Kids Kicked Out Of Catholic School Because Parents Are Gay

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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:12 am

parfait wrote:I'm a atheist.


you're an atheist, don't you people know how to talk and use proper grammar?!? :? :wink:
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Postby Don » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:12 am

Man, these guys stay busy.

German Catholics to investigate abuse charges

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100310/ap_ ... urch_abuse
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Postby parfait » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:14 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
parfait wrote:I'm a atheist.


you're an atheist, don't you people know how to talk and use proper grammar?!? :? :wink:


English is my third language, you cougar.

You know I'd have you swooning even with my bad grammar.
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Postby Don » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:18 am

I'm an agnostic. With all my grammar errors, there is no way I could be an atheist.
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:20 am

parfait wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
parfait wrote:I'm a atheist.


you're an atheist, don't you people know how to talk and use proper grammar?!? :? :wink:


English is my third language, you cougar.

You know I'd have you swooning even with my bad grammar.



That's so cool that you and B have so much in common now :lol:
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:32 am

Gunbot wrote:Man, these guys stay busy.

German Catholics to investigate abuse charges

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100310/ap_ ... urch_abuse


Jesus Christ...One after another. Not to worry though, nothing that the almighty dollar can't handle. I just cannot believe that the public accepts the Church like this...accepts the fact that they somehow are above the law and are off limits.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:34 am

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If church ISN'T "your thing" you're not really a Catholic anyway.
Nor would expect you to "get anything out of" mass.

If you think dude was implicated in the abuse, look him up if he was, he will be listed.
I read the Philly Dioceses grand jury report on the abuse and it was HARROWING.
It's online. But I separate those false Priests from the actual true agents of the Catholic Church.


Ok Joan, I'm not really a Catholic. Man, I don't know how I'm going to go on living now :lol: :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:39 am

Absolutely stomach turning! And THIS is why I'm not catholic - and no I won't capitalize it. Biggest bunch of hypocrites!! I spent 12 years of catholic school having it drilled into my head how "God loves everyone - unconditionally" and "we are ALL God's children"...

Yeah? God loves us unconditionally and we are all his children EXCEPT if we are gay or if we have premarital sex or if we use birth control or if we do this, that, the other and the next... and on down the line of the list of 12 million things they want to send you to hell for. Then you are a SINNER and you must be shunned until you BEG for forgiveness.

Now they're punishing the CHILDREN of those they believe to be "sinners"? Children who did nothing wrong and have no control over the situation?

Punishing and embarrassing children for the lifestyle of their parents? What a loving, christian act. :evil:
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Postby Don » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:40 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
Red13JoePa wrote:

If church ISN'T "your thing" you're not really a Catholic anyway.
Nor would expect you to "get anything out of" mass.

If you think dude was implicated in the abuse, look him up if he was, he will be listed.
I read the Philly Dioceses grand jury report on the abuse and it was HARROWING.
It's online. But I separate those false Priests from the actual true agents of the Catholic Church.


Ok Joan, I'm not really a Catholic. Man, I don't know how I'm going to go on living now :lol: :lol:


The first thing you can do is deactivate the intruder alarm most alter boys keep attached to their anus. Hopefully, being excommunicated will mean no more midnight mass after parties with Father Carney and company.
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Re: Kids Kicked Out Of Catholic School Because Parents Are G

Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:45 am

"Quite the opposite. But what the Church does teach is that sexual intimacy by anyone outside marriage is wrong; that marriage is a sacramental covenant; and that marriage can only occur between a man and a woman. These beliefs are central to a Catholic understanding of human nature, family and happiness, and the organization of society. The Church cannot change these teachings because, in the faith of Catholics, they are the teachings of Jesus Christ."


Oh yeah? What about Mary Single-Mom and her live in boyfriend... and Joe Single-Dad and his girlfriend.... are they going to throw their kids out of school too, just because they have a parent who is engaging in a relationship (and SEX!) out side of being married? That's never happened.


"The issue is not about our not accepting 'sinners,' " he said. "It is not about punishing the child for the sins of his or her parents.


Bull!! If it isn't, then re-enroll those children at that school.
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Postby ChildInTime » Thu Mar 11, 2010 5:27 am

I'm also pretty much an Atheist myself, but come from a Catholic family. I'm sick and tired of all the bull that happens in that religion, honestly. And I'm also tired of my family pushing it on me. I dunno, I just wouldn't like to be part of a religion that thinks I'm a huge sinner just because I happen to be bisexual. And I disagree with most of the church's views on political topics/subjects anyway, soo....

*ahem*

Yeah, this is bullshit. Being gay isn't a crime (And it's also not a lifestyle choice or a disease), and I'm tired of the church treating it like it is. :evil:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:41 am

StevePerryHair wrote:
parfait wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
parfait wrote:I'm a atheist.


you're an atheist, don't you people know how to talk and use proper grammar?!? :? :wink:


English is my third language, you cougar.

You know I'd have you swooning even with my bad grammar.



That's so cool that you and B have so much in common now :lol:

Bad grammar and swooning cougars?!?!? :shock:
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Postby StevePerryHair » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:43 am

Michigan Girl wrote:
StevePerryHair wrote:
parfait wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:
parfait wrote:I'm a atheist.


you're an atheist, don't you people know how to talk and use proper grammar?!? :? :wink:


English is my third language, you cougar.

You know I'd have you swooning even with my bad grammar.



That's so cool that you and B have so much in common now :lol:

Bad grammar and swooning cougars?!?!? :shock:


:lol: :lol: (only the part I highlighted :lol: )They can insult each other in 2 languages now :wink: :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:06 am

This is an outstanding decision. I don't think I'd want my kid exposed to another child whose parents are living that sort of filthy lifestyle.
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Postby JasonD » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:03 am

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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:15 am

Saint John wrote:This is an outstanding decision. I don't think I'd want my kid exposed to another child whose parents are living that sort of filthy lifestyle.


LOL, I just knew Reverend Dan would be along to salute this abhorrent decision. :wink: I just can't believe you don't like girl on girl...that blows me away. I can't get enough of that shit online all damned day long. I am mellowing out though since Wyatt trolls the living room now. I had to get away from spermswappers.com and downgrade to more mellow shit like maximporn.com and Inthecrack.com. :)

Dude, when is your birthday? I want to get you a priest collar and a fuckin' black robe. Somebody photoshop that for me, eh? Behshad?
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Postby Lula » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:21 am

Saint John wrote:This is an outstanding decision. I don't think I'd want my kid exposed to another child whose parents are living that sort of filthy lifestyle.


really? i mean do you really believe this? seriously.
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Postby Rockindeano » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:35 am

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Postby Voyager » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:41 am

parfait wrote:I'm a atheist.


That's okay, your kids can attend the school - as long as you're not gay.

:lol: :roll:
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Postby Voyager » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:42 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:I spent 12 years of catholic school having it drilled into my head how "God loves everyone - unconditionally" and "we are ALL God's children"...


I knew we had something in common.

Hail Mary, please pray for us fucking sinners!

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Postby RossValoryRocks » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:46 am

If you people think this ONLY goes on in the Catholic Church you are SADLY mistaken...however being the largest and richest church in the world makes it more likely for someone to sue the Catholic Church to recover damages.

The are probably as many if not more cases of sexual abuse in the protestant and orthodox churches than the Catholic Church, but the little independent bible church on the corner doesn't have millions so the victims don't bother to sue.

DISCLAIMER: I am not a Catholic.
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Postby ChildInTime » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:47 am

Saint John wrote:This is an outstanding decision. I don't think I'd want my kid exposed to another child whose parents are living that sort of filthy lifestyle.


Well, that's probably the most bigoted thing I've read all day! Congratulations on that! :roll:

Seriously, though, man. Gay people aren't filthy, alright? And being gay isn't a LIFESTYLE, for the last time. Studies show more and more evidence that people are born gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered. It's not a choice.... and if it was, why would people choose to be something that is the subject of so much bigotry?! :? Doesn't make much sense to me...
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Postby Peartree12249 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:55 am

So let me get this straight. having gay parents is bad, but priests diddling little boys is OK.

IMO they did the kids a favor booting them out. I went to Catholic school for 8 years and hated it. It felt like brainwashing.
I haven't set foot in a Catholic church since I was 17 yrs old.
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Postby ChildInTime » Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:58 am

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Not to use a pun, but... AMEN!! 8)
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:30 pm

Gunbot wrote:Since Catholicism is involved, I might as well post this here so we can keep everything under one roof.

How paedophile priest was allowed to evade justice

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/n ... 556659.stm



All the children in Ayrfield, Dublin, knew fun-loving Father Bill Carney - not just the altar boys and those who met him through school, but members of the Scout troop he ran and the groups of local children he took swimming.

His door was always open, there was a ready supply of Coke in the fridge and in the 1980s he had the very latest thing to lure youngsters in - a video player.

Adults disapproved of his swearing and crazy driving, but the Catholic Church was still so trusted, no-one suspected the truth about him.

Bridie Dwyer still lives in Ayrfield. Above the fireplace, with other family photographs is a picture of her youngest child, Paul, on his first Communion day.

At the age of 13 Paul went with other boys to watch videos at Father Carney's house and to have a sleepover, Mrs Dwyer told me. But at 2am Paul unexpectedly returned home.

"Thought you were going for a sleepover?" she recalled asking him as he pushed past her. "Didn't want to stay," he replied and shut his door.

"That's when he'd been raped," Mrs Dwyer told me, "but I didn't know".

What no-one, except Carney's bishop and the local police, knew was that the priest was a paedophile.

The Murphy report into the cover up by the Catholic Church and Irish state of clerical sex abuse was published in November 2009.

It described Carney as "a serial sexual abuser of children, male and female", saying that there had been complaints and suspicions "in respect of 32 named individuals" about him, adding that "there is evidence he abused many more children".

Michael Wheeler, who as a boy was one of Carney's altar servers, said that following the report a strange but vivid memory from when he was young suddenly made sense.

He told me that when he was nine years old Carney was late for Mass one day, so, fearful that he might not turn up, he ran into the priest's house and called his name.

"I heard a groan," he said, "and I saw in the bedroom, a boy, a little older than me, naked between the sheets.

"This boy sat up, stared groggily at me, and fell back into the bed. I was terrified and ran out. As a child I couldn't understand why he was there. Now I know."

We now know that complaints about Carney were diverted away from the Irish criminal justice system to Bishop James Kavanagh, a man described by the Murphy Report as someone with "a soft spot for Carney".

Kavanagh did what he could to protect Carney from the law to avoid scandal for the Church.

One conscientious policeman, praised in the Murphy Report, did investigate complaints and they came to court. But the press were kept away as Carney pleaded guilty to two counts of indecent assault and got probation.

Six families were paid compensation and Carney was soon back working, with access to children.

In its 40 pages on Carney, the Murphy report said that his was one of the worst cases the commission investigated and that the Church's handling of his case was "nothing short of catastrophic".

"It was inept, self-serving and for the best part of 10 years displayed no obvious concern for the welfare of children," the report said.

In 1992, the Church convicted Carney internally, under Canon law, of child sexual abuse.

But this compulsive paedophile refused to leave the parish house. So the Church paid him £30,000 to go away.

He moved to Cheltenham and then to Scotland, where he has lived for the last 10 years running a family-friendly guest house in St Andrews.

Back in Dublin, it took Bridie's son Paul Dwyer 21 years to come forward, but in 2004 he told the police about his rape.

The police said they had received two other complaints like his and sent the file to the Irish director of public prosecutions (DPP), but the DPP said there was not enough evidence to prosecute.

"So the case stopped," his mother told me, "and, a couple of weeks later Paul committed suicide. He couldn't handle it any more.

"He wanted Carney in court so he could ask him why, why had Carney raped him? That never happened and the way things are going, the way the police and the clergy are handling it now I can't see it ever happening," she added.

That same year, in Scotland, Carney got married.

Newsnight has established that the Irish authorities knew his address but no-one, either from the Church or the Irish state, thought to warn his new wife about his past, or protect any children who might be at risk.

Nothing was done to prevent him leaving, as usual, for his winter holiday in the Canary Islands, a popular destination for families with children, and no-one warned the local police.

The Murphy report quotes a psychiatric assessment which says he suffers from a "psychopathic personality disorder".

"His refusal to acknowledge his paedophilia," it said, "means the prognosis for a cure is bleak".

I tracked Carney down in the Canary Islands, first at a restaurant on the sea front and then to the flat where he was staying, to ask about the abuse.

He refused to comment on the Murphy report, saying he had not read it.

He claimed that when he pleaded guilty to child sex abuse in 1983 it was not because he was guilty, but because: "I was told if I plead guilty the press would be kept away."

When I asked "Why did you rape Paul Dwyer?" his response was: "Rape. I'd like to explain that. Put it into context."

What kind of context, I asked, could excuse the rape of a child? But he did not answer.

And when I asked "Are you still abusing children?" his answer begged more questions.

"I haven't done that in 26 years and I have had no inclination," he said. But he refused to be drawn on whether that was admission that he had abused before.

Assistant Garda Commissioner John O'Mahoney has been assigned the task of investigating whether anyone should be prosecuted as a result of the revelations in the Murphy report.

These investigations, his office has said, are ongoing.

In Britain, the Home Office said that because Carney's two convictions for indecent assault pre-date the 2003 Sex Offender's Act and took place in Ireland he would not be on the Sex Offenders Register and would pass unseen through the new stricter vetting procedures for child protection.

Carney meanwhile remains free to disappear beneath the radar.
I cant really take you serious on this subject when your avatar was jesus with a beer can in his hand,although he drank wine, that i can identify with
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Postby Saint John » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:46 pm

ChildInTime wrote:Well, that's probably the most bigoted thing I've read all day! Congratulations on that! :roll:


Go fuck yourself.


ChildInTime wrote:And being gay isn't a LIFESTYLE


Really? Let's ask Webster: "the habits, attitudes, tastes, moral standards, economic level, etc., that together constitute the mode of living of an individual or group." Seems like a lifestyle to me, asshole.


ChildInTime wrote:Studies show more and more evidence ...


The only "study" I'm interested in is the one I just conducted and I have concluded that you're a fucking moron.


ChildInTime wrote:that people are born gay/lesbian/bisexual/transgendered. It's not a choice


So, when a dude sucks another dude's cock and then hums Raspberry Beret by Prince as he "goes in through the out door," it's all involuntary??? You're one dumb son of a bitch. Listen, I'll fess up, man. I've seen some 16 and 17 year old girls that have made my motor hum, but I step back because my moral compass steers me in the other direction. These fuckers should have theirs adjusted. And I don't care how you're fucking born. If you think there's something right, natural or proper about a man stuffing his prick in another man's shit pipe and bruising his kidneys ... you need fucking help.
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Postby Behshad » Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:56 pm

With all that said , can you share with us your true feelings , Saint John ?! :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:00 pm

Saint John wrote:So, when a dude sucks another dude's cock and then hum's Raspberry Beret by Prince as he "goes in through the out door,"



Thanks for totally ruining that song for me, Apeass!! :evil:
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Postby stevew2 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:06 pm

Rockindeano wrote:Image

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Postby Saint John » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:06 pm

bluejeangirl76 wrote:
Saint John wrote:So, when a dude sucks another dude's cock and then hums Raspberry Beret by Prince as he "goes in through the out door,"



Thanks for totally ruining that song for me, Apeass!! :evil:


That's a good song. Sorry. I'll buy you a drink at MR Fest II.
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