9/11 photos

[Tomulator]

Some of the most vocal "truthers" are made up of family members of people who died in the attacks that day, as well as firemen, pilots, architects, engineers, police officers.

Yup. There is a video of an interview with four guys from NYFD, and they were all remarking about how they kept hearing methodical explosions, coming down the tower, in sets of four floors.

For the record, I don't think it's a conspiracy at all. There is too much evidence proving this wasn't Al Qaida.

Bin Laden flatout denied he was responsible.
Flight 93 in Pennsylvania speaks for itself. that plane didn't crash, it was shot down.
How about the plane that hit the 2nd tower having no windows account eyewitnesses?
How about the flash going off before the plane hit the building at all? Hmm.
The melted steel of the Towers, which have a melting point of 1100 degrees, yet jet fuel doesn't get near that hot.

Those are just a few questions I would like answered.


I can go on and on. I think the guy on Loose Change did an extraordinary job. He makes a lot of sense. Go ahead, call me crazy, but I put nothing past Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Bush. There were more involved yes, but those sick motherfuckers would think of something like this.

Why are some of you so scared to question your government? And why is your government so scared to simply just answer questions? One would think answering questions would put to bed any conspiracy theories, yet they confiscate surveillance tapes, erase cockpit voices on 93 and keep certain people out of ground zero.


Flame away.

Dude...listen to yourself. Really. Bin Laden has on MULTIPLE occasions taken responsibility for 9/11.
What are you smoking????????????

Does the words LIBERAL PARANOIA mean anything to you?

Geez...

[Rockindeano]

Some of the most vocal "truthers" are made up of family members of people who died in the attacks that day, as well as firemen, pilots, architects, engineers, police officers.

Yup. There is a video of an interview with four guys from NYFD, and they were all remarking about how they kept hearing methodical explosions, coming down the tower, in sets of four floors.

For the record, I don't think it's a conspiracy at all. There is too much evidence proving this wasn't Al Qaida.

Bin Laden flatout denied he was responsible.
Flight 93 in Pennsylvania speaks for itself. that plane didn't crash, it was shot down.
How about the plane that hit the 2nd tower having no windows account eyewitnesses?
How about the flash going off before the plane hit the building at all? Hmm.
The melted steel of the Towers, which have a melting point of 1100 degrees, yet jet fuel doesn't get near that hot.

Those are just a few questions I would like answered.


I can go on and on. I think the guy on Loose Change did an extraordinary job. He makes a lot of sense. Go ahead, call me crazy, but I put nothing past Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Bush. There were more involved yes, but those sick motherfuckers would think of something like this.

Why are some of you so scared to question your government? And why is your government so scared to simply just answer questions? One would think answering questions would put to bed any conspiracy theories, yet they confiscate surveillance tapes, erase cockpit voices on 93 and keep certain people out of ground zero.


Flame away.

Dude...listen to yourself. Really. Bin Laden has on MULTIPLE occasions taken responsibility for 9/11.
What are you smoking????????????

Does the words LIBERAL PARANOIA mean anything to you?

Geez...

Yep, I am a fucking dolt. Stupid and balless. I have no right to question anything that happened that simply doesn't add up. Go ahead and roll your eyes. It's not liberal paranoia. All I want is the Government to answer a few questions which they simply won't do.

As I leave you right wing sheep, let me ask you one last question. The Pentagon is the mostly watched building in the world. It has more CCTV's than any single place alive. Yet, mysteriously, they cannot show us the public, a single picture of a commercial airplane, a 757, flying into the fucking building. Nope, not one. Yet, the Sheraton across the street had tapes but ironically, the FBI confiscated them and told no one to talk about it. Now my simple question is why? Why can't the Government just show us a single photo off the surveillance tape proving that an airplane, and not a missile entered the Pentagon?

I will bow out of this argument because obviously I am a whacked out liberal with absolutely zero sense of intelligence. You folk just continue to believe what is shoveled to you. I can tell you one thing; if I had a loved one in either tower or the Pentagon, and there was any ounce of doubt about what really happened, I would want the answers..I would want the truth.

[RedWingFan]

Being a skeptic is all good, looking at the evidence and all that, but you people are bending "evidence" to suit your own agenda. Go jump down a cliff.

You also think JFK was shot by Oswald alone? If so, I have some beach front property in Kansas I'd like to sell you.

Never seen this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrpbGl7_1o

[Behshad]

Some of the most vocal "truthers" are made up of family members of people who died in the attacks that day, as well as firemen, pilots, architects, engineers, police officers.

Yup. There is a video of an interview with four guys from NYFD, and they were all remarking about how they kept hearing methodical explosions, coming down the tower, in sets of four floors.

For the record, I don't think it's a conspiracy at all. There is too much evidence proving this wasn't Al Qaida.

Bin Laden flatout denied he was responsible.
Flight 93 in Pennsylvania speaks for itself. that plane didn't crash, it was shot down.
How about the plane that hit the 2nd tower having no windows account eyewitnesses?
How about the flash going off before the plane hit the building at all? Hmm.
The melted steel of the Towers, which have a melting point of 1100 degrees, yet jet fuel doesn't get near that hot.

Those are just a few questions I would like answered.


I can go on and on. I think the guy on Loose Change did an extraordinary job. He makes a lot of sense. Go ahead, call me crazy, but I put nothing past Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Bush. There were more involved yes, but those sick motherfuckers would think of something like this.

Why are some of you so scared to question your government? And why is your government so scared to simply just answer questions? One would think answering questions would put to bed any conspiracy theories, yet they confiscate surveillance tapes, erase cockpit voices on 93 and keep certain people out of ground zero.


Flame away.

Dude...listen to yourself. Really. Bin Laden has on MULTIPLE occasions taken responsibility for 9/11.
What are you smoking????????????

Does the words LIBERAL PARANOIA mean anything to you?

Geez...

Yep, I am a fucking dolt. Stupid and balless. I have no right to question anything that happened that simply doesn't add up. Go ahead and roll your eyes. It's not liberal paranoia. All I want is the Government to answer a few questions which they simply won't do.

As I leave you right wing sheep, let me ask you one last question.

The Pentagon is the mostly watched building in the world. It has more CCTV's than any single place alive. Yet, mysteriously, they cannot show us the public, a single picture of a commercial airplane, a 757, flying into the fucking building. Nope, not one. Yet, the Sheraton across the street had tapes but ironically, the FBI confiscated them and told no one to talk about it. Now my simple question is why? Why can't the Government just show us a single photo off the surveillance tape proving that an airplane, and not a missile entered the Pentagon?

I will bow out of this argument because obviously I am a whacked out liberal with absolutely zero sense of intelligence. You folk just continue to believe what is shoveled to you. I can tell you one thing; if I had a loved one in either tower or the Pentagon, and there was any ounce of doubt about what really happened, I would want the answers..I would want the truth.

Thank You!

[Tomulator]

Some of the most vocal "truthers" are made up of family members of people who died in the attacks that day, as well as firemen, pilots, architects, engineers, police officers.

Yup. There is a video of an interview with four guys from NYFD, and they were all remarking about how they kept hearing methodical explosions, coming down the tower, in sets of four floors.

For the record, I don't think it's a conspiracy at all. There is too much evidence proving this wasn't Al Qaida.

Bin Laden flatout denied he was responsible.
Flight 93 in Pennsylvania speaks for itself. that plane didn't crash, it was shot down.
How about the plane that hit the 2nd tower having no windows account eyewitnesses?
How about the flash going off before the plane hit the building at all? Hmm.
The melted steel of the Towers, which have a melting point of 1100 degrees, yet jet fuel doesn't get near that hot.

Those are just a few questions I would like answered.


I can go on and on. I think the guy on Loose Change did an extraordinary job. He makes a lot of sense. Go ahead, call me crazy, but I put nothing past Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Bush. There were more involved yes, but those sick motherfuckers would think of something like this.

Why are some of you so scared to question your government? And why is your government so scared to simply just answer questions? One would think answering questions would put to bed any conspiracy theories, yet they confiscate surveillance tapes, erase cockpit voices on 93 and keep certain people out of ground zero.


Flame away.

Dude...listen to yourself. Really. Bin Laden has on MULTIPLE occasions taken responsibility for 9/11.
What are you smoking????????????

Does the words LIBERAL PARANOIA mean anything to you?

Geez...

Yep, I am a fucking dolt. Stupid and balless. I have no right to question anything that happened that simply doesn't add up. Go ahead and roll your eyes. It's not liberal paranoia. All I want is the Government to answer a few questions which they simply won't do.

As I leave you right wing sheep, let me ask you one last question.

The Pentagon is the mostly watched building in the world. It has more CCTV's than any single place alive. Yet, mysteriously, they cannot show us the public, a single picture of a commercial airplane, a 757, flying into the fucking building. Nope, not one. Yet, the Sheraton across the street had tapes but ironically, the FBI confiscated them and told no one to talk about it. Now my simple question is why? Why can't the Government just show us a single photo off the surveillance tape proving that an airplane, and not a missile entered the Pentagon?

I will bow out of this argument because obviously I am a whacked out liberal with absolutely zero sense of intelligence. You folk just continue to believe what is shoveled to you. I can tell you one thing; if I had a loved one in either tower or the Pentagon, and there was any ounce of doubt about what really happened, I would want the answers..I would want the truth.

Thank You!

You are BOTH wrong.

The "bigger" question in my mind is why do you seem to take pleasure in drumming up baseless conspiracy theories that call into question the REPUBLICAN leaders of our country? Would you feel the same if Obama had been POTUSA on 9/11?

I doubt it.

You both seem to be convinced that the govt. caused / knew / backed the whole "9/11" thing. You probably both don't think we ever put a man on the moon either. Am I correct?

I rest my case. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

[Behshad]

How are we wrong ? We just asked a question. YOU answer the question for us, since youre RIGHT ...
Its a very simple question,,, but since you dont have the answer, you say we are wrong???

Also, if you would read what I said in my original post in this thread, I said CLEARLY that I personally do NOT BELIVE THAT US GOVERNMENT WAS BEHIND 9/11.

All I am saying is WHY IS THERE NO FOOTAGE OF THE PLANE THAT HIT PENTAGON !???

[Behshad]

OK, your link didnt provide any VIDEO.... AND a SPLIT SECOND??? Why not show a 10 second footage?? Why is there so many videos both amateur and professional from the Towers, but nothing more than a split second video from Pentagon,,,,, very fishy if you ask me

[Behshad]

OK, your link didnt provide any VIDEO.... AND a SPLIT SECOND??? Why not show a 10 second footage?? Why is there so many videos both amateur and professional from the Towers, but nothing more than a split second video from Pentagon,,,,, very fishy if you ask me

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 6#12822486

VERY convincing! Stevew2 has taken better pictues with his Razr phone than these so called security cams. Funny also how They say these are the ONLY and LAST footage they have,,,, so I wonder what the other 200 other cameras rotating 24/7 captured....

[Behshad]

Where is Barbara Olsen?

Where is FactFinder's common sense?

[Behshad]

Where is Barbara Olsen?

Where is FactFinder's common sense?

Not sure what you mean. Barbara Olsen was on that plane, where did she go?

She died with the rest of the passengers. RIP.

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

[Behshad]

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

Where?

what you want exact google earth location?? approximately above the area where they crashed,,,,

[Tomulator]

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

Where?

what you want exact google earth location?? approximately above the area where they crashed,,,,

So the Gov shot it down, then for effect shot another missle into the Pentagon? Where is the debris from the shoot down over DC, did it all fall conviently into the Potomac?


Facepalm

Amen.

[Behshad]

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

Where?

what you want exact google earth location?? approximately above the area where they crashed,,,,

So the Gov shot it down, then for effect shot another missle into the Pentagon? Where is the debris from the shoot down over DC, did it all fall conviently into the Potomac?


Facepalm

Here's what happened,,they shot the plane, it was damaged but not into pieces, so it went down and steered into hitting the Pentagon,,,,, the reasons there is NO actual footage of the plane hitting the building is cause they wanna cover up the plane on fire before hitting the building.

Facepalm !

[Rockindeano]

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

Where?

what you want exact google earth location?? approximately above the area where they crashed,,,,

So the Gov shot it down, then for effect shot another missle into the Pentagon? Where is the debris from the shoot down over DC, did it all fall conviently into the Potomac?


Facepalm

No, forget your question and answer mine first, because after all, I asked first. If you want to know where the debris is over DC, I want to know where the debris is at in the Pentagon. That's a better question.

[Rockindeano]

Fact Finder, you're a piece of shit. You are so transparent in your blind loyalty to a republican administration. I can guarantee you had this happened on Obama's watch, you would be saying, "The Won had the plane shot down" and cite the Washington Times, or the WSJ, NY Post or some other right winged rag.

Pathetic.

[Ehwmatt]

lol, you guys are still blabbering on about this shit? jesus christ on a fuckin triscuit

[Saint John]

Where is Barbara Olsen?

Where is FactFinder's common sense?

Not sure what you mean. Barbara Olsen was on that plane, where did she go?

She died with the rest of the passengers. RIP.

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

The debris field of a plane that was "shot down" would be many, many miles. The debris field from the plane in PA was exactly the size that top scientists said it should be. Besides, how the fuck do you shoot down a plane in the morning without anyone seeing it??? You're getting as fucking goofy as Dean with his window-less plane! Who shot these planes down ... Dick Dastardly and Muttley???

[Behshad]

Where is Barbara Olsen?

Where is FactFinder's common sense?

Not sure what you mean. Barbara Olsen was on that plane, where did she go?

She died with the rest of the passengers. RIP.

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

The debris field of a plane that was "shot down" would be many, many miles. The debris field from the plane in PA was exactly the size that top scientists said it should be. Besides, how the fuck do you shoot down a plane in the morning without anyone seeing it??? You're getting as fucking goofy as Dean with his window-less plane! Who shot these planes down ... Dick Dastardly and Muttley???

Youre talkin out of your ass buddy,, I have seen planes get shot down above my head,,, when it doesnt explode, there isnt that much notieable debris.....

And who else would shoot it down than US Airforce? And people SAW it,,, but when they talk about it, you refer to it as consipracy theories

[Saint John]

You do realize that airports have fucking radar screens, right???? Why is it that no one saw a missile on their radar screen (from any airport!), or an Air Force jet, but they did see the route of the plane just as we've been told. I guess all of the air traffic controllers were in on it! You better get your fucking ass back in The Mystery Machine and come up with something better than that.

[Rockindeano]

The debris field of a plane that was "shot down" would be many, many miles.

Gee, thanks Obee One Konobi. That's what we are saying. Let's regroup- there was no Boeing 757 engine, tail, fuselage nor nose piece found at the Pentagon. Perhaps you're right after all- the plane that ultimately "landed" at the pentagon was shot down as far back as 8 miles away? Just using your words. I still find it impossible that the fucking FBI couldn't find a single 6 ton engine or any of it's components at the Pentagon. LOL, if this cover up was done any more poorly it would be funny. You Cons still ignore the fact the FBI said the plane bounced off the grass, yet it looked it was ready for a Yankee Red Sox game. It was perfectly manicured and untouched. And Fact Finder, your article saying the FBI released a pic of a plane at the Pentagon was pure garbage. No one can see o 150 foot plane in any of the photographs.

The debris field from the plane in PA was exactly the size that top scientists said it should be.

It sure was...if it was shot down by a fighter jet. A plane that is overtaken by passengers and dives into the ground at a 70 degree angle doesn't spread for miles and miles. That crash is obviously a shoot down. There is no question about that. The Coroner who came up to the "scene" err, a 30 foot hole said he stopped being a coroner after 10 minutes, because there wasn't a drop of blood anywhere. To this day, not one drop of blood has been found from that plane. No bodies found. This one is a certainty- but there may be other twists to it.

You're getting as fucking goofy as Dean with his window-less plane!

Gee, thanks.

Who shot these planes down ...

The US Government did.

[Rockindeano]

I want to know where the debris is at in the Pentagon.

Part of Plane Engine at Pentagon

Um, that rotor, that engine is not from a Boeing 757. Rolls Royce is the manufacturer. They said without hesitation, that is definitely not a 757 engine. That is fact.

[parfait]

Where is Barbara Olsen?

Where is FactFinder's common sense?

Not sure what you mean. Barbara Olsen was on that plane, where did she go?

She died with the rest of the passengers. RIP.

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

The debris field of a plane that was "shot down" would be many, many miles. The debris field from the plane in PA was exactly the size that top scientists said it should be. Besides, how the fuck do you shoot down a plane in the morning without anyone seeing it??? You're getting as fucking goofy as Dean with his window-less plane! Who shot these planes down ... Dick Dastardly and Muttley???

Youre talkin out of your ass buddy,, I have seen planes get shot down above my head,,, when it doesnt explode, there isnt that much notieable debris.....

And who else would shoot it down than US Airforce? And people SAW it,,, but when they talk about it, you refer to it as consipracy theories

You're usually a chill guy, man. But seriously, stop this stupid conspiracy shit.Conspiracy theorists talking about common sense is as much of a oxymoron as Rosie O'Donnel talking about healthy eating.

And it's fine to question stuff and be skeptical, but I don't question evolution or The Holocaust, and you know why?


Because all the god damn evidence and studies proves that it exists! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

[Tito]

I have seen planes get shot down above my head,,,

I knew you were a terrorist. You seen this because you shot the plane down.

[Rockindeano]

So let me get this straight.

Let's assume the pics that FF just posted, are from the plane that allegedly hit the Pentagon. Now, let's assume that really did happen. It crashed, end of story. There is an engine part, pieces of fuselage, etc. If the plane in PA was also crashed, how come none of what FF just posted was found there? This has now turned into a Dan v FF argument. You can't have it both ways boys. One of you is wrong, or both, but for sake of argument, this proves that one or the other was shot down and DID NOT CRASH.

Dissect that please.

[Rockindeano]

I have seen planes get shot down above my head,,,

I knew you were a terrorist. You seen this because you shot the plane down.

Can it Blockhead. We're talking something serious here. No jokes about this shit.

[Behshad]

Where is Barbara Olsen?

Where is FactFinder's common sense?

Not sure what you mean. Barbara Olsen was on that plane, where did she go?

She died with the rest of the passengers. RIP.

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

The debris field of a plane that was "shot down" would be many, many miles. The debris field from the plane in PA was exactly the size that top scientists said it should be. Besides, how the fuck do you shoot down a plane in the morning without anyone seeing it??? You're getting as fucking goofy as Dean with his window-less plane! Who shot these planes down ... Dick Dastardly and Muttley???

Youre talkin out of your ass buddy,, I have seen planes get shot down above my head,,, when it doesnt explode, there isnt that much notieable debris.....

And who else would shoot it down than US Airforce? And people SAW it,,, but when they talk about it, you refer to it as consipracy theories

You're usually a chill guy, man. But seriously, stop this stupid conspiracy shit.Conspiracy theorists talking about common sense is as much of a oxymoron as Rosie O'Donnel talking about healthy eating.

And it's fine to question stuff and be skeptical, but I don't question evolution or The Holocaust, and you know why?


Because all the god damn evidence and studies proves that it exists! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

Show me the GOD DAMN EVIDENCE of the plane hitting the Pentagon.
A huge difference between wanting QUESTIONS ANSWERED and just denying the truth and label it consipracy theories...

[Behshad]

So let me get this straight.

Let's assume the pics that FF just posted, are from the plane that allegedly hit the Pentagon. Now, let's assume that really did happen. It crashed, end of story. There is an engine part, pieces of fuselage, etc. If the plane in PA was also crashed, how come none of what FF just posted was found there? This has now turned into a Dan v FF argument. You can't have it both ways boys. One of you is wrong, or both, but for sake of argument, this proves that one or the other was shot down and DID NOT CRASH.

Dissect that please.

OWNED!!!

[Behshad]

I have seen planes get shot down above my head,,,

I knew you were a terrorist. You seen this because you shot the plane down.

[parfait]

Where is Barbara Olsen?

Where is FactFinder's common sense?

Not sure what you mean. Barbara Olsen was on that plane, where did she go?

She died with the rest of the passengers. RIP.

That plane was shot down just like the plane in PA.

The debris field of a plane that was "shot down" would be many, many miles. The debris field from the plane in PA was exactly the size that top scientists said it should be. Besides, how the fuck do you shoot down a plane in the morning without anyone seeing it??? You're getting as fucking goofy as Dean with his window-less plane! Who shot these planes down ... Dick Dastardly and Muttley???

Youre talkin out of your ass buddy,, I have seen planes get shot down above my head,,, when it doesnt explode, there isnt that much notieable debris.....

And who else would shoot it down than US Airforce? And people SAW it,,, but when they talk about it, you refer to it as consipracy theories

You're usually a chill guy, man. But seriously, stop this stupid conspiracy shit.Conspiracy theorists talking about common sense is as much of a oxymoron as Rosie O'Donnel talking about healthy eating.

And it's fine to question stuff and be skeptical, but I don't question evolution or The Holocaust, and you know why?


Because all the god damn evidence and studies proves that it exists! Stupid! Stupid! Stupid!

Show me the GOD DAMN EVIDENCE of the plane hitting the Pentagon.
A huge difference between wanting QUESTIONS ANSWERED and just denying the truth and label it consipracy theories...

Here's the video:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12818225/

If that's not enough, here's a study (that REAL scientists wrote, not those pseudo scientist morons that's behind this conspiracy): http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html?page=6

I want you to watch the two links, and then come tell me if you still believe that fantasy shit. Cause if you do, well,; then all hope is lost.

[Behshad]

parfait,
your daddy FF already shared that video,, there is no actual footage that shows the impact, some poor quality 2fps video that shows two frames and doesnt give a clear view of what really happend,,,,,, and yes all hope is lost when people buy all the bullshit the governtment is handfeeding them ....