Did the discovery of cooking make us human?

[Arianddu]

Ok, B has started channeling Cut'n'paste...er, Factfinder, and this appears to be rapidly developing into a pissing contest. As I lack the requisit genitals for this particular fight, I'm abandonning the topic. [1]

B - I love you, I just don't agree with you, on this topic at least. Congratulations - you just joined Ginger in my catagory of people I still think are fabulous despite not agreeing with them on rather a lot of things.

Parfait - chill, babe. I fully understand your frustration. You are't going to make any converts on a music website, and arguing with half facts, or dodgy or poorly worded scientific understanding doesn't help the case. Drink some good French wine, relax, and have a good belly laugh at these poor fools condemned to live in a country that produces plastic and calls it cheese. I mean, this is the nation that sells brie in a can.

Matt - you are dead on, my friend; it's a fascinating topic with all kinds of thought provoking ideas and debate. Sadly, I need some sleep!


[1]Ok, ok, I'm really leaving the field because I have to get some sleep tonight and I can't afford the time to point out the flaws in all the things B posted.

[Behshad]

Who fucked up the formatting of the thread? Side scrolling = No thanks. I can't even read this delightful discussion. Please edit whoever it is

I think it was BB's copy/paste job

WalkInMyShoes is correct PeePeeBarfaits c&p started it actually,,,

[Behshad]

Ok, B has started channeling Cut'n'paste...er, Factfinder, and this appears to be rapidly developing into a pissing contest. As I lack the requisit genitals for this particular fight, I'm abandonning the topic. [1]

B - I love you, I just don't agree with you, on this topic at least. Congratulations - you just joined Ginger in my catagory of people I still think are fabulous despite not agreeing with them on rather a lot of things.

Parfait - chill, babe. I fully understand your frustration. You are't going to make any converts on a music website, and arguing with half facts, or dodgy or poorly worded scientific understanding doesn't help the case. Drink some good French wine, relax, and have a good belly laugh at these poor fools condemned to live in a country that produces plastic and calls it cheese. I mean, this is the nation that sells brie in a can.

Matt - you are dead on, my friend; it's a fascinating topic with all kinds of thought provoking ideas and debate. Sadly, I need some sleep!


[1]Ok, ok, I'm really leaving the field because I have to get some sleep tonight and I can't afford the time to point out the flaws in all the things B posted.

Thats how they flee the field when their so called FACTS are QUESTIONED!



NEXT !

[StevePerryHair]

Ok, B has started channeling Cut'n'paste...er, Factfinder, and this appears to be rapidly developing into a pissing contest. As I lack the requisit genitals for this particular fight, I'm abandonning the topic. [1]

B - I love you, I just don't agree with you, on this topic at least. Congratulations - you just joined Ginger in my catagory of people I still think are fabulous despite not agreeing with them on rather a lot of things.

Parfait - chill, babe. I fully understand your frustration. You are't going to make any converts on a music website, and arguing with half facts, or dodgy or poorly worded scientific understanding doesn't help the case. Drink some good French wine, relax, and have a good belly laugh at these poor fools condemned to live in a country that produces plastic and calls it cheese. I mean, this is the nation that sells brie in a can.

Matt - you are dead on, my friend; it's a fascinating topic with all kinds of thought provoking ideas and debate. Sadly, I need some sleep!


[1]Ok, ok, I'm really leaving the field because I have to get some sleep tonight and I can't afford the time to point out the flaws in all the things B posted.

Hey!! Ive never once SEEN Brie in a can Brie is one of my favorite cheeses and it's always been made in france and sold in a little wooden box in the refrigerated section

[Arianddu]

Thats how they flee the field when their so called FACTS are QUESTIONED!



NEXT !

Not facts, B, concepts and understanding based on learning and reasoned thought. Sadly, something you will never be able to do; after all, you're a bloke, you don't have enough blood to make your brain and your cock work at the same time; I'm astonished you retain enough brain power to still be able to read.

[Arianddu]

Hey!! Ive never once SEEN Brie in a can Brie is one of my favorite cheeses and it's always been made in france and sold in a little wooden box in the refrigerated section

When I went to visit my sister in Tallahassee, Florida, she took me to the supermarket at 11pm so we wouldn't upset too many people by pointing and laughing. The brie in a can (with a label stating 'for those who don't like the rind'), the croissants in the freezer section 'stuffed with meatballs and gravy', the entire isle lined on both sides with corn syrup and the packet of cookies that proudly proclaimed they had 'a genuine dollop of real artificial raspberry' particularly stuck in my mind.

I've always wondered what a fake dollop of real artificial raspberry would look like.

[StevePerryHair]

Hey!! Ive never once SEEN Brie in a can Brie is one of my favorite cheeses and it's always been made in france and sold in a little wooden box in the refrigerated section

When I went to visit my sister in Tallahassee, Florida, she took me to the supermarket at 11pm so we wouldn't upset too many people by pointing and laughing. The brie in a can (with a label stating 'for those who don't like the rind'), the croissants in the freezer section 'stuffed with meatballs and gravy', the entire isle lined on both sides with corn syrup and the packet of cookies that proudly proclaimed they had 'a genuine dollop of real artificial raspberry' particularly stuck in my mind.

I've always wondered what a fake dollop of real artificial raspberry would look like.

I've never heard of any of those things! Brie isn't brie without the rind. And they use too much corn syrup in this country, don't get me started People want something to blame obesity on I think we have our reason right there I don't buy processed cookies very often either. I like fresh baked from scratch. I even make my pancakes from scratch. . So maybe that's how I miss all those weird items in our stores?

[Behshad]

Thats how they flee the field when their so called FACTS are QUESTIONED!



NEXT !

Not facts, B, concepts and understanding based on learning and reasoned thought. Sadly, something you will never be able to do; after all, you're a bloke, you don't have enough blood to make your brain and your cock work at the same time; I'm astonished you retain enough brain power to still be able to read.

I never said my THEORIES was correct or FACT,,, I simply stated that I dont believe in the BS you and PeePee preaching here. There's the difference. I AM keeping an open mind and I am questioning BOTH SIDES,,, but you two, specially HIM, think that "scientists proved, so its gotta be true",,,,
Your learning and reasoning is ONE-SIDED,,, its NO OTHER WAY,,, that is NOT open-minded!
As far the blood and brain remarks,, Id say youre still lower on blood flow to your brain since you lose a gallon or two monthly

Good nite!

[Michigan Girl]

Hey!! Ive never once SEEN Brie in a can Brie is one of my favorite cheeses and it's always been made in france and sold in a little wooden box in the refrigerated section

When I went to visit my sister in Tallahassee, Florida, she took me to the supermarket at 11pm so we wouldn't upset too many people by pointing and laughing. The brie in a can (with a label stating 'for those who don't like the rind'), the croissants in the freezer section 'stuffed with meatballs and gravy', the entire isle lined on both sides with corn syrup and the packet of cookies that proudly proclaimed they had 'a genuine dollop of real artificial raspberry' particularly stuck in my mind.

I've always wondered what a fake dollop of real artificial raspberry would look like.

lol...the days of handpicking our own raspberry dollops went out w/our great grandparents, those were
the days though!!

[Ehwmatt]

Hey!! Ive never once SEEN Brie in a can Brie is one of my favorite cheeses and it's always been made in france and sold in a little wooden box in the refrigerated section

When I went to visit my sister in Tallahassee, Florida, she took me to the supermarket at 11pm so we wouldn't upset too many people by pointing and laughing. The brie in a can (with a label stating 'for those who don't like the rind'), the croissants in the freezer section 'stuffed with meatballs and gravy', the entire isle lined on both sides with corn syrup and the packet of cookies that proudly proclaimed they had 'a genuine dollop of real artificial raspberry' particularly stuck in my mind.

I've always wondered what a fake dollop of real artificial raspberry would look like.

And they use too much corn syrup in this country, don't get me started People want something to blame obesity on I think we have our reason right there

Nope, I blame lazy, self-loathing people, not any food additive

[Arianddu]

Not facts, B, concepts and understanding based on learning and reasoned thought. Sadly, something you will never be able to do; after all, you're a bloke, you don't have enough blood to make your brain and your cock work at the same time; I'm astonished you retain enough brain power to still be able to read.

I never said my THEORIES was correct or FACT,,, I simply stated that I dont believe in the BS you and PeePee preaching here. There's the difference. I AM keeping an open mind and I am questioning BOTH SIDES,,, but you two, specially HIM, think that "scientists proved, so its gotta be true",,,,
Your learning and reasoning is ONE-SIDED,,, its NO OTHER WAY,,, that is NOT open-minded!
As far the blood and brain remarks,, Id say youre still lower on blood flow to your brain since you lose a gallon or two monthly

Good nite!

Sheesh, you obliquely imply a guy has a massive dick and he STILL gets all het up and feather-ruffled!

[Behshad]

Hey!! Ive never once SEEN Brie in a can Brie is one of my favorite cheeses and it's always been made in france and sold in a little wooden box in the refrigerated section

When I went to visit my sister in Tallahassee, Florida, she took me to the supermarket at 11pm so we wouldn't upset too many people by pointing and laughing. The brie in a can (with a label stating 'for those who don't like the rind'), the croissants in the freezer section 'stuffed with meatballs and gravy', the entire isle lined on both sides with corn syrup and the packet of cookies that proudly proclaimed they had 'a genuine dollop of real artificial raspberry' particularly stuck in my mind.

I've always wondered what a fake dollop of real artificial raspberry would look like.

lol...the days of handpicking our own raspberry dollops went out w/our great grandparents, those were
the days though!!

Hey now,,, according to her, our grandparents didnt pick raspberries,,, they picked bananas

[Behshad]

Not facts, B, concepts and understanding based on learning and reasoned thought. Sadly, something you will never be able to do; after all, you're a bloke, you don't have enough blood to make your brain and your cock work at the same time; I'm astonished you retain enough brain power to still be able to read.

I never said my THEORIES was correct or FACT,,, I simply stated that I dont believe in the BS you and PeePee preaching here. There's the difference. I AM keeping an open mind and I am questioning BOTH SIDES,,, but you two, specially HIM, think that "scientists proved, so its gotta be true",,,,
Your learning and reasoning is ONE-SIDED,,, its NO OTHER WAY,,, that is NOT open-minded!
As far the blood and brain remarks,, Id say youre still lower on blood flow to your brain since you lose a gallon or two monthly

Good nite!

Sheesh, you obliquely imply a guy has a massive dick and he STILL gets all het up and feather-ruffled!

Lost another gallon, didntcha !?

[Arianddu]

Hey now,,, according to her, our grandparents didnt pick raspberries,,, they picked bananas

Bullshit - my grandparents grew raspberries! Mmmm - now that's something I miss; picking raspberries on the one for the bucket, one-maybe-two-three-at-the-most for the mouth.

[Behshad]

Hey now,,, according to her, our grandparents didnt pick raspberries,,, they picked bananas

Bullshit - my grandparents grew raspberries! Mmmm - now that's something I miss; picking raspberries on the one for the bucket, one-maybe-two-three-at-the-most for the mouth.

[Arianddu]

Lost another gallon, didntcha !?

B, if your wife is bleeding a gallon a month, you need to get her to a doctor pronto. A few tablespoons is about average.

[Behshad]

Lost another gallon, didntcha !?

B, if your wife is bleeding a gallon a month, you need to get her to a doctor pronto. A few tablespoons is about average.

If I were you I would consider visiting few different doctors,,, I will try to get MR peeps to help you out,, this is for your best, even tho it involves straightjacket but you will enjoy they soft cushy walls

[StevePerryHair]

Hey now,,, according to her, our grandparents didnt pick raspberries,,, they picked bananas

Bullshit - my grandparents grew raspberries! Mmmm - now that's something I miss; picking raspberries on the one for the bucket, one-maybe-two-three-at-the-most for the mouth.

We weren't all lucky enough to live on farms Though we did have rasberries in our yard as a kid. And I did eat them fresh off the bush. But never to dollop them in a cookie I HATE rasberry in any of my baked goods! No fruity filling!! Yuck!

[Behshad]

PeePeeBarfait on the phone with his mommy "but mom?,,,theyre making fun of the facts mom,, THE FACTS!!!,,,,,huh? Oh , Ok I will get some bananas from the grocery store on my way home,,,"

[Ligzig]

I used to believe in THE "god" but these days, not so much. I personally do not agree with most religious out there. I believe that if you are a good person, then that's it. I don't need to go to Church every Sunday to prove myself or reassure myself. Can't god hear me talking all the time? I can believe and worship any time that I choose. I don't need a special building for it.

I personally think Church should be about interpretation, rather than preaching.

I firmly believe in evolution, but I also believe in my own personal god. It doesn't have to be an old man in the sky judging everything we do. I believe that someone/something planted the ingredients (everything that makes up the universe) but they do not interfere with life on Earth. I think it's pretty ridiculous to think that in a universe so vast - humans are so "special". Just thinking about the mathematical odds, there must be a planet out there that supports life or even identical to Earth. If you get into quantum physics, then the possibilities are endless.

I don't know anything for sure, that's why I am an agnostic-theist. I think there if there was ever any truth in the bible, it has been long lost in all of the many translations and interpretations done by man.

IMHO.

[Michigan Girl]

I think there if there was ever any truth in the bible, it has been long lost in all of the many translations and interpretations done by man. IMHO.

I do believe in The Holy Trinity, no monkey will ever change that!!! But there is such truth in ^^^^

[stevew2]

I used to believe in THE "god" but these days, not so much. I personally do not agree with most religious out there. I believe that if you are a good person, then that's it. I don't need to go to Church every Sunday to prove myself or reassure myself. Can't god hear me talking all the time? I can believe and worship any time that I choose. I don't need a special building for it.

I personally think Church should be about interpretation, rather than preaching.

I firmly believe in evolution, but I also believe in my own personal god. It doesn't have to be an old man in the sky judging everything we do. I believe that someone/something planted the ingredients (everything that makes up the universe) but they do not interfere with life on Earth. I think it's pretty ridiculous to think that in a universe so vast - humans are so "special". Just thinking about the mathematical odds, there must be a planet out there that supports life or even identical to Earth. If you get into quantum physics, then the possibilities are endless.

I don't know anything for sure, that's why I am an agnostic-theist. I think there if there was ever any truth in the bible, it has been long lost in all of the many translations and interpretations done by man.

IMHO.

i didnt come from no fuckin ape

[G.I.Jim]

This will be interesting... Can someone give me one definitive example of macro evolution? Just to clarify, macro is changing from one KIND of animal into another. On the other hand, there is micro evolution such as different varieties of dogs, plants, etc... Anyone?

I've never come across those terms, and your explaination of them is just not how evolution works. Living organisms differentiate, they don't morph from one 'kind' of thing into another 'kind' of thing; you have groups of related species, each one a bit different from the nearest related ones, and each one more likely to be a lot more different to the not-so-closely related ones. The differentiation of species over time is not linear and not morphic, it's based on what you could call family trees. Monkeys don't turn into humans and never will, but there is evidence that modern monkeys, apes and humans all had common ancestors. Apes and humans have more recent common ancestors; you have to go back further still to find our common ancestor with monkeys. We don't have 'new' humans coming from monkeys for the same reason your sixth cousin five times removed isn't going to give birth to a new you.

If you want examples of how one animal 'becomes' another, you only have to look at any group of related species. Finches and giant tortoises in the Galapagos are great examples - they were the trigger for Darwin's initial theory of evolution; a theory we've been refining and working on ever since.

Now, can I point at a population and say 'look, here is a baby whatchamacallit, see how it's head is bigger than it's mommy's head, that's because it's on its way to becoming a new species called a big-headed-whatchamacallit' then no, I can't, any more than you can sit and watch the Himalayas growing taller; they are, just not on a time scale you can be aware of. The time-scale for evolution operates over many multiple generations; you can't point at an individual, or even a population, and say 'here is the change'. It just doesn't work that way.

Give me one example of something giving birth to something different. According to you it has to be possible. There should be observable examples in life today. I'll wait for your answer. Also... scientists also used to claim that the Earth was flat.

[Ehwmatt]

This will be interesting... Can someone give me one definitive example of macro evolution? Just to clarify, macro is changing from one KIND of animal into another. On the other hand, there is micro evolution such as different varieties of dogs, plants, etc... Anyone?

I've never come across those terms, and your explaination of them is just not how evolution works. Living organisms differentiate, they don't morph from one 'kind' of thing into another 'kind' of thing; you have groups of related species, each one a bit different from the nearest related ones, and each one more likely to be a lot more different to the not-so-closely related ones. The differentiation of species over time is not linear and not morphic, it's based on what you could call family trees. Monkeys don't turn into humans and never will, but there is evidence that modern monkeys, apes and humans all had common ancestors. Apes and humans have more recent common ancestors; you have to go back further still to find our common ancestor with monkeys. We don't have 'new' humans coming from monkeys for the same reason your sixth cousin five times removed isn't going to give birth to a new you.

If you want examples of how one animal 'becomes' another, you only have to look at any group of related species. Finches and giant tortoises in the Galapagos are great examples - they were the trigger for Darwin's initial theory of evolution; a theory we've been refining and working on ever since.

Now, can I point at a population and say 'look, here is a baby whatchamacallit, see how it's head is bigger than it's mommy's head, that's because it's on its way to becoming a new species called a big-headed-whatchamacallit' then no, I can't, any more than you can sit and watch the Himalayas growing taller; they are, just not on a time scale you can be aware of. The time-scale for evolution operates over many multiple generations; you can't point at an individual, or even a population, and say 'here is the change'. It just doesn't work that way.

Give me one example of something giving birth to something different. According to you it has to be possible. There should be observable examples in life today. I'll wait for your answer. Also... scientists also used to claim that the Earth was flat.

Cher allegedly gave birth to this thing, not sure what you call it:



There you have it. Irrefutable scientific proof that humans can birth different species. Just call me Charles D

[stevew2]

This will be interesting... Can someone give me one definitive example of macro evolution? Just to clarify, macro is changing from one KIND of animal into another. On the other hand, there is micro evolution such as different varieties of dogs, plants, etc... Anyone?

I've never come across those terms, and your explaination of them is just not how evolution works. Living organisms differentiate, they don't morph from one 'kind' of thing into another 'kind' of thing; you have groups of related species, each one a bit different from the nearest related ones, and each one more likely to be a lot more different to the not-so-closely related ones. The differentiation of species over time is not linear and not morphic, it's based on what you could call family trees. Monkeys don't turn into humans and never will, but there is evidence that modern monkeys, apes and humans all had common ancestors. Apes and humans have more recent common ancestors; you have to go back further still to find our common ancestor with monkeys. We don't have 'new' humans coming from monkeys for the same reason your sixth cousin five times removed isn't going to give birth to a new you.

If you want examples of how one animal 'becomes' another, you only have to look at any group of related species. Finches and giant tortoises in the Galapagos are great examples - they were the trigger for Darwin's initial theory of evolution; a theory we've been refining and working on ever since.

Now, can I point at a population and say 'look, here is a baby whatchamacallit, see how it's head is bigger than it's mommy's head, that's because it's on its way to becoming a new species called a big-headed-whatchamacallit' then no, I can't, any more than you can sit and watch the Himalayas growing taller; they are, just not on a time scale you can be aware of. The time-scale for evolution operates over many multiple generations; you can't point at an individual, or even a population, and say 'here is the change'. It just doesn't work that way.

Give me one example of something giving birth to something different. According to you it has to be possible. There should be observable examples in life today. I'll wait for your answer. Also... scientists also used to claim that the Earth was flat.

Cher allegedly gave birth to this thing, not sure what you call it:



There you have it. Irrefutable scientific proof that humans can birth different species. Just call me Charles D

lol I bet that meat dish is full of brie

[parfait]

This will be interesting... Can someone give me one definitive example of macro evolution? Just to clarify, macro is changing from one KIND of animal into another. On the other hand, there is micro evolution such as different varieties of dogs, plants, etc... Anyone?

I've never come across those terms, and your explaination of them is just not how evolution works. Living organisms differentiate, they don't morph from one 'kind' of thing into another 'kind' of thing; you have groups of related species, each one a bit different from the nearest related ones, and each one more likely to be a lot more different to the not-so-closely related ones. The differentiation of species over time is not linear and not morphic, it's based on what you could call family trees. Monkeys don't turn into humans and never will, but there is evidence that modern monkeys, apes and humans all had common ancestors. Apes and humans have more recent common ancestors; you have to go back further still to find our common ancestor with monkeys. We don't have 'new' humans coming from monkeys for the same reason your sixth cousin five times removed isn't going to give birth to a new you.

If you want examples of how one animal 'becomes' another, you only have to look at any group of related species. Finches and giant tortoises in the Galapagos are great examples - they were the trigger for Darwin's initial theory of evolution; a theory we've been refining and working on ever since.

Now, can I point at a population and say 'look, here is a baby whatchamacallit, see how it's head is bigger than it's mommy's head, that's because it's on its way to becoming a new species called a big-headed-whatchamacallit' then no, I can't, any more than you can sit and watch the Himalayas growing taller; they are, just not on a time scale you can be aware of. The time-scale for evolution operates over many multiple generations; you can't point at an individual, or even a population, and say 'here is the change'. It just doesn't work that way.

Give me one example of something giving birth to something different According to you it has to be possible. There should be observable examples in life today. I'll wait for your answer. Also... scientists also used to claim that the Earth was flat.

Dude, it happens all the fucking time. Heard about mutations?

Go read a book!

And my mommy thinks you're a dipshit, Beshad.

[Don]

I used to believe in THE "god" but these days, not so much. I personally do not agree with most religious out there. I believe that if you are a good person, then that's it. I don't need to go to Church every Sunday to prove myself or reassure myself. Can't god hear me talking all the time? I can believe and worship any time that I choose. I don't need a special building for it.

I personally think Church should be about interpretation, rather than preaching.

I firmly believe in evolution, but I also believe in my own personal god. It doesn't have to be an old man in the sky judging everything we do. I believe that someone/something planted the ingredients (everything that makes up the universe) but they do not interfere with life on Earth. I think it's pretty ridiculous to think that in a universe so vast - humans are so "special". Just thinking about the mathematical odds, there must be a planet out there that supports life or even identical to Earth. If you get into quantum physics, then the possibilities are endless.

I don't know anything for sure, that's why I am an agnostic-theist. I think there if there was ever any truth in the bible, it has been long lost in all of the many translations and interpretations done by man.

IMHO.

We are peas in a pod. I agree with pretty much everything you just said.

I mean, even cavemen knew that if you stole someone's stuff or messed with his woman you were getting your ass kicked. If you helped someone catch a deer you shared in the reward. All of this stuff is hardwired into us. Ther was no Son Of God laying down the law for them back then.
To me, church is comfort food for people, affirmation for those who looking for the ultimate warm & fuzzy, or who are in need of guidance because of possible defects with their own moral compass or self esteem.

[Don]

Scientist used to claim the earth was flat but clergymen were burning women at the stake for being witches. Which offense is worse?

[Michigan Girl]

Scientist used to claim the earth was flat but clergymen were burning women at the stake for being witches. Which offense is worse?

I don't know ...if the world had been flat then the clergymen could've just pushed the witches off the edge!!

[G.I.Jim]

This will be interesting... Can someone give me one definitive example of macro evolution? Just to clarify, macro is changing from one KIND of animal into another. On the other hand, there is micro evolution such as different varieties of dogs, plants, etc... Anyone?

I've never come across those terms, and your explaination of them is just not how evolution works. Living organisms differentiate, they don't morph from one 'kind' of thing into another 'kind' of thing; you have groups of related species, each one a bit different from the nearest related ones, and each one more likely to be a lot more different to the not-so-closely related ones. The differentiation of species over time is not linear and not morphic, it's based on what you could call family trees. Monkeys don't turn into humans and never will, but there is evidence that modern monkeys, apes and humans all had common ancestors. Apes and humans have more recent common ancestors; you have to go back further still to find our common ancestor with monkeys. We don't have 'new' humans coming from monkeys for the same reason your sixth cousin five times removed isn't going to give birth to a new you.

If you want examples of how one animal 'becomes' another, you only have to look at any group of related species. Finches and giant tortoises in the Galapagos are great examples - they were the trigger for Darwin's initial theory of evolution; a theory we've been refining and working on ever since.

Now, can I point at a population and say 'look, here is a baby whatchamacallit, see how it's head is bigger than it's mommy's head, that's because it's on its way to becoming a new species called a big-headed-whatchamacallit' then no, I can't, any more than you can sit and watch the Himalayas growing taller; they are, just not on a time scale you can be aware of. The time-scale for evolution operates over many multiple generations; you can't point at an individual, or even a population, and say 'here is the change'. It just doesn't work that way.

Give me one example of something giving birth to something different According to you it has to be possible. There should be observable examples in life today. I'll wait for your answer. Also... scientists also used to claim that the Earth was flat.

Dude, it happens all the fucking time. Heard about mutations?

Go read a book!

And my mommy thinks you're a dipshit, Beshad.

Yep, I have heard about mutations. Now can you give me an example of one of them that survived as long as it's parents and has branched off into something new that could produce it's own offspring that were just as healthy?