9/11 photos

[steveo777]

http://www.911myths.com/html/explosion_and_smoke.html

Don't let the FACTS get in the way of a good story eh?

Let me ask you this. What do YOU think happened onboard that flight?

I have a feeling I know but I'll let Tomulator answer.

[Tomulator]

http://www.911myths.com/html/explosion_and_smoke.html

Don't let the FACTS get in the way of a good story eh?

Let me ask you this. What do YOU think happened onboard that flight?

Exactly what the 9/11 commission concluded. Exactly what the cockpit data recorder, cell phone records, witness remarks, etc. said happened. Why should I believe otherwise?

Your mommy never held you, did she?

[Tomulator]

http://911myths.com/index.php/Image:Tea ... meline.pdf

[Behshad]

http://www.911myths.com/html/explosion_and_smoke.html

Don't let the FACTS get in the way of a good story eh?

Let me ask you this. What do YOU think happened onboard that flight?

Exactly what the 9/11 commission concluded. Exactly what the cockpit data recorder, cell phone records, witness remarks, etc. said happened. Why should I believe otherwise?

Your mommy never held you, did she?

So you just go by 9/11 comission, which means you say clear and loud that the government NEVER lies to people. correct !???

no, but your mom sure held me {if you know what I mean }

[Tomulator]

http://www.911myths.com/html/explosion_and_smoke.html

Don't let the FACTS get in the way of a good story eh?

Let me ask you this. What do YOU think happened onboard that flight?

Exactly what the 9/11 commission concluded. Exactly what the cockpit data recorder, cell phone records, witness remarks, etc. said happened. Why should I believe otherwise?

Your mommy never held you, did she?

So you just go by 9/11 comission, which means you say clear and loud that the government NEVER lies to people. correct !???

no, but your mom sure held me {if you know what I mean }

No...I don't know what you mean.


Elaborate pussy.

[Behshad]

http://www.911myths.com/html/explosion_and_smoke.html

Don't let the FACTS get in the way of a good story eh?

Let me ask you this. What do YOU think happened onboard that flight?

Exactly what the 9/11 commission concluded. Exactly what the cockpit data recorder, cell phone records, witness remarks, etc. said happened. Why should I believe otherwise?

Your mommy never held you, did she?

So you just go by 9/11 comission, which means you say clear and loud that the government NEVER lies to people. correct !???

no, but your mom sure held me {if you know what I mean }

No...I don't know what you mean.


Elaborate pussy.

You want me to elaborate your mom's vagina to you !?

[Behshad]

Just in your own words, without any other sources tell me,,, was the flight taken down by

a)hereos onboard
b)terrorists
c)shot by a plane

[Tomulator]

Just in your own words, without any other sources tell me,,, was the flight taken down by

a)hereos onboard
b)terrorists
c)shot by a plane

My OPINION is that a struggle occurred, the plane lost control and was run into the ground. There are facts to back up my opinion.

Now, on to more important topics like why you have never made love to a woman in your life...

It must make you sad, eh?

[Behshad]

Just in your own words, without any other sources tell me,,, was the flight taken down by

a)hereos onboard
b)terrorists
c)shot by a plane

My OPINION is that a struggle occurred, the plane lost control and was run into the ground. There are facts to back up my opinion.

Now, on to more important topics like why you have never made love to a woman in your life...

It must make you sad, eh?

so you couldnt even choose an answer between three simple options ,,, THATS more sad....

[Tomulator]

Just in your own words, without any other sources tell me,,, was the flight taken down by

a)hereos onboard
b)terrorists
c)shot by a plane

My OPINION is that a struggle occurred, the plane lost control and was run into the ground. There are facts to back up my opinion.

Now, on to more important topics like why you have never made love to a woman in your life...

It must make you sad, eh?

so you couldnt even choose an answer between three simple options ,,, THATS more sad....

You failed to give the answer in your options.

I deal in facts, not rumors, conspiracies, conjecture, etc.

Do you know what a woman looks like naked...I mean...have you ever really touched one? Other than your sister, I mean...

[Behshad]

Just in your own words, without any other sources tell me,,, was the flight taken down by

a)hereos onboard
b)terrorists
c)shot by a plane

My OPINION is that a struggle occurred, the plane lost control and was run into the ground. There are facts to back up my opinion.

Now, on to more important topics like why you have never made love to a woman in your life...

It must make you sad, eh?

so you couldnt even choose an answer between three simple options ,,, THATS more sad....

You failed to give the answer in your options.

I deal in facts, not rumors, conspiracies, conjecture, etc.

Do you know what a woman looks like naked...I mean...have you ever really touched one? Other than your sister, I mean...

You believe theyre facts only cause you belive in what the media and goverment feeds you. And your debating skills is more like a 12 year trying to convince himself that just cause he never fucked another girl, no one else has.



According to the official story, Flight 93, the fourth jetliner commandeered on 9/11/01, was flown into the ground near Shanksville, PA, as a result of a struggle in the cockpit between the hijackers and passengers who had rushed them in an attempt to gain control of the aircraft or otherwise prevent it from crashing into a strategic target, such as the U.S. Capitol.

The evidence shows that Flight 93 did indeed crash near Shanksville, and suggests that the passengers did struggle to gain control of the plane. However, the cause of the crash was apparently trauma to the aircraft -- such as a missile strike -- rather than the actions of whoever was in the cockpit. Evidence of such trauma preceding the jetliner's nose-dive includes the widely scattered debris field, numerous ear- and eyewitness accounts, and evidence that NORAD and the 9/11 Commission changed the timeline to hide the plane's true fate.

Far-Flung Debris

This and other photographs show a deep impact crater, indicating that the plane plunged into the ground at a steep angle.
Local officials stated that crash debris was spread over a wide area. According to the Pittsburg Post-Gazette, state police Major Lyle Szupinka "confirmed that debris from the plane had turned up in relatively far-flung sites, including the residential area of Indian Lake." 1 The residential areas of Indian Lake range from three to six miles from the crash site. As noted on the pages describing Flight 93 and its crash site, there were a number of debris fields. Small debris descended over Indian Lake and New Baltimore, about three and eight miles from the primary crash site, and an engine core was separated from the main impact crater by about 2000 feet.

Some officials have suggested that wind scattered the debris once on the ground, but wind certainly couldn't have blown a one-ton engine a half-mile, nor could the 9-mile-per-hour wind have blown debris for eight miles.


Debris fields from Flight 93 were scattered across eight miles.
An article in Popular Mechanics attempts to explain the far-flung debris by suggesting that the engine "tumbl[ed] across the ground" and that the light debris was "blasted skyward by the heat of the explosion from the crash." Such scenarios are impossible given the nature of the crash, wherein the plane dove into the soft ground from a nearly vertical trajectory. This is evident in the deep impact crater whose shape mimics the cross-section of the aircraft, and by the agreement among eyewitness that the plane dropped from the sky in a vertical fashion.

Struck in the Air
Eyewitness accounts corroborate physical evidence that portions of the plane were destroyed in the air, consistent with a missile strike from a nearby military plane. These accounts support the following elements.

A white jet in pursuit of the jetliner
Peculiar engine sounds before the crash
Sounds of explosions before the plane fell from the sky
Appearances that the plane suddenly began to drop vertically

Further evidence that Flight 93 was shot down was provided by an apparent slip-up by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld in an interview with Brigadier General James Marks aired on December 24, 2004.

I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word 'terrorized' is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be. 2 3
[emphasis added]
Fudging the Timeline
There are several independent lines of evidence that establish that Flight 93 crashed at 10:06 in Shanksville, PA. These include the following:

Seismic signals recorded by seismic observatories at Soldier's Delight, MD, and Millersville, PA, which pegged the impact time at 10:06:05, with an error margin of 5 seconds.
A report from Cleveland Air Traffic Control that they had lost radar contact with Flight 93 at 10:06. 4
Reports by witnesses on the ground of the plane flying low and erratically around 10:05. 5
Various press reports that put the time at 10:06. 6 7 8
Radar records released by the FAA. The Post-Gazette noted, two days after the attack:
The Federal Aviation Administration said yesterday it turned over to the FBI a radar record of United Airlines Flight 93's route.

The data traced the Boeing 757-200 from its takeoff from Newark, N.J., to its violent end at 10:06 a.m., just outside Shanksville, about 80 miles southeast of Pittsburgh. 9

Despite these extensive bodies of credible evidence establishing Flight 93's impact time at 10:06 AM, NORAD and the 9/11 Commission asserted that impact was at 10:03. NORAD provides no evidence to back up its claim, but the Commission provides a long footnote to justify its use of 10:03.

[Tomulator]

All that information that you so eloquently "cut and pasted" is debunked in any of the number of links I sent you.

Read them.

Thanks.

You know...there are drugs you can take to help you with your erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation. Your sister would thank you...

[Behshad]

All that information that you so eloquently "cut and pasted" is debunked in any of the number of links I sent you.

Read them.

Thanks.

You know...there are drugs you can take to help you with your erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation. Your sister would thank you...

Again,
just cause the only person that dates you is your sister, doesnt mean its the same for everyone else,,, Try to travel more often,, there is some life outside kentucky
And Again, just cause you need to take drugs to get a hardon, doesnt mean everyone else suffers from the same

[Tomulator]

All that information that you so eloquently "cut and pasted" is debunked in any of the number of links I sent you.

Read them.

Thanks.

You know...there are drugs you can take to help you with your erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation. Your sister would thank you...

Again,
just cause the only person that dates you is your sister, doesnt mean its the same for everyone else,,, Try to travel more often,, there is some life outside kentucky
And Again, just cause you need to take drugs to get a hardon, doesnt mean everyone else suffers from the same

Oooh...that was an original "come back".



Go take a nap...your brain must be worn out from that last exchange.

[Behshad]

All that information that you so eloquently "cut and pasted" is debunked in any of the number of links I sent you.

Read them.

Thanks.

You know...there are drugs you can take to help you with your erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation. Your sister would thank you...

Again,
just cause the only person that dates you is your sister, doesnt mean its the same for everyone else,,, Try to travel more often,, there is some life outside kentucky
And Again, just cause you need to take drugs to get a hardon, doesnt mean everyone else suffers from the same

Oooh...that was an original "come back".



Go take a nap...your brain must be worn out from that last exchange.

I already took my nap you may need one tho,,,,, If your sister ever lets you leave Kentucky, come to Chicago in May , I will buy you a beer while we continue this discussion,,,,,,

Im surprised that with all these facts you throw at me, you didnt say ONE thing about Rumsfelds little comment that slipped ,,,,

[Rockindeano]

Also, what about the fact that the FBI wouldn't and won't release the last 3 minutes of the voice recording from the cockpit. that voice recording was said to contain a sound that depicted "wind noise" suggesting the plane had been holed(via missile).

Come on Tom, debris "falling out of the sky" in Indian lake which is 6.9 miles away? How the fuck can you or anyone debunk that? The Government can "prove" that an elephant can hang over a cliff with it's tail tied to a daisy, but it doesn't make it true. Our government is one of the most corrupt in the world.

I have no sister or mom smack to run, so I will just wait for you two to do that.

[Saint John]

Come on Tom, debris "falling out of the sky" in Indian lake which is 6.9 miles away? How the fuck can you or anyone debunk that?

Easily. (From Popular Mechanics) "Wallace Miller, Somerset County coroner, tells PM no body parts were found in Indian Lake. Human remains were confined to a 70-acre area directly surrounding the crash site. Paper and tiny scraps of sheetmetal, however, did land in the lake. "Very light debris will fly into the air, because of the concussion," says former National Transportation Safety Board investigator Matthew McCormick. Indian Lake is less than 1.5 miles southeast of the impact crater — not 6 miles — easily within range of debris blasted skyward by the heat of the explosion from the crash. And the wind that day was northwesterly, at 9 to 12 mph, which means it was blowing from the northwest — toward Indian Lake."

[The_Noble_Cause]

The conspiratorial-minded on here may want to take a look at this new article - especially those who had doubts about the 2004 election.
I remember reading of this guy's death. Interesting that his own sister now suspects foul play.

http://www.maxim.com/humor/stupid-fun/8 ... -guru.html

[Rockindeano]

The conspiratorial-minded on here may want to take a look at this new article - especially those who had doubts about the 2004 election.
I remember reading of this guy's death. Interesting that his own sister now suspects foul play.

http://www.maxim.com/humor/stupid-fun/8 ... -guru.html

WOW. That is a helluva read. Seems there is ample evidence that Rove is a murderer. I wonder if there will ever be an investigation by the Obama administration into this. This is the very fabric of what America is supposed to be about, and the GOP just laughs in the face of democracy and then kills anyone who may be in their way. Unbelievable.

[Saint John]

The conspiratorial-minded on here may want to take a look at this new article - especially those who had doubts about the 2004 election.

Seems like a lot of unofficial bullshit. Why can't democrats ever accept losing?

Interesting that his own sister now suspects foul play.

The bitch is a pro-Obama liberal. Shocker.

[Rockindeano]

The conspiratorial-minded on here may want to take a look at this new article - especially those who had doubts about the 2004 election.

Seems like a lot of unofficial bullshit. Why can't democrats ever accept losing?

Losing? The facts are there dude. The Democrats actually won Ohio. Did you read the article? There are screenshots of the "backup server" in Chattanooga. It's all right there. This was stolen. Hey if you want it to be about wins and losses, fine, but they are fucking with the roots of democracy. If they are allowed to continue this, what will ever stop them? What will we be left with? If you want to defend Karl Rove, then I just give up. No sense in debating then.

Yes, the "bitch" is an Obama supporter, but the wife isn't, and now even she has reservations about his death. The Bushes and Rove are some the worst people this world will ever know, including Osama bin Laden. They killed Connell.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Seems like a lot of unofficial bullshit.

All conspiracy theories are unofficial.
That's what makes them theory, not fact.

Why can't democrats ever accept losing?

The author is not a Democrat, he's not even American - probably hates Bush, but that's a given.
Books on JFK's death remain a six figure industry nearly 50 years later.
That doesn't mean Americans haven't accepted that his head was blown off.

[Saint John]

The conspiratorial-minded on here may want to take a look at this new article - especially those who had doubts about the 2004 election.

Seems like a lot of unofficial bullshit. Why can't democrats ever accept losing?

Losing? The facts are there dude. The Democrats actually won Ohio. Did you read the article. There are snapshots of the "backup server" in Chattanooga. It's all right there. This was stolen. Hey if you want it to be about wins and losses, fine, but they are fucking with the roots of democracy. If they are allowed to continue this, what will ever stop them? What will we be left with? If you want to defend Karl Rove, then I just give up. No sense in debating then.

Oh ... there's a pictureof the backup server! I read the entire article and there's not one "fact" that there were any proven election irregularities. None. Here are the fucking facts:

"At the official counting of the electoral votes on January 6, a motion was made contesting Ohio's electoral votes. Because the motion was supported by at least one member of both the House of Representatives and the Senate, election law mandated that each house retire to debate and vote on the motion. In the House of Representatives, the motion was supported by 31 Democrats. It was opposed by 178 Republicans, 88 Democrats and one independent. Not voting were 52 Republicans and 80 Democrats. Four people elected to the House had not yet taken office, and one seat was vacant. In the Senate, it was supported only by its maker, Senator Boxer, with 74 Senators opposed and 25 not voting."

No one believes this conspiracy bullshit except far left Obama dopes and skanky kunts like Barbara Boxer.

[Saint John]

"At the official counting of the electoral votes on January 6, a motion was made contesting Ohio's electoral votes. Because the motion was supported by at least one member of both the House of Representatives and the Senate, election law mandated that each house retire to debate and vote on the motion. In the House of Representatives, the motion was supported by 31 Democrats. It was opposed by 178 Republicans, 88 Democrats and one independent. Not voting were 52 Republicans and 80 Democrats. Four people elected to the House had not yet taken office, and one seat was vacant. In the Senate, it was supported only by its maker, Senator Boxer, with 74 Senators opposed and 25 not voting."

No one believes this conspiracy bullshit except far left Obama dopes and skanky kunts like Barbara Boxer.

And you actually trust politicians to do the right thing because?

No, but I'm quite sure that partisan politics would, at the very least, rear its ugly head and try to hammer home the idea of a sensationalized murder plot if there was even a shred of evidence pointing in that direction ... but there wasn't.

[Rockindeano]

The conspiratorial-minded on here may want to take a look at this new article - especially those who had doubts about the 2004 election.

Seems like a lot of unofficial bullshit. Why can't democrats ever accept losing?

Losing? The facts are there dude. The Democrats actually won Ohio. Did you read the article. There are snapshots of the "backup server" in Chattanooga. It's all right there. This was stolen. Hey if you want it to be about wins and losses, fine, but they are fucking with the roots of democracy. If they are allowed to continue this, what will ever stop them? What will we be left with? If you want to defend Karl Rove, then I just give up. No sense in debating then.

Oh ... there's a pictureof the backup server! I read the entire article and there's not one "fact" that there were any proven election irregularities. None. Here are the fucking facts:

"At the official counting of the electoral votes on January 6, a motion was made contesting Ohio's electoral votes. Because the motion was supported by at least one member of both the House of Representatives and the Senate, election law mandated that each house retire to debate and vote on the motion. In the House of Representatives, the motion was supported by 31 Democrats. It was opposed by 178 Republicans, 88 Democrats and one independent. Not voting were 52 Republicans and 80 Democrats. Four people elected to the House had not yet taken office, and one seat was vacant. In the Senate, it was supported only by its maker, Senator Boxer, with 74 Senators opposed and 25 not voting."

No one believes this conspiracy bullshit except far left Obama dopes and skanky kunts like Barbara Boxer.

What's wrong with supporting a conspiracy? It's not unpatriotic? In fact, it's a citizens duty, to call it's government out.

If I recall correctly, no one here, and I mean no one here, supported me on tapegate conspiracy either early on. It was only after they looked into it, they then believed. The American people, many of them, are afraid to question their government. For you Cons who want the Feds out of our lives so bad, you sure defend their actions.

And if there isn't any evidence in Connells death, what would you call the AMD transmitter put in his plane at College park the night before he left for home? And also, the screenshots in Chattanooga is staggering. They never ever should have been hosting the state of Ohio's election. There was no need for it, except to manipulate votes. I remember a quote I saw on TV regarding Rove. He was quoted as saying to the GOP leadership, "get us within(so many electoral votes), and I will get you the rest. " He sure as Hell did didn't he?

[Rockindeano]

The Bushes and Rove are some the worst people this world will ever know, including Osama bin Laden. They killed Connell.

Stop it, you're killing me laughing. I can't take it anymore.

BTW, I loved the way Hillary fucked Vince Foster, shot him, rolled him in a rug and had men take his body to Ft. Marcy Park. Then her and Bill had the jailers in Arkansas withhold Jim McDougals heart medicine.

I am glad I can fill your shallow brain with laughter. Again, you defend a guy like Rove? I have zero respect for you then. If he were a Democrat, you'd be calling for his head.

[Saint John]

What's wrong with supporting a conspiracy? It's not unpatriotic? In fact, it's a citizens duty, to call it's government out.

Just do your argument a favor and gather some facts first.

And if there isn't any evidence in Connells death, what would you call the AMD transmitter put in his plane at College park the night before he left for home? And also, the screenshots in Chattanooga is staggering.

Please present the evidence of both. Thanks.

[The_Noble_Cause]

No, but I'm quite sure that partisan politics would, at the very least, rear its ugly head and try to hammer home the idea of a sensationalized murder plot if there was even a shred of evidence pointing in that direction ... but there wasn't.

LOL.
You're talking about the same party that upon re-gaining the majority immediately said "impeachment is off the table."
The Democrats are the Republican's trained bitch, isn't that perfectly obvious by now?
If high crimes and misdemeanors like BS wars, illegal wiretaps, and torture prisons don’t incur the Democrats’ limp wristed wrath, why would something as ordinary as a little political assassination?

Also, the GOP IT tech died in 2008.
Not sure how a "sensationalist murder plot" could be used for political gain when the facts weren't even reported on until now.

[Saint John]

No, but I'm quite sure that partisan politics would, at the very least, rear its ugly head and try to hammer home the idea of a sensationalized murder plot if there was even a shred of evidence pointing in that direction ... but there wasn't.

LOL.
You're talking about the same party that upon re-gaining the majority immediately said "impeachment is off the table."
The Democrats are the Republican's trained bitch, isn't that perfectly obvious by now?
Also, the GOP IT tech died in 2008.
Not sure how a "sensationalist murder plot" could be used for political gain when the facts weren't even reported on until now.

Perhaps it's coming out now because the democrats are coming off a staggering loss in Massachusetts and looking terrible in other states?

[The_Noble_Cause]

Perhaps it's coming out now because the democrats are coming off a staggering loss in Massachusetts and looking terrible in other states?

If the Dems are pinning their electoral hopes on a freelance article misplaced in the Stupid/Fun section of the Maxim website, they are alot more fucked than you or I know.
I just threw the link out there as food for thought.
Like most conspiracy theories, it won't reach the mainstream.