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911 Was it Foreign or Domestic Terrorists?

Foreign Muslim Terrorist
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76%
U.S. Government
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Total votes : 29

Postby Behshad » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:57 am

lights1961 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
What is becoming of this once great and proud nation? Can we really be producing people who actually believe that we "had 9/11 coming" to us? As if there is any way that atrocious day can be justified on any level?!!!

:oops: :evil:


Good and valid point Tom.

On a side note-I just wish some folks would have bothered reading the security briefings. Oh well. I love how Lynn Cheney was talking last night before introducing her father Dick, that incompetence led to the Christmas day bomber..yet conveniently forgot the 9/11 happened on her daddy's watch...Not to set the facts straight or anything, bit come on already. Do theses people ever take responsibility for anything? Seriously- 9/11 on GOP watch, that's ok...Christmas Day Bomber nothing happens, terrible incompetence. it baffles me. Am i missing something? I am trying to figure out how the fuckin' Democrats could let 9/11 happen. Those bastards!


I will say that the training for all this started about 1993 2001 after the first Trade Center bombing thats when the planning started so DEANO... EVERYONE DROPPED the ball...no one talked to each other CIA FBI IN BOTH CLINTON AND BUSH-- thats just me... USS COLE all the embassy bombings around the world were a test to see how much we could tolerate... and WE TOLERATED A LOT... the WORST finally came to US and then we said the hell with it and our still fighting today... Clinton could have delayed things if he treated national security with more reverence... but he didnt... and Bush just took the lead from Clinton until that faithul day... JUST SAYING...


it doesnt matter how much communication and training wouldve taken place,,, it wouldve happened in some shape or form,,,,
Its like trying to prevent a theft at a 7/11....no matter what you do and how many security cameras you set up and bulletproof glass you bring in,, there will always be some kind of stealing or robbery ,,,
Even if as you suggest, Clinton wouldve DELAYED things, that doesnt mean it wouldve made things any better,,, I dont see how a terrorist attack from 9/11/01 wouldve been any less harmful had it taken place , lets say 05/20/05 ......
Its all about world policies,,, The same way that you say we tolerated alot,,, they see it at their aspect,,,, they think they tolerated a lot and enough is enough....Its just that the other side is more used to daily explosions and killings , which makes us more vulnerable....And they know exactly what theyre doing,,, they know that the best way to get to us, is little thing like the Amsterdam/Detroit thing around xmas,,, putting fear into us,,,
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Postby lights1961 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:05 am

Behshad wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
What is becoming of this once great and proud nation? Can we really be producing people who actually believe that we "had 9/11 coming" to us? As if there is any way that atrocious day can be justified on any level?!!!

:oops: :evil:


Good and valid point Tom.

On a side note-I just wish some folks would have bothered reading the security briefings. Oh well. I love how Lynn Cheney was talking last night before introducing her father Dick, that incompetence led to the Christmas day bomber..yet conveniently forgot the 9/11 happened on her daddy's watch...Not to set the facts straight or anything, bit come on already. Do theses people ever take responsibility for anything? Seriously- 9/11 on GOP watch, that's ok...Christmas Day Bomber nothing happens, terrible incompetence. it baffles me. Am i missing something? I am trying to figure out how the fuckin' Democrats could let 9/11 happen. Those bastards!


I will say that the training for all this started about 1993 2001 after the first Trade Center bombing thats when the planning started so DEANO... EVERYONE DROPPED the ball...no one talked to each other CIA FBI IN BOTH CLINTON AND BUSH-- thats just me... USS COLE all the embassy bombings around the world were a test to see how much we could tolerate... and WE TOLERATED A LOT... the WORST finally came to US and then we said the hell with it and our still fighting today... Clinton could have delayed things if he treated national security with more reverence... but he didnt... and Bush just took the lead from Clinton until that faithul day... JUST SAYING...


it doesnt matter how much communication and training wouldve taken place,,, it wouldve happened in some shape or form,,,,
Its like trying to prevent a theft at a 7/11....no matter what you do and how many security cameras you set up and bulletproof glass you bring in,, there will always be some kind of stealing or robbery ,,,
Even if as you suggest, Clinton wouldve DELAYED things, that doesnt mean it wouldve made things any better,,, I dont see how a terrorist attack from 9/11/01 wouldve been any less harmful had it taken place , lets say 05/20/05 ......
Its all about world policies,,, The same way that you say we tolerated alot,,, they see it at their aspect,,,, they think they tolerated a lot and enough is enough....Its just that the other side is more used to daily explosions and killings , which makes us more vulnerable....And they know exactly what theyre doing,,, they know that the best way to get to us, is little thing like the Amsterdam/Detroit thing around xmas,,, putting fear into us,,,


hats off to you dude... great post.


we all might have saved the world today at MR... ;-) :wink:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:19 am

lights1961 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
What is becoming of this once great and proud nation? Can we really be producing people who actually believe that we "had 9/11 coming" to us? As if there is any way that atrocious day can be justified on any level?!!!

:oops: :evil:


Good and valid point Tom.

On a side note-I just wish some folks would have bothered reading the security briefings. Oh well. I love how Lynn Cheney was talking last night before introducing her father Dick, that incompetence led to the Christmas day bomber..yet conveniently forgot the 9/11 happened on her daddy's watch...Not to set the facts straight or anything, bit come on already. Do theses people ever take responsibility for anything? Seriously- 9/11 on GOP watch, that's ok...Christmas Day Bomber nothing happens, terrible incompetence. it baffles me. Am i missing something? I am trying to figure out how the fuckin' Democrats could let 9/11 happen. Those bastards!


I will say that the training for all this started about 1993 2001 after the first Trade Center bombing thats when the planning started so DEANO... EVERYONE DROPPED the ball...no one talked to each other CIA FBI IN BOTH CLINTON AND BUSH-- thats just me... USS COLE all the embassy bombings around the world were a test to see how much we could tolerate... and WE TOLERATED A LOT... the WORST finally came to US and then we said the hell with it and our still fighting today... Clinton could have delayed things if he treated national security with more reverence... but he didnt... and Bush just took the lead from Clinton until that faithul day... JUST SAYING...


Goddammit. Always a fuckin excuse. The Clinton people warned the Bushies of a possible terrorist attack. The security briefings were not read daily. Did shit happen on Bubba's watch? Absolutely. However, to imply Clinton shares much of the blame for 9/11 is retarded, Just man up guys. it happened on a GOP watch. How you can spin this amazing. That's the way the GOP does it. Blame everyone else and don't take responsibility. he history books, no matter which edition will have printed that a republican president was occupying the White House when the biggest attack on US soil was waged. And yet you fuckers want to blame the Democrats for it. You have been playing that game with the economy ever since the beginning...when a recession hit while a republican was in office, blame it on the previous democratic administration, and then when the economy was surging during a Democrat, take credit for it. Amazing. Now you assholes want to suggest 9/11 bears Clinton's name. Good God. I hate bitching at you Rick because you're such a nice fucking guy. My seething anger right now is directed to that motherfucker FF. :evil: I know he is sitting there in Cincinnati laughing his ass off right now.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:21 am

Rockindeano wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
What is becoming of this once great and proud nation? Can we really be producing people who actually believe that we "had 9/11 coming" to us? As if there is any way that atrocious day can be justified on any level?!!!

:oops: :evil:


Good and valid point Tom.

On a side note-I just wish some folks would have bothered reading the security briefings. Oh well. I love how Lynn Cheney was talking last night before introducing her father Dick, that incompetence led to the Christmas day bomber..yet conveniently forgot the 9/11 happened on her daddy's watch...Not to set the facts straight or anything, bit come on already. Do theses people ever take responsibility for anything? Seriously- 9/11 on GOP watch, that's ok...Christmas Day Bomber nothing happens, terrible incompetence. it baffles me. Am i missing something? I am trying to figure out how the fuckin' Democrats could let 9/11 happen. Those bastards!


I will say that the training for all this started about 1993 2001 after the first Trade Center bombing thats when the planning started so DEANO... EVERYONE DROPPED the ball...no one talked to each other CIA FBI IN BOTH CLINTON AND BUSH-- thats just me... USS COLE all the embassy bombings around the world were a test to see how much we could tolerate... and WE TOLERATED A LOT... the WORST finally came to US and then we said the hell with it and our still fighting today... Clinton could have delayed things if he treated national security with more reverence... but he didnt... and Bush just took the lead from Clinton until that faithul day... JUST SAYING...


Goddammit. Always a fuckin excuse. The Clinton people TOLD the Bushies, "look, this may happen(airplanes being used as weapons). The security briefings were not read daily. Did shit happen on Bubba's watch? Absolutely. However, to imply Clinton shares much of the blame for 9/11 is retarded, Just man up guys. it happened on a GOP watch. How you can spin this amazing. That's the way the GOP does it. Blame everyone else and don't take responsibility. he history books, no matter which edition will have printed that a republican president was occupying the White House when the biggest attack on US soil was waged. And yet you fuckers want to blame the Democrats for it. You have been playing that game with the economy ever since the beginning...when a recession hit while a republican was in office, blame it on the previous democratic administration, and then when the economy was surging during a Democrat, take credit for it. Amazing. Now you assholes want to suggest 9/11 bears Clinton's name. Good God. I hate bitching at you rick because you're such a nice fucking guy. My seething anger right now is directed to that motherfucker FF. :evil: I know he is sitting there in Cincinnati laughing his ass off right now.


Dan is a mere hour and 15 away from my door, I hope you're still pissed later on, because you'll be even more pissed after our drunk asses get done with you :evil:
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Postby Behshad » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:22 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
What is becoming of this once great and proud nation? Can we really be producing people who actually believe that we "had 9/11 coming" to us? As if there is any way that atrocious day can be justified on any level?!!!

:oops: :evil:


Good and valid point Tom.

On a side note-I just wish some folks would have bothered reading the security briefings. Oh well. I love how Lynn Cheney was talking last night before introducing her father Dick, that incompetence led to the Christmas day bomber..yet conveniently forgot the 9/11 happened on her daddy's watch...Not to set the facts straight or anything, bit come on already. Do theses people ever take responsibility for anything? Seriously- 9/11 on GOP watch, that's ok...Christmas Day Bomber nothing happens, terrible incompetence. it baffles me. Am i missing something? I am trying to figure out how the fuckin' Democrats could let 9/11 happen. Those bastards!


I will say that the training for all this started about 1993 2001 after the first Trade Center bombing thats when the planning started so DEANO... EVERYONE DROPPED the ball...no one talked to each other CIA FBI IN BOTH CLINTON AND BUSH-- thats just me... USS COLE all the embassy bombings around the world were a test to see how much we could tolerate... and WE TOLERATED A LOT... the WORST finally came to US and then we said the hell with it and our still fighting today... Clinton could have delayed things if he treated national security with more reverence... but he didnt... and Bush just took the lead from Clinton until that faithul day... JUST SAYING...


Goddammit. Always a fuckin excuse. The Clinton people TOLD the Bushies, "look, this may happen(airplanes being used as weapons). The security briefings were not read daily. Did shit happen on Bubba's watch? Absolutely. However, to imply Clinton shares much of the blame for 9/11 is retarded, Just man up guys. it happened on a GOP watch. How you can spin this amazing. That's the way the GOP does it. Blame everyone else and don't take responsibility. he history books, no matter which edition will have printed that a republican president was occupying the White House when the biggest attack on US soil was waged. And yet you fuckers want to blame the Democrats for it. You have been playing that game with the economy ever since the beginning...when a recession hit while a republican was in office, blame it on the previous democratic administration, and then when the economy was surging during a Democrat, take credit for it. Amazing. Now you assholes want to suggest 9/11 bears Clinton's name. Good God. I hate bitching at you rick because you're such a nice fucking guy. My seething anger right now is directed to that motherfucker FF. :evil: I know he is sitting there in Cincinnati laughing his ass off right now.


Dan is a mere hour and 15 away from my door, I hope you're still pissed later on, because you'll be even more pissed after our drunk asses get done with you :evil:


What are you gonna do? Pass out on him!? :lol: Sorry couldnt resist ,bro :)
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:23 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
What is becoming of this once great and proud nation? Can we really be producing people who actually believe that we "had 9/11 coming" to us? As if there is any way that atrocious day can be justified on any level?!!!

:oops: :evil:


Good and valid point Tom.

On a side note-I just wish some folks would have bothered reading the security briefings. Oh well. I love how Lynn Cheney was talking last night before introducing her father Dick, that incompetence led to the Christmas day bomber..yet conveniently forgot the 9/11 happened on her daddy's watch...Not to set the facts straight or anything, bit come on already. Do theses people ever take responsibility for anything? Seriously- 9/11 on GOP watch, that's ok...Christmas Day Bomber nothing happens, terrible incompetence. it baffles me. Am i missing something? I am trying to figure out how the fuckin' Democrats could let 9/11 happen. Those bastards!


I will say that the training for all this started about 1993 2001 after the first Trade Center bombing thats when the planning started so DEANO... EVERYONE DROPPED the ball...no one talked to each other CIA FBI IN BOTH CLINTON AND BUSH-- thats just me... USS COLE all the embassy bombings around the world were a test to see how much we could tolerate... and WE TOLERATED A LOT... the WORST finally came to US and then we said the hell with it and our still fighting today... Clinton could have delayed things if he treated national security with more reverence... but he didnt... and Bush just took the lead from Clinton until that faithul day... JUST SAYING...


Goddammit. Always a fuckin excuse. The Clinton people TOLD the Bushies, "look, this may happen(airplanes being used as weapons). The security briefings were not read daily. Did shit happen on Bubba's watch? Absolutely. However, to imply Clinton shares much of the blame for 9/11 is retarded, Just man up guys. it happened on a GOP watch. How you can spin this amazing. That's the way the GOP does it. Blame everyone else and don't take responsibility. he history books, no matter which edition will have printed that a republican president was occupying the White House when the biggest attack on US soil was waged. And yet you fuckers want to blame the Democrats for it. You have been playing that game with the economy ever since the beginning...when a recession hit while a republican was in office, blame it on the previous democratic administration, and then when the economy was surging during a Democrat, take credit for it. Amazing. Now you assholes want to suggest 9/11 bears Clinton's name. Good God. I hate bitching at you rick because you're such a nice fucking guy. My seething anger right now is directed to that motherfucker FF. :evil: I know he is sitting there in Cincinnati laughing his ass off right now.


Dan is a mere hour and 15 away from my door, I hope you're still pissed later on, because you'll be even more pissed after our drunk asses get done with you :evil:


I could drink both of you Queens under the table. Ask Dan for an honest answer to that question. And you, you fuckin little whippersnapper; I could teach you a few techniques on drinking. :twisted:
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Postby lights1961 » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:29 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
lights1961 wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
What is becoming of this once great and proud nation? Can we really be producing people who actually believe that we "had 9/11 coming" to us? As if there is any way that atrocious day can be justified on any level?!!!

:oops: :evil:


Good and valid point Tom.

On a side note-I just wish some folks would have bothered reading the security briefings. Oh well. I love how Lynn Cheney was talking last night before introducing her father Dick, that incompetence led to the Christmas day bomber..yet conveniently forgot the 9/11 happened on her daddy's watch...Not to set the facts straight or anything, bit come on already. Do theses people ever take responsibility for anything? Seriously- 9/11 on GOP watch, that's ok...Christmas Day Bomber nothing happens, terrible incompetence. it baffles me. Am i missing something? I am trying to figure out how the fuckin' Democrats could let 9/11 happen. Those bastards!


I will say that the training for all this started about 1993 2001 after the first Trade Center bombing thats when the planning started so DEANO... EVERYONE DROPPED the ball...no one talked to each other CIA FBI IN BOTH CLINTON AND BUSH-- thats just me... USS COLE all the embassy bombings around the world were a test to see how much we could tolerate... and WE TOLERATED A LOT... the WORST finally came to US and then we said the hell with it and our still fighting today... Clinton could have delayed things if he treated national security with more reverence... but he didnt... and Bush just took the lead from Clinton until that faithul day... JUST SAYING...


Goddammit. Always a fuckin excuse. The Clinton people TOLD the Bushies, "look, this may happen(airplanes being used as weapons). The security briefings were not read daily. Did shit happen on Bubba's watch? Absolutely. However, to imply Clinton shares much of the blame for 9/11 is retarded, Just man up guys. it happened on a GOP watch. How you can spin this amazing. That's the way the GOP does it. Blame everyone else and don't take responsibility. he history books, no matter which edition will have printed that a republican president was occupying the White House when the biggest attack on US soil was waged. And yet you fuckers want to blame the Democrats for it. You have been playing that game with the economy ever since the beginning...when a recession hit while a republican was in office, blame it on the previous democratic administration, and then when the economy was surging during a Democrat, take credit for it. Amazing. Now you assholes want to suggest 9/11 bears Clinton's name. Good God. I hate bitching at you rick because you're such a nice fucking guy. My seething anger right now is directed to that motherfucker FF. :evil: I know he is sitting there in Cincinnati laughing his ass off right now.


Dan is a mere hour and 15 away from my door, I hope you're still pissed later on, because you'll be even more pissed after our drunk asses get done with you :evil:


I could drink both of you Queens under the table. Ask Dan for an honest answer to that question. And you, you fuckin little whippersnapper; I could teach you a few techniques on drinking. :twisted:


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