. So yes, everyone looks at the situation through a different lens. But, I suspect if you polled happily married people or even people grieving the recent (6-12 months) loss of a loved spouse, they would say it was going to be at least a few years before they entertained the notion of marriage. Life throws you curves and people stumble into your life, yadda yadda yadda, but I think the majority of people wouldn't be so quick in a situation like this.

Oh, and for the record, the only person who has been divorced on either side of my family, including uncles, grandparents, immediate family etc, is my uncle in Florida who has a taste for less than wholesome women. My parents themselves have been happily married for 29 years and all other marriages in my family are very happy. No "marriage" issues here.


Well my "experiences" are obviously different because I can tell you that in MY experience, they do marry again. And even elderly people do sometimes move on. My mom happened to be a widow at 45! Can you imagine that? And Her husband was a widower at 53. Those are YOUNG ages and they both wanted that companionship and MARRIAGE again. And it's not just my mom. It's my friend's dad, it's my sisterinlaws ELDERLY grandfather, it's my great uncle, who was freaking 85 when he remarried... and my list can go on...

What I am trying to tell you is that you NEVER know how people will react in their grief. Because until they are IN those shoes, even THEY don't know what they will want or what they will miss. Some people may be perfectly happy being alone. I would never say the majority and I would never JUDGE is my point. Love is love, and if Michael Sweet and this woman LOVE each other then his kids will be fine. I thought I read that one of those children was his and one was his deceased wife's? How old are they if that's the case? You have to realize too he is a RELIGIOUS man, and "shacking up" is not something he believes in. Marriage and God uniting 2 people is what he believes in, and that is what you are seeing here I'm sure.

It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:42 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Jana wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that


Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.


True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.


It is so hard to watch the grief! That's why I was nothing but happy when my mom met someone. And the fact that he too had lost a spouse, I knew it would be easier for him to relate to her and what she went through. There is something about men though for sure. A friend who is in his early 70's lost his wife to cancer a few months ago. He is so sad it breaks my heart! He posts things on facebook for his family and friends about his lonliness that just makes me want to cry when i read it! Its' a tough thing. Sorry for both your losses. THat had to be tough to go through all within a year.


That's because you fuckin women do too much for us and we can't take care of ourselves without you once we get used to it :lol: :lol:


yeah, so when our friend John says that "nights are the lonliest time of day for him" that's why he misses his wife? :P Some people actually love each other quite a bit and when you watch them suffer and die in front of your eyes, it's a really hard and lonely adjustment.
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:46 am

StevePerryHair wrote: It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.


This is exactly what bothers me about rushing into a new marriage~ not giving yourself enough time
to grieve... :?
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Postby Jana » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:47 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
Jana wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Must be weird for his kids


It is tough for the kids when it's so soon. But then I am of the mind set that it's good to see your parent happy again after being so sad and miserable....


Neither of my parents would remarry so soon, if at all, I know that


Well it depends on the marriages and how happy they are being married I truly believe. And you think you know that, but until you see your widowed parent, you really have no idea.


True. My father loved, loved, loved my mother, but his world fell apart when she died. He was elderly and frail and didn't want to be alone. His grief was so horrible to witness and his depression. Very sad. He would have remarried if he hadn't passed away a year later and talked about it to us. But women generally don't marry so quickly. They truly grieve a lot longer for their spouse no matter their age, 30s, 40s, 50s, on.


It is so hard to watch the grief! That's why I was nothing but happy when my mom met someone. And the fact that he too had lost a spouse, I knew it would be easier for him to relate to her and what she went through. There is something about men though for sure. A friend who is in his early 70's lost his wife to cancer a few months ago. He is so sad it breaks my heart! He posts things on facebook for his family and friends about his lonliness that just makes me want to cry when i read it! Its' a tough thing. Sorry for both your losses. THat had to be tough to go through all within a year.


Thanks, SPH. He told me two weeks b/f he passed that he wanted to be with mom, that she was alone in heaven and needed him there, and that he had had a great life but he wanted to be with her. Two weeks later he had a massive heart attack, just the way he wanted to go, quickly. I'm thankful for that, as he was in ill health, and he was so fearful of a stroke or lingering illness. It was hard for us to lose him so close in time, but I know he was at peace finally. Truthfully, I lived in fear we would lose him only weeks or months after, so I guess a year was a blessing.

But watching him cry for that whole year and the continual sadness in his eyes was too much for me to bear. I would have wanted him to find a companion to love and care for him, even though it would have killed me to see someone in my mom's place. But it would be selfish for me to wish otherwise. But I spent a lot of time with him and have wonderful memories of that year together, even though the house seemed so empty without mom. 8)
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:52 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote: It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.


This is exactly what bothers me about rushing into a new marriage~ not giving yourself enough time
to grieve... :?



That's true, but really that's his business, which is why I was saying I won't judge. I mean all marriages are 50/50 anyway these days. If they have a shot at happiness and it makes him happy, then good for him! I'm sure it does not make his heart ache any less that he lost his wife who he obviously loved so much.

Understand too, Michael Sweet's grieving did not start the day his wife died... it started the day she was diagnosed with cancer. That takes on a grief all on it's own and he was preparing for all that time before she actually passed. He had a lot of time to hurt and grieve before she was gone. I can't imagine.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:55 am

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Thanks, SPH. He told me two weeks b/f he passed that he wanted to be with mom, that she was alone in heaven and needed him there, and that he had had a great life but he wanted to be with her. Two weeks later he had a massive heart attack, just the way he wanted to go, quickly. I'm thankful for that, as he was in ill health, and he was so fearful of a stroke or lingering illness. It was hard for us to lose him so close in time, but I know he was at peace finally.

But watching him cry for that whole year and the continual sadness in his eyes was too much for me to bear. I would have wanted him to find a companion to love and care for him, even though it would have killed me to see someone in my mom's place. But it would be selfish for me to wish otherwise. But I spent a lot of time with him and have wonderful memories of that year together, even though the house seemed so empty without mom. 8)


Awe:( I know that happens too, that when people are elderly, they do pass closely to their spouse. My mom was having chest pain about a month after my dad passed so she went to the doctor. I mean they ran all kinds of tests and she was fine. But the doctor said that there is a reason they say people have a "broken heart". That you can actually have physical pain when you are grieving that way. I believe that's true. And the stress is very hard. That's really good you got to spend that year with him and have those memories!
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Postby Melissa » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:01 am

Interesting stuff to read here. And I too will not judge him at all, no one should. I remember reading that also when I think they got engaged, and honestly yes I did for a fleeting moment think of how soon. But then again, when you watch people go through something that devastating, as I did with my own parents, you just don't have a clue of the darkness and absolute hell that someone losing their spouse is in when they are as close as couples like that are. You just don't know. And if someone comes along in their life that they feel they want to spend the rest of what's left of their own lives with, and it brings them peace, I understand completely.
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Postby Voyager » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:01 am

Grieving is rough, and being alone can also be rough. But grieving while alone is even worse.

I say good for him, he fulfilled his marriage vows "until death do us part" so who can fault him? He can either sit alone and stare at her photo and sob, or as he said - he can move on and find someone else since he doesn't like living alone. I don't see it as him loving his former wife any less at all.

This is a good Michael Sweet song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJpNZ0Xij9k

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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:12 am

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StevePerryHair wrote: It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.


This is exactly what bothers me about rushing into a new marriage~ not giving yourself enough time
to grieve... :?


Lynn, you make some good points in the several posts above. It's really just looking at the situation from two different life experiences, there is (obviously) no universal right or wrong. MG cuts to the heart of the matter for me right here ^^^, though. Yes, grieving began when she was diagnosed, but the grieving upon death is something totally unique and something you can't steel yourself for, no matter how much advance notice or lack thereof you have (eg cancer vs a tragic car accident). NOTHING can prepare you for the actual loss. I lost one grandmother to breast cancer, a grandfather to lung cancer (fuckin cigs), and my other grandfather to heart disease. They all happened gradually and we were "prepared," but nothing can truly prepare you for the ACTUAL feeling/situation of loss, at least imo.

I'm with MG, you need time to grieve. One of the aforementioned co-workers (actually, my old boss) made a promise to his wife that there'd never be anybody else... she died when he was 50. Well, that was awfully young to make that promise, as he's a VERY healthy 60. He's one of those works out every day, vibrant, doesn't think about retiring, doesn't look a day over 50 type. So, after he had his "time to grieve," several years, turns out he did find someone else and it's pretty serious now. Good for him.

My perspective is you need that time and space. You feel differently. That's fine. I'm also somewhat looking at it through the kids' lens, since I can still imagine what it would feel like if one of my parents passed and the other remarried so soon. I'd 99% be likely to be pissed about that.
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Postby Melissa » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:14 am

Ehwmatt wrote:That's because you fuckin women do too much for us and we can't take care of ourselves without you once we get used to it :lol: :lol:


Nice to see a man who can admit this :lol: My husband even said the same thing to me not too long ago :lol:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:23 am

LOL - if you look at the comments section on that blog, there are quite a few who share my sentiments, albeit less diplomatically:


some christian he is. ur wifes barely cold asshole



She's hot! You think Christianity is going to slow him down on this one? Not a chance! All joking (sort of) aside, you got to remember Christians have an answer for everything. And if they can't find an answer in their magic book, then they will "How-it-could-have-been" the problem and use that as an answer. I'm sure he's got all his shit worked out on this or he would not go through with it. I'm happy for him. No, really! Of course, one could be adult about it all and just work out what is rational to do or not on their own like a mature person without appeal to an invisible friend, but whatever.

And NO I'm not an atheist. But just look at the guys post! I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ! Anytime anyone has to mention God that much has got a real problem. It's like a security blanket or something. He cant go a second hardly without bringing up the big man upstairs. I mean, if someone talked about drugs that much, every other second, people would say, hey, you need help! Maybe his wife will mellow him out a bit. Good luck man!


If I was part of his late wife's family I would be a little annoyed to say the least. His kids have to be a little confused about this. If my wife passed I would be fucked up for awhile. Good luck.


Ten bucks says he was nailing her while the wife was still alive. I lost my mother when I was twelve (not from cancer but from illness) and I remember how horrified my siblings and I were when my father started dating someone less than a year after her death. To watch your father marry someone in that space of time ... man, those poor kids, even if they are teenagers. Way to show some respect for the mother of your children.


Well isn't it sweet, huh?

1. How is this music news? Who's interested in any musician's relationships and marital status?

2. It's less than a year since his wife passed away, already MARRYING a new woman...I wonder what the relatives of his late wife REALLY think about this...

3. Who is he trying to convince of his new marriage being so wonderfully righteous? Himself I guess...

4. Pulling God into everything all the time makes me sick...His wife died, but it's all God's plan according to him so it's all cool...He got married with another woman (he so deeply loves already) after less than a year after the DEATH of his first wife...but it's God who sent him this new wife, so it's more than blessed and OK for everyone concerned...


Ahhhhh what a freakin' joke this guy is.

Happy trails and all, but yeah... if she clocks off early I bet he'll be getting balls-deep with some other girl before she's six feet under.


I guess it was God's will for him to start fornicating as soon as possible.


It sure was nice of "the lord" to provide him with a new wife less than a year after he began "grieving". I guess "god" really does have a plan!


you are right. This guy "the Frontman of Stryper"(how long will he be called this?) is a reknown speed griever. Through the power of prayer, he managed to grieve in record time, roughly 48 hrs, he was over it, and onto Hairmetal Singles chat rooms, set up for women who love men who were in HairMetals, or wanted to be. Or just had great hair & looked good in spandex....this guy was married quicker than it takes to break in a good pair of leather trousers & white cowboy boots. I'm sure his deceased wife's family is happy for him.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:23 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote: It's nothing to do with "replacing". It has everything to do with lonliness.


This is exactly what bothers me about rushing into a new marriage~ not giving yourself enough time
to grieve... :?


Lynn, you make some good points in the several posts above. It's really just looking at the situation from two different life experiences, there is (obviously) no universal right or wrong. MG cuts to the heart of the matter for me right here ^^^, though. Yes, grieving began when she was diagnosed, but the grieving upon death is something totally unique and something you can't steel yourself for, no matter how much advance notice or lack thereof you have (eg cancer vs a tragic car accident). NOTHING can prepare you for the actual loss. I lost one grandmother to breast cancer, a grandfather to lung cancer (fuckin cigs), and my other grandfather to heart disease. They all happened gradually and we were "prepared," but nothing can truly prepare you for the ACTUAL feeling/situation of loss, at least imo.

I'm with MG, you need time to grieve. One of the aforementioned co-workers (actually, my old boss) made a promise to his wife that there'd never be anybody else... she died when he was 50. Well, that was awfully young to make that promise, as he's a VERY healthy 60. He's one of those works out every day, vibrant, doesn't think about retiring, doesn't look a day over 50 type. So, after he had his "time to grieve," several years, turns out he did find someone else and it's pretty serious now. Good for him.

My perspective is you need that time and space. You feel differently. That's fine. I'm also somewhat looking at it through the kids' lens, since I can still imagine what it would feel like if one of my parents passed and the other remarried so soon. I'd 99% be likely to be pissed about that.


No, nothing can prepare you. But I can tell you that my father died instantly at 46 from an unexpected brain anyeurysm and NOTHING is more shocking than an unexpected death of a young person. So then you have shock and grief. But then we always say watching him suffer would have been awful. Like let's say they had been able to save him,but he struggled the rest of his life or if it had been cancer. Either way is not easy. But our grieving started the moment he died and with cancer it's just different. There is so much grieving for so long in some cases, it's just a very hurtful process as you know.

And to promise a spouse there will never be another?? That's horrible and if my husband even TRIED to say that to me on my death bed I'd hit him over the head. That is way to much to expect of a person and for them to expect of themselves. I'm glad he found someone else! But see that's what I mean, sometimes they THINK there will never be another they can love that much, but then there is.

And you will make it really hard on your parent if that ever happens if you do that. I could not be that selfish because I saw my mom SO sad, and then I saw her HAPPY. Her happiness was at the top of my list for concerns after my dad passed. Now if her husband was an asshole, then I'd have a problem. But he is just a wonderful guy who I can not say ONE bad thing about! It really depends on SO many things and you just cant' judge until you are in those shoes. I have learned so much from my "experiences".

And everyone grieves at their own pace. Some grieve for years, some grieve for less. And honestly, what makes you think he's not STILL grieving?? That man will grieve his wife of 23 years the rest of his life in one way or another, guaranteed! Like Voyager said, grieving alone is hard. This woman loves him. She will help him through his grief and it is her choice to do so. She KNOWS the situation and still wants to be part of it. And his kids are not little babies or that young. I saw their pics. They are old enough to undertsand love and their father's happiness. And it may be hard on them at first, but if the marriage is happy, it will be okay. Maybe they already ARE happy which is why he could marry so soon.

As I said before, he is a religious man. And much of what you see, is probably a product of that also.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:24 am

Ehwmatt wrote:LOL - if you look at the comments section on that blog, there are quite a few who share my sentiments, albeit less diplomatically:


some christian he is. ur wifes barely cold asshole



She's hot! You think Christianity is going to slow him down on this one? Not a chance! All joking (sort of) aside, you got to remember Christians have an answer for everything. And if they can't find an answer in their magic book, then they will "How-it-could-have-been" the problem and use that as an answer. I'm sure he's got all his shit worked out on this or he would not go through with it. I'm happy for him. No, really! Of course, one could be adult about it all and just work out what is rational to do or not on their own like a mature person without appeal to an invisible friend, but whatever.

And NO I'm not an atheist. But just look at the guys post! I mean, Jesus Fucking Christ! Anytime anyone has to mention God that much has got a real problem. It's like a security blanket or something. He cant go a second hardly without bringing up the big man upstairs. I mean, if someone talked about drugs that much, every other second, people would say, hey, you need help! Maybe his wife will mellow him out a bit. Good luck man!


If I was part of his late wife's family I would be a little annoyed to say the least. His kids have to be a little confused about this. If my wife passed I would be fucked up for awhile. Good luck.


Ten bucks says he was nailing her while the wife was still alive. I lost my mother when I was twelve (not from cancer but from illness) and I remember how horrified my siblings and I were when my father started dating someone less than a year after her death. To watch your father marry someone in that space of time ... man, those poor kids, even if they are teenagers. Way to show some respect for the mother of your children.


Well isn't it sweet, huh?

1. How is this music news? Who's interested in any musician's relationships and marital status?

2. It's less than a year since his wife passed away, already MARRYING a new woman...I wonder what the relatives of his late wife REALLY think about this...

3. Who is he trying to convince of his new marriage being so wonderfully righteous? Himself I guess...

4. Pulling God into everything all the time makes me sick...His wife died, but it's all God's plan according to him so it's all cool...He got married with another woman (he so deeply loves already) after less than a year after the DEATH of his first wife...but it's God who sent him this new wife, so it's more than blessed and OK for everyone concerned...


Ahhhhh what a freakin' joke this guy is.

Happy trails and all, but yeah... if she clocks off early I bet he'll be getting balls-deep with some other girl before she's six feet under.


I guess it was God's will for him to start fornicating as soon as possible.


It sure was nice of "the lord" to provide him with a new wife less than a year after he began "grieving". I guess "god" really does have a plan!


you are right. This guy "the Frontman of Stryper"(how long will he be called this?) is a reknown speed griever. Through the power of prayer, he managed to grieve in record time, roughly 48 hrs, he was over it, and onto Hairmetal Singles chat rooms, set up for women who love men who were in HairMetals, or wanted to be. Or just had great hair & looked good in spandex....this guy was married quicker than it takes to break in a good pair of leather trousers & white cowboy boots. I'm sure his deceased wife's family is happy for him.



Yes, sad there are so many people who will judge a person without walking in their shoes.. isn't it?? :P
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