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Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:21 am

Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh and televangelist Pat Robertson are being scolded for their comments in the immediate aftermath of an earthquake in Haiti that has killed tens of thousands, according to early estimates.

Critics from both the left and right are denouncing their remarks as insensitive to the disaster and attempts to score political points off human tragedy.

Speaking on his radio show Wednesday, Limbaugh said the earthquake has played into Obama’s hands, allowing the president to look “compassionate” and “humanitarian” while at the same time bolstering his standing in both the “light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in this country.”

He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.”

Limbaugh’s comments were, in part, a riff on Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) much publicized remark in a new book that Obama was able to win the election because he is “light-skinned” and lacks a “Negro dialect.”

But regardless of the intended context, Limbaugh’s comments have been widely panned.

“They are deeply insensitive,” said conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

“The president speaks for the country when he says we’re going to go in there,” he said. “You want your whole nation, and it’s very positive. And I think Rush’s comments were cynical.”

Sitting next to Buchanan on set, host Joe Scarborough called Limbaugh’s comments “deplorable.”

“The insensitivity is stunning,” said the former Republican congressman.

Liberal commentators also quickly jumped on Limbaugh.

“Limbaugh did not know when to just shut up,” said liberal commentator Keith Olbermann on his MSNBC show “Countdown.” “Today he blamed communism for the poverty of Haiti, blamed President Obama for holding a news conference the day after this cataclysm when he did not hold one after the failed half-assed terror attempt in Detroit.”

John Amato from the left-leaning website Crooks and Liars added that “with thousands of people dead already and as the suffering continues in Haiti, Limbaugh and his ilk only care about one thing: destroying Obama.”

The conservative media watchdog site Newsbusters stepped up to defend Limbaugh, saying his comments were not put in proper context, but very few others are backing the conservative firebrand’s latest controversial remarks.

While Limbaugh received a modicum of support, nobody of note has stepped up to defend Robertson’s claim that Haiti got hit by an earthquake because it is “cursed.”

Speaking about the disaster during his program “The 700 Club” on the Christian Broadcasting Network, Robertson said that when Haiti was still a French colony its leaders “swore a pact to the devil” to get out from “under the heel of the French.”

“They said, ‘we will serve you if you will get us free from the French.’ True story. And so, the devil said, ‘OK, it’s a deal,’” Robertson claimed, as was recorded and sent around by the liberal group Media Matters.

“But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other,” he continued. “That island of Hispaniola is one island. It is cut down the middle on the one side is Haiti the other is the Dominican Republic. Dominican Republic is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etc. Haiti is in desperate poverty.”

Robertson, who has a long history of making controversial remarks on his program, urged his followers to pray for the residents of Haiti and said that “out of this tragedy I’m optimistic something good may come.”

Speaking on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” White House adviser Valerie Jarrett said Thursday morning she was left “speechless” by Robertson’s remarks.

“That's not the attitude that expresses the spirit of the president or the American people, so I thought it was a pretty stunning comment to make,” she said.

A statement from Robertson’s spokesman Chris Roslan tried to downplay the “cursed” remark.

“Dr. Robertson never stated that the earthquake was God’s wrath,” the statement read. “If you watch the entire video segment, Dr. Robertson’s compassion for the people of Haiti is clear. He called for prayer for them. His humanitarian arm has been working to help thousands of people in Haiti over the last year, and they are currently launching a major relief and recovery effort to help the victims of this disaster.”
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Postby Suzanne » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:37 am

Asses. I wouldn't listen to them if they said it was sunny outside right now. (And it is) :roll:

I had a co-worker have the same attitude and I just walked away. I didn't know what to even say to his ignorance. I had commented on how the radio was full of the American Idol crap and not what the REAL news was (about Haiti) and he says, "Who the F**K cares about Haiti? Do you know what Haiti means in Greek? HELL!" WTF? :evil:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:42 am

So basically ALL the asses come out of the woodwork when there is a crisis at hand.... what a shock :shock: :lol:
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:50 am

Although made in a typically inflammatory manner, Limbaugh's comments really aren't far off the mark. See the other threads for my reasoning.
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Postby RocknRoll » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:49 am

Fact Finder wrote:Context is everything....I imagine most here won't read it, so I won't bother to C&P the whole thing..here is the whole transcript that has liberal media yelling and screaming like the little babies they are....


http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/ ... guest.html


Thanks for posting this. I don't follow Limbaugh so it was definitely interesting reading.

My first thought yesterday was Rahl Emmanual and his philosophy "Never let a good crisis go to waste"

It's still a tragedy and they do need all the help we can offer, but I hate it when politics become a motive.
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Postby squirt1 » Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:15 pm

Where are the Reverends Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton and Louis Farrahkan either down there in the trenches or getting on TV to organize relief. They love that TV facetime.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:17 pm

Rush didn't say "don't donate"...he said don't donate thru the government. If you donate $10 thru the government the people suffering would be lucky to see $3 of it.

Better to listen and be informed than not listen and remain ignorant.
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Postby SteveForever » Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:32 pm

RedWingFan wrote:Rush didn't say "don't donate"...he said don't donate thru the government. If you donate $10 thru the government the people suffering would be lucky to see $3 of it.

Better to listen and be informed than not listen and remain ignorant.


I've read Samaritan's Purse is a trustworthy organization...
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Postby SherriBerry » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:49 pm

SteveForever wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Rush didn't say "don't donate"...he said don't donate thru the government. If you donate $10 thru the government the people suffering would be lucky to see $3 of it.

Better to listen and be informed than not listen and remain ignorant.


I've read Samaritan's Purse is a trustworthy organization...


Every year at Christmas, one of the local churches collects shoeboxes full of gifts for children for Samaritan's Purse and I donate every year - I believe they are a trustworthy organization too.
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Postby SherriBerry » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:00 pm

I don't like Limbaugh, but I agree that it would be better to donate to a reputable charity than any government organization. When people are in a desperate crisis, such as the current state in Haiti, we send aid because we are decent people who care and want to help others. The politics should not matter - it isn't a time to ask why, it's a time to act and save lives.

Who cares that our governments are sending monetary aid collected through our income taxes and therefore we have technically already donated? Like millions of others around the globe who donated to the Red Cross when Katrina hit New Orleans or the Wildfires ravaged parts of Australia, I gave what extra I could because I wanted to help those who were suffering the only way I could and wished I had more to give knowing that whatever was given would probably not be enough. It's a human instinct we should feel good about and the idea that someone like Limbaugh would try to quash it is disheartening.
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Postby strangegrey » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:55 pm

Behshad,

Complete load of shit. The original article that you quoted is a fabricated pile of horse shit.


I heard the original comments that Limbaugh said...and they are SO far out of context that the underlying meanings are lost to the reader.


What Limbaugh CLEARLY said in his broadcast was that the US government was already forwarding aid to Haiti (even though it's an abomination about how slowly things are getting there....people complain about Bush in Katrina...Obama is fucking up Haiti like a first term senator with no executive experience)....

...and that his underlying message was that people should give to independent PRIVATE charities sending aid to Haiti.


Seriously.....pure bullshit dude. Find a better reason to harp on Limbaugh....this one is as stupid as Olberman's collection of ganster suits.
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Postby Behshad » Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:58 pm

strangegrey wrote:Behshad,

Complete load of shit. The original article that you quoted is a fabricated pile of horse shit.


I heard the original comments that Limbaugh said...and they are SO far out of context that the underlying meanings are lost to the reader.


What Limbaugh CLEARLY said in his broadcast was that the US government was already forwarding aid to Haiti (even though it's an abomination about how slowly things are getting there....people complain about Bush in Katrina...Obama is fucking up Haiti like a first term senator with no executive experience)....

...and that his underlying message was that people should give to independent PRIVATE charities sending aid to Haiti.


Seriously.....pure bullshit dude. Find a better reason to harp on Limbaugh....this one is as stupid as Olberman's collection of ganster suits.


As FF would say,,, dont shoot the messenger :lol: :wink:
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Postby artist4perry » Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:17 am

Behshad wrote:
strangegrey wrote:Behshad,

Complete load of shit. The original article that you quoted is a fabricated pile of horse shit.


I heard the original comments that Limbaugh said...and they are SO far out of context that the underlying meanings are lost to the reader.


What Limbaugh CLEARLY said in his broadcast was that the US government was already forwarding aid to Haiti (even though it's an abomination about how slowly things are getting there....people complain about Bush in Katrina...Obama is fucking up Haiti like a first term senator with no executive experience)....

...and that his underlying message was that people should give to independent PRIVATE charities sending aid to Haiti.


Seriously.....pure bullshit dude. Find a better reason to harp on Limbaugh....this one is as stupid as Olberman's collection of ganster suits.


As FF would say,,, dont shoot the messenger :lol: :wink:


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Postby wastingbeerz » Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:29 am

StevePerryHair wrote:So basically ALL the asses come out of the woodwork when there is a crisis at hand.... what a shock :shock: :lol:


Eh, they've been out of the woodwork for many years now.
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Postby strangegrey » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:03 am

Behshad wrote:As FF would say,,, dont shoot the messenger :lol: :wink:



No, just the idiots that don't know the difference between truth and bullshit...
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Postby Lula » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:39 am

RedWingFan wrote:Rush didn't say "don't donate"...he said don't donate thru the government. If you donate $10 thru the government the people suffering would be lucky to see $3 of it.

Better to listen and be informed than not listen and remain ignorant.

You may be listening, but your critical thinking skills apparently took the night off. Here's what Obama said -

"Despite the fact that we are experiencing tough times here at home, I would encourage those Americans who want to support the urgent humanitarian efforts to go to WhiteHouse.gov where you can learn how to contribute."

Contrary to the characterization Limbaugh and his dittohead caller paint, there is no effort by Obama to solicit funds directly to the government. The White House website just provides links to private aid organizations such as the Red Cross. There IS a link to a federal agency, USAid, but it is just one among SEVERAL. As usual, Limbaugh takes a grain of truth and then exagerates it, or more accurately, lies.
His divisive act is old, and anyone who takes him at his word is a political tool.

Hopefully, his buffoonery will only convince people to check out the Obama website for themselves and give whatever they can.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/haitiearthquake_embed
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Postby cyndy! » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:19 am

satan responds to robertson in a letter to the editor:
http://www.startribune.com/opinion/lett ... 95442.html
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:13 am

Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Rush didn't say "don't donate"...he said don't donate thru the government. If you donate $10 thru the government the people suffering would be lucky to see $3 of it.

Better to listen and be informed than not listen and remain ignorant.

You may be listening, but your critical thinking skills apparently took the night off. Here's what Obama said -

"Despite the fact that we are experiencing tough times here at home, I would encourage those Americans who want to support the urgent humanitarian efforts to go to WhiteHouse.gov where you can learn how to contribute."

Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:28 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Rush didn't say "don't donate"...he said don't donate thru the government. If you donate $10 thru the government the people suffering would be lucky to see $3 of it.

Better to listen and be informed than not listen and remain ignorant.

You may be listening, but your critical thinking skills apparently took the night off. Here's what Obama said -

"Despite the fact that we are experiencing tough times here at home, I would encourage those Americans who want to support the urgent humanitarian efforts to go to WhiteHouse.gov where you can learn how to contribute."

Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.


Now now,,, chill out,,,,

1, sorry to start a thread that takes a nice shot at your dad :lol:

and

2 I thought we already did have a thread for Obama lies,,, the 1st term thread :P :lol: ;)


See? at least I have the sense of humor to pick on all of them,,,, not like you , crybaby, thinking Rush = God

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Postby Lula » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:47 am

RedWingFan wrote:Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.

Ok, but that's a false premise. Obama never asked people to donate directly to the government. He simply directed people to the WhiteHouse website, which is being used as a clearinghouse for information on how citizens can help. Just how blinded by partisan rage must someone be to think that is a bad thing?
If nothing else, this is the reason we have a strong central government. Had George W. Bush directed Americans to the same website in the wake of Katrina, or the Indian ocean tsunami, who would object?
Limbaugh's an unconscionable pig.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 10:59 am

Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.

Ok, but that's a false premise. Obama never asked people to donate directly to the government. He simply directed people to the WhiteHouse website, which is being used as a clearinghouse for information on how citizens can help. Just how blinded by partisan rage must someone be to think that is a bad thing?
If nothing else, this is the reason we have a strong central government. Had George W. Bush directed Americans to the same website in the wake of Katrina, or the Indian ocean tsunami, who would object?
Limbaugh's an unconscionable pig.

How blinded by ass kissing devotion must one be to trust any man or administration that asks it's citizens to "forward" emails to the White House website to identify "who" is disagreeing with the government????
George W. Bush wasn't a follower of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinski, and didn't appoint czars or self avowed communists to serve with him in the White House!!!!!
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Postby Behshad » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:00 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.

Ok, but that's a false premise. Obama never asked people to donate directly to the government. He simply directed people to the WhiteHouse website, which is being used as a clearinghouse for information on how citizens can help. Just how blinded by partisan rage must someone be to think that is a bad thing?
If nothing else, this is the reason we have a strong central government. Had George W. Bush directed Americans to the same website in the wake of Katrina, or the Indian ocean tsunami, who would object?
Limbaugh's an unconscionable pig.

How blinded by ass kissing devotion must one be to trust any man or administration that asks it's citizens to "forward" emails to the White House website to identify "who" is disagreeing with the government????
George W. Bush wasn't a follower of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinski, and didn't appoint czars or self avowed communists to serve with him in the White House!!!!!


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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:23 am

Behshad wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.

Ok, but that's a false premise. Obama never asked people to donate directly to the government. He simply directed people to the WhiteHouse website, which is being used as a clearinghouse for information on how citizens can help. Just how blinded by partisan rage must someone be to think that is a bad thing?
If nothing else, this is the reason we have a strong central government. Had George W. Bush directed Americans to the same website in the wake of Katrina, or the Indian ocean tsunami, who would object?
Limbaugh's an unconscionable pig.

How blinded by ass kissing devotion must one be to trust any man or administration that asks it's citizens to "forward" emails to the White House website to identify "who" is disagreeing with the government????
George W. Bush wasn't a follower of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinski, and didn't appoint czars or self avowed communists to serve with him in the White House!!!!!

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I'll take that as "Those are great points that I have no intelligent response for" :lol: I also notice you post ALOT of funny pictures! lol
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Postby Behshad » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:24 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Behshad wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.

Ok, but that's a false premise. Obama never asked people to donate directly to the government. He simply directed people to the WhiteHouse website, which is being used as a clearinghouse for information on how citizens can help. Just how blinded by partisan rage must someone be to think that is a bad thing?
If nothing else, this is the reason we have a strong central government. Had George W. Bush directed Americans to the same website in the wake of Katrina, or the Indian ocean tsunami, who would object?
Limbaugh's an unconscionable pig.

How blinded by ass kissing devotion must one be to trust any man or administration that asks it's citizens to "forward" emails to the White House website to identify "who" is disagreeing with the government????
George W. Bush wasn't a follower of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinski, and didn't appoint czars or self avowed communists to serve with him in the White House!!!!!

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I'll take that as "Those are great points that I have no intelligent response for" :lol:


well, if thats how you feel , anytime after you need to wipe your tears, or sneeze, sure.......

youve been doing nothing but whining tonite,,,,,let it go,,,, you cant and wont make a change !,,, ;)
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:27 am

Behshad wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Behshad wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.

Ok, but that's a false premise. Obama never asked people to donate directly to the government. He simply directed people to the WhiteHouse website, which is being used as a clearinghouse for information on how citizens can help. Just how blinded by partisan rage must someone be to think that is a bad thing?
If nothing else, this is the reason we have a strong central government. Had George W. Bush directed Americans to the same website in the wake of Katrina, or the Indian ocean tsunami, who would object?
Limbaugh's an unconscionable pig.

How blinded by ass kissing devotion must one be to trust any man or administration that asks it's citizens to "forward" emails to the White House website to identify "who" is disagreeing with the government????
George W. Bush wasn't a follower of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinski, and didn't appoint czars or self avowed communists to serve with him in the White House!!!!!

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I'll take that as "Those are great points that I have no intelligent response for" :lol:


well, if thats how you feel , anytime after you need to wipe your tears, or sneeze, sure.......

youve been doing nothing but whining tonite,,,,,let it go,,,, you cant and wont make a change !,,, ;)
You better tell that to Congressional Democrats before more of them quit! The American people don't want what this administration and party are forcing on them.
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Postby Behshad » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:30 am

RedWingFan wrote:
Behshad wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Behshad wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:
Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Like I said, Rush didn't say "don't donate", he said don't donate thru the government.
That's the lie that this thread was started for. I think we need a thread exclusively for Obama lies. That'd be the most extensive thread in the history of this site.

Ok, but that's a false premise. Obama never asked people to donate directly to the government. He simply directed people to the WhiteHouse website, which is being used as a clearinghouse for information on how citizens can help. Just how blinded by partisan rage must someone be to think that is a bad thing?
If nothing else, this is the reason we have a strong central government. Had George W. Bush directed Americans to the same website in the wake of Katrina, or the Indian ocean tsunami, who would object?
Limbaugh's an unconscionable pig.

How blinded by ass kissing devotion must one be to trust any man or administration that asks it's citizens to "forward" emails to the White House website to identify "who" is disagreeing with the government????
George W. Bush wasn't a follower of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinski, and didn't appoint czars or self avowed communists to serve with him in the White House!!!!!

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I'll take that as "Those are great points that I have no intelligent response for" :lol:


well, if thats how you feel , anytime after you need to wipe your tears, or sneeze, sure.......

youve been doing nothing but whining tonite,,,,,let it go,,,, you cant and wont make a change !,,, ;)
You better tell that to Congressional Democrats before more of them quit! The American people don't want what this administration and party are forcing on them.


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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:31 am

RedWingFan wrote:How blinded by ass kissing devotion must one be to trust any man or administration that asks its citizens to "forward" emails to the White House website to identify "who" is disagreeing with the government????

Considering that the HMO-written healthcare reform bill ended up getting slimed as a “socialist plot” anyway, I’d say the White House was correct in being vigilant about misinformation.
In fact, they probably weren’t pro-active enough.
You got Obama negotiating behind closed doors to make the bill palatable to big pharma, and meanwhile, twits like Sarah Palin are screaming about commie Kenyan death panels. :roll:
But this has nothing to do with Lula's point...
President Obama directed people to the White House website where there are links to a variety of aid organizations, including the Red Cross.
There is also State Department contact info so Americans can check on their loved ones.
I don't care if you're a liberal, a conservative, or some sort of LaRouche anarchist, these are good things.
This is EXACTLY what the US Government is supposed to do in a time of crisis.

RedWingFan wrote:George W. Bush wasn't a follower of Rev. Wright, Saul Alinski, and didn't appoint czars or self avowed communists to serve with him in the White House!!!!!
You’re right.
W was only a member of skull and bones, his dad was the head of the CIA and strangely can’t recall where he was on November 22, 1963, and his grandfather funded the Nazi war machine.
Other than that, the Bush record is squeaky clean. :roll:

And by the way, Bush DID appoint Czars.
35 of them total. 3 more than Obama.
So did Reagan and every President dating back to FDR.
Not sure where you get your facts from, but this has been debunked and then some.

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Czars.pdf
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:34 am

Behshad wrote:"we'll see "

Dude seriously. I never thought I'd see the day a republican would win a senate seat in New Jersey, which just happened, much less even be competetive in Mass.

I don't know if Brown will be able to pull it out or not. But the fact that Democrat/Socialist party has to dump so many resources there is VERY telling.
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