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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:16 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
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treetopovskaya wrote:it's sad that there are people out there making money off 9-11.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/16/Zs5jWvu4tR8

makers of loose change have been debunked & very much... owned. these guys are scum of the earth & hopefully will rot in hell.

any engineer will explain to you how & why those towers fell. imagine if someone stood on your hand... now imagine that person jumping down on your hand. there's a difference between dead & live weight. once those floors started to fall there was nothing to stop them... no resistance.


I fully agree that no-one should be trying to make money off of what happened on 9/11. The makers of loose change have made Loose Change available for free download.

They have humiliated those to morons from Popular Mechanics, they owned those lying idiots idiots. Wake the hell up!

Thank God for the people like the Loose Change guys that are trying to make the truth known to everyone!

And there most certainly would be major resistance to the towers collapsing, to suggest otherwise is insane.


name it.


If two people drop two weights of equal weight from the exact same height and there's nothing blocking either one of the weights, their going to hit the floor at the exact same time.

Now, lets say that someone is standing there trying to catch one of the weights before it hits the floor, but they don't block the path of the other weight. Even if the weight that the person is trying to catch weighs too much to support, the resistance that the person is supplying will still slow down the path of the weight hitting the floor. It will not hit the floor as quickly as the weight that was unimpeded on it's way down.

This principle is actually way more obvious with a steel reinforced building.

Even if the floors were to collapse from the pancake theory, the floors beneath would provide way to much resistance for the whole building to collapse at free-fall-speed. And the 3 WTC Towers collapsed at free-fall-speed.

like it or not the floors of a building are not designed to hold the weight of a jetliner. nor are they designed to hold the weight of the floor above it crashing down on top of it. my husband is a civil engineer and studied structural engineering. i think i'll side with the engineer and not some lame wannabe on a music forum.
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:22 pm

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Postby Saint John » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:27 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:it's sad that there are people out there making money off 9-11.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/16/Zs5jWvu4tR8

makers of loose change have been debunked & very much... owned. these guys are scum of the earth & hopefully will rot in hell.

any engineer will explain to you how & why those towers fell. imagine if someone stood on your hand... now imagine that person jumping down on your hand. there's a difference between dead & live weight. once those floors started to fall there was nothing to stop them... no resistance.


I fully agree that no-one should be trying to make money off of what happened on 9/11. The makers of loose change have made Loose Change available for free download.

They have humiliated those to morons from Popular Mechanics, they owned those lying idiots idiots. Wake the hell up!

Thank God for the people like the Loose Change guys that are trying to make the truth known to everyone!

And there most certainly would be major resistance to the towers collapsing, to suggest otherwise is insane.


name it.


If two people drop two weights of equal weight from the exact same height and there's nothing blocking either one of the weights, their going to hit the floor at the exact same time.

Now, lets say that someone is standing there trying to catch one of the weights before it hits the floor, but they don't block the path of the other weight. Even if the weight that the person is trying to catch weighs too much to support, the resistance that the person is supplying will still slow down the path of the weight hitting the floor. It will not hit the floor as quickly as the weight that was unimpeded on it's way down.

This principle is actually way more obvious with a steel reinforced building.

Even if the floors were to collapse from the pancake theory, the floors beneath would provide way to much resistance for the whole building to collapse at free-fall-speed. And the 3 WTC Towers collapsed at free-fall-speed.



Dear fucking Lord, Bill ... it's been factually proven through pictures, videos and science that the buildings didn't fall at free fall speed! Quit browsing the fucking internet looking for windowless planes, controlled demolitions, CIA papers and step back and open your fucking eyes! Here's a simple explanation that has been echoed by virtually every science scholar in the fucking world! And take a close fucking look at that firsy picture.

http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:35 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
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Journey/Survivor wrote:It makes me want to puke the way some people will try to dismiss what certain members of this government did on 9/11 simply because it was mainly carried out by the political group that they support.

The mass freakin murder of roughly three thousand people was carried out that day, but there are people who will try to keep the truth hidden so it doesn't make their precious political party look bad.


speaking just for myself... i don't belong to any party.

if you really believe this crap how can you sleep at night? if i believed this shit i wouldn't sleep until the people were brought to justice. if people in our gov believe this why are they doing nothing about it? why?



That's the thing. Do you think I enjoy thinking that certain members (And I'm NOT saying that it was the whole government by any means) of our government would do this to our own people? Or to any people of any country for that matter?

I wish beyond belief that I could trust what the government is claiming. I used to believe every damn thing they said about it. But after actually researching everything, I've seen too much proof that their lying big time. WAY too much proof of that!


you didn't answer my question.

if you believe this how can you sleep? why are you still living here? i wouldn't be. i would have packed up & moved to canada.

why is our gov NOW not doing anything???

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Postby Saint John » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:37 pm

For those with functioning brains this one explains it all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4
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Postby Journey/Survivor » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:46 pm

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Postby Journey/Survivor » Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:51 pm

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Postby Saint John » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:06 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:a building would not fall at free-fall-speed from a pancaking of floors..


Good to know. Neither did the WTC's. That's a fact as there's video evidence that prove it.

Journey/Survivor wrote:I'm not an engineer. ..


I did not need to be told that! :lol:



Journey/Survivor wrote:No steel framed tower had ever completely collapsed due to fire before 9/11 or since then...


That's because no others have been plowed into by airplanes carrying approximately 10,000 fucking gallons of fuel!!! What a moronic statement.


Journey/Survivor wrote:Yet all 3 of the towers completely collapsed on 9/11. The same 3 buildings that Larry Silverstein had just taken out insurance on that would pay billions of dollars of insurance in the event of terrorist attacks.


So president Bush executed 4 planes of people, killed another 3,000+, and talked a few thousand other people into this conspiracy so Larry Silverstein could make a few dollars??? Sounds plausible ... if you're fucking nuts!!! :lol:


Journey/Survivor wrote:WTC-7, which wasn't even hit by a plane and only had a few minor fires,


Not true. Upon arriving at the scene of the fire it was deemed by the NYFD that the fire wasn't even worth trying to fight and it was predicted that the building would come down because of the gaping hole it had in it! But I'm sure they were all in on it, too. I mean, they only had to watch a few hundred of their co-workers die. :roll: And do you realize that the building was a football field away from the WTC buildings and was blasted by tons of falling steel, not to mention the massive force of 2 huge collapsing buildings. Here, Bill:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afb7eUHr64U
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Postby Saint John » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:09 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:It is proven fact that they absolutely did fall at free-fall-speed. FACT!!!


No, no one thinks that ... save a few lunatics that refuse to believe what science and video have already proven. Watch the God Damn video. It's right there for you to see. What you saw fall at free fall speed was not the core of the building. It was the outer columns that fell unimpeded, but the core of the building took much longer. But you won't see that because you simply refuse to believe it.
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Postby RedWingFan » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:14 pm

Saint John wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:It is proven fact that they absolutely did fall at free-fall-speed. FACT!!!


No, no one thinks that ....

Actually Journey/Survivor and Rosie O'Donnell think that!!!
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:15 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:it's sad that there are people out there making money off 9-11.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RKOwens4#p/u/16/Zs5jWvu4tR8

makers of loose change have been debunked & very much... owned. these guys are scum of the earth & hopefully will rot in hell.

any engineer will explain to you how & why those towers fell. imagine if someone stood on your hand... now imagine that person jumping down on your hand. there's a difference between dead & live weight. once those floors started to fall there was nothing to stop them... no resistance.


I fully agree that no-one should be trying to make money off of what happened on 9/11. The makers of loose change have made Loose Change available for free download.

They have humiliated those to morons from Popular Mechanics, they owned those lying idiots idiots. Wake the hell up!

Thank God for the people like the Loose Change guys that are trying to make the truth known to everyone!

And there most certainly would be major resistance to the towers collapsing, to suggest otherwise is insane.


name it.


If two people drop two weights of equal weight from the exact same height and there's nothing blocking either one of the weights, their going to hit the floor at the exact same time.

Now, lets say that someone is standing there trying to catch one of the weights before it hits the floor, but they don't block the path of the other weight. Even if the weight that the person is trying to catch weighs too much to support, the resistance that the person is supplying will still slow down the path of the weight hitting the floor. It will not hit the floor as quickly as the weight that was unimpeded on it's way down.

This principle is actually way more obvious with a steel reinforced building.

Even if the floors were to collapse from the pancake theory, the floors beneath would provide way to much resistance for the whole building to collapse at free-fall-speed. And the 3 WTC Towers collapsed at free-fall-speed.

like it or not the floors of a building are not designed to hold the weight of a jetliner. nor are they designed to hold the weight of the floor above it crashing down on top of it. my husband is a civil engineer and studied structural engineering. i think i'll side with the engineer and not some lame wannabe on a music forum.


Have you heard of this organization called "Architects And Engineers For Truth" that has over a thousand members that are themselves architects and engineers that have provided overwhelming proof that a building would not fall at free-fall-speed from a pancaking of floors.

I'm not an engineer. But I have several relatives that are architects and builders. And I have worked in roofing a construction.

www.ae911truth.org


By the way... There have been several occasions while working a roofing job that guys I work with have fallen through weakened and rotted wood. They are up on the roof and eventually their weight is too much for the rotted wood to handle. The boards slowly start to crack, and eventually it snaps and they start to fall in. They then hit the ceiling of the inside of the house. The ceiling gives resistance, but after a few seconds it starts to crack and then it eventually gives way, and the guy falls down to the floor. Thank God none of the guys have ever been seriously injured, and fortunately for me, I've never fallen through.

Again, the point is that each floor or ceiling below offers some resistance before it gives way.

No steel framed tower had ever completely collapsed due to fire before 9/11 or since then. Yet all 3 of the towers completely collapsed on 9/11. The same 3 buildings that Larry Silverstein had just taken out insurance on that would pay billions of dollars of insurance in the event of terrorist attacks.

WTC-7, which wasn't even hit by a plane and only had a few minor fires, and which was built as an absolute fortress because the CIA, IRS and other government agencies used it as headquarters, collapsed at free-fall-speed on 9/11.

Not to mention the countless witnesses that reported bombs having gone off in the buildings way before they collapsed.

Not to mention the thermite and thermate that has been found in abundance in the rubble and dust from the tower collapses.


does your friend weigh as much as a plane & multiple floors?

hmm... imagine that... things exploding when a building is on fire. amazing!

must suck to be you... so naive & gullible.

again... how do you sleep? with one eye open? why do you still live in this country believing what you believe?
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Postby RossValoryRocks » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:17 pm

Journey/Survivor wrote:
Dan, what the frick???

It is proven fact that they absolutely did fall at free-fall-speed. FACT!!!


You have just proven to be as inept and lost as 7Wishes is in the Global Warming thread.

It's doesn't matter what ANYONE else posts as PROOF you are not going to believe them.

Thermite and Thermate??? ROFLMAO! You are buying the bullshit? REALLY? I mean I distrust our government a ton, but this theory has been debunked over and over.

It would take THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of people to cover this up...it could NEVER, EVER be done.

Get a grip, quit hitting the bottle (and/or the bong), step back from some deluded fantasy and come back to reality.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:23 pm

so... let's say all this bs is true.

wouldn't our current admin do something about it? unless... OMG... they're in on it too!

who put that underwear bomber on the plane to detroit christmas day???

omg... maybe you truthers are really on to something.

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Postby treetopovskaya » Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:31 pm

enough people in high positions in our gov would love to nail bush to the wall. don't you think if this bs were true they would be doing that now?
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