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Postby portland » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:22 pm

Jana wrote:
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Rip Rokken wrote:Just another dumb rumor. AP's coming back in May to start working with the band on the new album.


Seems this keeps getting pushed back or your source (the source) is wrong. :wink:

I had originally heard March.


Excuse me, it's April. :wink:


Chubby seems to be right. I haven't kept up lately and it looks like that's the word now. My point though was really about the new album -- he's not going anywhere. :)


Goin' nowhere. His voice is sounding fantastic. :wink: :lol:





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Postby steveo777 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:23 pm

Jana wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
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Rip Rokken wrote:Just another dumb rumor. AP's coming back in May to start working with the band on the new album.


Seems this keeps getting pushed back or your source (the source) is wrong. :wink:

I had originally heard March.


Excuse me, it's April. :wink:


Chubby seems to be right. I haven't kept up lately and it looks like that's the word now. My point though was really about the new album -- he's not going anywhere. :)


Goin' nowhere. His voice is sounding fantastic. :wink: :lol:


Actually, doing these little gigs lately has probably been good for him. Vocals are a use it or lose it thing, as long as they are not abused. He's gonna come out rockin for the new album. Can't wait! :D
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Postby Jana » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:24 pm

portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Just another dumb rumor. AP's coming back in May to start working with the band on the new album.


Seems this keeps getting pushed back or your source (the source) is wrong. :wink:

I had originally heard March.


Excuse me, it's April. :wink:


Chubby seems to be right. I haven't kept up lately and it looks like that's the word now. My point though was really about the new album -- he's not going anywhere. :)


Goin' nowhere. His voice is sounding fantastic. :wink: :lol:





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Glad you've seen the light. :wink: :lol:
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Postby portland » Sun Feb 21, 2010 12:25 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Just another dumb rumor. AP's coming back in May to start working with the band on the new album.


Seems this keeps getting pushed back or your source (the source) is wrong. :wink:

I had originally heard March.


Excuse me, it's April. :wink:


Chubby seems to be right. I haven't kept up lately and it looks like that's the word now. My point though was really about the new album -- he's not going anywhere. :)


Goin' nowhere. His voice is sounding fantastic. :wink: :lol:


Actually, doing these little gigs lately has probably been good for him. Vocals are a use it or lose it thing, as long as they are not abused. He's gonna come out rockin for the new album. Can't wait! :D







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Postby diezynueve69 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:24 pm

Jana wrote:
steveo777 wrote:He sounds like he still has plenty of voice left

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueNXv89Jn4o

I ripped this off over at AP's site. :wink: Credit to Seven. :D

Beautiful.

Hey, Jana...thought Kings of Leon's Use Somebody might interest you. :wink:
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Postby portland » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:27 pm

Jana wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:Just another dumb rumor. AP's coming back in May to start working with the band on the new album.


Seems this keeps getting pushed back or your source (the source) is wrong. :wink:

I had originally heard March.


Excuse me, it's April. :wink:


Chubby seems to be right. I haven't kept up lately and it looks like that's the word now. My point though was really about the new album -- he's not going anywhere. :)


Goin' nowhere. His voice is sounding fantastic. :wink: :lol:








YES yaadda yaada yadda!!! :lol:


Glad you've seen the light. :wink: :lol:







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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Feb 21, 2010 1:34 pm

his voice is obviously as good as its ever been.......which is great if you finally got that dream gig at the Mellow Mushrooom tonight.
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Postby SherriBerry » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:06 pm

portland wrote:
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ebake02 wrote:I wonder if this is another case of a shitty media outlet taking advantage of the fact that English isn't AP's native language and translating what he says to suit their agenda. After all, Rolling Stone did it didn't they?



Probably. I'd say don't listen to any of the shit you hear out there. There is a new album coming out and there is a big world tour planned for 2011. Those are not things you plan for when it is known that a member is on the way out. I understand there are a handful of dissenters out there over a few different forums who would like nothing better than for this news to be true, but they are a major minority. Even if they got their wish, then what? It's not like just anyone can carry the Journey catalog though a world tour. Some people need a reality check. :wink:




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Postby squirt1 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:10 pm

Who cares ? Journey is so far removed from the HUGE band they were it is time to realize Perry was the VOICE !!!! and a huge part of the songwriting . Sappy now .
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Postby Rick » Sun Feb 21, 2010 4:49 pm

ScarabGator wrote:his voice is obviously as good as its ever been.......which is great if you finally got that dream gig at the Mellow Mushrooom tonight.


You're starting to cave. You'll be an Arneliot before it's all over. :lol: j/k But I think the dude can sing circles around anyone else vying for the job. And I don't include JSS in this, because he isn't vying for the job. I sure would have loved to have seen what he would have been like on a new Journey record. But I'm happy with what is. And Jeff is working his ass off too, making great music, so all is well with the world. The only thing that could make me happier, is if Perry could rejoin for one more hurrah! Now wouldn't that be nice?
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Postby ScarabGator » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:20 pm

Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:his voice is obviously as good as its ever been.......which is great if you finally got that dream gig at the Mellow Mushrooom tonight.


You're starting to cave. You'll be an Arneliot before it's all over. :lol: j/k But I think the dude can sing circles around anyone else vying for the job. And I don't include JSS in this, because he isn't vying for the job. I sure would have loved to have seen what he would have been like on a new Journey record. But I'm happy with what is. And Jeff is working his ass off too, making great music, so all is well with the world. The only thing that could make me happier, is if Perry could rejoin for one more hurrah! Now wouldn't that be nice?


I'd squirt in my shorts if that happened!
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Postby Jana » Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:31 pm

squirt1 wrote:Who cares ? Journey is so far removed from the HUGE band they were it is time to realize Perry was the VOICE !!!! and a huge part of the songwriting . Sappy now .


After listening to "sappy" FTLOSM with its thousand co-writers, :lol: I would say Jon Cain and Neal were a HUGE part of the songwriting, too.

No, it's not "time to realize Perry was the voice," because we all already know that. And they're not the huge band they were? So what. They're still a successful band and I love a lot of the music they've made after Perry (some of my all-time favorite Journey songs), so they're still creative. Tears for Fears isn't huge like the 80s and their CD this decade didn't even make Gold, but I love it. Should I not b/c it isn't a multiplatinum album like their heyday?
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Postby ScarabGator » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:25 am

Jana wrote:
squirt1 wrote:Who cares ? Journey is so far removed from the HUGE band they were it is time to realize Perry was the VOICE !!!! and a huge part of the songwriting . Sappy now .


After listening to "sappy" FTLOSM with its thousand co-writers, :lol: I would say Jon Cain and Neal were a HUGE part of the songwriting, too.

No, it's not "time to realize Perry was the voice," because we all already know that. And they're not the huge band they were? So what. They're still a successful band and I love a lot of the music they've made after Perry (some of my all-time favorite Journey songs), so they're still creative. Tears for Fears isn't huge like the 80s and their CD this decade didn't even make Gold, but I love it. Should I not b/c it isn't a multiplatinum album like their heyday?


arent Tears for Fears the original pair?
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Postby portland » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:27 am

Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:his voice is obviously as good as its ever been.......which is great if you finally got that dream gig at the Mellow Mushrooom tonight.


You're starting to cave. You'll be an Arneliot before it's all over. :lol: j/k But I think the dude can sing circles around anyone else vying for the job. And I don't include JSS in this, because he isn't vying for the job. I sure would have loved to have seen what he would have been like on a new Journey record. But I'm happy with what is. And Jeff is working his ass off too, making great music, so all is well with the world. The only thing that could make me happier, is if Perry could rejoin for one more hurrah! Now wouldn't that be nice?





Yes it would...... :wink:
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:51 am

ScarabGator wrote:
Jana wrote:
squirt1 wrote:Who cares ? Journey is so far removed from the HUGE band they were it is time to realize Perry was the VOICE !!!! and a huge part of the songwriting . Sappy now .


After listening to "sappy" FTLOSM with its thousand co-writers, :lol: I would say Jon Cain and Neal were a HUGE part of the songwriting, too.

No, it's not "time to realize Perry was the voice," because we all already know that. And they're not the huge band they were? So what. They're still a successful band and I love a lot of the music they've made after Perry (some of my all-time favorite Journey songs), so they're still creative. Tears for Fears isn't huge like the 80s and their CD this decade didn't even make Gold, but I love it. Should I not b/c it isn't a multiplatinum album like their heyday?


arent Tears for Fears the original pair?


Actually, in the 90s, no, and I followed Roland with his new regrouping under the TFF moniker and loved both albums, even though one, Elemental, only went Gold and the other, RTKOS, was a poor seller (somewhat like a concept album). In 2004 they did reunite and still didn't sell huge on their new CD.

And I will always repeat, I love Arrival more than TBF. Arrival didn't even make Gold and didn't have Perry, but it's better to me as far as an album I still go to listening..
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Postby Angel » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:26 am

ScarabGator wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:his voice is obviously as good as its ever been.......which is great if you finally got that dream gig at the Mellow Mushrooom tonight.


You're starting to cave. You'll be an Arneliot before it's all over. :lol: j/k But I think the dude can sing circles around anyone else vying for the job. And I don't include JSS in this, because he isn't vying for the job. I sure would have loved to have seen what he would have been like on a new Journey record. But I'm happy with what is. And Jeff is working his ass off too, making great music, so all is well with the world. The only thing that could make me happier, is if Perry could rejoin for one more hurrah! Now wouldn't that be nice?


I'd squirt in my shorts if that happened!


Yes, we remember. :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://forums.melodicrock.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=30535&start=0

A classic thread in MR history! :lol: :lol:
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 4:35 am

I'll bet if you say Soto, Gator gets wood.
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Re: Did Journey sack Arnel Pineda?

Postby CatEyes » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:36 am

Chubby321 wrote:This rumor is getting traction in the PI media.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/244253/di ... nel-pineda

Did Journey sack Arnel Pineda?
By ALEX VALENTIN BROSAS
February 19, 2010, 3:51pm

Journey frontman Arnel Pineda was utterly surprised over rumors that he has been sacked from the popular rock group.

According to rumors, Arnel’s contract was not renewed by the group.

Journey is also said to be lacking in gigs in the US.

The singer is clueless abut the recent controversy that befell him.


Oh crap - not again!!

It was rumoured that Neal has been watching AI ...... guess this explains it

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Postby Red13JoePa » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:10 am

Jana wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Jana wrote:
squirt1 wrote:Who cares ? Journey is so far removed from the HUGE band they were it is time to realize Perry was the VOICE !!!! and a huge part of the songwriting . Sappy now .


After listening to "sappy" FTLOSM with its thousand co-writers, :lol: I would say Jon Cain and Neal were a HUGE part of the songwriting, too.

No, it's not "time to realize Perry was the voice," because we all already know that. And they're not the huge band they were? So what. They're still a successful band and I love a lot of the music they've made after Perry (some of my all-time favorite Journey songs), so they're still creative. Tears for Fears isn't huge like the 80s and their CD this decade didn't even make Gold, but I love it. Should I not b/c it isn't a multiplatinum album like their heyday?


arent Tears for Fears the original pair?


Actually, in the 90s, no, and I followed Roland with his new regrouping under the TFF moniker and loved both albums, even though one, Elemental, only went Gold and the other, RTKOS, was a poor seller (somewhat like a concept album). In 2004 they did reunite and still didn't sell huge on their new CD.

And I will always repeat, I love Arrival more than TBF. Arrival didn't even make Gold and didn't have Perry, but it's better to me as far as an album I still go to listening..


When Tears For Fears was w/out Smith they made their best song "Break It Down Again" and best overall album, Raul & The Kings Of Spain.
Are they plannning a follow up to Happy Ending soon? I thought that record was good in many spots.

Regarding the topic, I'd sit on my lawn and stick rotten apples up my ass if Pineda wasn't the singer on the next album, that's how confident I am.
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Re: Did Journey sack Arnel Pineda?

Postby steveo777 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:12 am

CatEyes wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:This rumor is getting traction in the PI media.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/244253/di ... nel-pineda

Did Journey sack Arnel Pineda?
By ALEX VALENTIN BROSAS
February 19, 2010, 3:51pm

Journey frontman Arnel Pineda was utterly surprised over rumors that he has been sacked from the popular rock group.

According to rumors, Arnel’s contract was not renewed by the group.

Journey is also said to be lacking in gigs in the US.

The singer is clueless abut the recent controversy that befell him.


Oh crap - not again!!

It was rumoured that Neal has been watching AI ...... guess this explains it

:wink:


We're only gettin' half the story here. Usually when a rumor of someone getting sacked surfaces, there is also a rumor of someone getting hired as a replacement. I feel cheated. :wink: :roll: :lol:
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Postby ScarabGator » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:41 am

steveo777 wrote:I'll bet if you say Soto, Gator gets wood.


guilty..... :shock:
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:54 am

Red13JoePa wrote:
Jana wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Jana wrote:
squirt1 wrote:Who cares ? Journey is so far removed from the HUGE band they were it is time to realize Perry was the VOICE !!!! and a huge part of the songwriting . Sappy now .


After listening to "sappy" FTLOSM with its thousand co-writers, :lol: I would say Jon Cain and Neal were a HUGE part of the songwriting, too.

No, it's not "time to realize Perry was the voice," because we all already know that. And they're not the huge band they were? So what. They're still a successful band and I love a lot of the music they've made after Perry (some of my all-time favorite Journey songs), so they're still creative. Tears for Fears isn't huge like the 80s and their CD this decade didn't even make Gold, but I love it. Should I not b/c it isn't a multiplatinum album like their heyday?


arent Tears for Fears the original pair?


Actually, in the 90s, no, and I followed Roland with his new regrouping under the TFF moniker and loved both albums, even though one, Elemental, only went Gold and the other, RTKOS, was a poor seller (somewhat like a concept album). In 2004 they did reunite and still didn't sell huge on their new CD.

And I will always repeat, I love Arrival more than TBF. Arrival didn't even make Gold and didn't have Perry, but it's better to me as far as an album I still go to listening..


When Tears For Fears was w/out Smith they made their best song "Break It Down Again" and best overall album, Raul & The Kings Of Spain.
Are they plannning a follow up to Happy Ending soon? I thought that record was good in many spots.

Regarding the topic, I'd sit on my lawn and stick rotten apples up my ass if Pineda wasn't the singer on the next album, that's how confident I am.
He is in.


I thought the songs Elemental and BIDA were fantastic, and, I agree with you on RATKOS. I still listen to it. They've said they have no plans to release another album, but were talking about a live one being released soon. But I have seen no signs of it. A remastered version has been released last year of RATKS with four bonus tracks and a couple acoustic live songs. They don't really tour. The've done a handful of shows every other year on the west coast. but I think they enjoyed it this summer when they got together and so are going to do some shows this year and come to the east coast. And Roland even sings BITDA and RATKOS in concert and Curt, I guess, doesn't have a problem with it.

I think it was b/c ELAHE didn't sell that well that they're not putting out a new album, so not worth it to them trying to get a deal, plus they live in different countries. They always said coming back together and doing ELAHE was b/c they had had such an ugly split and wanted to leave it in a better place and said that might be the end then. I wish they would do another album and bring back the sound with the saxophone in it.
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Postby RockitRide » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:24 am

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Ehwmatt wrote:Sounds totally baseless to me... when is his contract up anyway? I thought it wasn't for at least another year if not 2. Given the way this catalogue has shredded voice after voice over the years, I wouldn't expect them to enter some 10 year agreement with him after a couple of successful tours and one album.


The guy's voice is clearly showing no signs of wear. Listen to the stuff from the Dubai thing. It's great. He's handling it fine.


What "Dubai thing" is that?
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:30 am

RockitRide wrote:
brywool wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:Sounds totally baseless to me... when is his contract up anyway? I thought it wasn't for at least another year if not 2. Given the way this catalogue has shredded voice after voice over the years, I wouldn't expect them to enter some 10 year agreement with him after a couple of successful tours and one album.


The guy's voice is clearly showing no signs of wear. Listen to the stuff from the Dubai thing. It's great. He's handling it fine.


What "Dubai thing" is that?


He did a concert for his charity in Dubai last week, I think it was. About a 30 song setlist.
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Postby gr8dane » Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:57 am

Ligzig wrote:Yeah because Journey would be touring stadiums and playing the Super bowl if Steve Perry were still in the band. Yeah, and my cock is also 22 inches. If Perry were still with the band, the instruments would all be collecting dust in their garages. This is the guy, whose only claim to fame is being "immortalized in karaoke machines across America." He's not U2, Bruce Springsteen, AC/DC or Micheal Jackson, and never was. Sure he might be able to lend a little cred to the band, but at this point in time...Journey can only do so much. The Party's Over (hopelessly in love.)

If I were Arnel, I would leave Journey and ride out the rest of my short lived success in Asia and call it a day. It's better than trying to please fans that are impossible to please, but hang around like bitter ex-girlfriends talking shit.


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Postby Michigan Girl » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:03 pm

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Ligzig wrote:Yeah because Journey would be touring stadiums and playing the Super bowl if Steve Perry were still in the band. Yeah, and my cock is also 22 inches. If Perry were still with the band, the instruments would all be collecting dust in their garages. This is the guy, whose only claim to fame is being "immortalized in karaoke machines across America." He's not U2, Bruce Springsteen, AC/DC or Micheal Jackson, and never was. Sure he might be able to lend a little cred to the band, but at this point in time...Journey can only do so much. The Party's Over (hopelessly in love.)

If I were Arnel, I would leave Journey and ride out the rest of my short lived success in Asia and call it a day. It's better than trying to please fans that are impossible to please, but hang around like bitter ex-girlfriends talking shit.


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Postby brywool » Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:59 am

Ligzig wrote:If I were Arnel, I would leave Journey and ride out the rest of my short lived success in Asia and call it a day. It's better than trying to please fans that are impossible to please, but hang around like bitter ex-girlfriends talking shit.


well said.
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Postby Don » Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:05 am

It would be interesting to see how long his star would shine without being in Journey. Even at the last few gigs he's done he hasn't sang even more than one of his originally penned songs. He's already got some media critics in his homeland deriding him and Charice for not creating their own identity as they continue to to play the covers circuit. If he can't write, at least have some local well known Filipino talent write songs specifically for him that might appeal to that audience if only to test the waters for when his career with Journey is over.
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Postby brywool » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:01 am

Gunbot wrote:It would be interesting to see how long his star would shine without being in Journey. Even at the last few gigs he's done he hasn't sang even more than one of his originally penned songs. He's already got some media critics in his homeland deriding him and Charice for not creating their own identity as they continue to to play the covers circuit. If he can't write, at least have some local well known Filipino talent write songs specifically for him that might appeal to that audience if only to test the waters for when his career with Journey is over.


Not like the guy's had a ton of time to get writers together or write his own stuff since the Journey tour's been over. Also, if he's not faced with "I'll have no band after 6 months for the rest of my life", there's really no hurry for him to do this.
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Postby Jana » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:12 am

brywool wrote:
Gunbot wrote:It would be interesting to see how long his star would shine without being in Journey. Even at the last few gigs he's done he hasn't sang even more than one of his originally penned songs. He's already got some media critics in his homeland deriding him and Charice for not creating their own identity as they continue to to play the covers circuit. If he can't write, at least have some local well known Filipino talent write songs specifically for him that might appeal to that audience if only to test the waters for when his career with Journey is over.


Not like the guy's had a ton of time to get writers together or write his own stuff since the Journey tour's been over. Also, if he's not faced with "I'll have no band after 6 months for the rest of my life", there's really no hurry for him to do this.


I think in that interview in Dubai he discussed he has lots of ideas and interest for the future, I took regarding his solo career, but stated his focus was Journey right now.
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